John, John Varvel was a surety, along with Michael Harness for Matthias Yoakum as administrator to Francis Yoakum's estate in 1751 (Frederick Co Will Bk.) I'm guessing this is same guy: Jno Vanville (Chalkley transcription) May21 1760 mentioned Daniel Richardson's estate settlement, and Jonathon Warwell mentioned in 1749 James Coburn estate. James CoburnCockburn was one of the earliest actual on the ground settlers in SBV. He first lived near Old Fields but when VanMeters came to take up their grant, he moved onto the Petersburg area where he established a mill at mouth of Mill Creek. He appears in Augusta Co records in 1747 and died by April 1749 when his estate was ordered to be appraised. Son, Jonathon. I recall but don't have at fingertips, a pretty hilarious account of the George Washington's survey party staying with the Coburn's because of a "buxom lass". Oh, men! :-) Wm Miller in records by 1744 on Col. James Woods Fee Bk for Frederick Co (taxes) and Genn surveys 433 A - #4 on Wappacomo or Great SBP for him by 1749. 1752- he has 380 A on R. Cacapehon, adj Edward Hogan. John Dunbarr conveys to Wm Miller, farmer of Frederick Co. on Lost River (Chalkley3:306); 1747 court case: John Preston vs. Wm Miller; 1749 court case Wm Hughes vs. Wm Miller; Wm Miller also on Roanoke/New River 1750; 1752-gone to Carolina; 1754 a Wm Miller is decd, son David Miller. Would guess these are not all the same guy and probably not a complete list of all records citing him. Isaac Johnson/Johnston shows up in Augusta Co records15 March 1758 mentioned in estate of Christian Tosher. Vance surveyed 400A for him on Patterson Crk adj. Theodorus Davis. 1766: Isaac Johnson brother in law to Isaac Robinson; Isaac Johnson ready to move to Carolina (Chalkley 1:342) ; Land left to Isaac's heir, John and wife Sophia Darling in 1768. Decd by 1769 I have some of the specific citations for above if you need them. Sara Patton At 06:08 PM 7/11/00 -0400, you wrote: >Searchers: I would appreciate help in identifying more fully each, or any, >of the following mid-18th century residents of the South Branch area: > Isaac JOHNSTON > Jonathan COBURN/COCKBURN > John WARVEL/Johannes VARVEL > William MILLER >Each was involved in an estate, 1750-58, in then Frederick Co., but I assume >South Branch residents. Their names also appear in Augusta County records of >that period. >Thanks, John

Searchers: I would appreciate help in identifying more fully each, or any, of the following mid-18th century residents of the South Branch area: Isaac JOHNSTON Jonathan COBURN/COCKBURN John WARVEL/Johannes VARVEL William MILLER Each was involved in an estate, 1750-58, in then Frederick Co., but I assume South Branch residents. Their names also appear in Augusta County records of that period. Thanks, John

Jeff, Well, yours might be one of the descendants. I've about about twenty descendants all named Archibald for their ancestor, Archibald, b. 1736. I have not, however, gotten to the Civil War -- that's going to take another lifetime I expect. Do you have a birth date, parents for your Archibald? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff L Carr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:09 PM Subject: Re: HALIFAX, VA., COLONIAL SOLDIERS, FRENCH AND INDIAN WAR > Thank you for the list of soldiers. I have been looking unsuccessfully > for MY > Archibald THOMPSON. Now I know, at least, where he might have gotten his > name. Mine is too young to be this one. Mine fought and died in the > Civil War. > He is from VA though. > > Jeff Carr of TX > researching Carr, Daly, Furse, Gibbs, Hale, Killian, McCammon, McKnight, > Merrill, > Moore, Mundine, Smith, Thompson, Tuckwood, Walker, Wallace, Wheeler and > allied lines > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

Thank you for the list of soldiers. I have been looking unsuccessfully for MY Archibald THOMPSON. Now I know, at least, where he might have gotten his name. Mine is too young to be this one. Mine fought and died in the Civil War. He is from VA though. Jeff Carr of TX researching Carr, Daly, Furse, Gibbs, Hale, Killian, McCammon, McKnight, Merrill, Moore, Mundine, Smith, Thompson, Tuckwood, Walker, Wallace, Wheeler and allied lines ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

"Le Bateman" <[email protected]> wrote July 8 2000 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Peter Soloman > A number of years ago I wrote the Virginia Library to obtain a copy of > Peter Soloman's French-Indian War Service Records. He enlisted in Captain > Robert McKenzie's Company of Virginia Militia at Fort Pleasant Sussex. They > told me that they did not have anything before the American Revolution. The > National Archives said they did not have it either now what do I do. > Sincerely > Jacob L. Bateman III Mr. Bateman, I sent for the French and Indian War record for Archibald Thompson in 1998 and received a copy of the Land Office Warrant for Archibald's service. The land grant he got for this service was in Montgomery Co., and recorded in 1793; the image of the grant is available through the Library of Virginia Electronic web site. I will paste all information I got from the LOV below, and in a separate post, give selected entries from Brockstruck's "Virginia Colonial Soldiers," which was enclosed with the copy I received. The excerpt did not include Sussex, so you could check the Bockstuck book to see if your Peter Solomon is listed. As you have the Peter Soloman's French-Indian War service record, you could write the Library to see if they can find a record in their French and Indian War Bounty Warrants Reels. Here's the information I sent to LOV when requesting the copy of Archibald's service record: ARCHIBALD THOMPSON DIARY Transcript by Lula Hankins Hunter <http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/archibald/> Page 102 December ye 1st 1759 We was Discharged out of the Second Battallion of the Virginia Ridgement By an Act of Asembly From under the Comd of *Col pechua and Capt Trockmorton and Lieut Richardson . *Per research by Barbara Marsh, "on 14 Sept 1758, the House of Burgesses passed an act for the defense of the Virginia frontier. The Virginia regulars, in 1758, were divided into two regiments; the First Regiment under Col. George Washington, and the Second under Col. William Byrd. Archibald Thompson, as entered in his DIARY, was a member of the Second Regiment, serving under Col. William Peachy, Col. of the Frontier Battalion, and Capt. Gabriel Throckmorton. He was twenty two years old and unmarried. The Regiment was discharged by an Act of Assembly on the 1 Dec 1759, which he noted in his DIARY. . . (Sources: Archibald Thompson Diary, 101,102, and Bockstruck, Virginia Colonial Soldiers, pp 212, 260, 274.)" COPY RECEIVED FROM LOV: FRENCH AND INDIAN WAR BOUNTY WARRANTS Reel 360, Warrant #193 (copy 2 facing pages) Proof of service for Archibald Thompson, 22 November 1779 1779 Montgomery Nov Court No 193 Archibald Thompson having produced sufficient proof to this Court that he is entitled to 200 acres of land under the King of Great Britain's proclamation issued in the year 1763 for military service for which he never recd. a warrant and ordered that the same be certified to the Register of the land office for this state. (signed) A copy James M. Corkle Cmd. Warrant for 200 acres issued to Archibald Thompson, November 22, 1779 =============================== Land-Office Warrant No. 193 To the principal Surveyor of any County within the Commonwealth of Virginia. This shall be your Warrant to survey and lay off in one of more Surveys, for Archibald Thompson, his Heirs or Assigns, the Quantity of Two hundred Acres of Land, due unto the said Archibald for military service performed by him as a Serjeant in the late War between Great Britian & France according to the terms of the King of Great Britain's Proclaimation of 1763. A certificate of which duly proven is received into the Land Office. Given under my Hand, and the Seal of the said Office, on this Twenty-third day of November in the Year One Thousand Seven Hundred and seventy nine. /s/ G. Curr D.R., L.O.". ======================== The Library of Virginia Reel 93, pp. 499-500 Grants 27, 1792-1793 Archibald Thompson, 200 acres, Montgomery County, 15 February 1793 Thompson, Archibald 15 Feby 1793 200a. On Some waters of the Maiden Spring fork of Clinch. LOV Land Office Patents and Grants, Card 41 http://198.17.62.51/cgi-bin/drawer/disk19/CC150/0493/T1709?41 Grants 27, p. 499 Henry See , Esquire., Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, to all who come there presents shall come, Greeting: Know ye, that by virtue of part of a Land Office Treasury Warrant Number eighteenth thousand five hundred and seventy two issued the ninth day of August one thousand seven hundred and eighty three, There is granted by the said Commonwealth unto Archibald Thompson a certain Tract or Parcel of land, containing two hundred acres, by survey, bearing Date the sixth day of March, one thousand seven hundred and ninety, lying and being in the County of Montgomery on some waters of the maiden spring fork of Clinch and bounded as followeth To Wit Beginning at an ash and chestnut on the top of a hill and running thence South seventy two degrees East . . . at the end of Puncheon Camp Ridge . . . To have and hold the said parcel of land with its Apputerances, to the said Archibald Thompson and his heirs forever In Witness whereof the said Henry See, Esquire, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia has hereunto set his hand and caused the lesser Seal of the said Commonwealth (page 500) to be affixed at Richmond on the fifteenth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and nineth three and of the Commonwealth the Seventeenth. /s/ Henry See

Excerpt enclosed with copy of Archibald Thompson's French and Indian War Bounty Warrant from The Library of Virginia, ordered June 1998. From Lloyd DeWitt Brockstruck, "Virginia's Colonial Soldiers." Baltimore: Genealogy Publishing Co., Inc., 1988, pp. preface, vii; 200-201; 212-213. (Typist note: I have typed only the names of the soldiers in the Halifax Co. entry.) p. 201 The following entries are taken from William Waller Hening's collection of the laws of Virginia. During the French and Indian War, the House of Burgesses passed an act for the defense of the frontier of the colony on 14 September 1758. The soldiers mentioned in the schedule attached to this act appear below. Accomack County: . . . Amelia County: . . . Albemarle County: . . . p. 212 Halifax County: Col. Abraham Maury, for pay to Lt. Thomas Green, and a part of militia under the command of said Green, as by muster roll, 42.1.0; to Col. Abraham Maury for pay to Thomas Spragin as a Lt., and a party of the militia under his command, as by muster roll, 5.10.0; to Col. Abraham Maury for pay to Capt. Robert Wooding and a company of militia under his command, as by mustr roll, 82.19.0; to Col. Abraham Maury for pay to Capt. Peter Wilson and a company of militia under his command, as by muster roll, 33.3.4; to Col. Abraham Maury for pay to Lt. James Dillard and a part of the militia under his command, as by muster roll, 102.4.3; Thomas Calloway, Ens., 0.16.0; Edward Peregoy, John Lewis, Peter Manin, Johnn Childers, William Simmons, Huncrest Scarlock, and John Wade, 0.7.0 each. Col. Abraham Maury, 28 days service in riding to the forts and settling townships, 14.0.0, and for riding from Williamsburg to Halifax, with Mr. President's instructions, 150 miles, 2.10.0; and for 10 days riding to Williamsburg and attending on the committee to settle militia accounts, 5.0.0. Capt. Robert Wade, Jr., for his pay and for that of his officers, and a company of militia, 475.8.6; to Col. Abraham Maury for pay to Capt. Dillard and his militia company, 414.11.4. Capt. Thomas Callaway, 6.18.0; Lt. William Edwards, 3.9.0; Ens. Hugh Harris, 2.6.0; Sgt. James Elkin and Sgt. John Edwards, 2.18.0 each; John Harris, John Rice, Thomas Norton, Thomas Fern, John Harris, Jr., John Wade, Benjamin Croley, Richard Moore, ARCHIBALD THOMPSON, John Blevins, Clement Lee, Wells Ward, Nathaniel Hendley, John Sturd, James Sturd, William Blevins, Jr., Josiah Cox, Ningum Prator, Nehemiah Prater, John Blevins, Sr., William Asher, and John Gracer, 1.3.0 each; William Rickle, 1.5.0; Joseph Morton, John Lindsey, William Murfee, and George Young, 0.4.0 each; John Sullivant and William Scales, 0.7.0 each; Daniel Durbin, Edward Peregoy, William Ratcliff, Silas Ratliff, and William Satterwhite, 0.12.0 each; John Frederick Pickle and Daniel Newman, 0.6.0 each; James Blevins, 0.15, 0; John Talbot, Thomas Wollin, and Pearce Gwin, 0.8.0 each; William Cox and William Blevins, Sr., 0.9.0 each; John Williams, 0.14.0. Nathaniel Terry, the balance of his pay for attending militia, and building three forts, 29.10.0. Hanover County; Henrico County; James City County; Loudoun County, Louisa County; Lunenburg County . . . . Excerpt ends at p. 213 .

Hi Listers..I am looking for information on Leroy Crawford, born Harding County, WV March 16, 1829. died in Montezuma, Iowa April 29, 1913. He was married to Mary Ann Bowers. There were twelve children. He served with distinction 1860-1864 as a Captain of Company 2, 14th Regiment West Virginia Militia. Any information would be appreciated. Carl J. Shiber

Hello, This is a message for anyone interested in the Feaster surname and in the Feasters of Virginia in particular. The deed was recorded on Hardy County Deed Book #7, pp 436-438 and dated 11 June 1816. Felix Seymour of Hardy County was the grantor and Elizabeth Webb formerly Elizabeth Fester, Henry Fester, George Fester, Mary Fester and Catherine Fester heirs of Henry Fester decd. of VA were the grantees subject to the Dower of Eleai(j?)or Sims widow and relict of Elijah Sims decd. It contained: 420 acres "(with the exception of twenty seven acres included in a survey dated the 5th day of May in the year 1790situated on Loonies Creek adjoining the Lands of William Norman...)" "Also one other Tract or parcel of Land Situate on the waters of Lunies Creek adjoining the Lands of Alexander Arrowhood and bounded ..." which contained 56 acres. Also another parcel containing 49 acres situate on the waters of Lunies Creek adjoining the lands of William Norman and mentioning "Peter Jackson's corner" A notation at the bottom stated that it was delivered to Daniel Webb, husband of Grantee Elizabeth. The FEASTER GENEALOGY states that the Henry (whom I call Henry Sr.) was the son of Henry Feaster who died in Bucks County PA in 1822. Obviously, he was the son of the Henry (whom I call Henry of VA). There is a deed in which Henry Feaster bought land in Rockingham County VA in 1789. This could not have been Henry Sr. who was born about 1786. The Henry Feaster, Sr. enumerated in the 1810 Census of Rockingham, must have been the man I call Henry of VA. There may also be a brother named Abraham Feaster who inherited the land owned by Henry of VA. He later migrated to Hardy and is buried with his wife in the Frantz Cemetery in Maysville. Both Henry Sr. and Abraham had sons named John. Henry Sr's son John reported his death and gave his father's name as Henry. Abraham's son John R. reported his death and gave his father's name as Henry. Both were reported as being born in VA. I would like to discuss this with anyone who is interested in this family. Arcella Moore

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------16064AAD6F4D84B8D327CD71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This appeared on The Hampshire site and ought to be on the Hardy Page too --------------16064AAD6F4D84B8D327CD71 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by norm.shentel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21086 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:18:32 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e65JGhC27139; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:16:43 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:16:43 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Wed Jul 5 12:16:42 2000 Message-Id: <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> From: "Joyce Reiss" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:14:03 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: Settlers to New Design, Illinois, 1797 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1974 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Source: "History of Grant and Hardy Counties, West Virginia" by E L Judy Petersburg, West Virginia. Printed by Charleston Printing Company, Charleston, West Virginia. Copyright 1951. pp111-112 (following a quote from Judy's book.) "Governor John Reynolds in his "Pioneer History of Illinois" published in 1852 gives much praise to emigrants from Hardy County. He termed them an efficient and enterprising colony of Americans from Hardy County, Virginia, who settled at New Design, Illinois in 1797; and says this was the largest and most flourishing company of farmers, mechanics and laborers that ever came to Illinois at or before that day. He states that a year or so before David Badgley, Leonard Carr, Abraham Stookey, Daniel Stookey, Abraham Iman, Solomon Shook, a Mr Whetstone, a Mr Borror and others came as explorers and thoroughly examined the country and remained most of the summer and that David Badgley, a minister, frequently preached and that they returned to Virginia and reported to their neighbors and friends and that a whole colony, in number about one hundred fifty-four souls, crossed the mountains in wagons, on pack horses and on foot to Morgantown on the Monongahela River and there waited for some time for boats to be finished and in May they set sail down the river on their way to Illinois, the land of promise; and he tells of their many hardships on their trip and after they reached New Design, including a most malignant fever. He reports that the graveyard of 1797 may yet be seen at New Design which will cause the observer to shudder at the mortality and distress of that day; and says there was scarcely a family of all these emigrants that did not have to mourn the loss of one or more of its number and that many of the families were left nearly extinct. Reference is made to the names of Badgley, Carr, Clark, Iman, Miller, Mitchel, Shook, Teter and others as heads of families of this colony whose descendants are recognized as numerous and respectable; and he says that this colony introduced an orderly and moral influence which did great service to the previous inhabitants; and that these emigrants from Virginia attended strictly and honestly to business and not only improved the country but their example also improved the people. Reference is made to Rev David Badgley as a devoted and active Baptist minister who organized the first church of this denomination at New Design. Governor Reynolds gives names of many other early pioneers of Illinois as distinguished Indian fighters, soldiers of the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 and preachers, doctors, lawyers and successful business men and prominent and useful in the affairs of state or locally and says they came from Virginia, Maryland, Kentucky or other eastern states; and it may be and we think it likely that a considerable number of these pioneers at one time lived in the South Branch Valley or passed through this gateway on their road to the west. Space will not permit a detailed report of these brave pioneers but following are among names shown in this interesting history: Anderson, Baker, Bird, Bond, Brady, Brown, Calhoun, Casey, Chambers, Cochran, Collins, Cook, Cox, Daniels, Enochs, Finley, Fisher, Ford, Gregg, Harness, Hayes, Higgins, Hill, Hopkins, Hughes, Hull, Johnson, Jones, Judy, Kitchen, Lemon, Lyon, McClure, McDonald, McMechen, Michael, Moore, Patterson, Peck, Pope, Price, Randall, Ratcliff, Rawlings, Rigg, Russell, Rutherford, Scott, Smith, Sprigg, Stewart, Stubblefield, Thomas, Thompson, Valentine, VanMeter, Wolfe and Worley." Mr Judy then gives a write up on Dr George Fisher and Jacob Judy. Hopes this adds to the information that you have. Joyce ---------- > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Unidentified subject! > Date: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:53 PM > > <e: Rev David Badgley>Ill from Hampshire Co,WV</FONT><FONT SIZE=3 > PTSIZE=10 > Date: 06/24/2000 4:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR> > From: [email protected] (Jim Bridges)<BR> > Reply-to: [email protected] (Jim Bridges)<BR> > To: [email protected]<BR> > < What surnames migrated with Rev David Badgely?<BR> > < > I really don't know the answer to that question. However, on David's > first<BR> > trip to Illinois, in 1796, the scouting party consisted of Badgleys, > Leonard<BR> > Carr, Abraham Stookey, Daniel Stookey, Abraham Iman, Solomon Shook, a > Mr.<BR> > Whetstone, a Mr. Borrer, and others. [source: "David Badgley in > Illinois<BR> > Territory" by Lyn Allison Yeager, published in "Foundations, a > Baptist<BR> > Journal of History and Theology," July-September, 1977, p. 264.]<BR> > <BR> > > I'm sure I read they stopped<BR> > > a year or ywo in Bourbon-Montgomery Co,Ky.<BR> > The above cited article fails to show that. This article notes that > upon<BR> > their return in 1796 to WV, all in the community agreed to move to > the<BR> > Illinois Territory after a series of community wide meetings. In the > spring<BR> > of 1797 the move began. 154 people crossed the mountains to Morgantown > and<BR> > the Monongahela River. It is believed the group continued onto the > little<BR> > town of Brownsville, Pa. There they secured flatboats, called a > Kentucky<BR> > flat, because travel along the Ohio passed the length of Kentucky. In > May<BR> > they pushed off from Brownsville for their journey of 1300 miles. > They<BR> > docked at Fort Massac and began their overland journey to New Design.<BR> > <BR> > > Any knowledge of Susanah Dayton or Thomas and Mary Ball Brown, 1782-87 > tax<BR> > > lists near Moorefield,WV? Any Ball ties in Essex co,NJ. Ever see > the<BR> > Batchley > > spelling of Badgely? > I've seen the Batchley surname before - but not linked to Badgley. I > have > no knowledge of the other people above. Sorry. > Jim Bridges > St. Clair Co. IL GenWeb Project Coordinato > e-mail: [email protected] > http://www.frontiernet.net/~jimbridg/stclair.htm<BR> > <BR> > </XMP></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0f0f0f" BACK="#fffffe" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=10><BR> > <BR> > ----------------------- Headers --------------------------------<BR> > Return-Path: <[email protected]><BR> > Received: from rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (rly-ye04.mail.aol.com > [172.18.151.201]) by air-ye03.mx.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Sat, 24 Jun > 2000 16:40:28 -0400<BR> > Received: from node15.cwnet.frontiernet.net (node15.frontiernet.net > [209.130.129.205]) by rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Sat, 24 > Jun 2000 16:40:06 -0400<BR> > R > Reply-To: "Jim Bridges" <[email protected]><BR> > From: "Jim Bridges" <[email protected]><BR> > To: <[email protected]><BR> > References: <[email protected]><BR> > Subject: Re: Rev David Badgley>Ill from Hampshire Co,WV<BR> > Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:40:47 -0400<BR> > O > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! 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Jeff L Carr wrote: > Isle of Wight is a county in Virginia proper. By the way it is written, > there may be > a Hardy Twp in Isle of Wight Co. I have not done any work in that > county, so I > don't know it that well. > > Jeff Carr of TX > researching Carr, Daly, Furse, Gibbs, Hale, Killian, McCammon, McKnight, > Merrill, > Moore, Mundine, Smith, Thompson, Tuckwood, Walker, Wallace, Wheeler and > allied lines > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. There are no townships in Virginia, nor any other southern county. Townships are a northern/midwestern political unit. Aside from incorporated towns, the smallest political unit in the south is the county. Tery Gruber

Mary You are not mistaken. This list is for Hardy Co discussion, and people from Hardy Co. I have no idea, what the reply from Roland is supposed to mean ? Can you tell us Roland ?? Thanks Sue ---------- > From: Roland Elliott <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Am I mistaken? > Date: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:01 PM > > Did you think our "Hardy Co" people sat on there thumbs.R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 19 10 PM > Subject: Am I mistaken? > > > Am I mistaken? I thought I was on a list where people discussed Hardy Co., > W.Va.? Mary Louise > > >

Isle of Wight is a county in Virginia proper. By the way it is written, there may be a Hardy Twp in Isle of Wight Co. I have not done any work in that county, so I don't know it that well. Jeff Carr of TX researching Carr, Daly, Furse, Gibbs, Hale, Killian, McCammon, McKnight, Merrill, Moore, Mundine, Smith, Thompson, Tuckwood, Walker, Wallace, Wheeler and allied lines ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Am I mistaken? I thought I was on a list where people discussed Hardy Co., W.Va.? Mary Louise

Isel of Wight is a county in southeast Virginia between Richmond and Norfolk. Mike Foreman Roland Elliott wrote: > The Isle of Wite is off shore of England and produce a breed of Sailors?R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 14 16 PM > Subject: Islde of Wight Co/Township Hardy > > Hey everyone! > Hope you are enjoying a safe and relaxing holiday! > > Wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with the "Isle of Wight > Co/Township Hardy". I was looking up the surname "Tims" for listings and > there are a few "Tims" listed for this area....does anyone know if this is > indeed Hardy Co in WVA or some other county in VA? I could not find it > listed in my Handy Book for Genealogists. > > Any thoughts? Please reply. Thanks so very much! > Best, > Elizabeth Culhane > Fairport, New York

In a message dated 7/2/2000 1:38:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I found only one reference to the treatment of prisoners from the > > southern campaigns, in Lynn Montross, "Rag, Tag, and Bobtail". This > > work states that the continental troops from the siege of Charleston > > were held on prison ships. Conditions were poor and about a third of > > the prisoners died. > > > > If one takes the word "torture" to mean pain and suffering, then I > > suppose these men were tortured. To my mind, however, torture implies > > an intentional infliction on pain, usually either to extract information > > or to punish. I have found no evidence of the latter. >> Torture: Dictionary def: 1) to cause intense suffering to: torment; 2) to punish or coerce by inflicting excruciating pain; 3) to twist or wrench out of shape; distort, warp. When conditions are bad enough that one third of the men die because of environment, food or treatment by the guards/system, that's torture by definition. Both writings (original and OHMEIGS response) are largely opinions based on facts. Both are over-simplifying a complex and drawn out period. Like 90% of most history books, the truth lies somewhere in between. Diane

Thanks to everyone who replied to my email....Elizabeth

Sure,What was Mary referring too!That should be the start.R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]> To: "Roland Elliott" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 19 37 PM Subject: Re: Am I mistaken? Mary You are not mistaken. This list is for Hardy Co discussion, and people from Hardy Co. I have no idea, what the reply from Roland is supposed to mean ? Can you tell us Roland ?? Thanks Sue ---------- > From: Roland Elliott <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Am I mistaken? > Date: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:01 PM > > Did you think our "Hardy Co" people sat on there thumbs.R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 19 10 PM > Subject: Am I mistaken? > > > Am I mistaken? I thought I was on a list where people discussed Hardy Co., > W.Va.? Mary Louise > > >

Did you think our "Hardy Co" people sat on there thumbs.R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Louise Gossum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 19 10 PM Subject: Am I mistaken? Am I mistaken? I thought I was on a list where people discussed Hardy Co., W.Va.? Mary Louise

Hey everyone! Hope you are enjoying a safe and relaxing holiday! Wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with the "Isle of Wight Co/Township Hardy". I was looking up the surname "Tims" for listings and there are a few "Tims" listed for this area....does anyone know if this is indeed Hardy Co in WVA or some other county in VA? I could not find it listed in my Handy Book for Genealogists. Any thoughts? Please reply. Thanks so very much! Best, Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, New York

In a message dated 7/3/2000 12:28:44 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << If I had Thomas $ I would burn mine >> Which Thomas? Jefferson? He had to sell most of what he had in the later years just to keep the creditors at bay. His land was foreclosed on shortly before his death. Jefferson died a poor man, finacially. His experience and knowledge was priceless--but past actions and smart wit does not put meat and bread on the table. Diane