This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1344.3.2 Message Board Post: Debbie, I have that your Jordan Smith III died as a young man. Do you know any details about how and when he died? I have this on him: Born: July 4, 1877 Married: Mary "Margie" Brogan who was born April 4, 1880 and died May 18, 1954. I have two children born to them: Stella, born September 19, 1899 Dessie/Diffie (male) born about 1904. Margie then married Strauder/Strawder Smith about 1907. They had Earl, Esta, Dewey, Wilkie and Arvil. This Strauder was the illegitmate son of Millie Smith, who was Jordan Smith Jr's sister, (Jordan llls aunt). He was born in 1880. His father may have been Joe or Joel Midkiff. (as seen at gencircles.com) Thanks again, Lora

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1344.3.1 Message Board Post: Debbie, I guess this makes us distant kin. What "line" do you come down from? I would love to have the picture! My mother remembers Strauder and his family and does not recall that they ever went by Pauley, either. I do believe that Strauder was probably the son of George Pauley, but why the family would use the Holstein name for everything else and then give Pauley on death records is a mystery to me. I think it would be a pretty big coincidence for two little boys to be born in McCorkle on the same day and both be named Strauder and nothing is ever heard of this Strauder Pauley until he dies and is buried at Pine Grove, no headstone found, while there is no death record for Strauder Holstein who is buried beside his wife at Pine Grove and whose son gave her name as Nancy Holstein Pauley when she died. I need to go back and check the year of death for Strauder Holstein on the headstone. The death record for Strauder Pauley is, I think, 1947. Another researcher shared a picture of George and Serepty (Nancy's half sister) with me, and my Mom and her brothers were so thrilled. They were very close to their grandparents but had no pictures of them as everything was lost in a fire in the 1950s. Would you be interested in this picture, if I can still find the file? I wonder if the two women look alike? Many thanks, Lora

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZCC.2ACE/1344.3 Message Board Post: I am a descendent of Jordan Smith, brother of Nancy and your Serepty. I have not heard that Strauder and his children went by the Pauley name, but that is not to say it did not happen. I do know that Susan later marries an Allen and has several children by him. Rumor has it that Strawder was illegitimate, perhaps a Pauley was the father. I have a picture of Strawder and Nancy if you are interested. It is taken where they lived, across from Pine Grove Church. Debbie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1344.2 Message Board Post: HI, I HAVE PEOPLE FROM THERE.SOME ARE BURIED THERE(PINE GROVE). I WILL CHECK MY FILES WHEN I CAN. HEADING OFF TO WORK. LATER KAY

Is any one on the list researching the Lacy's or Lively's from Washington District in Lincoln Co., WV ??? Patrick Murphy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1344.1 Message Board Post: Hi Lora, Alot of my family came from Lincoln County. Particiularly McCorkle. I also have family buried at Pine Grove Cemetary. When my dad comes up tomorrow, I will ask him about your info(if I don't forget). I think I have heard him speak of George and Quiller Pauley.

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In a message dated 11/10/2005 9:35:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, Loree63@aol.com writes: > Other [?? other than whom?] researchers give his mother as Susan Holstein, > father unknown. Some note that Susan married George Pauley who then became > Strauder's stepfather. When Strauder's wife Nancy died, their son gave her name > as Nancy Holstein Pauley. I have no record of a second marriage for her. > This is what got me curious. Also, she is buried beside Strauder and they share > a headstone. He died first. I can find no death record for Strauder Holstein, > but there is one for Strauder Pauley, of McCorkle who was the husband of > Nancy Pauley and the son of George Pauley and Julie Holstein. The informant's > name looks like it could be Quiller Pauley, but the first few letters of the > first name are unclear. Strauder and Nancy Holstein had a son named Quiller. I > have never seen the name Strauder Pauley on any other records and McCorkle > isn't a really big place. I have 3 'spouses' for George, I would like some dates for the ones I'm missing and missing children Descendants of George M/W Pauley 1 [1] George M/W PAULEY b: 27 June 1847 in Kanawha Co., VA d: 19 May 1918 in Lincoln Co., WV .. +Susan HOLSTEIN b: 1852 m: Abt. 1869 not married Father: Allen HOLSTEIN Mother: Rebecca LACY 2 Strawder HOLSTEIN b: 20 May 1870 .... +Nancy Ann SMITH ... 3 Alexander Lawrence HOLSTEIN b: 20 October 1895 in Lincoln Co., WV ....... +Lula Ada PAULEY b: 04 December 1895 in Snowden, Lincoln Co., WV m: 06 October 1919 in Lincoln Co., WV d: 25 August 1979 in Sod, Lincoln Co., WV Father: James Willis PAULEY Mother: Flora Deana CREMEANS *1st Wife of [1] George M/W PAULEY: .. +Virginia PAUL b: 24 May 1848 m: 25 January 1871 in Lincoln Co., WV d: 24 January 1910 in Lincoln Co., WV *2nd Wife of [1] George M/W PAULEY: .. +Althalia CABELL b: February 1895 m: 03 August 1913 in Lincoln Co., WV d: 25 January 1978 Father: Charles CABELL Mother: Maria PAULEY Thanks for writing, Sandy in Florida Sorry I am so behind with my mail but it is fantasy football season!

Hi, I have him in my files.. I have him listed as John Strauder Holstein b-abl 1870 in Lincoln, WV. Nancy Smith is d/o of Jordan F. Jr. Smith & Julia Ann Dolin. Are these yours? Emma Price Ayles ----- Original Message ----- From: <Loree63@aol.com> To: <WVLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:52 PM Subject: [WVLINCOL] Strauder Holstein/Pauley, McCorkle WV > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1344 > > Message Board Post: > > I have been researching the families in the McCorkle area where my > mother's family lived for generations. One person who really interests me > is Strauder Holstein. He married Nancy Smith, a sister of my mother's > grandmother, Serepty Smith McCormick. All of these folks are buried at > Pine Grove Cemetery, McCorkle. (Having died in the 1940s and 1950s) > > Does anyone know if Strauder Holstein and his family also went by the > surname "Pauley" at times? > > Other researchers give his mother as Susan Holstein, father unknown. Some > note that Susan married George Pauley who then became Strauder's > stepfather. When Strauder's wife Nancy died, their son gave her name as > Nancy Holstein Pauley. I have no record of a second marriage for her. This > is what got me curious. Also, she is buried beside Strauder and they share > a headstone. He died first. I can find no death record for Strauder > Holstein, but there is one for Strauder Pauley, of McCorkle who was the > husband of Nancy Pauley and the son of George Pauley and Julie Holstein. > The informant's name looks like it could be Quiller Pauley, but the first > few letters of the first name are unclear. Strauder and Nancy Holstein had > a son named Quiller. I have never seen the name Strauder Pauley on any > other records and McCorkle isn't a really big place. This is all probably > as "clear as mud" but maybe someone out there knows what I'm talking about > and can clear things up. By the way, I saw th! > is same sort of thing on my Dad's side of the family and the > interchangeable names created a wall I thought I'd never get through. I > finally did after about ten years of looking right at the "people" , well > records, I had been looking for all along! > > Also, Strauder's name can appear as "Stawder, Strader, " etc. > > Hope so, > Lora > > > ==== WVLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Visit this site for information about this list. > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jjadkins/lcwv/mail.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1344 Message Board Post: I have been researching the families in the McCorkle area where my mother's family lived for generations. One person who really interests me is Strauder Holstein. He married Nancy Smith, a sister of my mother's grandmother, Serepty Smith McCormick. All of these folks are buried at Pine Grove Cemetery, McCorkle. (Having died in the 1940s and 1950s) Does anyone know if Strauder Holstein and his family also went by the surname "Pauley" at times? Other researchers give his mother as Susan Holstein, father unknown. Some note that Susan married George Pauley who then became Strauder's stepfather. When Strauder's wife Nancy died, their son gave her name as Nancy Holstein Pauley. I have no record of a second marriage for her. This is what got me curious. Also, she is buried beside Strauder and they share a headstone. He died first. I can find no death record for Strauder Holstein, but there is one for Strauder Pauley, of McCorkle who was the husband of Nancy Pauley and the son of George Pauley and Julie Holstein. The informant's name looks like it could be Quiller Pauley, but the first few letters of the first name are unclear. Strauder and Nancy Holstein had a son named Quiller. I have never seen the name Strauder Pauley on any other records and McCorkle isn't a really big place. This is all probably as "clear as mud" but maybe someone out there knows what I'm talking about and can clear things up. By the way, I saw th! is same sort of thing on my Dad's side of the family and the interchangeable names created a wall I thought I'd never get through. I finally did after about ten years of looking right at the "people" , well records, I had been looking for all along! Also, Strauder's name can appear as "Stawder, Strader, " etc. Hope so, Lora

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grass, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1230.1.4 Message Board Post: I found photos of Zach B:1881 and Allie Grass B: 1883 with our Green family around 1932 fayetteville, WV. I am trying to determine how they are related. Zach may be the younger brother of my Mary Francis Grass 1866-1920. I found Zach and his family in 1910 castlewood, Russle,VA, 1920 Lotts Creek, Perry ,Kentucky and 1930 Big Creek, McDowell, WV,census but nothing with his parents. Do you have them in any of your lines?

Does anyone have a picture of Hamlin High School, the one that burnt down and also the one that is standing now? If so could you or would you be willing to scan it and send it to me please? I have some yearbooks with the picture but cannot seem to get them to come out clearly. Thanks Pj

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZCC.2ACE/1241.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes Ruth, I am related to Abner Vance. email me privately and I'll give you my line. Candisfirchau@yahoo.com

Does anyone have any information about the old movie house that used to be in Hamlin years ago? I would love a picture but anything would be of help. Who ran it or when it came to be and when he stopped being a movie theater? Thanks PJ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Edwards Frye Vannatter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/800.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in Hiram Edwards mention in this obituary. Do you know if he had brothers named Freed married Lottie Mae Vannatter (Adkins) and Homer and maybe a sister Julia married name Stephens

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/71.379 Message Board Post: Do you have a Ervin Adkins married to Mary Vannatter had daughter Lottie Mae Vannatter (her children listed Vannatter as her last name insread of Adkins) She born 1894 ( maybe Huntington) d. 1974 buried in Franklin Cemetery, Branchland, Lincoln County WV

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZCC.2ACE/1027.3 Message Board Post: Talmage E. Edwards was my father's uncle. Freed Clyde Edwards was his father. Freed was born 17 apr 1892 died apr 1965. Freed was m. to Lottie Mae Vannatter (Adkins?) I have she was born 11 jul 1894 d aug 1974 I believe they are buried in Franklin Cemetery Branchland, Lincoln, WV They had 8 children Talmage was the oldest. All have passed except the youngest who lives in Elyria OH. I just recently visited with him. I may have a lead on Freed's father. I am currently working this line. Freed had a sister Julia, a brother Homer, and abrother Hiram. There are other siblings. I have photos of all above mentioned.

Maude K. Elkins born Jan. 14, 1915 and died Oct. 12, 1961. She is buried in the Edwards cemetery, Myra, WV. Her headstone says "MOTHER" on it. I've been trying to figure out Maude's maiden name, parents, siblings, spouse, children, ANYTHING on her with absolutely no luck. I live in NV so my resources are limited. My theory is she is related either by birth or marriage to someone in the Edwards cemetery. My reasons for that is in June 2005 I was in WV and visited the cemetery. I've been able to connect every person in that cemetery with the exception of Maude back to Elizabeth Edwards. Maude is the only one I still need to figure out. If anyone can help me unlock the mystery of Maude's identity, I would appreciate it so much. Thanks for any help Lora

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZCC.2ACE/1343 Message Board Post: Maude K. Elkins born Jan. 14, 1915 and died Oct. 12, 1961. She is buried in the Edwards cemetery, Myra, WV. Her headstone says "MOTHER" on it. I've been trying to figure out Maude's maiden name, parents, siblings, spouse, children, ANYTHING on her with absolutely no luck. I live in NV so my resources are limited. My theory is she is related either by birth or marriage to someone in the Edwards cemetery. My reasons for that is in June 2005 I was in WV and visited the cemetery. I've been able to connect every person in that cemetery with the exception of Maude back to Elizabeth Edwards. Maude is the only one I still need to figure out. If anyone can help me unlock the mystery of Maude's identity, I would appreciate it so much. Thanks for any help Lora