This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WCC.2ACE/4198.1.1.1 Message Board Post: rootsweb apparently did not go far enough. looking up Pleasant Timberlake , he was Hannah Gilman's second husband. Also punched in his name into Yahoo...second item on that site says he was murdered while Hannah was pregnant with Hiram. Sounds like he was raised with the name Sayre to match his siblings. Other people looking into this who may have pieces of info: [email protected] and [email protected]