for certain folks stayed together/moved together. s >From: "D. Shepard" <dshep8505@msn.com> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:08:53 -0700 > >Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for >"financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean >for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in >Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my >family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same way >as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. > I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families >reason >"Why". > Yours, Don S. > > > >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net> > >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > > > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more > >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the > >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one > >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land > >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, > >wherever > >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for > >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by > >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they >laid > >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the > >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed > >alot > >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming > >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get > >more > >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into > >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I > >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and > >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. > >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have > >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land > >grants > >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart > >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went >and > >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was >being > >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the >1770s > >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius > >Bogard) > >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster > >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I > >believe > >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held > >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good > >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail >from > >a > >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for > >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over >again" > >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my > >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a > >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. > >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical > >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification >of > >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be > >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. > >Why > >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine > >family > >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular > >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum > >it > >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > > > >Best regards, > > > >David Armstrong, > >Elkins, WV > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get today's hot entertainment gossip >http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Be seen and heard with Windows Live Messenger and Microsoft LifeCams http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/digitalcommunication/default.mspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline