Dear Edith, Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I tried a couple times to e-mail you but only had them returned. I must correct myself; Henry Hanson m. Lasa A. Jane Barnal in Hampshire county. NOT Rebecca L.! Henry Hanson and Lasa Jane's son , James married Sara Lish. So sorry for my error. If you don't mind, would you still like to check out some of the records at the courthouse? This should help; Henry Moreland was born 1790-1800 and died 1842 in Hardy county Va.. He married Mary Smith 14 NOV. 1819 in Hardy county Va..who was born 1801 and died____? They had 12 children ; John, dau.?, William, Henry Hanson, dau.?, dau.?, dau.?, Susan, Mary, Harriet, Elizabeth, and Margaret Moreland. From legal documents, this family is in the 1830-50 census in Hardy county Va.. Henry's estate is recorded in W.Va. Estate Settlements by Ross B. Johnston , page139. Their marriage record is in History of Grant and Hardy counties Va., by E. L. Judy. Henry bought 3 items at William Moreland's estate sale in 1821 ( Wil book 3-122-3) Thank you Edith, have a very merry Christmas Sincerely, Jim Moreland

Guy, you might try www.rootsweb.com/~wvhardy/harmarz.htm which lists Hardy County marriages for "Z" names in that time frame. Buzz Brake Tacoma, WA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Marriage I am looking to see about securing a marriage license issued: John Zimmerman Barbara Gochenour 03 March 1786 If not in Hardy Co,, where should I look? Guy W. Zimmerman [email protected]

I am looking to see about securing a marriage license issued: John Zimmerman Barbara Gochenour 03 March 1786 If not in Hardy Co,, where should I look? Guy W. Zimmerman [email protected]

One more thing---you can view Henry's land grant in the digital images section of the Library of Virginia webpage. Just do a search for Library of Virginia and navigate your way through digital images, Land Grants, Northern Neck Grants until you come to the names index. You will need a TIF viewer to look at the grants. Terry Gruber

This is an example of why one should be careful about using older history and genealogical books. Henry Enoch's grant was at the Forks-of-the-Cacapon in present Hampshire County. This is at the junction of the Cacapon and North Rivers. On page 24 of vol. 1 of the Papers of George Washington: Colonial Series, W. W. Abbot, ed., Univ. of Virginia Press, 1983, has a photocopy of the plat and survey notes of Henry Enoch's land. The survey was made on 23 April 1750. The North and Cacapon Rivers are clearly marked on the plat. On his land was the Virginia Regiment fort called Enoch's Fort. See the article "Hampshire County Crisis: April 1756" in Colonial Notes on the Hardy County GenWeb page for a mention of Enoch's fort and Henry Enoch. Henry is mentioned several times in the new series of Washington's papers mentioned above. Terry Gruber Perry Brake wrote: > In Cartmell's "Shenandoah Valley Pioneers and Their Descendants, A History > of Frederick County, Virginia," it mentions Henry as settling on land > surveyed by George Washington along the Shenandoah River. Hampshire County > was part of Frederick at one time. The time of Washington's surveys was > 1749-50. I'll give you the entire quote so you can see who might have lived > in the vicinity of your Henry Enoch...might be helpful somewhere in your > hunt. > > "The following surveys were along the Shenandoah River: Robt. Fox, Edward > Musgrove, George Neavill, adjoining Wm. Vestal who owned the Vestal Iron > Works at base of Blue Ridge; Saml. Knisman, Henry Enoch, John Newton; Henry > Harris's survey near the "Manor Line," "John Vestal, previously seated on > Patent." > > That's it! > > Buzz Brake > Tacoma, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: kenneth w colby [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 3:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Enoch Family > > Hi List > > Merry Christmass and Happy New Year to each and everyone . > > I am researching for my 5th great--grandparents Henry Enoch and and wife > Sarah > pre-revolution and Hampshire County died ? > Any help on this line would be most thankful. > Ken > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Why pay more to get Web access? > Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! > Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

In Cartmell's "Shenandoah Valley Pioneers and Their Descendants, A History of Frederick County, Virginia," it mentions Henry as settling on land surveyed by George Washington along the Shenandoah River. Hampshire County was part of Frederick at one time. The time of Washington's surveys was 1749-50. I'll give you the entire quote so you can see who might have lived in the vicinity of your Henry Enoch...might be helpful somewhere in your hunt. "The following surveys were along the Shenandoah River: Robt. Fox, Edward Musgrove, George Neavill, adjoining Wm. Vestal who owned the Vestal Iron Works at base of Blue Ridge; Saml. Knisman, Henry Enoch, John Newton; Henry Harris's survey near the "Manor Line," "John Vestal, previously seated on Patent." That's it! Buzz Brake Tacoma, WA -----Original Message----- From: kenneth w colby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 3:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Enoch Family Hi List Merry Christmass and Happy New Year to each and everyone . I am researching for my 5th great--grandparents Henry Enoch and and wife Sarah pre-revolution and Hampshire County died ? Any help on this line would be most thankful. Ken ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I am searching for infomation on Isaac DeVault (spelled Devalt in the 1850 census of the 23rd District of Hardy County, Virginia) and his family. The following information is from the 1850 census: Isaac Devalt 47 M Farmer Phobe 44 F (or it could be Phebe) John H. 16 M Farmer ( or the middle initial could be an R.) Mary L. 13 F Anna M 11 F Daniel 5 M Jordon 5 M Edy P. 2 F I believe Daniel to be my Great-Great-Grandfather. If this is the same Daniel as my Great-Great-Grandfather, he would have eventally moved to Allegany County, MD. He may have lived in Hampshire Co. WV before moving to MD. Also he would have served in the Union Army during the Civil War, and would have been present at the Battle of Gettsyburg. I also believe that Issac is the same person who is listed in the 1830 Census index in Monongalia Co., Virginia; and that he may have been born in Washington Co., Virginia. Any help is appreciated, and I will be glad to share information. John DeVault mailto:[email protected]

Hi List Merry Christmass and Happy New Year to each and everyone . I am researching for my 5th great--grandparents Henry Enoch and and wife Sarah pre-revolution and Hampshire County died ? Any help on this line would be most thankful. Ken ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Hi, Paula. According to Patty Myers' The Hughes Family from Virginia to Oregon," 1999, Burke Publishing Company, San Antonia, TX, Sarah was born in Dover, Morris County, NJ, in 1765. She died in Harrison County, W(VA) on July 1, 1842 and is buried in the Seventh Day Baptist Cemetery near Salem (Johathan is buried in the Eddy Cemetery near Miletus, Doddridge County). She was the daughter of Edward Jackson and Martha Miller. There are three or four pages on Jonathan's family in Patty's book. I am the compiling editor of the Hacker's Creek Journal, quarterly publication of the Hacker's Creek Pioneer Descendants. Patty sent me a copy of her book to review and publish a book report in the Journal. If you are interested in contacting her about this indexed, hard-bound, 300+ page book, you can write to her at 15 Campden Circle, San Antonia, TX 78218-6054. She has e-mail, but I can't find her address right now. The book is $29. Hope this helps. Perry "Buzz" Brake Tacoma, WA From: Paula J Mellor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Surnames: HUGHES & JACKSON Hello list, Hoping for a little help here if at all possible from anyone. I am looking for any information on this family line. My G G G G grandparents were: HUGHES, Jonathan born : 25 March 1753 Hampshire Co. VA married 1st to Vercetta ? ( 1 child Mary born about 1773) Married 2nd time: 1786 in NC to Sarah Abigail JACKSON >>> WHO ARE Sarah (or Abigail's) PARENTS Anyone have her parents or siblings? JACKSON, Sarah Abigail born: Abt. 1765 in NJ Marriage Bond for Sarah Abigail and Jonathan BONDSMAN was EDWARD JACKSON HOW WAS HE RELATED to SARAH ABIGAIL? Edward Jackson's will names daughter as Sarah FLESHER not Sarah HUGHES PAGE 362 WILL BOOK 1 HARRISON CO. WV In A will of JOSEPH JACKSON 'S 22 SEPT. 1816 it says daughter ABIGAIL (SURRY CO. NC WILL ABSTRACTS by Linn) Jonathan and Sarah Abigail were in the Harrison and Hardy and Greenbrier Counties in WV and also in the Gallia OH area. Any help on this line would be greatly appreciated. I believe Jonathan and Sarah Abigail's children to be: Mary, Nancy, Anderson, Rebecca, Dudley, Rachel, Elizabeth, MARTIN (my GGG grandfather who married Ann DAVIS (My GG grandfather STEVEN who married Sobrinia DAVIS ( my G grandmother Molana Alnora (known as Allie who married David Thomas GADD(my grandmother Lura Helen GADD who married Perry Daniel WILLIAMS s/o James Hanson (also known as J. H. and John) and Susan McCLOUD WILLIAMS. Hope someone can help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Paula

Yep---sometimes I get things mixed up---the time period I look at Hampshire was Frederick, so sometimes I think of Hampshire as Frederick---West Virginia as Virginia, etc. Can cause problems if you don't pause and think sometimes. Dealing with many primary documents also messes up your spelling and punctuation as well!!! It was a very slim sliver of a piece of land that was cut out of Augusta, not much in total area. I am glad someone set it straight. TG Roland Elliott wrote: > Bless you my child,I just knew Augusta had to be before Hampshire and > include it.or all my Ancestors were tippling.R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sara Patton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 13 27 > Subject: Re: HARDY CO... > > > Actually Hampshire (the southern portion) was part Augusta County at one > > point. Augusta Co and Frederick Co were formed from Orange Co in 1738. > > Hampshire Co was formed from portions of both Augusta Co and western > > Frederick Co in 1753. Hardy Co was formed from the southern portion of > > Hampshire Co in 1786. > > > > From: Martha W. Hiden, How Justice Grew, Virginia Counties: An Abstract > of > > Their Formation. > > > > > > Sara Patton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Terry Gruber" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:02 PM > > Subject: Re: HARDY CO... > > > > > > > Hampshire and Auguata Counties were never the same---they were both > formed > > in > > > the same year (1738 I think), but it was a few years before the County > > Courts > > > were organized. Frederick County Court began to function in about 1742. > > > > > > Augusta was never "broken" from the Northern Neck Grant because it was > > never a > > > part of the grant. > > > > > > Terry Gruber > > > > > > Roland Elliott wrote: > > > > > > > When was Hampshire Augusta ,or was it? And when was Augusta broken > from > > Lord > > > > Fairfax's grant.R > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8 48 > > > > Subject: HARDY CO... > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/03/1999 8:58:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > > > << Two questions, please? > > > > > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change > > about > > > > the > > > > > mid 1860's? > > > > > > > > > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address > listed > > on > > > > the > > > > > 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > Jean French >> > > > > > > > > > > As you mention, <and per the Map Guide by Dollarhide> all of Hardy > Co. > > was > > > > in > > > > > VA until 1863, when WV became a state as a result of the Civil War.. > > > > > > > > > > Hardy Co. was created from Hampshire Co. in 1785 and all area being > in > > > > > Virginia. From then and until 1866, Hardy included Grant & the > Hardy > > > > Co.we > > > > > know today. In 1866, Grant Co. WV became a county of it's own.. > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Bless you my child,I just knew Augusta had to be before Hampshire and include it.or all my Ancestors were tippling.R ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Patton <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 13 27 Subject: Re: HARDY CO... > Actually Hampshire (the southern portion) was part Augusta County at one > point. Augusta Co and Frederick Co were formed from Orange Co in 1738. > Hampshire Co was formed from portions of both Augusta Co and western > Frederick Co in 1753. Hardy Co was formed from the southern portion of > Hampshire Co in 1786. > > From: Martha W. Hiden, How Justice Grew, Virginia Counties: An Abstract of > Their Formation. > > > Sara Patton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Gruber" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: HARDY CO... > > > > Hampshire and Auguata Counties were never the same---they were both formed > in > > the same year (1738 I think), but it was a few years before the County > Courts > > were organized. Frederick County Court began to function in about 1742. > > > > Augusta was never "broken" from the Northern Neck Grant because it was > never a > > part of the grant. > > > > Terry Gruber > > > > Roland Elliott wrote: > > > > > When was Hampshire Augusta ,or was it? And when was Augusta broken from > Lord > > > Fairfax's grant.R > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8 48 > > > Subject: HARDY CO... > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/03/1999 8:58:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > << Two questions, please? > > > > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change > about > > > the > > > > mid 1860's? > > > > > > > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed > on > > > the > > > > 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Jean French >> > > > > > > > > As you mention, <and per the Map Guide by Dollarhide> all of Hardy Co. > was > > > in > > > > VA until 1863, when WV became a state as a result of the Civil War.. > > > > > > > > Hardy Co. was created from Hampshire Co. in 1785 and all area being in > > > > Virginia. From then and until 1866, Hardy included Grant & the Hardy > > > Co.we > > > > know today. In 1866, Grant Co. WV became a county of it's own.. > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Actually Hampshire (the southern portion) was part Augusta County at one point. Augusta Co and Frederick Co were formed from Orange Co in 1738. Hampshire Co was formed from portions of both Augusta Co and western Frederick Co in 1753. Hardy Co was formed from the southern portion of Hampshire Co in 1786. From: Martha W. Hiden, How Justice Grew, Virginia Counties: An Abstract of Their Formation. Sara Patton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Gruber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:02 PM Subject: Re: HARDY CO... > Hampshire and Auguata Counties were never the same---they were both formed in > the same year (1738 I think), but it was a few years before the County Courts > were organized. Frederick County Court began to function in about 1742. > > Augusta was never "broken" from the Northern Neck Grant because it was never a > part of the grant. > > Terry Gruber > > Roland Elliott wrote: > > > When was Hampshire Augusta ,or was it? And when was Augusta broken from Lord > > Fairfax's grant.R > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8 48 > > Subject: HARDY CO... > > > > > In a message dated 12/03/1999 8:58:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > << Two questions, please? > > > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about > > the > > > mid 1860's? > > > > > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on > > the > > > 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > > > > > Thank you > > > Jean French >> > > > > > > As you mention, <and per the Map Guide by Dollarhide> all of Hardy Co. was > > in > > > VA until 1863, when WV became a state as a result of the Civil War.. > > > > > > Hardy Co. was created from Hampshire Co. in 1785 and all area being in > > > Virginia. From then and until 1866, Hardy included Grant & the Hardy > > Co.we > > > know today. In 1866, Grant Co. WV became a county of it's own.. > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >

Hampshire and Auguata Counties were never the same---they were both formed in the same year (1738 I think), but it was a few years before the County Courts were organized. Frederick County Court began to function in about 1742. Augusta was never "broken" from the Northern Neck Grant because it was never a part of the grant. Terry Gruber Roland Elliott wrote: > When was Hampshire Augusta ,or was it? And when was Augusta broken from Lord > Fairfax's grant.R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8 48 > Subject: HARDY CO... > > > In a message dated 12/03/1999 8:58:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > << Two questions, please? > > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about > the > > mid 1860's? > > > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on > the > > 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > > > Thank you > > Jean French >> > > > > As you mention, <and per the Map Guide by Dollarhide> all of Hardy Co. was > in > > VA until 1863, when WV became a state as a result of the Civil War.. > > > > Hardy Co. was created from Hampshire Co. in 1785 and all area being in > > Virginia. From then and until 1866, Hardy included Grant & the Hardy > Co.we > > know today. In 1866, Grant Co. WV became a county of it's own.. > > > > [email protected] > > > >

Hello--- To many of us around here, Moorefield and the region is still "Virginia", however in 1863 the western portion of Virginia was unconstitutionally cut away from the rest of the state and named West Virginia, although there is strong evidence that most of the inhabitants preferred to continue as Virginia (contrary to the official story). Anyway---not familiar with "Keep House" and can only conjecture that perhaps it is a referral to the Inskeep family home? By the way, there are no townships south of the Mason/Dixon---it is properly called Moorefield District. The smallest form of local government in the south is the county, while in the north and west it's the township. Terry Gruber Jean French wrote: > Two questions, please? > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about the mid 1860's? > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on the 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > Thank you > Jean French

When was Hampshire Augusta ,or was it? And when was Augusta broken from Lord Fairfax's grant.R ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8 48 Subject: HARDY CO... > In a message dated 12/03/1999 8:58:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Two questions, please? > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about the > mid 1860's? > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on the > 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > Thank you > Jean French >> > > As you mention, <and per the Map Guide by Dollarhide> all of Hardy Co. was in > VA until 1863, when WV became a state as a result of the Civil War.. > > Hardy Co. was created from Hampshire Co. in 1785 and all area being in > Virginia. From then and until 1866, Hardy included Grant & the Hardy Co.we > know today. In 1866, Grant Co. WV became a county of it's own.. > > [email protected] > >

Jean French wrote: > > Two questions, please? > Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about the mid 1860's? > > Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on the 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. > > Thank you > Jean French Hi Jean, West Virginia was originally part of Virginia until it became a state in 1863. Moorefield is in West Virginia so yes it would have been Moorefield, Virginia prior to West Virginia becoming a state in 1863. Cathy S. Phillips

Two questions, please? Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about the mid 1860's? Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on the 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. Thank you Jean French

In a message dated 12/03/1999 8:58:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Two questions, please? Was Moorefield in VA before it was in WV? Did the border change about the mid 1860's? Also, does anyone know anything about "Keep House" an address listed on the 1870 Census for Hardy County, Moorefield township. Thank you Jean French >> As you mention, <and per the Map Guide by Dollarhide> all of Hardy Co. was in VA until 1863, when WV became a state as a result of the Civil War.. Hardy Co. was created from Hampshire Co. in 1785 and all area being in Virginia. From then and until 1866, Hardy included Grant & the Hardy Co.we know today. In 1866, Grant Co. WV became a county of it's own.. [email protected]

Buzz, Thanks!! and Barbara, thanks too for bringing this up. I have made additions and changes to the Hardy County genealogy webpage to reflect this information. > Barbara, the County Clerk, whose office is in the County Court > House, is at 204 Washington, Moorefield, WV 26836 and their phone > number, in case you want to call, is (304) 538-6139. I don't know > which office in the Court House handles wills/probate, but it should > get to them at that address. Margaret [email protected] Barbour County Genealogy Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvbarbou Hardy County Genealogy Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhardy

Technically, one of the sources for the Shennandoah is located in Southeast Hardy County. Some books list it as being part of the Valley and many Civil War era maps list at least the Lost River Valley as a "region". Just like in old England, you contact the Sheriff regarding Land Taxes and Records. Another comment might be to check the surname "Lee". In many cases it is actually "See" - the confusion comes about when you look at original Census records written in cursive where "S" looks like "L". Regarding Edith Chaney's response, the name "Frederick See" is common in Hardy County - I cannot comment on Lee. Thanks, Mark -----Original Message----- From: James Moreland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: MORELAND I am Edith Chaney ----have been researching the Lee family a long time. I would like to ask about Rebecca Jane Lee who married Henry Hanson Moreland. Can you tell anything at all about Rebecca? Do you know where she was born----parents, where she married Henry, their children, where she and Henry lived and where they died. Any information at all would be helpful and provide a clue for me to trace them in the census and county records. I have a record of James Moreland who married Sarah Lish. Sarah was the daughter of Rebecca Lee and Jeremiah Lish. Rebecca was the daughter of Frederick Lee and Sarah Irons. Sarah Irons Lee was my Rebecca Irons Lee's sister---the IRONS sisters married LEE brothers. James Moreland was born 1854 in Hampshire Co Va----now is West Va.and he died in Garrett Co Maryland 1934. Could this James Moreland be one of yours? Also Eliza J F Lee married Arthur Moreland in 1897 Grant Co WV I would like to know more about your Moreland family if you have time to send it to me. Hope that I have helped you a wee bit with your searach. The Grant Co courthouse is in Petersburg WV. I went there in July and plan to go back there ---if there is anything you would like me to look for in Petersburg,just let me know. I wish you a Happy and Safe Thanksgiving.--- Edith Chaney----- Frederick County, Maryland. HELLO! First timer for this list, hope some cousins still exist... Any info on Henry Moreland married Mary Smith , son Henry Hanson Moreland born 1826 married Rebecca Jane Lee abt. 1850 . Henry Hanson abandoned his home during the Civil War and moved west to Grant and Hampshire counties. I am really currious about the land they once owned, my Grandfather Ernest Moreland , after graduating college in Buckhannon in 1907-8 , rode back to the home place to try an reclaim the property for his Grandfather. The Sherrif told him the land had been abandoned too long and a new owner had claimed said property. Who should I contact for said land records? And is Hardy county known as part of the Shenondoah Valley? Thanks you! May we all have a thankful Thanksgiving! Sincerely, Jim Moreland Ohio