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    1. Re: [WVHARDY] [SPAM] Re: United Brethren Church & Stover Family
    2. Okey Simmons
    3. Part of those roots run into my family. Christina, Lew's sis married Jacob Wolfe. Okey Simmons ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Whetsel" <whetsel7@msn.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > I will add my 2 cents on this subject. Fertilizer or lack of it was > another reason to search out new ground. After 3-4 years of farming a > piece of ground it was worn out as the people of that period would say . > So the lure of new and fertile ground in distance places was enough for > these people to move in hopes of a better life. Plus land grants > Mine migrates to east Tn. Another reason the farther they could remove > them selves from the governing bodies of the east , The better of they > were. One needs to look at the migration into the Shenandoah valley from > Md. after the whiskey war. These people did not feel the government had a > right to tax their whiskey or any thing else they had worked so hard for. > So they migrated to the hills of VA-WVA-KY in hopes of putting distance > between them and those who wish to tax them. This was probably one of the > reason for the western movements. Just a thought. > My roots run deep into VA-WVA. Wetzel county was named after my line of > Wetzel's. A lot of these people were Palatine German's and because most > were related in some form or the other had a tendency to migrate togather. > > Robert Whetsel > Radford Va. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D. Shepard<mailto:dshep8505@msn.com> > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > > > Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for > "financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean > for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in > Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my > family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same > way > as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. > I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families > reason > "Why". > Yours, Don S. > > > >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net<mailto:heraldry@meer.net>> > >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com>> > >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > > > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was > more > >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook > the > >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it > one > >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running > land > >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, > >wherever > >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for > >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by > >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they > laid > >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the > >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed > >alot > >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming > >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get > >more > >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into > >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While > I > >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and > >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. > >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have > >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land > >grants > >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the > Tygart > >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went > and > >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was > being > >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the > 1770s > >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius > >Bogard) > >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial > disaster > >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I > >believe > >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held > >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good > >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail > from > >a > >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for > >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over > again" > >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my > >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a > >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. > >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical > >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification > of > >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be > >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. > >Why > >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine > >family > >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular > >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can > sum > >it > >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > > > >Best regards, > > > >David Armstrong, > >Elkins, WV > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get today's hot entertainment gossip > http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip<http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

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