Hello Shelby - Do you remember the other missionary in Blair besides Ms. Koch? I've been trying to remember her name. I wonder if other Logan Co. communities had missionaries living in them? Thanks. Cousin Rick

I am looking for two things: 1. An obit for Millard Parkus CASSIDY that appeared in the "Logan Banner" on 9 Jul 1999 2. Tombstone photos for Mary B CASSIDY and John L CASSIDY from the Claypool Cemetery, Davin, WV Mary died 21 Jul 1938 and John died 9 Jul 1934 Thanks in advance for your assistance Lon Mason in Arizona

Stanley; While it is true about all the shattered bodys, black lung, etc. It was still part of our history,which we cant ignore. My hometown of Blair looked like a hospital recovery room, with all the bodys in wheelchairs, from mining accidents. Each time we turn on a light bulb, we are reminded of the sacrifices of our comrad miners.I am glad to see them get more safer mines, and better pay for themselves. I was lucky to work 13 years without any serious accident, or disease in the mines. When one is young, he thinks different from an older person. Back then, we thought mining was the "thing to do",without any reservations. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Shelby, It is true, I hated coal while daddy suffered and died from black lung but you know he never had the attitude I had. If he had any issues at all it was quiet ones and they were with the lack of protection for the men's health. But he really did not say much on the subject. The mines were a way of life in Logan county just as much as walking the hills was. It was just "what a man did" it seems. No questions asked. Judi Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mining Stories ots Stanley; While it is true about all the shattered bodys, black lung, etc. It was still part of our history,which we cant ignore. My hometown of Blair looked like a hospital recovery room, with all the bodys in wheelchairs, from mining accidents. Each time we turn on a light bulb, we are reminded of the sacrifices of our comrad miners.I am glad to see them get more safer mines, and better pay for themselves. I was lucky to work 13 years without any serious accident, or disease in the mines. When one is young, he thinks different from an older person. Back then, we thought mining was the "thing to do",without any reservations. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are welcome, Judi; About the same time, the first electric power generating plant was started on "Dempsey Island", at Logan. Thus the mines had electric power to help speed up the mining process.The land was owned by my gr gr grandfather (John Dempsey) Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Correction ; The mine was named Gay Mining Co. The mine at Monitor was named Monitor Coal & Coke Co. It produced coal suitable for steel making. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Shelby, Thank you! Thus the name Mt Gay. I would not have known where the name came from. You are a wealth of information. Keep on sharing. I need to write my sister and ask her what mines dad worked. I think # 7and #8 Holden sounds likely, but I am not sure. I will write to her. Judi Subject: [WVLOGAN] Mining Stories ots The first coal mine to export coal from Logan County WV, was the Gay Coal & Coke mine, at Mt. Gay The railhead was at Logan, and the coal had to be transported by wagon teams, to the gondolas at Logan.This was about 1905. The mine was owned by Harry Gay. It was in business about 50 years. But coal was mined by the farmers who dug "coal banks" (small mines) much earlier. It was a laborious task: The coal had to be drilled with manual drills, after the cut was first undermined by a sharp pick. Then black powder was inserted in the drill holes, and ignited by timed fuses. A few bushels of coal could be all that could be expected by this crude means. But, coal had twice the warming content of wood, so it was worth all the effort. Later, the railroad was extended up Island Creek, and the big coal boom was on Mines were opened at Monitor Jct,Micco, and other places. The railroad itself was run by coal steam, so they were the biggest cutomers, at the time. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The first coal mine to export coal from Logan County WV, was the Gay Coal & Coke mine, at Mt. Gay The railhead was at Logan, and the coal had to be transported by wagon teams, to the gondolas at Logan.This was about 1905. The mine was owned by Harry Gay. It was in business about 50 years. But coal was mined by the farmers who dug "coal banks" (small mines) much earlier. It was a laborious task: The coal had to be drilled with manual drills, after the cut was first undermined by a sharp pick. Then black powder was inserted in the drill holes, and ignited by timed fuses. A few bushels of coal could be all that could be expected by this crude means. But, coal had twice the warming content of wood, so it was worth all the effort. Later, the railroad was extended up Island Creek, and the big coal boom was on Mines were opened at Monitor Jct,Micco, and other places. The railroad itself was run by coal steam, so they were the biggest cutomers, at the time. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Shelby, Thanks. I love mining stories, although I never worked in the mines. However, we did have one of those "coal banks" that you refer to. I was too little to be of any help, but my father and friends would mine the coal as you described, load it into burlap bags ("coffee sacks"), which were then loaded onto a sled and transported down a haul road to our house. I went on tour in the Wyco mine in West Virginia as part of a class I was taking in high school. After only about three hours in a mine where the top was about 36 inches high, I ached all over. I opined, "there's got to be a better way." Unfortunately, in Wyoming County in those days, there wasn't. Our choice was to leave. I remember with sadness all those great friends of my youth, who were broken up or died in the mines or later of black lung, silicosis and a variety of other related causes. STAN On Dec 1, 2007, at 6:04 AM, [email protected] wrote: > The first coal mine to export coal from Logan County WV, was the > Gay Coal & > Coke mine, at Mt. Gay The railhead was at Logan, and the coal had > to be > transported by wagon teams, to the gondolas at Logan.This was about > 1905. The mine > was owned by Harry Gay. It was in business about 50 years. > But coal was mined by the farmers who dug "coal banks" (small > mines) much > earlier. > It was a laborious task: The coal had to be drilled with manual > drills, after > the cut was first undermined by a sharp pick. Then black powder was > inserted > in the drill holes, and ignited by timed fuses. A few bushels of > coal could be > all that could be expected by this crude means. But, coal had twice > the > warming content of wood, so it was worth all the effort. > Later, the railroad was extended up Island Creek, and the big coal > boom was > on Mines were opened at Monitor Jct,Micco, and other places. The > railroad > itself was run by coal steam, so they were the biggest cutomers, at > the time. > > Shelby > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? > NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

My third grade teacher used that method. But often it backfired as the trouble makers would look underneath the desk, if caught, it was even more trouble, usually the principles office. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cruel and Unusual Punishment?re cruel Cruel for sure, Mother went to elementary at Mt Gay early 1930's. I do not know what the crime was but the punishment was she had to sit underneath the teachers(a woman) desk! Mother said her legs were fat and ugly and she could see her rolls of fat. She said it was the worse thing she ever had to do in her entire life. Who would have ever heard of punishment like that???? I was a child when mother told us and I remember crying for her. Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cruel and Unusual Punishment? W earing extra underwear did not help, when John Phipps , my 6th grade principal,decided one needed a paddling.He would point out an offender, and say; 'were gonna play hotty'. We had to grab our ankles and hold on while his 'board of education' did its job . I cant remember him ever paddling a girl.Maybe he got one of the lady teachers to do the job for him. Some teacher were worse than others about getting homework on time. Some resorted to the 'board of education', while others did not.Anyway, I made sure my homework was handed in when Mr. Phipps was my teacher. Shelby PS; This same Mr Phipps gave me a shirt for winning the school spelling contest. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cruel for sure, Mother went to elementary at Mt Gay early 1930's. I do not know what the crime was but the punishment was she had to sit underneath the teachers(a woman) desk! Mother said her legs were fat and ugly and she could see her rolls of fat. She said it was the worse thing she ever had to do in her entire life. Who would have ever heard of punishment like that???? I was a child when mother told us and I remember crying for her. Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cruel and Unusual Punishment? W earing extra underwear did not help, when John Phipps , my 6th grade principal,decided one needed a paddling.He would point out an offender, and say; 'were gonna play hotty'. We had to grab our ankles and hold on while his 'board of education' did its job . I cant remember him ever paddling a girl.Maybe he got one of the lady teachers to do the job for him. Some teacher were worse than others about getting homework on time. Some resorted to the 'board of education', while others did not.Anyway, I made sure my homework was handed in when Mr. Phipps was my teacher. Shelby PS; This same Mr Phipps gave me a shirt for winning the school spelling contest. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had to kneel on rice in the corner of the room Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cruel and Unusual Punishment?re cruel > Cruel for sure, > Mother went to elementary at Mt Gay early 1930's. I do not know what the > crime was but the punishment was she had to sit underneath the teachers(a > woman) desk! > Mother said her legs were fat and ugly and she could see her rolls of fat. > She said it was the worse thing she ever had to do in her entire life. > Who would have ever heard of punishment like that???? > I was a child when mother told us and I remember crying for her. > Judi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cruel and Unusual Punishment? > > > W earing extra underwear did not help, when John Phipps , my 6th grade > principal,decided one needed a paddling.He would point out an offender, > and > say; > 'were gonna play hotty'. We had to grab our ankles and hold on while his > 'board > of education' did its job . I cant remember him ever paddling a girl.Maybe > he > got one of the lady teachers to do the job for him. Some teacher were > worse > than others about getting homework on time. Some resorted to the 'board of > education', while others did not.Anyway, I made sure my homework was > handed > in when > Mr. Phipps was my teacher. > > Shelby > > PS; This same Mr Phipps gave me a shirt for winning the school spelling > contest. > > > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

W earing extra underwear did not help, when John Phipps , my 6th grade principal,decided one needed a paddling.He would point out an offender, and say; 'were gonna play hotty'. We had to grab our ankles and hold on while his 'board of education' did its job . I cant remember him ever paddling a girl.Maybe he got one of the lady teachers to do the job for him. Some teacher were worse than others about getting homework on time. Some resorted to the 'board of education', while others did not.Anyway, I made sure my homework was handed in when Mr. Phipps was my teacher. Shelby PS; This same Mr Phipps gave me a shirt for winning the school spelling contest. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

I walked into the room where Connie was watching a TV program the other nite about paddling in school. Some CNN-designated "experts" were arguing over whether it should be universally outlawed or not. Because of my directly related experience, I think I know a thing or two about paddling in schools. But I didn't want to start an argument that I knew I could not win - I never win an argument with my wife - so I went back downstairs and began to write again about my school days in southern West Virginia. I bet some of you can relate to my experiences; some may be even know more about the subject of paddling than I. Read and enjoy, STAN School Days Students in my day were expected to be polite and abide by the rules. We were taught to raise our hands for permission to speak or to leave the room for any reason. Whispering while classes were in session was a definite no-no. The simple use of a byword, not necessarily a curse word, was grounds for punishment. I believe more whippings were because of boys slipping around and smoking than any other reason. Girls were not immune, however. One girl in my class "got a whippin" when she threw a rock across the road in front of a passing car. If a student misbehaved, he or she could expect to get a whipping. If a parent learned of the whipping the recalcitrant youngster often got another whipping at home. Jamie Brooks was our principal’s son. He, Denice Stewart and Earl Stewart were in the sixth grade and were always in trouble. There was an ample supply of willow switches on the riverbank behind our school and Mr. Brooks was not one to spare the rod. Jamie and Earl seemed to get a whipping almost every day. (Earl Stewart lied about his age, enlisted in the army and was killed in the invasion of Europe on D-day.) My teacher, Mr. Stewart preferred to paddle. He was not overly enthusiastic about it, but he did paddle hard enough that after a spanking kids tended to behave instead of having to return for an encore. I was not a regular visitor to the front of the room _ Lord knows I should have been _ only partially because I feared the pain; the humiliation would have been worse. A paddling was sure to be a major topic of discussion during the next recess. We wanted to know all the details because we might be next. We needed to know what to expect. “How many licks did he get?” “Did he cry?” “Did it hurt?” “Did her dress fly up?” Nobody wanted to admit that it hurt even though they may have had trouble holding back the tears during the whole ordeal. Only the regulars, like Jamie, Denice and Earl, were not embarrassed. They even wore an extra suit of underwear in anticipation of the event. Students who were in junior-high and attending school at Oceana brought back stories that had us first graders wondering if we would ever be able to make it through to high school. We were warned that “the teachers at Oceana use paddles with holes in them in order to inflict more pain and principal uses an electric paddle.” Talk about cruel and unusual. No matter how you feel about corporal punishment in schools, it’s hard to argue that it wasn’t effective--------- except for Jamie and Earl.

I walked into the room where my wife was watching a TV program the other nite about paddling in school. Some CNN-designated "experts" were arguing over whether it should be universally outlawed or not. Because of my directly related experience, I think I know a thing or two about the paddling in schools. But I didn't want to start an argument that I knew I could not win - I never win - so I went back down stairs and began to write again about my school days in southern West Virginia. I bet some of you can relate to my experiences; some may be even know more about the subject than I. Read and enjoy, STAN School Days Students in my day were expected to be polite and abide by the rules. We were taught to raise our hands for permission to speak or to leave the room for any reason. Whispering while classes were in session was a definite no-no. The simple use of a byword, not necessarily a curse word, was grounds for punishment. I believe more whippings were because of boys slipping around and smoking than any other reason. Girls were not immune, however. One girl in my class "got a whippin" when she threw a rock across the road in front of a passing car. If a student misbehaved, he or she could expect to get a whipping. If a parent learned of the whipping the recalcitrant youngster often got another whipping at home. Jamie Brooks was our principal’s son. He, Denice Stewart and Earl Stewart were in the sixth grade and were always in trouble. There was an ample supply of willow switches on the riverbank behind our school and Mr. Brooks was not one to spare the rod. Jamie and Earl seemed to get a whipping almost every day. (Earl Stewart lied about his age, enlisted in the army and was killed in the invasion of Europe on D-day.) My teacher, Mr. Stewart preferred to paddle. He was not overly enthusiastic about it, but he did paddle hard enough that after a spanking kids tended to behave instead of having to return for an encore. I was not a regular visitor to the front of the room _ Lord knows I should have been _ only partially because I feared the pain; the humiliation would have been worse. A paddling was sure to be a major topic of discussion during the next recess. We wanted to know all the details because we might be next. We needed to know what to expect. “How many licks did he get?” “Did he cry?” “Did it hurt?” “Did her dress fly up?” Nobody wanted to admit that it hurt even though they may have had trouble holding back the tears during the whole ordeal. Only the regulars, like Jamie, Denice and Earl, were not embarrassed. They even wore an extra suit of underwear in anticipation of the event. Students who were in junior-high and attending school at Oceana brought back stories that had us first graders wondering if we would ever be able to make it through to high school. We were warned that “the teachers at Oceana use paddles with holes in them in order to inflict more pain and principal uses an electric paddle.” Talk about cruel and unusual. No matter how you feel about corporal punishment. It’s hard to argue that it wasn’t effective--------- except for Jamie and Earl.

All coal mines have rats. The rat was the miner's best friend at times. When the overhead rock in the mines started moving, it was near impossible for a miner to know it,unless it was getting ready to fall. The rats knew though; soon as it happened, they would start rapid movements away from that dangerous area,and give the miners notice. No miner I know would ever kill a mine rat. They were friends, and sometimes rewarded with part of the miner's lunch for gratitude. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Debbie, No, I don't live in Man now. I grew up and went to school there. I go back any chance I have. I'm in Virginia. Yes, Francis and Tabitha. I like taking photos of family graves for my research, a lot can be learned about family ties sometimes just by searching graveyards. Thanks, Bonnie **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Anita, Unfortunately they do not age discriminate. Will pray for continued improvement. Bonnie **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

This is merely a guess, but I believe the Post office of Shively,WV was the location of Whirlwind, on Harts Creek. Tell us nore,Dodie ! Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Stanley I can certainly relate to your story of Thanksgiving in Korea 1952. I debarked at Inchon about 2 weeks before Thanksgiving 1952 and was quickly transported to the 1st Marine Regt. Coldest place I have ever been in my life and we must have had the same cook because my Thanksgiving closely resembled yours. And that Canteen cup, wow! If you let it get cold then touch it to your mouth, the skin froze to the cup and thats the last drink you took that day. By the time we got sat down in the trenches with our meal it was Ice cold, funny, its a little comical thinking back to that time now but it wasn't very funny then. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] (no subject)Re Stanley > Stanley, > I have a living Uncle from Logan who also was in Korea in 1952. > Because he is living I should not post his name here but he also is in the > Browning line. > Write to me, you might know him. > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "STANLEY BROWNING" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]>" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:22 AM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] (no subject) > > > > With so many interesting thanksgiving stories flying about I had > resolved to just sit back and enjoy them because I have so many fond > memories of Thanksgivings past that I > couldn't choose the best story from among them. However, when > someone mentioned Army Thanksgiving chow, and I thought of the lonely > soldiers away from home stationed in Iraq this Thanksgiving, I no > longer could contain myself. I have much to say on the general > subject, of Army chow, but I digress. I will relate only one > experience. > > It was Thanksgiving 1952 high on a ridge overlooking the sea in Korea. > Climactic conditions and the topography were somewhat similiar to what > one might encounter on the ridges in winter here in our Rocky > Mountains; however, > I was not there because of the exellent skiing. There were no roads to > our positions. The snow was deep, it was terribly cold and all of our > food, water and supplies were carried up to the lines by caravans of > South Korean nationals who were enlisted just for that purpose. (We > called them "chogi-bears.") That was how provisions for our > Thanksgiving dinner were delivered. > > I had received letters from home that restated what the papers were > saying that each soldier was to receive mega- pounds of turkey with all > the trimmings for Thanksgiving dinner. Our cooks set up a makeshift > kitchen in a trench behind the lines where they cooked and tried to keep > the food warm. We left our positions in shifts and toted our metal mess > kits and canteen cups to the "chow hall" expecting to eat ourselves > silly. > > One hasn't really lived until he has eaten and drank from army metal > mess equipment at temperatures below zero while wearing heavy mittens > and standing and moving around to stay warm. As an aside, I want to say > that my hat goes off to the well-meaning designer of mess gear who chose > to provide a heavy rim around the lip of the canteen cup. It was a > terrific heat sink. Hot coffee would raise the temperature of the rim > to a point that one could not bear to place it to his lips. By the time > the temperature at the rim could be tolerated, the coffee was near > ice cold. On this > Thanksgiving, I was served hydrated powdered milk, not coffee; it > froze in the cup. > > Our meal included the usual Thanksgiving fare, i. e., turkey, cranberry > sauce, pumpkin pie, etc. but the portions were miniscule. I took a look > at the lonesome little mound on my "plate" and remarked quite loudly > that I planned to take a picture of it and mail it to my senator along > with a copy of the news story hyping the soldiers' Thanksgiving. > > Boy did that get attention! My company commander, who overheard my > remarks, > took me seriously and rushed over and told the cooks to fill my plate > and if need be to give me seconds. If something sounds fishy about this > story, it apparently was just that. As the rumors had it, the cooks, or > someone in a position to do so, had black-marketed some of the > provisions intended for troops on the front lines. I don't know if that > was true; I never tried to follow up on it as I had other things on my > mind. I had plenty to be thankful for in spite of having to threaten > everyone but the Almighty to get my Thanksgiving meal. After that, any > time I saw my company commander, he asked if I was getting enough to > eat. > > My company commander was not the only one who was interested. That > night as the Korean version of Axis Sallie was signing off after > providing an evening of music and propaganda from loudspeakers on the > next ridge over, she asked if the soldiers of the Forty-Fithth Division > had enjoyed their Thanksgiving so far removed from their loved ones. > > By the way, I can verify that there was plenty of turkey > consumed here in Utah this Thanksgiving. > > STAN > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message