of note about dunkard churches. women did not wear pants to church until in very recent years. as a member of calvary church of the brethren in winchester, va. even girls did not wear pants. this was true when left the church to join another . church of the brethren do not believe in military service/war. the dunkard name from baptists (german baptist church of 1800s). river baptism was preferred until recent years - say 50s. many churches did not have their own baptismal fonts. was baptised at a church in front royal, va. because our brethren church did not have a font until new church was built in 1970s or thereabouts. church of the brethren (dunkards) also had part time ministers who often stayed for only a term and not indefinitely. ministers had other jobs until in recent years when were employed on full time basis. a good source for info could be found at handley regional library archives written by floyd wine who was part time min. at calvary church of brethren in winchester for a number of years. s >From: "Shirley Pawlowski" <spawlow6@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Dunkards >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:40:17 -0400 > > >I'd be interested also in knowing more about the beliefs of the Dunkards. >Were these organized churches? Does anyone know the names of the Dunkard >churches in Hardy County - probably in the Petersburg area? > >My ancestor, Henry Lowderman (Louderman) was a Dunkard. He left Hardy >County in early 1800s and settled in Fayette County, Ohio. > >Regards, >Shirley > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [WVHARDY] Dunkards >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:51:50 -0700 > >Can someone tell me about his church? What were their beliefs? >Rose > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share your special moments by uploading 500 photos per month to Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features

have seen early records of originally german baptist church 1897 which is today newdale church of brethren in needmore, wv. on parker hollow rd. (formerly kimseys run rd). early on men had to wear facial hair and women long hair which was covered into modern days by an opaque white cap that only covered crown of head. sins were confessed in church before congregation. if a woman was pregnant out of wedlock she had to tell the members who the father was or be excommunicated. folks were kicked out for what we would consider small offenses: making moonshine, writing bad checks, language, etc.. perhaps should say offenses whereby you should really be in church? the love feasts or communion suppers were large events where mutton was prominant in early days and people actually washed each others feet around a table. there were 2 doors at the front of church and women and men entered through each sex' door/men thru men's and women thru women's. does this help? this is info noted when read the church's early record book. s >From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <WVHARDY@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [WVHARDY] Dunkards >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:51:50 -0700 > >Can someone tell me about his church? What were their beliefs? >Rose > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Search—say hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG

rob't whetsel had some good info on migration. s >From: "Robert Whetsel" <whetsel7@msn.com> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:14:14 -0400 > > I will add my 2 cents on this subject. Fertilizer or lack of it was >another reason to search out new ground. After 3-4 years of farming a piece >of ground it was worn out as the people of that period would say . So the >lure of new and fertile ground in distance places was enough for these >people to move in hopes of a better life. Plus land grants > Mine migrates to east Tn. Another reason the farther they could remove >them selves from the governing bodies of the east , The better of they >were. One needs to look at the migration into the Shenandoah valley from >Md. after the whiskey war. These people did not feel the government had a >right to tax their whiskey or any thing else they had worked so hard for. >So they migrated to the hills of VA-WVA-KY in hopes of putting distance >between them and those who wish to tax them. This was probably one of the >reason for the western movements. Just a thought. > My roots run deep into VA-WVA. Wetzel county was named after my line >of Wetzel's. A lot of these people were Palatine German's and because most >were related in some form or the other had a tendency to migrate togather. > >Robert Whetsel >Radford Va. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D. Shepard<mailto:dshep8505@msn.com> > To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > > > Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for > "financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to >lean > for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in > Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my > family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same >way > as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. > I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families >reason > "Why". > Yours, Don S. > > > >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net<mailto:heraldry@meer.net>> > >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com>> > >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > > > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was >more > >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook >the > >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it >one > >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running >land > >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, > >wherever > >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for > >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by > >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they >laid > >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the > >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed > >alot > >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were >coming > >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get > >more > >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into > >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While >I > >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and > >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. > >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply >have > >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land > >grants > >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the >Tygart > >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went >and > >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was >being > >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the >1770s > >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius > >Bogard) > >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial >disaster > >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I > >believe > >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held > >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good > >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail >from > >a > >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it >for > >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over >again" > >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my > >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a > >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. > >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical > >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the >identification of > >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be > >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. > >Why > >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine > >family > >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular > >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can >sum > >it > >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > > > >Best regards, > > > >David Armstrong, > >Elkins, WV > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get today's hot entertainment gossip >http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip<http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself - download free Windows Live Messenger themes! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/themes/vibe/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline

for certain folks stayed together/moved together. s >From: "D. Shepard" <dshep8505@msn.com> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:08:53 -0700 > >Thanks David a great clarification. I am sure some will question for >"financial" reasons that there was such a great migration. I tend to lean >for the "land grant" option. My family, LANDES, were will established in >Hardy but with the population increasing so and the lands shrinking, my >family left to get more land ,stay with the ones they believed the same way >as they did, and able to give something to their future generations. > I am with you, one sentence will not tell each individual families >reason >"Why". > Yours, Don S. > > > >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net> > >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com > >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family > >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > > > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more > >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the > >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one > >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land > >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, > >wherever > >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for > >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by > >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they >laid > >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the > >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed > >alot > >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming > >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get > >more > >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into > >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I > >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and > >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. > >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have > >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land > >grants > >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart > >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went >and > >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was >being > >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the >1770s > >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius > >Bogard) > >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster > >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I > >believe > >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held > >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good > >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail >from > >a > >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for > >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over >again" > >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my > >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a > >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. > >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical > >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification >of > >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be > >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. > >Why > >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine > >family > >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular > >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum > >it > >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > > > >Best regards, > > > >David Armstrong, > >Elkins, WV > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get today's hot entertainment gossip >http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Be seen and heard with Windows Live Messenger and Microsoft LifeCams http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/digitalcommunication/default.mspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline

some good info. s >From: "David Armstrong" <heraldry@meer.net> >Reply-To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com >To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] United Brethren Church & Stover Family >Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:29:24 -0400 > >If one tries to sum up the movement west into a sentence ("there was more >work there") or ("the game was plentiful") it will certainly overlook the >bigger picture which is complicated, convoluted, and to understand it one >needs threads back 200 years earlier. There had been a fast-running land >grab going on for two generations by the time of 1810, in the west, >wherever >the "west" happened to be at that moment. Ohio had been opened up for >settlement in the late 1790s and the Federal Government had it ceded by >Virginia in the complex negotiations after the Revolution. There they laid >off one region as "military lands" to pay off the promises made to the >soldiers in the Continental army. Meanwhile immigration had not slowed >alot >but would shift from time to time as to where the immigrants were coming >from. as in the 1600s and early 1700s the settled regions began to get >more >crowded and the "population center" of the US gradually moved west into >areas (like Ohio) where there was land available for settlement. While I >have not personally studied the move into Ohio (it is after 1800 and >therefor loses my interest) it is little different from earlier ones. >INDIVIDUALS could go for their own varied reasons. They may simply have >been falling in with the moving center of population looking for land >grants >(the word "grant" being key) since in more settled areas (like the Tygart >Valley)the best land had been taken up at least as the best lands went and >there was little but hilly foothills and mountain land left which was being >gobbled up by speculators in spite of the efforts of leftists in the 1770s >to draft legislation to stop that. Some (like my ancestor Cornelius >Bogard) >went to Ohio to get away FROM something (in his case a financial disaster >having to do with holding public office and land speculation), and I >believe >(although controversial) that some were going home. Some who were held >captive as a child in Ohio by the Indians before 1781 or later had good >experiences there and may have just went back. I once read an e-mail from >a >person who said "they would go to Ohio and buy land and then sell it for >less than they paid so they could move to Indiana to do it all over again" >(!!). This I think was finally published in a family history. From my >experience it is not habitual for people to move 300 miles to take a >financial loss with a motive to move another 300 miles to take another. >That is where some folks can get in trouble trying to sum up historical >events in a sentence. Genealogy lends itself well to the identification of >individuals and family connections but the genealogist may want to be >cautious before they publish their interpretation of historical trends. >Why >the forbears may have gone to Ohio is insanely complicated and a fine >family >history can be written if one can place their ancestor's particular >experience in the bigger picture of a developing America. If you can sum >it >up in a sentence it may be best to leave it out. > >Best regards, > >David Armstrong, >Elkins, WV > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Search—say hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG

Waiting to hear from you regarding Harness and Tevebaugh? ----- Original Message ----- From: <JTEVEGEN@aol.com> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Dorothy Harness, George Renick > To brenick and others searching Harnesses: > We all need to commend Barbara Renick for her 10/03/06 reminder that > "slowing down, working things out, and being patient" are essential to > sensible > genealogy. The Moorefield Library Harness genealogy was too unclear and > erroneous > to ever have been offered as "help." [more on that in a minute] I would > like > to add another advisory: that is, offer to others only that for which you > have sound evidence. If you have reason to think other data possibly is > correct, offer it; but explain why it may be only a possibility. > > I say this about any family's data, but especially about the Harness > family. > In the 296 years since the founder of this family arrived in North > America, > NO ONE has yet found totally exact vital statistics for him, his wife, > and > their 13 children! His descendants need valid data, not someone else's > unvalidated chart. We can help each other by making certain we contribute > validated > data. > > Now, Barbara, about that chart. No. 1 never existed, nor a wife named > Elizabeth Jasper; no. 2 and spouse Barbara Devries may have existed but > not in this > family; and no. 3 had an > erroneous surname and 2 erroneous alternates; and among the nos. 4 two > children were left out. There are other lesser errors elsewhere. > > There is but one Harness website of value, and that is the one provided by > Charles Harness. > I can help in part through my studies on the Hardy County website. You may > contact me at _JTEVEGEN@aol.com_ (mailto:JTEVEGEN@aol.com) . Thanks, > John Tevebaugh > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To brenick and others searching Harnesses: We all need to commend Barbara Renick for her 10/03/06 reminder that "slowing down, working things out, and being patient" are essential to sensible genealogy. The Moorefield Library Harness genealogy was too unclear and erroneous to ever have been offered as "help." [more on that in a minute] I would like to add another advisory: that is, offer to others only that for which you have sound evidence. If you have reason to think other data possibly is correct, offer it; but explain why it may be only a possibility. I say this about any family's data, but especially about the Harness family. In the 296 years since the founder of this family arrived in North America, NO ONE has yet found totally exact vital statistics for him, his wife, and their 13 children! His descendants need valid data, not someone else's unvalidated chart. We can help each other by making certain we contribute validated data. Now, Barbara, about that chart. No. 1 never existed, nor a wife named Elizabeth Jasper; no. 2 and spouse Barbara Devries may have existed but not in this family; and no. 3 had an erroneous surname and 2 erroneous alternates; and among the nos. 4 two children were left out. There are other lesser errors elsewhere. There is but one Harness website of value, and that is the one provided by Charles Harness. I can help in part through my studies on the Hardy County website. You may contact me at _JTEVEGEN@aol.com_ (mailto:JTEVEGEN@aol.com) . Thanks, John Tevebaugh

??????????????? ----- Original Message ----- From: <MAILER-DAEMON@server022.dfw.nationwide.net> To: <rolandelliott@inreach.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: failure notice > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at server022.dfw.nationwide.net. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <_jtevegen@aol.com>: > 64.12.137.184 does not like recipient. > Remote host said: 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND > Giving up on 64.12.137.184. > > --- Below this line is a copy of the message. > > Return-Path: <rolandelliott@inreach.com> > Received: (qmail 13997 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2006 01:16:47 -0000 > Received: from unknown (HELO xp26b4b56e4af8) (208.25.55.57) > by server022.dfw.nationwide.net with SMTP; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:16:47 +0000 > Message-ID: <028601c6ee65$42acdb50$a13619d0@xp26b4b56e4af8> > From: "Roland Elliott" <rolandelliott@inreach.com> > To: <_JTEVEGEN@aol.com> > Subject: Mike Harness > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:16:48 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0283_01C6EE2A.95325A20" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0283_01C6EE2A.95325A20 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Dorothy married Hornbeck and that is my connection also collateral = > family do you have Charles addy and where did Harness and Tevebaugh = > marry,why did Michael use AKA"S? > There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue = > it steadily." --George Washington=20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0283_01C6EE2A.95325A20 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Dorothy married = > Hornbeck and=20 > that is my connection also collateral family do you have Charles addy = > and where=20 > did Harness and Tevebaugh marry,why did Michael use = > AKA"S?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> > <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2>There is but = > one straight=20 > course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." --George = > Washington=20 > <BR></FONT></STRONG></DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0283_01C6EE2A.95325A20-- > >

Sorry, Wallie. The "census" I have is just an alphabetical listing of Bean graves that was sent to me by the Archives. There is a number on each entry that looks like it could be the code for specific cemeteries, but they didn't send a list of cemeteries. I had asked for the death record for a specific Bean, which I received. The cemetery census was a "bonus" they sent. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallie Schutter" <schutterw@comcast.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean > Jim, Thanks a lot - will check with the library Monday. Do you know the > cemetery she is buried in? Wallie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Funkhouser" <j.a.funkhouser@worldnet.att.net> > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean > > >>A cemetery census for Athens Co., Ohio, shows that Sarah (b. 1796), wife >>of >> Thomas Bean died in 1867. >> >> Athens Co. began keeping death records that year. While parents are not >> recorded for every decedent, a check of Athens Co. death records would be >> worthwhile, if you haven't done this. These records are in the archives >> at >> >> Vernon R. Alden Library >> Ohio University >> Athens, Ohio, 45701-2978. >> >> The archives staff will check the records and provide photocopies. >> >> Jim Funkhouser >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wallie Schutter" <schutterw@comcast.net> >> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:50 PM >> Subject: [WVHARDY] Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean >> >> >>>I am looking for Sarah Hill's parents. Thomas Bean was Born in Md in >>>1796-his father was Thomas Bean born in 1755. Sarah was born in Md in >>>1796. They married and lived in West Va probably until 1838. According >>>to >>>their bible record and the census they had nine children born in Virginia >>>(Now West Va). The childrens names were Harriet, Elisha, William, Ester, >>>Diana, Joseph, Mary, Samuel and Elizabeth. They moved to Athens Co, Ohio >>>around 1839 or 1840. Wallie >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim, Thanks a lot - will check with the library Monday. Do you know the cemetery she is buried in? Wallie ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Funkhouser" <j.a.funkhouser@worldnet.att.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean >A cemetery census for Athens Co., Ohio, shows that Sarah (b. 1796), wife of > Thomas Bean died in 1867. > > Athens Co. began keeping death records that year. While parents are not > recorded for every decedent, a check of Athens Co. death records would be > worthwhile, if you haven't done this. These records are in the archives > at > > Vernon R. Alden Library > Ohio University > Athens, Ohio, 45701-2978. > > The archives staff will check the records and provide photocopies. > > Jim Funkhouser > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wallie Schutter" <schutterw@comcast.net> > To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:50 PM > Subject: [WVHARDY] Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean > > >>I am looking for Sarah Hill's parents. Thomas Bean was Born in Md in >>1796-his father was Thomas Bean born in 1755. Sarah was born in Md in >>1796. They married and lived in West Va probably until 1838. According >>to >>their bible record and the census they had nine children born in Virginia >>(Now West Va). The childrens names were Harriet, Elisha, William, Ester, >>Diana, Joseph, Mary, Samuel and Elizabeth. They moved to Athens Co, Ohio >>around 1839 or 1840. Wallie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A cemetery census for Athens Co., Ohio, shows that Sarah (b. 1796), wife of Thomas Bean died in 1867. Athens Co. began keeping death records that year. While parents are not recorded for every decedent, a check of Athens Co. death records would be worthwhile, if you haven't done this. These records are in the archives at Vernon R. Alden Library Ohio University Athens, Ohio, 45701-2978. The archives staff will check the records and provide photocopies. Jim Funkhouser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallie Schutter" <schutterw@comcast.net> To: <wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: [WVHARDY] Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean >I am looking for Sarah Hill's parents. Thomas Bean was Born in Md in >1796-his father was Thomas Bean born in 1755. Sarah was born in Md in >1796. They married and lived in West Va probably until 1838. According to >their bible record and the census they had nine children born in Virginia >(Now West Va). The childrens names were Harriet, Elisha, William, Ester, >Diana, Joseph, Mary, Samuel and Elizabeth. They moved to Athens Co, Ohio >around 1839 or 1840. Wallie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: Wallie Schutter To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: Sarah Hill-Thomas Bean I am looking for Sarah Hill's parents. Thomas Bean was Born in Md in 1796-his father was Thomas Bean born in 1755. Sarah was born in Md in 1796. They married and lived in West Va probably until 1838. According to their bible record and the census they had nine children born in Virginia (Now West Va). The childrens names were Harriet, Elisha, William, Ester, Diana, Joseph, Mary, Samuel and Elizabeth. They moved to Athens Co, Ohio around 1839 or 1840. Wallie

I am looking for Sarah Hill's parents. Thomas Bean was Born in Md in 1796-his father was Thomas Bean born in 1755. Sarah was born in Md in 1796. They married and lived in West Va probably until 1838. According to their bible record and the census they had nine children born in Virginia (Now West Va). The childrens names were Harriet, Elisha, William, Ester, Diana, Joseph, Mary, Samuel and Elizabeth. They moved to Athens Co, Ohio around 1839 or 1840. Wallie

I, too, would be very interested in any information you have. The only information I have on Ralph is this: "The first Bean family in St. Mary's County, Maryland, was Ralph Bean and 3 brothers, Walter, John, and Robert. Ralph was a sea captain and boat owner who came from Southward, Surray, England. In addition to 4 brothers named, there was a sister Sarah who remained in England." I am a direct descendent of Ralph's brother Robert. Karen (Bean) Jocius ---- James Funkhouser <j.a.funkhouser@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > I understood that the descent for the 18th-century Beans from 17th-century > Ralph was untraceable because of the lack of records. > > If you have found the documentation for this descent, that is great! I > would appreciate hearing what it is. Thanks. > > Jim Funkhouser > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <robertl931@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Thomas Bean - Sarah Hill > > > They came from St. Mary's county , Maryland and are descendents of Ralph > > Bean who came on the Ark and the Cove in 1634. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I understood that the descent for the 18th-century Beans from 17th-century Ralph was untraceable because of the lack of records. If you have found the documentation for this descent, that is great! I would appreciate hearing what it is. Thanks. Jim Funkhouser ----- Original Message ----- From: <robertl931@aol.com> Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Thomas Bean - Sarah Hill > They came from St. Mary's county , Maryland and are descendents of Ralph > Bean who came on the Ark and the Cove in 1634. > >

Yes that was one of the reasons, good land water and Timber also good. Limestone rock for the making of lime. Robert Whetsel ----- Original Message ----- From: GCline8181@aol.com<mailto:GCline8181@aol.com> To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Greene County TN In a message dated 10/4/2006 3:35:03 PM Central Standard Time, ffejlny@juno.com<mailto:ffejlny@juno.com> writes: Can anyone tell me why families left Hardy Co. for Greene, County TN? Don Young I believe that Greene Co, TN, was also bounty land given to those who had fought in the Revolution. I cannot find any war record for my wife's Hale family who got requested and got their land from NC. Frederick Hale got his land in East Central TN when it was all Greene Co. He ended up in Athens, McMinn Co. Jeff Carr of TX Greene County contained a lot of fertile land when compared with land in Hardy County---that is probably the main reason. Glenn Cline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good come back. ----- Original Message ----- From: WANDA BREWER<mailto:slowlyqltn@msn.com> To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvhardy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: [WVHARDY] Texas Whetsel It is rumored that theWhetsel's that left for Texas was drinking up all the profits from the family business on Bays Mtn. in Kingsport ,TN. It was also said they like to take care of other peoples horses and sell them for their cost incurred in brining them back to good health. (This is of course a family joke) I hope Robert, and I thought you were one of the good ones, We did not sale all the horses, saved the fastest ones to get to Texas. Us, Texas Whetsel's have been trying to find our way into Roberts Whetsel family, but alas have not found our way yet. Jesse went from VA/WVA to Greene Co TN, then into Washington Co. Made our way into IL before coming to Texas. Believe that Jesse died in the Bays Mt area. Wanda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/4/2006 3:35:03 PM Central Standard Time, ffejlny@juno.com writes: Can anyone tell me why families left Hardy Co. for Greene, County TN? Don Young I believe that Greene Co, TN, was also bounty land given to those who had fought in the Revolution. I cannot find any war record for my wife's Hale family who got requested and got their land from NC. Frederick Hale got his land in East Central TN when it was all Greene Co. He ended up in Athens, McMinn Co. Jeff Carr of TX Greene County contained a lot of fertile land when compared with land in Hardy County---that is probably the main reason. Glenn Cline

It is rumored that theWhetsel's that left for Texas was drinking up all the profits from the family business on Bays Mtn. in Kingsport ,TN. It was also said they like to take care of other peoples horses and sell them for their cost incurred in brining them back to good health. (This is of course a family joke) I hope Robert, and I thought you were one of the good ones, We did not sale all the horses, saved the fastest ones to get to Texas. Us, Texas Whetsel's have been trying to find our way into Roberts Whetsel family, but alas have not found our way yet. Jesse went from VA/WVA to Greene Co TN, then into Washington Co. Made our way into IL before coming to Texas. Believe that Jesse died in the Bays Mt area. Wanda

They came from St. Mary's county , Maryland and are descendents of Ralph Bean who came on the Ark and the Cove in 1634. -----Original Message----- From: ffejlny@juno.com To: wvhardy@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10.14PM Subject: Re: [WVHARDY] Thomas Bean - Sarah Hill I have a George Bean and Rebecca Evans (also from MD) Their children, Priscilla and George married into my CARR family. Many of their children also ended up in Delaware Co, OH. Jeff Carr of TX Does anyone have a record of Thomas Bean and Sarah Hill, his wife. They were born in Maryland in late 1700's and moved to Hardy County. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVHARDY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message