Yes, this sounds very familiar. I have so many John Hawks I can hardly keep them straight. And I've been searching for parents of John and Martin for a long time with no success. I did find a John Houk and Martin Houk who came in to Philadelphia about 1772 (am unpacking and can't find anything right now). They arrived within a month of each other. But children of John said on 1880 census that parents were born in Virginia. So, still no luck. I'm reading my mail from the bottom up so may find more to respond to. Genie Hawk Holt