Hello, Even though it is the second time I agree on the break. I have made sending errors too. I have seen his his input into this forum and it has been good. Bill

In a message dated 4/11/2000 10:19:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I hope you will be removed from this list permanently as you violate its purpose and I resent your using it to intrude into my life with your political views. >> If you read the email sent immeditatly after the original, you'll see that it was a mistake. I"VE done internet mistakes before. After hitting SEND, you can't hit UNSEND if it goes out on the web. It was a mistake. He apologized. Give the man a BREAK. If I delt this harshly to my children for the MISTAKES they made, they would have stayed in their rooms until they were 36.

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I hope you will be removed from this list permanently as you violate its purpose and I resent your using it to intrude into my life with your political views. Roland Elliott wrote: > You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of funding. You have > to be against capital punishment,but for abortion on demand......In > short,you support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent. You have > to believe that the same overpaid public school instructor,who can't teach > 4th graders how to read ,is qualified to teach those same kids about sex. > You have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes-and doctors are > overpaid. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding > Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons,and > presidential-supplied national security information,in the hands of the Red > Chinese. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by > cyclical,documented changes in the brilliance of the Sun ,and more affected > by yuppies driving SUV's. You have to believe that traditional gender roles > are artificial and archaic,but being "gay" is natural. You have to believe > that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. You > have to believe that hunters don't care about nature,but activists who have > never been outside Seattle do. You have to believe that self-esteem is more > important than actually doing something to earn it. You have to believe > there was not art before Federal funding. You gave to believe that the > military,not corrupt politicians,start wars. You have to believe the free > market that gives us 500+channels can't deliver the quality that PBS,does. > You have to believe the NRA is bad,because it stands up for certain parts of > the Constitution,while the ACLU is goo, because it stands up for certain > parts of the Constitution. You have to believe that taxes are too low but > ATM fees are too high.You have to believe that Harriet Tubman,Caesar > Chaves,Gloria Steinmen and Dr.[the Cuban Communist]Spock area more important > to American History than Thomas Jefferson,General Robert E.Lee,Thomas > Edison,Dr.Salk et. .You have to believe that standardized test are "racist" > but racial quotas and set-asides are not.Your have to believe that > second-hand smoke is more dangerous than the HIV virus.You have to believe > that conservatives are racist,and also believe the black people couldn't > make it without your help.You have to believe that a pilot with his wife and > sister in law on board flying east at sunset[darkness gaining at 6-9 miles > per hour] who does not file a flight plan,contact radar,is not IFR > qualified,flying across water needs a eulogy.You have to believe a UC > student,whose dies by aspirating his own vomitus due to ingesting cocaine > and 21 shots on his birthday of alcohol-7x times legal- should also be > eulogized.You have to believe your marriage vows,the Bill of Rights the > constitution the Ten Commandments are living instruments.I had to do it.R

There are a lot of places to drag your portable podium, but not here. Your personal views are yours and regardless of agreeing or not they don't belong here. William Easton-Mace

Sorry about that ,you were not my intended.R ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 19 46 PM Subject: Re: Prerequisites for being a Modern Extreme Liberal > > > There are a lot of places to drag your portable podium, but not here. Your > personal views are yours and regardless of agreeing or not they don't belong > here. > > William Easton-Mace > >

You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of funding. You have to be against capital punishment,but for abortion on demand......In short,you support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent. You have to believe that the same overpaid public school instructor,who can't teach 4th graders how to read ,is qualified to teach those same kids about sex. You have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes-and doctors are overpaid. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons,and presidential-supplied national security information,in the hands of the Red Chinese. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical,documented changes in the brilliance of the Sun ,and more affected by yuppies driving SUV's. You have to believe that traditional gender roles are artificial and archaic,but being "gay" is natural. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature,but activists who have never been outside Seattle do. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it. You have to believe there was not art before Federal funding. You gave to believe that the military,not corrupt politicians,start wars. You have to believe the free market that gives us 500+channels can't deliver the quality that PBS,does. You have to believe the NRA is bad,because it stands up for certain parts of the Constitution,while the ACLU is goo, because it stands up for certain parts of the Constitution. You have to believe that taxes are too low but ATM fees are too high.You have to believe that Harriet Tubman,Caesar Chaves,Gloria Steinmen and Dr.[the Cuban Communist]Spock area more important to American History than Thomas Jefferson,General Robert E.Lee,Thomas Edison,Dr.Salk et. .You have to believe that standardized test are "racist" but racial quotas and set-asides are not.Your have to believe that second-hand smoke is more dangerous than the HIV virus.You have to believe that conservatives are racist,and also believe the black people couldn't make it without your help.You have to believe that a pilot with his wife and sister in law on board flying east at sunset[darkness gaining at 6-9 miles per hour] who does not file a flight plan,contact radar,is not IFR qualified,flying across water needs a eulogy.You have to believe a UC student,whose dies by aspirating his own vomitus due to ingesting cocaine and 21 shots on his birthday of alcohol-7x times legal- should also be eulogized.You have to believe your marriage vows,the Bill of Rights the constitution the Ten Commandments are living instruments.I had to do it.R

Thank you for posting this graphic reminder, Roland. Sometimes we forget just how fortunate we are... Buzz Brake Tacoma, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Roland Elliott <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: Fw: 55 Aniversary of USMC Memorial > God Bless them all.R > > [Introduction by Iwo Jima veteran Major General Fred Haynes, U.S. Marine > Corps (Retired).] > > General Haynes: "John Bradley is the second man from the right, the > Pharmacist Mate, the only Navy man in this magnificent statue which > represents everything that all of us here, our children, our grandchildren > stand for. We have with us today his fourth child, third son, James > Bradley, who will talk to us a little about what this represents. I present > James Bradley." > > Bradley rises from his seat and strides across the wet grass to the podium. > Silently he turns away to gaze at his father's enormous bronze likeness. He > turns back to the audience and begins.) > > "So there's my dad in the tallest bronze monument in the world, but that's > about all we knew growing up. He wouldn't talk about Iwo Jima; he would > always change the subject. After he died, I phoned my mother and asked her > to tell me everything that dad ever told her about Iwo Jima. She said, > 'That won't take long, because he only talked about it once -on our first > date. For seven or eight disinterested minutes and then never again in a 47 > year marriage did he say the words, Iwo Jima'." > > "After his funeral, we were in for some surprises. My brothers and my > mother were searching for his will in his office. They opened a closet > door. In that closet were two large brown boxes. We were surprised that in > those boxes he had secretly saved memories of 50 years of being a > flagraiser. Then the next day we were in for another surprise. My father's > Captain on Iwo Jima phoned my mother and asked her if she knew that my > father had been awarded the Navy Cross for valor two days before the flag > raising. She said no. My father had kept his heroism a secret from his > wife, from his family, and his community for half a century." > > "I burned with curiosity and went on a quest. I phoned mayor's offices and > sheriff's departments all across the country, looking for the relatives of > these six guys. I interviewed hundreds of you Iwo Jima veterans and I > learned a lot." > > "I learned how young you were. My dad is not the guy putting the pole in > the ground; he's the next guy up. But behind him, obscured by him, on the > other side, is Rene Gagnon. Rene Gagnon, at that moment, had a photo of his > girlfriend in his helmet. He needed the protection because he was scared. > He was 17 years old." > > "Ira Hayes, the last man on the statue whose hands cannot reach the pole. > Proud of being with you Marines, he wrote home from the boat taking him to > Iwo Jima: 'These boys I'm with are all good men. I would not take 1000 > dollars to be separated from them'." > > "I learned how eager you boys were to serve. Harlon Block, at the base of > that pole, enlisted in the United States Marine Corps with all of the senior > members of his high school football team." > > "I learned how determined you were on Iwo Jima. My dad wrote a letter home > three days after the flag raising. He wrote, 'I didn't know I could go > without food, without water, or sleep for three days, but now I know it can > be done'." > > "I learned about leaders. Ira Hayes is the last guy up there. The next guy > you're looking at is Franklin Sousley. Behind Franklin, obscured by > Franklin, is my hero - Mike Strank. Where is Mike's right hand? Mike's > right hand is not on the pole. Mike is behind his boys. He's the Sergeant. > He's the Marine leader and his right hand is gripping the right arm of > Franklin Sousley, a young boy. Mike is helping Franklin lift a heavy pole; > a Marine leader caring for his boys. Three weeks before Iwo Jima, his > Captain said that he wanted to promote Mike Strank. Mike turned it down on > the spot saying, 'I promised my boys I'd be there with them'." > > "And I learned about the heartbreak that you went through. Franklin > Sousley, the second figure in. Franklin was fatherless at the age of nine. > He was dead on Iwo Jima at the age of nineteen. His aunt told me that when > the telegram arrived at the General Store in Hilltop, Kentucky a young, > barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The story is that > the neighbors could hear his mother scream all night and into the morning. > The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away." > > "I learned about the challenges that you faced. You did the impossible. > You fought an underground, unseen enemy. I learned that the Air Force > bombed Iwo Jima more than any spot in the Pacific and only rearranged the > sand. I learned that the Navy lobbed shells the size of Volkswagens - with > the power to re-sculpture Mount Suribachi - and didn't kill anybody." > > "It took you guys to win a battle that historians describe as 'American > flesh against Japanese concrete'." > > "I have been to Iwo Jima. It's five miles long. If you're in a car going > 60 miles an hour, it takes you 5 minutes to conquer it. It took you > -slogging, fighting, dying - 36 days." > > "I learned that my father's company, named "Easy" Company, had 84 percent > casualties. Sixteen percent of my dad's buddies made it off unharmed." > > "Bob Schmidt told me that when they buried the dead on Saipan, they buried > by individual grave. When they buried on Iwo Jima they buried by row - rows > of a hundred boys. He told me that they needed surveyors to mark the > lines." > > "Corpsman Hoopes instructed me, 'You tell your readers that my uniform was > caked with blood and it cracked. And it was not my blood'." > > "I learned about the buddyhood and bravery that won the battle of Iwo Jima. > Jack Lucas, here in the front row, jumped on the beach without a rifle. And > the reason he didn't have a rifle is because he wasn't supposed to be there. > He stowed away to go fight the battle of Iwo Jima. And a couple days later > jumped on two grenades to save his buddies. > > "Nurse Norma Crotty is in the audience and I interviewed her. She was an > "Angel in the Air," flying down to evacuate the grievously wounded. She > evacuated Navy personnel, Army personnel - all over the Pacific. She was a > nurse for 50 years caring to civilians and military. "I asked, 'Nurse > Norma, was there anything different about those Iwo > Jima Marines?' And she said, 'Yes, I'll never forget them. It was their > spirit. I evacuated boys from other battles that were beaten, but those > Marines had Esprit de Corps. Those boys were burned. They were bruised. > But I never saw a Marine who was beaten'." > > "I think it's time we Americans put this battle into perspective. This is > not just a big battle of the Pacific, or an important battle of World War > II. This is unique. This is above and beyond. This is 'America's > Battle'." > > "America's Battle, what else can you call a battle that in one day had more > casualties than two and a half months at Guadalcanal? Normandy was > terrible, but at the end of one day, at the end of 24 hours, you and I could > have had a tea party on the beaches of Normandy. It was completely safe. > Boys died on the beaches of Iwo Jima - on the beaches - for two weeks. > > "America's Battle. What else can you call the only battle that when > Franklin Delano Roosevelt saw the casualties he gasped, and he cried?" > > "TIME Magazine, March 5th, 1945, wrote, 'no battle of World War II - not > even Normandy - was watched with as much interest as the battle of Iwo > Jima'." > > America's Battle . . . > > (Bradley gazes at the Iwo Jima veterans in the audience and beckons to > them...) > > "Hey guys listen up! George Washington. Thomas Edison. Hank Aaron. You > Marines and Corpsmen who won America's Battle. I would like to salute you > guys, but I know how difficult that is because you are as humble as you are > brave. Jessie Boatright said to me, 'You know Bradley, you think we did > something special out there in the Pacific, but we were just ordinary guys. > Ordinary guys just doing our duty'." > > "Yes, well, I'm more in synch with the words of Tex Stanton. I often call > Tex Stanton when I need advice with my writing. And he always picks up on > the first ring. He doesn't leave his chair very often. Because Mr. Stanton > has no legs. He left those on Iwo Jima 55 years ago. Mr. Stanton said to > me, 'You know Bradley, heroism on that island was a funny thing. You had to > be observed, and you had to be written up, and if you got a medal your > citation said that you did something "above and beyond". Well Bradley,' he > said, 'I saw a lot of heroes on Iwo Jima and the way I figure it, if you got > through one day on that island you were doing something "above and beyond" > just to survive'." > > "I would like to salute you guys. You guys who won America's Battle. You > ordinary guys. You heroes of Iwo Jima." > > [After a silent pause Bradley turns to gaze at the six bronze figures for a > moment and then walks across the wet grass to his seat.] > > >

God Bless them all.R [Introduction by Iwo Jima veteran Major General Fred Haynes, U.S. Marine Corps (Retired).] General Haynes: "John Bradley is the second man from the right, the Pharmacist Mate, the only Navy man in this magnificent statue which represents everything that all of us here, our children, our grandchildren stand for. We have with us today his fourth child, third son, James Bradley, who will talk to us a little about what this represents. I present James Bradley." Bradley rises from his seat and strides across the wet grass to the podium. Silently he turns away to gaze at his father's enormous bronze likeness. He turns back to the audience and begins.) "So there's my dad in the tallest bronze monument in the world, but that's about all we knew growing up. He wouldn't talk about Iwo Jima; he would always change the subject. After he died, I phoned my mother and asked her to tell me everything that dad ever told her about Iwo Jima. She said, 'That won't take long, because he only talked about it once -on our first date. For seven or eight disinterested minutes and then never again in a 47 year marriage did he say the words, Iwo Jima'." "After his funeral, we were in for some surprises. My brothers and my mother were searching for his will in his office. They opened a closet door. In that closet were two large brown boxes. We were surprised that in those boxes he had secretly saved memories of 50 years of being a flagraiser. Then the next day we were in for another surprise. My father's Captain on Iwo Jima phoned my mother and asked her if she knew that my father had been awarded the Navy Cross for valor two days before the flag raising. She said no. My father had kept his heroism a secret from his wife, from his family, and his community for half a century." "I burned with curiosity and went on a quest. I phoned mayor's offices and sheriff's departments all across the country, looking for the relatives of these six guys. I interviewed hundreds of you Iwo Jima veterans and I learned a lot." "I learned how young you were. My dad is not the guy putting the pole in the ground; he's the next guy up. But behind him, obscured by him, on the other side, is Rene Gagnon. Rene Gagnon, at that moment, had a photo of his girlfriend in his helmet. He needed the protection because he was scared. He was 17 years old." "Ira Hayes, the last man on the statue whose hands cannot reach the pole. Proud of being with you Marines, he wrote home from the boat taking him to Iwo Jima: 'These boys I'm with are all good men. I would not take 1000 dollars to be separated from them'." "I learned how eager you boys were to serve. Harlon Block, at the base of that pole, enlisted in the United States Marine Corps with all of the senior members of his high school football team." "I learned how determined you were on Iwo Jima. My dad wrote a letter home three days after the flag raising. He wrote, 'I didn't know I could go without food, without water, or sleep for three days, but now I know it can be done'." "I learned about leaders. Ira Hayes is the last guy up there. The next guy you're looking at is Franklin Sousley. Behind Franklin, obscured by Franklin, is my hero - Mike Strank. Where is Mike's right hand? Mike's right hand is not on the pole. Mike is behind his boys. He's the Sergeant. He's the Marine leader and his right hand is gripping the right arm of Franklin Sousley, a young boy. Mike is helping Franklin lift a heavy pole; a Marine leader caring for his boys. Three weeks before Iwo Jima, his Captain said that he wanted to promote Mike Strank. Mike turned it down on the spot saying, 'I promised my boys I'd be there with them'." "And I learned about the heartbreak that you went through. Franklin Sousley, the second figure in. Franklin was fatherless at the age of nine. He was dead on Iwo Jima at the age of nineteen. His aunt told me that when the telegram arrived at the General Store in Hilltop, Kentucky a young, barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The story is that the neighbors could hear his mother scream all night and into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away." "I learned about the challenges that you faced. You did the impossible. You fought an underground, unseen enemy. I learned that the Air Force bombed Iwo Jima more than any spot in the Pacific and only rearranged the sand. I learned that the Navy lobbed shells the size of Volkswagens - with the power to re-sculpture Mount Suribachi - and didn't kill anybody." "It took you guys to win a battle that historians describe as 'American flesh against Japanese concrete'." "I have been to Iwo Jima. It's five miles long. If you're in a car going 60 miles an hour, it takes you 5 minutes to conquer it. It took you -slogging, fighting, dying - 36 days." "I learned that my father's company, named "Easy" Company, had 84 percent casualties. Sixteen percent of my dad's buddies made it off unharmed." "Bob Schmidt told me that when they buried the dead on Saipan, they buried by individual grave. When they buried on Iwo Jima they buried by row - rows of a hundred boys. He told me that they needed surveyors to mark the lines." "Corpsman Hoopes instructed me, 'You tell your readers that my uniform was caked with blood and it cracked. And it was not my blood'." "I learned about the buddyhood and bravery that won the battle of Iwo Jima. Jack Lucas, here in the front row, jumped on the beach without a rifle. And the reason he didn't have a rifle is because he wasn't supposed to be there. He stowed away to go fight the battle of Iwo Jima. And a couple days later jumped on two grenades to save his buddies. "Nurse Norma Crotty is in the audience and I interviewed her. She was an "Angel in the Air," flying down to evacuate the grievously wounded. She evacuated Navy personnel, Army personnel - all over the Pacific. She was a nurse for 50 years caring to civilians and military. "I asked, 'Nurse Norma, was there anything different about those Iwo Jima Marines?' And she said, 'Yes, I'll never forget them. It was their spirit. I evacuated boys from other battles that were beaten, but those Marines had Esprit de Corps. Those boys were burned. They were bruised. But I never saw a Marine who was beaten'." "I think it's time we Americans put this battle into perspective. This is not just a big battle of the Pacific, or an important battle of World War II. This is unique. This is above and beyond. This is 'America's Battle'." "America's Battle, what else can you call a battle that in one day had more casualties than two and a half months at Guadalcanal? Normandy was terrible, but at the end of one day, at the end of 24 hours, you and I could have had a tea party on the beaches of Normandy. It was completely safe. Boys died on the beaches of Iwo Jima - on the beaches - for two weeks. "America's Battle. What else can you call the only battle that when Franklin Delano Roosevelt saw the casualties he gasped, and he cried?" "TIME Magazine, March 5th, 1945, wrote, 'no battle of World War II - not even Normandy - was watched with as much interest as the battle of Iwo Jima'." America's Battle . . . (Bradley gazes at the Iwo Jima veterans in the audience and beckons to them...) "Hey guys listen up! George Washington. Thomas Edison. Hank Aaron. You Marines and Corpsmen who won America's Battle. I would like to salute you guys, but I know how difficult that is because you are as humble as you are brave. Jessie Boatright said to me, 'You know Bradley, you think we did something special out there in the Pacific, but we were just ordinary guys. Ordinary guys just doing our duty'." "Yes, well, I'm more in synch with the words of Tex Stanton. I often call Tex Stanton when I need advice with my writing. And he always picks up on the first ring. He doesn't leave his chair very often. Because Mr. Stanton has no legs. He left those on Iwo Jima 55 years ago. Mr. Stanton said to me, 'You know Bradley, heroism on that island was a funny thing. You had to be observed, and you had to be written up, and if you got a medal your citation said that you did something "above and beyond". Well Bradley,' he said, 'I saw a lot of heroes on Iwo Jima and the way I figure it, if you got through one day on that island you were doing something "above and beyond" just to survive'." "I would like to salute you guys. You guys who won America's Battle. You ordinary guys. You heroes of Iwo Jima." [After a silent pause Bradley turns to gaze at the six bronze figures for a moment and then walks across the wet grass to his seat.]

--- From: Kenneth W. Colby] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 3:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Military Record Cost - July 1 > >The night before- Last night, lets say Tuesday night at a lecture, I was talking to my friend & colleague : > Dr. Robert (Bob) PLOWMAN of the Mid-Atlantic National Archives > in Philadelphia. He told me that on July 1, 2000, the cost of the > Military Records was going from $10.00 to $17.50 & the cost of the > Pension Records from $10.00 to $40.00 this is for the Revolutionary > War, Civil War, etc. So you may want to send for these records before > the cost goes up! > Also he says that the Federal Census are going up to $25.00 - but you must have the name and the page # for they will no longer do a search for you. The Archives on the new server are at http://206.163.62.2/maillist/broome-ny.archive The Old Archives are located at ftp://genweb.net/pub/archive/broome-ny-digest.archive If you would like to run some of the lists go to www.genweb.net/Maillist.html -

In response to my earlier inquiry noting that Maunus Alkire obtained land adjacent to land of Jacob Reed and Col. Mercer and asking where Reed and Mercer lived, someone sent me an email noting that there is a mountain called Alkire Mountain in Hampshire or Hardy County. This was news to me. Can anyone tell me where Alkire Mountain is or was located? James Mitts

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AA355668A63BD2643FC0C7A7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am searching for any info on the ARONHALT family, and, in particular the last residence of John ARONHALT, b. 1800 d. 1885. bur. Garrett, MD. He married second an Isabell S. ???? who is buried be side him. If you have access to an 1880 Census, could you check to see if he's there? The name is often misspelled: Arnold, Arnholt, Aaronhalt, Arinhold/t, Arenhold/t, and even Earnholt. I was told by an Arnold family researcher that there were Aronhalts in Preston Co. Please ask them to contact me. Thanks Carolyn --------------AA355668A63BD2643FC0C7A7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Carolyn Robinson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Carolyn Robinson n: Robinson;Carolyn email;internet: [email protected] x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------AA355668A63BD2643FC0C7A7--

----- Original Message ----- Subject: [OLDWORDS] Fw: Old Occupations > Forwarded with permission. > Alexandra > Compiled by Dan Burrows. "I put these 130 items together from many > sources and used it as a handout > for our local Orange County (NY) Genealogical Society. I was asked by > many recipients if the CHART could be forwarded to other lists or used in > local newsletters. The answer is yes -- please share this information." > Dan Burrows - [email protected] > -------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [email protected] > Just passing this along in case it might be helpful. -- Endy > > Old Occupations > > Accomptant Accountant > Almoner Giver of charity to the needy > Amanuensis Secretary or stenographer > Artificer A soldier mechanic who does repairs > Bailie Bailiff > Baxter Baker > Bluestocking Female writer > Boniface Keeper of an inn > Brazier One who works with brass > Brewster Beer manufacturer > Brightsmith Metal Worker > Burgonmaster Mayor > Caulker One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or > seems to make them watertight by using tar or oakum-hemp fiber produced > by taking old ropes apart > Chaisemaker Carriage maker > Chandler Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; > retailer of groceries, ship supplier > Chiffonnier Wig maker > Clark Clerk > Clerk Clergyman, cleric > Clicker The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to > invite customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the > compositors and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes > > eyelet holes in boots using a machine which clicked. > Cohen Priest > Collier Coal miner > Colporteur Peddler of books > Cooper One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & > hoops, such as casks, barrels, tubs > Cordwainer Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather > from Cordova/Cordoba in Spain > Costermonger Peddler of fruits and vegetables > Crocker Potter > Crowner Coroner > Currier One who dresses the coat of a horse with a > currycomb; one who tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease > Docker Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo > Dowser One who finds water using a rod or witching stick > Draper A dealer in dry goods > Drayman One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides > for carrying heavy loads > Dresser A surgeon's assistant in a hospital > Drover One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a > dealer in cattle > Duffer Peddler > Factor Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business > for another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate > Farrier A blacksmith, one who shoes horses > Faulkner Falconer > Fell monger One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for > leather making > Fletcher One who made bows and arrows > Fuller One who fulls cloth; one who shrinks and thickens > woolen cloth by moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and > finishes cloth > Gaoler A keeper of the goal, a jailer > Glazier Window glassman > Hacker Maker of hoes > Hatcheler One who combed out or carded flax > Haymonger Dealer in hay > Hayward Keeper of fences > Higgler Itinerant peddler > Hillier Roof tiler > Hind A farm laborer > Holster A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn > Hooker Reaper > Hooper One who made hoops for casks and barrels > Huckster Sells small wares > Husbandman A farmer who cultivated the land > Jagger Fish peddler > Journeyman One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his > craft, not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day > Joyner / Joiner A skilled carpenter > Keeler Bargeman > Kempster Wool comber > Lardner Keeper of the cupboard > Lavender Washer woman > Lederer Leather maker > Leech Physician > Longshoreman Stevedore > Lormer Maker of horse gear > Malender Farmer > Maltster Brewer > Manciple A steward > Mason Bricklayer > Mintmaster One who issued local currency > Monger Seller of goods (ale, fish) > Muleskinner Teamster > Neatherder Herds cows > Ordinary Keeper Innkeeper with fixed prices > Pattern Maker A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a > wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end > Peregrinator Itinerant wanderer > Peruker A wig maker > Pettifogger A shyster lawyer > Pigman Crockery dealer > Plumber One who applied sheet lead for roofing and set lead > frames for plain or stained glass windows. > Porter Door keeper > Puddler Wrought iron worker > Quarrier Quarry worker > Rigger Hoist tackle worker > Ripper Seller of fish > Roper Maker of rope or nets > Saddler One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other > furnishings for horses > Sawbones Physician > Sawyer One who saws; carpenter > Schumacker Shoemaker > Scribler A minor or worthless author > Scrivener Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public > Scrutiner Election judge > Shrieve Sheriff > Slater Roofer > Slopseller Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop > Snobscat/Snob One who repaired shoes > Sorter Tailor > Spinster A woman who spins or an unmarried woman > Spurrer Maker of spurs > Squire Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace > Stuff gown Junior barrister > Stuff gownsman Junior barrister > Supercargo Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and > the commercial concerns of the ship. > Tanner One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather > Tapley One who puts the tap in an ale cask > Tasker Reaper > Teamster One who drives a team for hauling > Thatcher Roofer > Tide waiter Customs inspector > Tinker An itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman > Tipstaff Policeman > Travers Toll bridge collection > Tucker Cleaner of cloth goods > Turner A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles > Victualer A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or > ship with food > Vulcan Blacksmith > Wagoner Teamster not for hire > Wainwright Wagon maker > Waiter Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the > tide to collect duty on goods brought in. > Waterman Boatman who plies for hire > Webster Operator of looms > Wharfinger Owner of a wharf > Wheelwright One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages, etc. > Whitesmith Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the > work > Whitewing Street sweeper > Whitster Bleach of cloth > Wright Workman, especially a construction worker > Yeoman Farmer who owns his own land > > > > >

Still seeking ANY information on the following: Caleb Evans and wife, Eve Wadel, settled in Hampshire County, VA (now in WV) circa 1800. Thye had sons Peter, David, Abel and Alexander. Also had daughters but names unknown. Caleb and Eve were married in Frederick, MD. In the 1830;s Caleb and Eve went to Ohio to live with a daughter and they died there. Sons remained in VA. Where was Caleb from? Who were his parents? Who were his siblings? Benjamin Evans was in Hampshire County also by 1810-1815. Lived near Caleb. He married Priscilla Bosley. Their children: Abraham, Jacob, Edward (aka Ned), Nancy and Elinor. By 1830, they were in Hardy County, VA (now WV). Benjamin stated on 1850 census he was born in PA and his birth date would be circa 1778. Who were Benjamin's parents? Who were his siblings? This is a 20 year search that so far has been one of invincible futility.

Does anyone know how I can contact Richard MacMaster who wrote "History of Hardy County"? He quotes a letter of Valentine Simmons in the book and I would like to find out who owns that letter. Joyce

On 12 Sep 1788 Maunus Alkire was granted 304 acres in Hampshire Co. on the east side of the South Fork of the South Branch. It adjoined land of Jacob Reed and Col. Mercer. I'm trying to determine the location of the 304 acres. Can anyone tell me where Jacob Reed's and Col. Mercer's land was located? James Mitts

---------- > I have a small booklet put out by the Masonic Lodge of Moorefield about > 1957/58. My uncle was a member and gave this to my father. > > LODGE HISTORY > > Original Charter 1807, No. 80 > > The original charter for Moorefield Lodge No. 80 A.F. & A.M. was issued by > Right Worshipful Grand Master David Robertson in the State of Virginia > under the date of December 15, 1807 with > James Machir, Worshipful Master > Thompson McDonald, Senior Warden > Nathan Parrell, Junior Warden > > This Lodge's first report to the Grand Lodge of Virginia under date of 1808 > listed the following officers in addition to those listed above: > John M. Smith, Secretary > William Courley, Treasurer > James Pierce, Sr., Deacon > John Duffield, Jr., Deacon > John Hopewell, Sr., Steward > Jesse Cunningham, Jr., Steward > John Gibbony, Tyler > > The following names appeared as members: > John Craigen Isaac Pancake > John Cunningham Ambrose Updegraff > Samuel McMechen Edmond Waggoner > John S. Scone George Sauman > David Carson Frederick Troutwine > Sol Cunningham Peter Hull - E.A. > Solomon Fisher Martin McNemara - E.A. > James Miles William Naylor - E.A. > Nathaniel Pendleton James Dailey - E.A. > Robert T. Flannigan Geo. Neville - W.D. > James Johnson > > James Machir, the First Worshipful Master was born 1764 in Tannadice, > Scotland. He was commissioned a Colonel in the Colonial Army under General > Washington. He served as a Congressman from this district in the Fifth > Continental Congress at Philadelphia, later he served as a Delegate from > this District on eight occasions at the General Assembly of Virginia in > Richmond. The records of the Grand Lodge of Virginia show in 1812 that > "James Machir Moorefield Lodge No. 80 was appointed on a Committee to find > the most expedient mode of creating funds for the care of orphans and > widows of Masons." > > In this Lodge's report to the Grand Lodge under date of 1812 the following > new members were listed on the roll: > Warner Throckmorton - M.M. > Peter Hull - M.M. > Charles A. Turley - F.C. > Valentine Simmons - F.C. > Alexander Sanford - E.A. > Armistead O'Bannon - E.A. > > Suspended were Thomas Bennett and John Bentley. > > It is very interesting to note that during these days and many years > thereafter, Entered Apprentices and Fellow Crafts were members of a lodge > the same as Master Masons, and neither the Subordinate lodges or Grand > Lodge of Virginia opened on anything but the E.A. Degree except when > necessary to confer the F.C. or M.M. Degree, or when for a trial of a > brother when the Entered Apprentices and Fellow Crafts were not Permitted. > > In 1843 the step-up was made by the Virginia Grand Lodge, requiring all > three degrees to become members of a lodge in the Grand Jurisdiction of the > Grand Lodge of Virginia. It was noted that during this period the > Moorefield Lodge No. 80 failed to make its report to the Grand Lodge and > was declared dormant by the Grand Lodge of Virginia. We are indebted to > James M. Cliff, Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of Virginia, for most of > the above information. > > Past Grand Master J. Bernard Dodrill of the Grand Lodge of West Virginia > stated in his History of Masonry in the South Branch Valley that when > Moorefield Lodge No. 80 was chartered, Wheeling was but a small town, > Morgantown, Fairmont, Clarksburg, Parkersburg, and Charleston were post > villages. Huntington was a vast forest, Hinton was only a clearing, > Grafton was known as Three Forks, Moundsville as Elizabeth and Bluefield > and Beckley were forests. The original Charter granted to Moorefield Lodge > No. 80 is still in the possession of the lodge as well as the Working Tools > of the Lodge that were used at that time. > > Charter of 1860 - No. 192 > > By special dispensation of the Grand Lodge of Virginia, under date of > September 12, 1860, Moorefield Lodge No. 192 was authorized. The first > officers under this charter were: > J. K. Chambers, W.M. > G. W. McNeill, S.W. > Charles L. Cunningham, J.W. > John W. Basore, Secretary > Phillip T. Shearer, Treasurer > Francis Silver, Sr. D. > R. D. Long, Jr. D. > James Chipley, Tyler > > This was a very active and progressive lodge up until the Civil War. The > lodge suspended operations and all meetings from November 21, 1861 to July > 20, 1865. However the lodge operated continuously from this latter date > presumably under their Virginia Charter, No. 192 until July 3, 1869. This > charter is also in the lodge at the present time. > > Charter of 1869 - No. 29 > > Our present charter was issued by the Grand Master of Masons of West > Virginia on July 3, 1869, and we were designated as Moorefield Lodge No. 29 > A.F. & A.M. > > The first meeting of this lodge under their present charter as disclosed by > the records, show following to be the regular officers: > H.M. Gamble, W.M. > J. J. Chipley, S.W. > E. O. Harwood, J.W. > P. T. Shearer, Treasurer > E. M. Williams, Secretary > J. B. Gilkeson, S.D. > R. J. Tilden, J.D. > J. M. Linthicum, Tyler > > As far as can be ascertained this lodge first met in the Allen building (on > Corner). Its next place of meeting was on the third floor of the P. T. > Shearer building now occupied as a drug store, later on the third floor of > the Post Office building and now in its own fine building just south of the > Post Office. > > Past Grand Master and Grand Historian J. Bernard Dodrill of the Grand Lodge > of West Virginia stated at the dedication of our new Masonic Home in 1949, > that Moorefield Lodge No. 29 never worked under dispensation, but received > its charter by the Grand Lodge of W. Va. endorsing its Virginia Charter. > That it has continued to work continuously since being chartered Dec. 5, > 1869 as No. 29 and has retained this number to the present time and is the > only lodge in this district to enjoy this distinction. > > The large brick and lime building which the lodge now occupies is owned by > the lodge. It has been remodeled and enlarged so that now we have one of > the finest and most up-to-date department stores in this section of the > state occupied by the Coffman Fisher Company. It has three apartments on > the second floor together with a fine Blue Lodge room, dining room and a > modern kitchen. The income from this building will enable the lodge to pay > off its indebtedness in about ten years. > > The committee in charge of the construction of this fine new building was: > G. R. Kiracofe, P.M. > W. C. H. Poole, P.M. > B. J. McWhorter, P.M. > Respectively Submitted, > G. R. Kiracofe > L. R. Grover > Roy C. Wilson > >

Hardy County was certainly a hot bed of activity during the war. In my family my grandfather told my dad that when he was a boy the soldiers would help the locals with their harvesting - probably to get part of it. At least that would be better than just taking it. My grandfather said that he and his brothers would take apple cider out to the fields for the soldiers. They would be Union or Confederate depending on who was in control of Moorefield and the surrounding area at that time. My dad was born in 1899 and he told me that when he was young and the kids would have a fight at school he would be called "Yankee Lover". I'm not sure how it was determined that my family had been Union sympatherizers because we had soldiers on both sides but the kids probably got their ideas from their parents. It must have been extremely difficult to be in Hardy County during that time. Joyce

Our Family Oral tradition and a few letters in the MS library at William & Mary speak to the help at Harvest time by Confederates. They would rotate using a threshing machine early in the war. Another Oral history spoke of taking all of the animals up into the mountains to hide them from the army - which army has always been a question ! I suspect the Confederates. Gen. Rosser's reports told of LARGE quantities of sheep, cattle, and wheat taken from the area. Thanks, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Reiss [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Civil War Stories Hardy County was certainly a hot bed of activity during the war. In my family my grandfather told my dad that when he was a boy the soldiers would help the locals with their harvesting - probably to get part of it. At least that would be better than just taking it. My grandfather said that he and his brothers would take apple cider out to the fields for the soldiers. They would be Union or Confederate depending on who was in control of Moorefield and the surrounding area at that time. My dad was born in 1899 and he told me that when he was young and the kids would have a fight at school he would be called "Yankee Lover". I'm not sure how it was determined that my family had been Union sympatherizers because we had soldiers on both sides but the kids probably got their ideas from their parents. It must have been extremely difficult to be in Hardy County during that time. Joyce

I have not any reseacrh as to the draft laws of the United States such as to dates of "first draft, age and health requirements and as to any changes over the course of the Civil War, War Between The States, War of The Rebellion, War of Norhern Agression, The Recent Unplesantness, or whatever anyone chooses to call it. People were drafted; people enlisted, people deserted, people were conscripted; people when captured switched sides, people hired substitutes, people lied about their age to enlist, some women posed as men and enlisted' some who served have no official record they served, some who never served were honored in their later years as grand heroes of one side or the other, people who never rose above the rank of private were later recognized as colonels or even generals. You name it, it probably happened. The list posted contained names of those who, according to the Adjutant General of West Virginia, had served in the Union Army sometime between 1861 and December 31, 1864 from the State of West Virginia and they were listed as having "enlisted at Greenland Gap, West Virginia, which, until 1866 was located in Hardy County, West Virginia. In 1866, once Grant County was formed, Greenland Gap became located in Grant County. Not all of the men listed may have been from Hardy County: they simply showed up there and "enlisted." This list was a state list complied from lists sent in by officers. It is possible someone enlisted, remained a few days and then went on back home so the officer removed his name from the list before he sent it to Wheeling. The officer compiling the list in the field may have sent another list to Washington that omitted a name or two that had gone on the Wheeling list and vice-versa. People joined one unit and later they transferred to another unit. The initial enlistments were for time periods of 6 months, 1 year, 2 years and 3 years. Some did not re-enlist once the initial enlistment ended. Other did re-enlist and may have been assigned to another regiment, company and they re-enlisted at a place that was different from the first so there would be two geographic locations given for the same person at two diffrent times. A change of name spelling or different initial could have occurred. This list is ONE list of many. I have no doubt it may be incomplete and it may have some erroneous information. If so, you'll have to blame the officers who compiled the list in 1864, the Adjutant General of West Virginia in 1864, your ancestor who was not quite sure as to how his name was spelled or perhaps the postal carrier who lost part of the list as he took it from Greenland Gap to Wheeling, but please, please don't blame me. If your ancestor is ommitted and you want to add him, please feel free. If your ancestor is not there but you know he was, add him. If you think he was on the other side, switch him. IF that makes you uncomfortable, switch him back. If he was a private but you want him a general, promote him. If he deserted or was AWOL at one roll call, and that embarrasses you, get some white-out or a good eraser. It is a free country, thanks to all of our ancestors, on either side who had in their time all we lack and they lacked all we now have. That is the great irony of history. Mike Foreman Roland Elliott wrote: > Yes ,they draft 16 year olds,and Officers had their young boys as > Ensigns.also 8-12 year olds were drum and fife and stretcher bearers.R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Veerle Foreman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 20 18 PM > Subject: Union "Enlistments" > > > Ladies and gentlemen: I sent this list to the Hardy site for the soul > > purpose of letting > > readers know of names of Hardy countians who were in the Union Army. I > > stated they > > were "enlistees" as this is how ALL who were listed for the entire state > > were listed in teh AG report used. > > . > > Since my great grandfather, Benjamin F. Evans, was listed and I know he > > joined at age 16 in December, 1861, I assumed he was an enlistee as I > > don't think they were drafting 16 year olds at that date. > > > > I also did not post to convey an impression that West Virginians joined > > only the Union Army. As Terry Gruber reported, Hardy County was a > > bitterly divided county and I suspect more Hardy countians joined the > > Confederate Army than the Union, but that is beside the point. I think I > > have read 30,000 PLUS men from West Virginia served in the Union Army > > and I listed those from Hardy County found in an official record simply > > to help genealogy researchers for Hardy to perhaps locate a few lost > > ancestors. > > > > I have received a few e-mails thanking me as I had helped them to locate > > a missing ancestor. However, these pale when compared to those who > > question whether those listed were enlistees or draftees and those who > > think I am casting dispersions > > on those from WV who served in the Confederate Army. > > > > Any by the way, until 1863, the WV Units were designated as VIRGINIA > > UNITS > > which has caused some resarchers to believe the units were Cofederate > > Units. > > Until WV officially became a state, that is why the units were > > designated as Virginia units > > and not WV. > > > > Mike Foreman > > Winchester, VA > > > > > > > >