Is this the book also known as HARDY COUNTY THEN AND NOW 1786-1986? If so, this is an awesome book and worth every penny! I have it!!

What kind of information does this book have? , Cindi K "Attitude Determines Altitude" -----Original Message----- From: wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WPolyniak@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:35 PM To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] History of Hardy County 1786-1986 Is this the book also known as HARDY COUNTY THEN AND NOW 1786-1986? If so, this is an awesome book and worth every penny! I have it!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David I have been on this walk into history for quite some time and just about the time I think I have every thing right ,I don't. It is through discussing and sharing of ideals and fact as they come to light do we began to understand what it was we were looking for in the first place. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: David Armstrong<mailto:heraldry@meer.net> To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family Thanks for the positive feedback. I need to go on record right off saying that my ideas change and develop as more information comes to light and I have NOT studied much in depth after 1800 (Colonial days are my interest). So folks are free to question, ctiricize, add to , take from, suggest or whatever. the last line in your post reflects my main point. Best regards, David Armstrong, Elkins, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Shepard" <dshep8505@msn.com<mailto:dshep8505@msn.com>> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for > "financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean > for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in > Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my > family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same > way > as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. > I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families > reason > "Why". > Yours, Don S. > > >>From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net<mailto:heraldry@meer.net>> >>Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >>To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com>> >>Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >>Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 >> >>If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more >>work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the >>bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one >>needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land >>grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, >>wherever >>the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for >>settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by >>Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they >>laid >>off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the >>soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed >>alot >>but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming >>from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get >>more >>crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into >>areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I >>have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and >>therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. >>INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have >>been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land >>grants >>(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart >>Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went and >>there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was >>being >>gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the 1770s >>to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius >>Bogard) >>went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster >>having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I >>believe >>(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held >>captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good >>experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail from >>a >>person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for >>less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over again" >>(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my >>experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a >>financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. >>That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical >>events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification >>of >>individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be >>cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. >>Why >>the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine >>family >>history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular >>experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum >>it >>up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. >> >>Best regards, >> >>David Armstrong, >>Elkins, WV >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get today's hot entertainment gossip > http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip<http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will add my 2 cents on this subject. Fertilizer or lack of it was another reason to search out new ground. After 3-4 years of farming a piece of ground it was worn out as the people of that period would say . So the lure of new and fertile ground in distance places was enough for these people to move in hopes of a better life. Plus land grants Mine migrates to east Tn. Another reason the farther they could remove them selves from the governing bodies of the east , The better of they were. One needs to look at the migration into the Shenandoah valley from Md. after the whiskey war. These people did not feel the government had a right to tax their whiskey or any thing else they had worked so hard for. So they migrated to the hills of VA-WVA-KY in hopes of putting distance between them and those who wish to tax them. This was probably one of the reason for the western movements. Just a thought. My roots run deep into VA-WVA. Wetzel county was named after my line of Wetzel's. A lot of these people were Palatine German's and because most were related in some form or the other had a tendency to migrate togather. Robert Whetsel Radford Va. ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Shepard<mailto:dshep8505@msn.com> To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for "financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same way as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families reason "Why". Yours, Don S. >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net<mailto:heraldry@meer.net>> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com>> >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, >wherever >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they laid >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed >alot >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get >more >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land >grants >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went and >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was being >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the 1770s >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius >Bogard) >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I >believe >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail from >a >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over again" >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification of >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. >Why >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine >family >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum >it >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > >Best regards, > >David Armstrong, >Elkins, WV > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip<http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I have Anna Mumbert, daughter of Jacob and Margaret Mumbert, who married James Davis. Jacob and Margaret had six children: George, Elizabeth, Anna, Mary, John and Catherine. Any connection to these people. Jim >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] MIchael >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:23:03 -0400 > >This Mumbert had a relative Annie who married james Davis/Brake about 1819. >Any info on her would be welcome. > >As for Wise, there are two words in German "Weiss" and "Wiess" (at least >I >think the "ie" is the difference. Since I have Weese relatives that came >from Hardy I had a Gemran researcher look into it and he looked at the >notes >and told me that the above two words are different surnames one being >pronounced WEESE and the other WICE ("White"). When he looked at my Hardy >County Weese/Wise notes he was under the impression that there were two >families there early representing both of hte above. I myself never looked >close enough. > >Best regards, > >David Armstrong, >Elkins, WV >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Mouse" <stringbender30@hotmail.com> >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:42 AM >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] MIchael > > > > HI, > > > > I have a ancestor Jacob Wise from the same area in WV who married > > Elizabeth > > Mumbert. Any connection? Thanks > > > > Jim > > > > > >>From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <mlgossum@bellsouth.net> > >>Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > >>To: <pansy.rumsey@verizon.net>, <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > >>Subject: [WVHARDY] MIchael > >>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:10:22 -0500 > >> > >> > >>Pansy, I saw your message on the Hardy Co. page regarding Zena Michael >and > >>wondered if you might know anything about a Rachael Michael born Feb >1849. > >>She married Jacob Wise in Hardy Co. 27 Aug 1874. I have not located her >in > >>1850 or 1860 but in Hardy Co. 1870 she is listed in the home of Henry >Wise > >>and wife Mary Catherine Swisher as a "domestic servant". Mainly I am > >>trying > >>to prove that Jacob Wise is the long lost brother of my Mary Ann Wise > >>(1823-1893) and was hoping I could find a descendant of Jacob and >Rachael > >>who might confirm this. Any help appreciated. Mary Louise > >> > >>Outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes > >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

I have the Hampshire county Early Records book by Sage and Jones. ----- Original Message ----- From: <WPolyniak@aol.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] History of Hardy County 1786-1986 > Is this the book also known as HARDY COUNTY THEN AND NOW 1786-1986? If > so, > this is an awesome book and worth every penny! I have it!! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi... County records went to WV. Rev War military records stayed in VA. Karon "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer". ~ William S. Burroughs Dyer - Willson - Luckey - Scoville -----Original Message----- From: wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of wvhardy-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:27 PM To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Subject: WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 3 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) 2. Re: WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 (Karon) 3. Which state has the records? (BSS9876543@aol.com) 4. Re: WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:16:36 -0700 From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <013001c6dae1$9ed45490$31bd5545@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Shelia: These are the Tharps mentioned in this book Ann,Annie, Charles, Hannah,Perry and THomas Perry Tharp.There is also a Mary Elisabeth, Thorpe.. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelia Michael" <sheliamichael@tularosa.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > Rose, > > Hardy County was created from Hampshire County in VA in 1785. West VA > became a state in 1863. > > I don't know if both VA and WV have Hardy County records. Anyone out > there have definitive answer? > > Shelia > (Burch, Tharp, Bargerhoff) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:22:05 -0700 From: "Karon" <kcks39@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002d01c6dae2$630eb490$6501a8c0@notebook> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" County records went to WV... Rev War military records stayed in VA and did not go to the National Archives like all of the other states. Karon "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer". ~ William S. Burroughs Dyer - Willson - Luckey - Scoville -----Original Message----- From: wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of wvhardy-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:06 PM To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Subject: WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 Today's Topics: 1. Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) 2. Marriage books? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) 3. Re: Marriage books? (WPolyniak@aol.com) 4. Re: Which state has the records? (WPolyniak@aol.com) 5. Re: Which state has the records? (WPolyniak@aol.com) 6. Re: Which state has the records? (Roland Elliott) 7. Re: Which state has the records? (Roland Elliott) 8. Re: Which state has the records? (WPolyniak@aol.com) 9. Re: Which state has the records? (ffejlny@juno.com) 10. Re: Marriage books? (DeVault Genealogy) 11. Re: Which state has the records? (Shelia Michael) 12. Re: Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) 13. Re: Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:41:43 -0700 From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00cf01c6dabb$38247250$31bd5545@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Did Hardy county ever reside in VA? Or was it created after the split? I need to know where to look for records from the early 1800's. All of the records found in John Davis trunk were from Hardy Co. He married there also, so I am assuming he was from there as was his wife. Rose ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:44:31 -0700 From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> Subject: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00d601c6dabb$9c79df10$31bd5545@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can anyone tell me if there were marriage records kept as early as 1806 in Hardy Co? Rose ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:51:08 EDT From: WPolyniak@aol.com Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c5a.17c1627.323f477c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Go to _www.wvculture.org/vrr_ (http://www.wvculture.org/vrr) to see a lot of Birth, Death, and Marriage listings for Hardy County, West Virginia. It is a wonderful site - and it's FREE!!! Wanda PS: Looking for my ancestry in Hardy County (Nazelrod) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:53:17 EDT From: WPolyniak@aol.com Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3b5.720e272.323f47fd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, Hardy County was part of the state of Virginia, until it became West Virginia in 1863. Wanda PS: I am researching my ancestry of Hardy County (Nazelrod) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:56:14 EDT From: WPolyniak@aol.com Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <483.9061fe2.323f48ae@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I found a John Davis who married Hannah Frye in Hardy County in the early 1800s at _www.wvculture.org/vrr_ (http://www.wvculture.org/vrr) . Wanda ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:15:48 -0700 From: "Roland Elliott" <rolandelliott@inreach.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0f6b01c6dabf$fe20d0d0$653f19d0@xp26b4b56e4af8> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hampshire county ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > Did Hardy county ever reside in VA? Or was it created after the split? I > need to know where to look for records from the early 1800's. > All of the records found in John Davis trunk were from Hardy Co. He > married there also, so I am assuming he was from there as was his wife. > Rose > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:16:00 -0700 From: "Roland Elliott" <rolandelliott@inreach.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0f6c01c6dac0$01f00140$653f19d0@xp26b4b56e4af8> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Augusta County ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > Did Hardy county ever reside in VA? Or was it created after the split? I > need to know where to look for records from the early 1800's. > All of the records found in John Davis trunk were from Hardy Co. He > married there also, so I am assuming he was from there as was his wife. > Rose > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:23:58 EDT From: WPolyniak@aol.com Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c1.42c0da00.323f4f2e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Go to _http://www.wvculture.org/vrr_ (http://www.wvculture.org/vrr) and it will display numerous counties from which you can choose to research. Or you can let the site select ALL of the available counties of West Virginia. Don't be discouraged if you don't get a find. It may mean that the person who retrieve the information from the original document couldn't read the handwriting and may have spelled the surname or first name differently than what you may have. In this case, type some letters with a wildcard in certain positions. For example, I am researching the surname Nazelrod but it has been spelled many, many ways. Therefore, I enter "N*l*r*d" minus the quotation marks and the site will show me ALL of the surnames that fit into the category. Try it! It contains priceless information! Wanda ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:23:35 GMT From: "ffejlny@juno.com" <ffejlny@juno.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20060917.182354.3967.968947@webmail05.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:25:37 -0400 From: "DeVault Genealogy" <devault_genealogy@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c6dac1$596c7060$db24af45@xp2800> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Have you tried http://www.wvculture.org/index.aspx? Click on the "ARCHIVES AND HISTORY" link at the top of the page, then on the next page that opens scroll down the page until you see the header "EXPLORE ARCHIVES AND HISTORY..." and click on the link "BIRTHS, DEATHS, AND MARRIAGES". From the page that opens you can search various Vital Records for some of the West Virginia counties. Marriages for Hardy include: 1792, 1795 - 1796, 1799, 1801 - 1842, 1844 - 1847, 1849 - 1851, 1853 - 1970. This site is a great place to search for WV vital records. I hope you can find what your looking for. John DeVault -----Original Message----- From: wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rosebud4242@peoplepc.com Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:45 PM To: WVHARDY@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? Can anyone tell me if there were marriage records kept as early as 1806 in Hardy Co? Rose ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:52:18 -0600 From: "Shelia Michael" <sheliamichael@tularosa.net> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <014f01c6dac5$13203c50$6501a8c0@SHELIA2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Rose, Hardy County was created from Hampshire County in VA in 1785. West VA became a state in 1863. I don't know if both VA and WV have Hardy County records. Anyone out there have definitive answer? Shelia (Burch, Tharp, Bargerhoff) ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:04:05 -0700 From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00ed01c6dadf$deee28f0$31bd5545@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks Wanda I will keep that name in mind as I look. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: <WPolyniak@aol.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > Yes, Hardy County was part of the state of Virginia, until it became West > Virginia in 1863. > > Wanda > > PS: I am researching my ancestry of Hardy County (Nazelrod) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:08:57 -0700 From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <011401c6dae0$8d3e7d10$31bd5545@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Shelia: This book I have has some Tharps in it.. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelia Michael" <sheliamichael@tularosa.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > Rose, > > Hardy County was created from Hampshire County in VA in 1785. West VA > became a state in 1863. > > I don't know if both VA and WV have Hardy County records. Anyone out > there have definitive answer? > > Shelia > (Burch, Tharp, Bargerhoff) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the WVHARDY list administrator, send an email to WVHARDY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the WVHARDY mailing list, send an email to WVHARDY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:29:15 EDT From: BSS9876543@aol.com Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c5a.17f7e6e.323f88ab@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I believe that the records do not move from their original location. So those now in Hardy, but formerly in Hampshire, are in Hardy now. Barbara ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:29:53 -0700 From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001f01c6dae3$7979e1e0$7cbc5545@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original So..I had a grandfather that was in the war of 1812 from Rockinham VA. Would those records still be in Rockingham? Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karon" <kcks39@yahoo.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 > County records went to WV... > > Rev War military records stayed in VA and did not go to the National > Archives like all of the other states. > > Karon > "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for > the > answer". > ~ William S. Burroughs > > Dyer - Willson - Luckey - Scoville > -----Original Message----- > From: wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of wvhardy-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:06 PM > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > Subject: WVHARDY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) > 2. Marriage books? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) > 3. Re: Marriage books? (WPolyniak@aol.com) > 4. Re: Which state has the records? (WPolyniak@aol.com) > 5. Re: Which state has the records? (WPolyniak@aol.com) > 6. Re: Which state has the records? (Roland Elliott) > 7. Re: Which state has the records? (Roland Elliott) > 8. Re: Which state has the records? (WPolyniak@aol.com) > 9. Re: Which state has the records? (ffejlny@juno.com) > 10. Re: Marriage books? (DeVault Genealogy) > 11. Re: Which state has the records? (Shelia Michael) > 12. Re: Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) > 13. Re: Which state has the records? (rosebud4242@peoplepc.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:41:43 -0700 > From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> > Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00cf01c6dabb$38247250$31bd5545@dell> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Did Hardy county ever reside in VA? Or was it created after the split? I > need to know where to look for records from the early 1800's. > All of the records found in John Davis trunk were from Hardy Co. He > married > there also, so I am assuming he was from there as was his wife. > Rose > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:44:31 -0700 > From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> > Subject: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? > To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00d601c6dabb$9c79df10$31bd5545@dell> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Can anyone tell me if there were marriage records kept as early as 1806 in > Hardy Co? > Rose > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:51:08 EDT > From: WPolyniak@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c5a.17c1627.323f477c@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Go to _www.wvculture.org/vrr_ (http://www.wvculture.org/vrr) to see a lot > of > Birth, Death, and Marriage listings for Hardy County, West Virginia. It is > a > wonderful site - and it's FREE!!! > > Wanda > > PS: Looking for my ancestry in Hardy County (Nazelrod) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:53:17 EDT > From: WPolyniak@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3b5.720e272.323f47fd@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Yes, Hardy County was part of the state of Virginia, until it became West > Virginia in 1863. > > Wanda > > PS: I am researching my ancestry of Hardy County (Nazelrod) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:56:14 EDT > From: WPolyniak@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <483.9061fe2.323f48ae@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I found a John Davis who married Hannah Frye in Hardy County in the early > 1800s at _www.wvculture.org/vrr_ (http://www.wvculture.org/vrr) . > > Wanda > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:15:48 -0700 > From: "Roland Elliott" <rolandelliott@inreach.com> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0f6b01c6dabf$fe20d0d0$653f19d0@xp26b4b56e4af8> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hampshire county > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> > To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:41 PM > Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > > >> Did Hardy county ever reside in VA? Or was it created after the split? I >> need to know where to look for records from the early 1800's. >> All of the records found in John Davis trunk were from Hardy Co. He >> married there also, so I am assuming he was from there as was his wife. >> Rose >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:16:00 -0700 > From: "Roland Elliott" <rolandelliott@inreach.com> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0f6c01c6dac0$01f00140$653f19d0@xp26b4b56e4af8> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Augusta County > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> > To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:41 PM > Subject: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > > >> Did Hardy county ever reside in VA? Or was it created after the split? I >> need to know where to look for records from the early 1800's. >> All of the records found in John Davis trunk were from Hardy Co. He >> married there also, so I am assuming he was from there as was his wife. >> Rose >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:23:58 EDT > From: WPolyniak@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c1.42c0da00.323f4f2e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Go to _http://www.wvculture.org/vrr_ (http://www.wvculture.org/vrr) and > it > will display numerous counties from which you can choose to research. Or > you > can let the site select ALL of the available counties of West Virginia. > Don't > be discouraged if you don't get a find. It may mean that the person who > retrieve the information from the original document couldn't read the > handwriting > and may have spelled the surname or first name differently than what you > may > have. In this case, type some letters with a wildcard in certain > positions. > > For example, I am researching the surname Nazelrod but it has been > spelled > many, many ways. Therefore, I enter "N*l*r*d" minus the quotation marks > and > the > site will show me ALL of the surnames that fit into the category. Try it! > It > contains priceless information! > > Wanda > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:23:35 GMT > From: "ffejlny@juno.com" <ffejlny@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20060917.182354.3967.968947@webmail05.lax.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:25:37 -0400 > From: "DeVault Genealogy" <devault_genealogy@adelphia.net> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001c6dac1$596c7060$db24af45@xp2800> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Have you tried http://www.wvculture.org/index.aspx? Click on the > "ARCHIVES > AND HISTORY" link at the top of the page, then on the next page that opens > scroll down the page until you see the header "EXPLORE ARCHIVES AND > HISTORY..." and click on the link "BIRTHS, DEATHS, AND MARRIAGES". From > the > page that opens you can search various Vital Records for some of the West > Virginia counties. Marriages for Hardy include: 1792, 1795 - 1796, 1799, > 1801 - 1842, 1844 - 1847, 1849 - 1851, 1853 - 1970. > > This site is a great place to search for WV vital records. I hope you can > find what your looking for. > > John DeVault > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvhardy-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of rosebud4242@peoplepc.com > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:45 PM > To: WVHARDY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVHARDY] Marriage books? > > > Can anyone tell me if there were marriage records kept as early as 1806 in > Hardy Co? Rose > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:52:18 -0600 > From: "Shelia Michael" <sheliamichael@tularosa.net> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <014f01c6dac5$13203c50$6501a8c0@SHELIA2> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Rose, > > Hardy County was created from Hampshire County in VA in 1785. West VA > became a state in 1863. > > I don't know if both VA and WV have Hardy County records. Anyone out > there > have definitive answer? > > Shelia > (Burch, Tharp, Bargerhoff) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:04:05 -0700 > From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00ed01c6dadf$deee28f0$31bd5545@dell> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks Wanda I will keep that name in mind as I look. > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WPolyniak@aol.com> > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:53 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > > >> Yes, Hardy County was part of the state of Virginia, until it became >> West >> Virginia in 1863. >> >> Wanda >> >> PS: I am researching my ancestry of Hardy County (Nazelrod) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:08:57 -0700 > From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <011401c6dae0$8d3e7d10$31bd5545@dell> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Shelia: > This book I have has some Tharps in it.. > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shelia Michael" <sheliamichael@tularosa.net> > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 6:52 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Which state has the records? > > >> Rose, >> >> Hardy County was created from Hampshire County in VA in 1785. 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The book may be purchased for $35.00 book 2.10 tax 3.90 shipping ------- $41.00 make check payable to Hardy County Public Library, mail with your address to HARDY COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY 102 North Main Street Moorefield, WV 26836 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I found the book is still for sale cost $35 plus $5 postage and handling. I do not have the address where to order am waiting on an e-mail. Ann -----Original Message----- From: brenick@columbus.rr.com To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] History of Hardy Co. Richard K. McMaster. Where can I buy? Barbara Renick. Randall/Stickley If you are using Adobe Acrobat to read the pdf, near the top of the window, there should be a circle with a minus sign inside, then a block containing 100%, followed by a circle with a plus sign inside. Click on the circle with the plus sign three or four times and you should be able to read the print. I think the book is out of print. I got it at the Morefield library. I have some information on Renicks that I got from my aunt who was a DAR member, and had done some research. My ancestor from Hardy County is George Renick who left Hardy Co. in 1802 with his wife Dorothy Harness to go to Ross County, Ohio. If you have questions, I will try to answer. It is probably best to address them to the list though as others may know more. There is a Renick list also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bardell" <mjbardell@webtv.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Cc: <mjbardell@webtv.net> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: [WVHARDY] History of Hardy Co. Richard K. McMaster. Where can I buy? Barbara Renick. Randall/Stickley >I could not read the PDF as the print was too small. Thank you for the >reference. I am interested in acquiring the book. Do you know how to do >that? > > I think I have Renick ancestors in Hardy Co. Are you interested in > corresponding? > > My g-grandmother was Mary Randall b. 1860, Hardy Co. W.V. Her family > emigrated at the onset of the Civil War to Ohio and later Iowa Her > mother was a Stickley. > > Thank you. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

If you are using Adobe Acrobat to read the pdf, near the top of the window, there should be a circle with a minus sign inside, then a block containing 100%, followed by a circle with a plus sign inside. Click on the circle with the plus sign three or four times and you should be able to read the print. I think the book is out of print. I got it at the Morefield library. I have some information on Renicks that I got from my aunt who was a DAR member, and had done some research. My ancestor from Hardy County is George Renick who left Hardy Co. in 1802 with his wife Dorothy Harness to go to Ross County, Ohio. If you have questions, I will try to answer. It is probably best to address them to the list though as others may know more. There is a Renick list also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bardell" <mjbardell@webtv.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Cc: <mjbardell@webtv.net> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: [WVHARDY] History of Hardy Co. Richard K. McMaster. Where can I buy? Barbara Renick. Randall/Stickley >I could not read the PDF as the print was too small. Thank you for the >reference. I am interested in acquiring the book. Do you know how to do >that? > > I think I have Renick ancestors in Hardy Co. Are you interested in > corresponding? > > My g-grandmother was Mary Randall b. 1860, Hardy Co. W.V. Her family > emigrated at the onset of the Civil War to Ohio and later Iowa Her > mother was a Stickley. > > Thank you. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I could not read the PDF as the print was too small. Thank you for the reference. I am interested in acquiring the book. Do you know how to do that? I think I have Renick ancestors in Hardy Co. Are you interested in corresponding? My g-grandmother was Mary Randall b. 1860, Hardy Co. W.V. Her family emigrated at the onset of the Civil War to Ohio and later Iowa Her mother was a Stickley. Thank you.

Thanks for the positive feedback. I need to go on record right off saying that my ideas change and develop as more information comes to light and I have NOT studied much in depth after 1800 (Colonial days are my interest). So folks are free to question, ctiricize, add to , take from, suggest or whatever. the last line in your post reflects my main point. Best regards, David Armstrong, Elkins, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Shepard" <dshep8505@msn.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for > "financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean > for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in > Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my > family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same > way > as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. > I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families > reason > "Why". > Yours, Don S. > > >>From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net> >>Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >>To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >>Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 >> >>If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more >>work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the >>bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one >>needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land >>grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, >>wherever >>the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for >>settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by >>Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they >>laid >>off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the >>soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed >>alot >>but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming >>from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get >>more >>crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into >>areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I >>have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and >>therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. >>INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have >>been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land >>grants >>(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart >>Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went and >>there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was >>being >>gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the 1770s >>to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius >>Bogard) >>went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster >>having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I >>believe >>(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held >>captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good >>experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail from >>a >>person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for >>less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over again" >>(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my >>experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a >>financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. >>That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical >>events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification >>of >>individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be >>cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. >>Why >>the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine >>family >>history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular >>experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum >>it >>up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. >> >>Best regards, >> >>David Armstrong, >>Elkins, WV >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get today's hot entertainment gossip > http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I to would like to buy the book to find the source of connection of Esther Roberts to David Roberts as her father. I have found her husband Peter Barb executor of Thomas Roberts estate and deeds from Thomas Roberts to Peter Barb and Hadassa/Esther Roberts Barb. No deeds from David Roberts to them. Ann Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: mjbardell@webtv.net To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Cc: mjbardell@webtv.net Sent: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:34 AM Subject: [WVHARDY] History of Hardy Co. Richard K. McMaster. Where can I buy? Barbara Renick. Randall/Stickley I could not read the PDF as the print was too small. Thank you for the reference. I am interested in acquiring the book. Do you know how to do that? I think I have Renick ancestors in Hardy Co. Are you interested in corresponding? My g-grandmother was Mary Randall b. 1860, Hardy Co. W.V. Her family emigrated at the onset of the Civil War to Ohio and later Iowa Her mother was a Stickley. Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

This Mumbert had a relative Annie who married james Davis/Brake about 1819. Any info on her would be welcome. As for Wise, there are two words in German "Weiss" and "Wiess" (at least I think the "ie" is the difference. Since I have Weese relatives that came from Hardy I had a Gemran researcher look into it and he looked at the notes and told me that the above two words are different surnames one being pronounced WEESE and the other WICE ("White"). When he looked at my Hardy County Weese/Wise notes he was under the impression that there were two families there early representing both of hte above. I myself never looked close enough. Best regards, David Armstrong, Elkins, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mouse" <stringbender30@hotmail.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] MIchael > HI, > > I have a ancestor Jacob Wise from the same area in WV who married > Elizabeth > Mumbert. Any connection? Thanks > > Jim > > >>From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <mlgossum@bellsouth.net> >>Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >>To: <pansy.rumsey@verizon.net>, <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: [WVHARDY] MIchael >>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:10:22 -0500 >> >> >>Pansy, I saw your message on the Hardy Co. page regarding Zena Michael and >>wondered if you might know anything about a Rachael Michael born Feb 1849. >>She married Jacob Wise in Hardy Co. 27 Aug 1874. I have not located her in >>1850 or 1860 but in Hardy Co. 1870 she is listed in the home of Henry Wise >>and wife Mary Catherine Swisher as a "domestic servant". Mainly I am >>trying >>to prove that Jacob Wise is the long lost brother of my Mary Ann Wise >>(1823-1893) and was hoping I could find a descendant of Jacob and Rachael >>who might confirm this. Any help appreciated. Mary Louise >> >>Outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for "financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same way as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families reason "Why". Yours, Don S. >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, >wherever >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they laid >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed >alot >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get >more >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land >grants >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went and >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was being >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the 1770s >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius >Bogard) >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I >believe >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail from >a >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over again" >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification of >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. >Why >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine >family >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum >it >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > >Best regards, > >David Armstrong, >Elkins, WV > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip

HI, I have a ancestor Jacob Wise from the same area in WV who married Elizabeth Mumbert. Any connection? Thanks Jim >From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <mlgossum@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <pansy.rumsey@verizon.net>, <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [WVHARDY] MIchael >Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:10:22 -0500 > > >Pansy, I saw your message on the Hardy Co. page regarding Zena Michael and >wondered if you might know anything about a Rachael Michael born Feb 1849. >She married Jacob Wise in Hardy Co. 27 Aug 1874. I have not located her in >1850 or 1860 but in Hardy Co. 1870 she is listed in the home of Henry Wise >and wife Mary Catherine Swisher as a "domestic servant". Mainly I am trying >to prove that Jacob Wise is the long lost brother of my Mary Ann Wise >(1823-1893) and was hoping I could find a descendant of Jacob and Rachael >who might confirm this. Any help appreciated. Mary Louise > >Outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, wherever the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they laid off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed alot but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get more crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land grants (the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went and there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was being gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the 1770s to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius Bogard) went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I believe (although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail from a person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over again" (!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification of individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. Why the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine family history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum it up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. Best regards, David Armstrong, Elkins, WV

The only Rachel Michael I have anything on at this time was the daughter of Solomon and Elizabeth Stingley Michael, born 10 Aug.,1814 in Hardy Co.,married Adam Cosner 10 Oct.,1833 in Hampshire Co.,died 15 Sept.,1870 in Pleasant Hill, Cass Co.,Missouri. She had at least 5 brothers, so your Rachel might be a daughter of one of them. PPat ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Louise Gossum To: pansy.rumsey@verizon.net ; wvhardy@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: MIchael Pansy, I saw your message on the Hardy Co. page regarding Zena Michael and wondered if you might know anything about a Rachael Michael born Feb 1849. She married Jacob Wise in Hardy Co. 27 Aug 1874. I have not located her in 1850 or 1860 but in Hardy Co. 1870 she is listed in the home of Henry Wise and wife Mary Catherine Swisher as a "domestic servant". Mainly I am trying to prove that Jacob Wise is the long lost brother of my Mary Ann Wise (1823-1893) and was hoping I could find a descendant of Jacob and Rachael who might confirm this. Any help appreciated. Mary Louise Outgoing mail checked by Norton AntiVirus

In a message dated 9/30/2006 6:20:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, brenick@columbus.rr.com writes: wish i knew the reason for the migration from hardy and northern/western > virginia to licking co. > It's beautiful country and no one was living there at the time.

does anyone know anything aboout The George Feather FAmily From Haedy county wv? Dub Snelson 1930Sue Dietz wrote: > wanda, am temporarily having trouble locating it. not with last ones i > posted. will search further. thought perhaps had already gone to > someone. unfortunately in this case, we leave tues. for florida and > may not get back to you for awhile. bare with me. s > > >> From: "WANDA BREWER" <slowlyqltn@msn.com> >> Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >> To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WVHARDY] obit of mrs. caroline halterman >> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:08:27 -0500 >> >> Subject: [WVHARDY] obit of mrs. caroline halterman >> - >> obit of mrs caroline v. halterman can go to anyone who claims her for >> postage and envelope cost. >> >> she died feb.28, 1896. from moorefield examiner march 6, 1896. husband's >> name not given nor that of 3 sons surviving. sister was mrs. h.s. grady. >> >> I would also like toget copy of obit. I am related to the Whetsel's, >> wetsel's Would that be possible? >> Wanda Brewer >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more…then map the > best route! http://local.live.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006 >