Hi...i am new to this list. working on the Bevel family in and around Clendenin and Spencer WV anyone one out there know of them? appreciate any tidbits....... marilyn deloach elliott duluth mn

Mike, I too, remember, my grandpa was such a man apparently cut from similar cloth. I loved your poem and it truly brought tears to my eyes. Thank you, Barb Harvey

----- Original Message ----- From: Bette B. McIntosh To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: Fw: families: Baker and Saunders>Mason and Kanawha Counties ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette B. McIntosh To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: Fw: families: Baker and Saunders>Mason and Kanawha Counties ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette B. McIntosh To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 10:09 PM Subject: families: Baker and Saunders>Mason and Kanawha Counties Dear List, Can anyone help with any knowledge of family surnames Baker and Saunders circa 1880-1910 in the area of London, Kanawha County? These are the families of my paternal grandparents who were both born in London, WV. My grandfather, Orvil Leonard Baker was born abt 1886 to parents Maria Cossins and Charles H. Baker My grandmother, Mary Welby Saunders was born 16 Oct 1890 to parents Annette Campbell Straughan and Robert George Saunders I believe that the Cossins and Bakers were originally from the area of Mason (Mason County), WV. I would appreciate any help and direction you can give me as to where to look in your area for documentation regarding these individuals. I live in WI and am unfamiliar with where the records for these counties are filed and most likely to be found in West Virginia. Regards, Bette [email protected]

If my grandfather, Obert O. Coleman, were still alive, we would be celebrating his 97th birthday on this Monday, the 2nd of July. Grandpa was a quiet man, a fair man & a compassionate man. He was a man who would never back down from a conflict as long as he thought the cause was right. The following is my attempt at a rhyming dedication: Grandpa didn't say much But when he did nobody stirred 'Cause he said more than most folk When he didn't say a word He hammered for a living Raised some cattle, crops & kids Each grew beyond expectations You expected such for what Grandpa did He drank his coffee from a saucer His whiskey from a flask hidden in his hand He smoked Salem menthols & chewed the Mail Pouch brand He drove a Ford tractor & an old Model T But did his courting on horseback I am told Grandma rode "side saddle" in his arms Closed her eyes & dreamed about a band of gold He'd sing me a song about "Lin's Creek Mountain" And some of Jimmie Rodgers' blues I may have only been knee high at the time But on his lap I was 6 feet 2 He'd take me for ice cream And it made me prouder than any toy When he introduced me as "his little man" 'Cause I was just a boy. He gave me my first cigarette But it wasn't lit & I didn't smoke It was just his way of letting me run ornery When Mom, Aunt & Grandma wanted to choke He loved the game of boxing Jack Dempsey was his man But Grandpa loved to tell the story Of how Joe Louis fought Schmeling of the Nazi land Many people came to hear the fight Sandwiches, cold drinks & a Truetone radio But two minutes into the match it was over Max was on the canvas & it was time to go He taught me about a work ethic If you give 8 hours work for 8 hours pay When you look in the mirror for your morning shave You'll be more than ready to start another day The tears on my face are salty They fall for the "salt of the land" But has it been that long Since they were wiped away by Grandpa's sturdy hand? It's a travesty that his hammer no longer pounds the nails Or that the humming of his electric saw can not be heard Emphysema slowly smothered & finally silenced Grandpa Who said more than most folk when he didn't say a word Happy birthday Grandpa! We sure miss you! Sincerely, Mike Peters [email protected]

Mike................You are right.......If we were to have all the answers our children would have nothing to search for.........therefore, genealogy would be no more. Lynn

When I was younger, my mother taught me the differences between the real world & the ideal world. We lived in the real while striving for the ideal. She taught me that fair was a concept that always existed in the ideal world & that life in the real world was often anything but fair. This afternoon I thought about the ideal genealogical world & what it would be like to live in a world full of documentation. This world would contain a complete 1890 Census. Censuses prior to 1850 would list every member of the household by correct name, exact age & proper relationship to HOH. Every grave would have a stone with legible engravings. The cemeteries would be well kept & would never become overgrown. There would be complete records available re: the ancestors of American Indians. Everyone would be proud of their heritage whether they descend from a President or a horse thief. Every mother & father would leave a will that lists all of their children. Every person would have an obit. Old documents would be easy to read. All documents would be typewritten. All records would be fireproof. Transcriptions would contain no errors. Nicknames would not be allowed on legal documents. The census taker would always be dependable & thorough. They would always ask for clarification. No one would lie about their age. The birth certificate of every illegitimate child would list a father. Fathers & sons would be differentiated by a Jr. or Sr. following their names. Oral legend would be accurate. Nothing would be hidden or exaggerated. Every family would have a Bible jammed full of reliable genealogical information. All pictures would come with names & dates on the back. It would be nice to live in the ideal world for a little while, if just to knock down a couple of our genealogical brick walls. But would we enjoy this game of "hide 'n seek" as much, if everything came so easy. I don't think so. Most of the adrenaline rush associated with this addiction comes courtesy of the hunt itself. We thrive on the debate & live for the interrogation. Along the way, we meet new friends & cousins, hunters of the same game, who accompany us on our quest. Maybe we'll never bag our limit in the real world. Maybe that's not what the game of genealogy is all about. Maybe it's all about who plays the game with you. If that's the case, I'm sure glad I reside in the real world. Thanks for listening & as my Grandma Coleman used to say, "Ya'll come!" Sincerely, Mike Peters [email protected]

Ancestry.com passed along in their daily newsletter that the SSN rates were increasing. I went to the site and the new fees become effective July 1st. Does anyone know if this is based on the postmark date, when they receive it, or when they actually start the research? Below is a link to the site. http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm Regards, Pat Muniz Researching AMOS, ANGEL, BRADSHAW, BRYANT, HOWARD, SNYDER, UTTERBACK/OTTERBACH

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I found a death certificate and obituary for my g-g-grandmother. The obituary said that her funeral services were held at Lawrence M.E. Church. Does anyone know of this church? It may have been in St. Albans as that was her place of residence when she died in 1925. But I the obituary didn't say what city the church was in. I'm guessing the M.E. stands for Methodist Episcopal, but I don't know for certain. Can anyone help me find this church? -- Cara (Gregory) Showers Anchorage, Alaska [email protected]

Pattie Hannon; <[email protected]>; 25 Jun 2001 I am a descendant of Joseph Carroll of Kanawha Co., VA, thru his dau., Leah. I do not have a George recorded as a son, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a son by that name. Below is a brief Register Report on the family: _________ From files of The Tackett Family Assn. ___________________ 1. Joseph CARROLL, 18485. Born abt 1739/58 in Frederick Co. ?, VA. [also given unverified as 22 Apr 1736]. Joseph prob. died aft 1793 in Kanawha Co. ?, VA. Land Ownership: Land recorded in present Kanawha Co., WV [prob. then in Botetourt Co.]. Military information recorded: Frontier Indian Wars, 1790’s. Parentage: Seemed to be proved by Last Will of his apparent father, William Carroll in 1759, and reference in land record. Joseph married Mary [?], 24881. They had the following known/apparent children: 2 i. Leah, 18261 (1771-1811), marr. Davis Alderson, c1768-1851 3 ii. William, 24878 4 iii. Drucilla, 24879 (-1844), marr. John Moss 5 iv. Elizabeth, 25231, marr. James Moss. __________________________________ Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <[email protected]> *************************************************************** Tackett Assn. Website: <http://www.tackettfamilies.com> [For a reply to genealogy email, please include your full name & home USPS mailing address. Thanks.] _________________ Pattie Hannon; <[email protected]>; 25 Jun 2001; wrote to [email protected] Guess I should have been a little more specific. This Joseph CARROLL would have lived in the 18th century. I believe he may be the father of my George CARROLL / CARREL who was b. about 1755 in MD, resided from about 1782 to about 1810 in Washington Co., PA, died 1823 in Morgan Co., OH. Name of Joseph was carried down in the family. Thanks, Pattie

Guess I should have been a little more specific. This Joseph CARROLL would have lived in the 18th century. I believe he may be the father of my George CARROLL / CARREL who was b. about 1755 in MD, resided from about 1782 to about 1810 in Washington Co., PA, died 1823 in Morgan Co., OH. Name of Joseph was carried down in the family. Thanks, Pattie

Looking for info on Joseph CARROLL who came to Kanawha Co. from Frederick Co., MD. Thanks, Pattie

Searching for any information on my great grandparents Wilbur U. Williams born 1859 and Cynthia Griffith born 1869. Their children were Mary L., b1884, Frank, b1887, Golden C., b1894, and George, b1897. Thanks, Mike

Hello Everyone, During the 1850 Census - 29th. District, Kanawha County, Virginia, Owen Batman CLARK(E) (b. abt 1834) was living with the Henry SHULLY family. The same (I think) Owen Batman CLARK(E) later married Nancy Ann HALL, d/o Moses HALL & Nancy TULLY. Does anyone know who Owen Batman CLARK(E) parents were? I'm wondering if Batman was possibly his mother's maiden name? There was a BATMAN family around the Kanawha County area at the time. All born in Virginia unless otherwise noted. Alexander Batman, 43, m, Manager of Coal Bank, Virginia Nancy Batman, 41, f, William Wooden, 7, m Harrison Batman, 16, m Adaline L. Batman, 12, f, Rona Batman, 10, f Narsassa Batman, 8, f Eliza Batman, 6, f George Batman, 4, m M. S. Wooden family is living in the area so maybe William Wooden is somehow connected to them. Thanks for any help. Pat Surnames I'm Researching - Primarily North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia/west Virginia....Clark, Davis, Good, Goode, Haldeman, Kidd, Landers, Martin, Midkiff, Nicholas, Nichols, Oglesby, Parsons, Pauley, Pemberton, Riffe, Ranck/Ronk, Self/Selfe, Showalter, Turley & Wallace/Wallis.

Hello Everyone, Living with William CLARK (b. abt. 1838) s/o Jesse CLARK & Susan PAULEY, and his wife Armilda _______? (b. abt. 2/1850) during the 1910 Kanawha County Census was a niece; Mary MALLORY, w, f, 16 (1894), s, West Virginia; also Vergie HUTSON, a niece, 16, (1894) s, West Virginia. I've been able to place Vergie HUTSON as a child of William's sister Sarah CLARK (b. 7/1844) and Nelson HUTSON (b. abt 1843), but can't seem to place Mary MALLORY. Does anyone know anything about the couple below, children, etc.? Was this Sarah E. CLARK one of William's sisters? Clarke, Sarah E. Spouse: Mallory, Charles Marriage Date: Feb 17, 1884 County : Kanawha Gender : Female Source : County Clerk Records Microfilm Number : 0521720 Also does anyone know Armilda surname? Thanks for any help. Pat

In 1837, within a week of each other, Cleopatra Bocock married Calvin Spradlin and Thomas Glover married Nancy Bocock in Bedford County, Va. In 1845 Richard Glover married Mary Bocock and Sarah Bocock married Franklin Glover, in Kanawha County, Va. All 4 ladies were sisters. I'd like to find if Thomas Glover was the brother of Richard and Franklin Glover and who Thomas's/their father was? You can reach me at [email protected], thanks, Mike Beckley

I do have his death certificate, which states that he was living in Silush Wv (now Cameo). That he died at the Kanawha Valley Hospital. I was just wondering which county's paper his obituary was in and if told any information about his family. Thanks , Monica

I was hoping that someone could find an obituary for a Robert Harson Collins (R.H. Collins). He died 2-21-1929. He was a coal miner. I was unsure if it would be in Boone Co. or Kanawha Co.. Any help you could give would be great. Thanks, Monica

"Michael S. Beckley" wrote: > Does Gallia County have an index for death certificates? > This man was still alive during 1920 census and by the Clay Chapel > inventory, at least, there is no date of death on his tombstone? He is > my wife's 2nd great grandfather and I'd like to obtain both his date of > death and any info on his death certificate regarding his mother's > maiden name. He was born c. 1845 to Thomas and Nancy Glover, probably in > Kanawha County, Va. and was a Civil War veteran in an Ohio Infantry > Regiment from Gallipolis. He outlived at least 2 of 3 wives: Martha > Gibson, Nancy Hazlett and Hannah Shively/Shipley(?). > > Thanks, Mike Beckley at [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

When you have the surname of Peters, it is not that uncommon to have the nickname of "Pete." Such was the case with my father -- Shelby H. Peters. Since I greatly resembled my father & since my mother often bought or made us clothes that were identical except in size, they started to call us "Pete & RePete." I followed that man like a beagle does a rabbit track and wouldn't let him out of my sight. We fished together. One night we hung our poles off Tampa, Florida's Gandy Bridge in an all-night-fishathon. OK, he fished & I fell asleep. But when he took the stringer full home the next morning, he told everyone it was "our catch." We hunted together on my maternal grandfather's land in Jackson County, WV. I don't remember ever killing anything when we hunted. We probably did. But whether we did or not was not as important as the camaraderie that grew between a father & his son. We played baseball together. I guess most of the memories of my ten short years with Dad revolve around the great game of baseball. I remember one day playing in the front yard of our Abilene, Texas home. My Dad had just bought me a new first baseman's mitt, a new 32 Louisville Slugger with Henry Aaron's facsimile autograph stamped on the barrel & a new baseball. We were trying them out & breaking them in. However, since we were playing in the front yard, my Dad opted for a tennis ball instead of the usual hard ball. "We could break a window," was his explanation. He pitched me one inside & I turned on it just as my mother stuck her head out the front door to yell, "Lunch is ready!" The ball caught her square in the right eye. She was crying. I was scared, crying & trembling. Dad settled us down & my Mom had a shiner to explain to the neighbors. She laughs about it now. I'm just glad that Dad replaced the hard baseball with the softer tennis ball. Another time Dad & I were at a garage sale. I saw something I wanted on a back table over in the corner with a price tag of 50 cents on it. It was a cigar box filled with some 500 baseball cards from the years 1957-1964. 50 cents was my entire weekly allowance. This was toward the end of the week & I was broke. So I had to ask Dad for a loan. He asked why I wanted the money & I told him. His reply was, "50 cents for some cardboard!" He shook his head, questioning my investment, but gave me the money anyhow. I remember my father & I watching NBC's "Baseball Game of the Week" on Saturday afternoons. "Pee Wee" Reese & "Dizzy" Dean were the announcers. The first World Series I remember was the 1965 version won by the Dodgers of Los Angeles over the Twins of Minnesota. Koufax & Drysdale were just too much for Oliva & Killebrew. Dad sat by my side on the couch. This Sunday, my daughters will probably bring me breakfast in bed as is our tradition. They'll also bring me the newspaper to read. I'll smile at their homemade cards & bask in the limelight that is Father's Day. Maybe this Sunday, I'll start a new tradition. Maybe I'll substitute the sports section for some pieces of cardboard. The cigar box is gone now, replaced by a notebook & some clear protective pages. Maybe I'll show the baseball cards to his grandchildren & tell them the stories. Maybe they'll ask me, as they often do, to play catch or kick a soccer ball with them in our front yard. It will be reminiscent of a time when a young boy lived for baseball, when he collected cardboard portraits of the players & when he played with his hero in the front yard. And this time, I'll make sure that Mom ducks! Happy Father's Day! Sincerely, Mike Peters [email protected]