Panhandle Book: Ralston: Ellen, Granny, Joseph, Joseph SR., Martha, Samuel, Thomas. WAGS has this book for sale, Check the web site <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvwags/index.htm">Wheeling Area Genealogical Society</A> Mary

Grayce, < That indexed book is a winner. No wonder they are so expensive. Dummie me, what is a WAG?...grayce> WAGS is the Wheeling Area Genealogy Society at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvwags/ Keep in mind that Hancock was once Ohio Co., VA/WV. WAGS and the Wheeling Library (Ohio Co., WV) has much material on our early Hancock Co. pioneers. So does Schiappa and the Vivian Snyder Libraries in Steubenville, OH. Julia fkrutill@weir.net

I have been searching three states for this book and talked to many people about it, it will be "hot" for a while. I checked the book, not paying much attention to the author, a large, red, raggedy volume with yellow pages for my Derouin, but it was not there, I learned later that there were a few different books by an assortment of authors, I will call Wheeling Library Monday and see what they say, (I made contact there Saturday, but she never called back.) then will contact the ones below. That indexed book is a winner. No wonder they are so expensive. Dummie me, what is a WAG?...grayce p.s. I will call Tuesday....can't wait > From: "Julia A. Krutilla" <fkrutill@weir.net> > Reply-To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:32:01 -0400 > To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVHANCOC] History of the WV Panhandle > Resent-From: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:31:24 -0700 > > Regarding the History of the WV Panhandle. There are copies of this > book at Swaney in New Cumberland; M. H. Weir Library, Weirton; and > Schiappa Library in Steubenville. It can also be rented from your local > LDS library. And the WAGS did a surname index on this wonderful > history. > > But......... another young author by the last name of Roxley (?), did a > reprint and included an "every name index" in the back. Our genealogy > group just purchased this latest copy two weeks ago and donated it to > the Jefferson County Historical Museum and Library. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjcha/ > > The Vivian Snyder Genealogy Library > c/o Jefferson County Historical > Association and Museum > 426 Franklin Avenue > Steubenville, OH > > ph. 740-283-1133 > > Now we all know how great an "every name" index is. Will save valuable > time and include every individual rather than just surnames. > > You can call Tues - Fri from 10 a.m. til 3:00 p.m. for a volunteer to > help. > > Good luck, > > Julia > fkrutill@weir.net > URLs: > > Julia A. Krutilla's Ancestor Page: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6664/ > > Jefferson County Chapter, OGS: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/ > > >

Regarding the History of the WV Panhandle. There are copies of this book at Swaney in New Cumberland; M. H. Weir Library, Weirton; and Schiappa Library in Steubenville. It can also be rented from your local LDS library. And the WAGS did a surname index on this wonderful history. But......... another young author by the last name of Roxley (?), did a reprint and included an "every name index" in the back. Our genealogy group just purchased this latest copy two weeks ago and donated it to the Jefferson County Historical Museum and Library. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjcha/ The Vivian Snyder Genealogy Library c/o Jefferson County Historical Association and Museum 426 Franklin Avenue Steubenville, OH ph. 740-283-1133 Now we all know how great an "every name" index is. Will save valuable time and include every individual rather than just surnames. You can call Tues - Fri from 10 a.m. til 3:00 p.m. for a volunteer to help. Good luck, Julia fkrutill@weir.net URLs: Julia A. Krutilla's Ancestor Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6664/ Jefferson County Chapter, OGS: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/

Posted on: Hancock County, WV Query And Surname Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hancock?read=362 Surname: Ralston ------------------------- Hello Bob, Thanks so much for your note. I just sent you an email. so excited to find another Ralston cousin. Talk with you more by email. Kim Ralston Dresser Okla.

Posted on: Hancock County, WV Query And Surname Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hancock?read=361 Surname: Ralston ------------------------- My father was Dwight Ralston, son of Maebelle and Ford Ralston. Although his family was from Burgettstown, PA, just across the state line from Hancock County, WV. He married my mother Eva Ralich, who was from Kings Creek, though once they married, they lived in Weirton--but not Kings Creek. Our family gravesites were at 3 Springs Cemetery til the 1960's, when we found due to an errors that someone had accidentally been buried on one of the plots. My parents sold the remaining plots and purchased new ones in Chestnut Ridge Cemetery, PA, where there are many other Ralstons. I don't know if this is helpfulto you at all or not.

Thanks, that was cute, like the X-Files..but I got it.......grayce > From: kygal2@webtv.net (Patricia Ryan) > Reply-To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:10:55 -0400 (EDT) > To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVHANCOC] new cumberand library # > Resent-From: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 08:10:54 -0700 > > Hi Grace, i mistakenly sent a message to Julia on the Swaney Library #. > Sorry. It is ( area 304-564-3471) > >

Thank you for the phone # of Swaney Library..I will call them Monday...........grayce > From: kygal2@webtv.net (Patricia Ryan) > Reply-To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:04:58 -0400 (EDT) > To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVHANCOC] WHAT TO DO AND NOT TO DO WHEN WORKING IN A CEMETERY > Resent-From: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 08:04:57 -0700 > > Julia...Thanks for the wonderful article on graveyards it will benefit > many people. My sister and I are planning to work on one on her farm in > Ky. this very summer. > Here is phone number for the Swaney Library in New Cumberland ( > 304-564-3471 ). > >

Hi Grace, i mistakenly sent a message to Julia on the Swaney Library #. Sorry. It is ( area 304-564-3471)

Julia...Thanks for the wonderful article on graveyards it will benefit many people. My sister and I are planning to work on one on her farm in Ky. this very summer. Here is phone number for the Swaney Library in New Cumberland ( 304-564-3471 ).

Julia, Do you or list have the phone number of the library in New Cumberland, WVA? I am searching for a book History of the Pan-handle by J. H. Newton. Thank you.........grayce > From: "Julia A. Krutilla" <fkrutill@weir.net> > Reply-To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:05:01 -0400 > To: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVHANCOC] WHAT TO DO AND NOT TO DO WHEN WORKING IN A CEMETERY > Resent-From: WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:04:29 -0700 > > For those of you who are planning a trip to your ancestor's grave this > summer: > > WHAT TO DO AND NOT TO DO WHEN WORKING IN A CEMETERY > > by Jeanne Robinson, Executive Director > Oregon Historic Cemeteries Association > ohca@integrityonline.com > > Historic cemeteries are in need of care, but there are many > well-meaning folks who actually harm them. Here are a few hints > to assure your visit to a cemetery will result in something > positive. > > Old marble gravestones and wooden grave markers are very > fragile. Do not lean on them or treat them roughly. Be careful > with weed whips around the stones (concrete bases are much > tougher). If necessary, hand-trim any weeds. > > Lawnmowers should never be run over a gravestone. Take care when > mowing near markers, fencing, or curbing. Bumpers made of old > tires on your mower will help prevent scraping. > > Cleaning of marble gravestones is NOT recommended. Even the most > gentle cleaning methods (clear water and soft bristle brushes) > will remove particles of stone. Never use bleach or wire brushes > on ANY stone. NEVER power-wash or sandblast a grave marker of > any kind. > > Please do not smoke in the cemetery. There are no ashtrays, and > a stray spark could start a fire in dry grasses and weeds. Many > old cemeteries were totally obliterated when fire swept away all > of the old wooden markers. > > Please do not move or remove any metal funeral home markers -- > even if they can't be read. They mark a grave. The same is true > of fragments of gravestones or even what appear to be stray > rocks. If you must move for mowing or weeding, please return > them to the exact spot from which they came. > > Before you remove or mow plants try to identify them. Lilacs, > roses, iris, and other flowers, trees, and shrubs may be antique > specimens planted by pioneers. It is OK to remove trees if they > pose a threat of getting big and harming nearby gravestones. > > Herbicides may be used in cemeteries, but be careful not to > spray on the markers. Protect them from over-spray with garbage > bags or dry cleaner bags. > > In most Oregon cemeteries [and elsewhere in the United States] > you will find examples of four common types of grave markers. > The following will help you identify each: > > Granite Gravestones: Granite is a very strong mineral used to > identify graves since about the turn of the [20th] century when > stone carvers developed tools to carve the lettering. It holds > a polish well and generally will have multi-colored grains. > > Marble Gravestones: Marble was used for most early grave markers > in Oregon [and in many other parts of the United States]. It is > generally white or blue-gray and often shows veining. Because it > is a soft mineral, early stone carvers often included beautiful > artwork on their marble grave monuments. > > White Bronze Markers: These monuments look to be a gray-green > color and often surprise folks when they realize they are metal > (zinc). If you are in doubt about whether you are looking at a > metal marker, tap it lightly. White bronze monuments are hollow. > > Wooden Markers: Early pioneers and settlers sometimes marked > graves with wooden crosses or slabs. Some contemporary graves > are also marked this way. Old wooden markers are hard to find > and harder to read. > > [This article first appeared in the OHCA LEDGER, Volume 9, Issue > 1 (June 2000) and is reprinted here with its kind permission and > that of the author. OHCA LEDGER is a publication of the Oregon > Historic Cemeteries Association, Inc., which is a nonprofit > corporation formed to educate the public about our cemeteries, > to build and maintain appropriate databases, and to protect our > cemeteries and their records.] > >

For those of you who are planning a trip to your ancestor's grave this summer: WHAT TO DO AND NOT TO DO WHEN WORKING IN A CEMETERY by Jeanne Robinson, Executive Director Oregon Historic Cemeteries Association ohca@integrityonline.com Historic cemeteries are in need of care, but there are many well-meaning folks who actually harm them. Here are a few hints to assure your visit to a cemetery will result in something positive. Old marble gravestones and wooden grave markers are very fragile. Do not lean on them or treat them roughly. Be careful with weed whips around the stones (concrete bases are much tougher). If necessary, hand-trim any weeds. Lawnmowers should never be run over a gravestone. Take care when mowing near markers, fencing, or curbing. Bumpers made of old tires on your mower will help prevent scraping. Cleaning of marble gravestones is NOT recommended. Even the most gentle cleaning methods (clear water and soft bristle brushes) will remove particles of stone. Never use bleach or wire brushes on ANY stone. NEVER power-wash or sandblast a grave marker of any kind. Please do not smoke in the cemetery. There are no ashtrays, and a stray spark could start a fire in dry grasses and weeds. Many old cemeteries were totally obliterated when fire swept away all of the old wooden markers. Please do not move or remove any metal funeral home markers -- even if they can't be read. They mark a grave. The same is true of fragments of gravestones or even what appear to be stray rocks. If you must move for mowing or weeding, please return them to the exact spot from which they came. Before you remove or mow plants try to identify them. Lilacs, roses, iris, and other flowers, trees, and shrubs may be antique specimens planted by pioneers. It is OK to remove trees if they pose a threat of getting big and harming nearby gravestones. Herbicides may be used in cemeteries, but be careful not to spray on the markers. Protect them from over-spray with garbage bags or dry cleaner bags. In most Oregon cemeteries [and elsewhere in the United States] you will find examples of four common types of grave markers. The following will help you identify each: Granite Gravestones: Granite is a very strong mineral used to identify graves since about the turn of the [20th] century when stone carvers developed tools to carve the lettering. It holds a polish well and generally will have multi-colored grains. Marble Gravestones: Marble was used for most early grave markers in Oregon [and in many other parts of the United States]. It is generally white or blue-gray and often shows veining. Because it is a soft mineral, early stone carvers often included beautiful artwork on their marble grave monuments. White Bronze Markers: These monuments look to be a gray-green color and often surprise folks when they realize they are metal (zinc). If you are in doubt about whether you are looking at a metal marker, tap it lightly. White bronze monuments are hollow. Wooden Markers: Early pioneers and settlers sometimes marked graves with wooden crosses or slabs. Some contemporary graves are also marked this way. Old wooden markers are hard to find and harder to read. [This article first appeared in the OHCA LEDGER, Volume 9, Issue 1 (June 2000) and is reprinted here with its kind permission and that of the author. OHCA LEDGER is a publication of the Oregon Historic Cemeteries Association, Inc., which is a nonprofit corporation formed to educate the public about our cemeteries, to build and maintain appropriate databases, and to protect our cemeteries and their records.]

The following link provides Library of Congress Panoramic Maps of Cities and Towns from Historical Art which can be viewed on your computer monitor and printed on your printer. http://www.historicalart.net/ You can also order Mural Size Maps (to decorate your genealogy room) from the link above. Cross your fingers - you just might find an ancestor's residence/plantation. JEFFERSON COUNTY CHAPTER, OGS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/ Julia fkrutill@weir.net

Thanks Alma, Apparently wrong bunch of Whittens. Caroline WVHAMRICK@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Alma Whitten <alma@cs.cmu.edu> To: <WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [WVHANCOC] hello from a 4g-grandaughter of Alexander Edie > Hi Caroline, > > Sorry, afraid not -- I'm only a Whitten by marriage. Now divorced, but > I kept the name. My ex-in-laws are from Windor Locks, Connecticut. > > Best, > > -Alma >

So sorry, list, I just noted I inadvertently sent a personal message that should have been sent to Alma. Caroline WVHAMRICK@prodigy.net

Zeta, have you seen this, from Ancestor Publishers (on microfilm)? Some Pioneers of Washington Co., PA; A Family History (1670-1899), by F. S. Reader, pub. 1902. This family history is about one of the pioneer families of Washington County, PA. Colonel William Wallace and Elizabeth Hopkins, his wife, who were born, reared and married in Montgomery County, MD and built their home in the wilds of Western Pennsylvania. From this central point, the history of the ancestors and descendants of all the families connected with this couple in the United States is given, as far as possible to secure the facts. Allied names include: Bentley, Greer-Gregg, Smith, Scott, White, Reader, Trumbo and James. I suspect this is the William Wallace that both our relatives are named for. Note that White is in the list of allied names. Also, there appears to be a collection of excerpts from this book up at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ahopkins/pa-book.htm (it seems to be all the excerpts that relate to the name Hopkins), and it includes some Wilsons. Anyway, I'm going to order this microfilm, as it's only $8.00, and see what I can find. The Ancestor Publishers page is at http://www.firstct.com/fv/PA.html -Alma

Hi Caroline, Sorry, afraid not -- I'm only a Whitten by marriage. Now divorced, but I kept the name. My ex-in-laws are from Windor Locks, Connecticut. Best, -Alma

Hi Zeta, and thank you very much for all the info! I'm afraid it might still be premature for us to conclude that Nancy Herron Carson is the daughter of William and Martha, though that birth date is very tempting. Here's what I have on each: Nancy Herron Carson, b. 15 Mar 1831, New Cumberland WV, United States m. Thomas Jefferson Edie, 30 Aug 1849 d. 1896, United States This information is from an LDS Ancestral File that traces the Edie line down as far as the children of William Wallace Edie. It was submitted by David and Sheri Jensen, 5296 West Ticklegrass Road, West Jordan, UT, 84084. I have no additional verification for most of what's in it, but it seems to be very detailed, including burial places and similar data. Nancy W. Carson, b. 15 Mar 1831, WV to William Carson and Martha Haney This information is from LDS microfilm 1903803, Official Temple Record for deceased individuals, 1991 - no additional information, submitter's name not available. I note that on the 1850 census data you sent me, William and Martha have a child Samuel age 21 and a child Jas. age 18 -- the Nancy who married Thomas Edie would have been 19 and already married in 1850, so she could have fit in the birth order between Samuel and Jas., and she would have been out of the house. So that fits okay, but doesn't do much in the way of confirmation. I also note that there are lots of Herrons buried in Union Cemetary, but they were all born later than Nancy -- the earliest is Westley b. 1855. If I assume that the LDS Ancestral File is right and that Thomas's wife did indeed have Herron in her name, then I'd want to try to account for that before linking her to William and Martha. Zeta Wilson Peterson wrote: > I am hoping that you have additional information that might help connect > my WILSON information. Note that one of the sons in the Wilson line was > named William 'Wallace' Wilson. Perhaps a connection there? We also have > a Carolina Mathilda White. I see both the surnames Wallace and White in > your list with the Carsons. I haven't come across any Wallace links yet, but you're right, that is intriguing. If I discover anything that seems relevant I'll let you know. As for White, the Maude Alice White in my list married Stewart Carson Edie (I seem to have dropped the m. in my original message), and I have data saying she was born in Missouri, youngest of 13 children, 14 Dec 1884. I have more information on her if you want it, but as of yet I don't have anything linking her back to the Hancock area. Thanks again, -Alma

Hi Alma, Just wondering if you have anything on the Whitten line? Caroline WVHAMRICK@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Alma Whitten <alma@cs.cmu.edu> To: <WVHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: [WVHANCOC] hello from a 4g-grandaughter of Alexander Edie > Hello everyone, > > My surnames: EDIE, CROXTON, MOORE, CARSON, STEWART > > My lineage, from where it diverges from Dale Patterson's: > > Alexander Edie b. 1803 > m. Margaret J. Moore b. 1804 > Thomas Jefferson Edie b. 1824 > m. Nancy Herron Carson b. 1831 > William Wallace Edie b. 1852 > m. Martha J. Stewart b. 1854 > Stewart Carson Edie b. 1878 (in Missouri) > Maude Alice White b. 1884 > Leslie Charles Edie b. 1914 (my grandfather) > > I'd like to find out more about the wives in that line, and am wondering > if Dale's found out anything about Margaret J. Moore or Esther Dwyer. > LDS has a Nancy W. Carson b. 15 Mar 1831 to William Carson and Martha > Haney, which is the same birthdate as the one I have for Nancy Herron > Carson, so I'd love to find out if they're the same -- I don't have hard > verification for any of this though I'm afraid. Similarly, I have Martha > J. Stewart b. 22 Feb 1854 to John and Jane Stewart, which is in the list > of 1854 births in the web archives, but I have nothing on John and Jane > and would love to place them. > > I'm in Pittsburgh finishing grad school and would be interested in > doing a datafinding trip to Hancock sometime this summer; if people > have suggestions for what would be most useful (to me and the rest of > you) for me to transcribe, look up, or take pictures of, let me know. > > Thanks! > > -Alma Whitten >

Subject: RE: [Fwd: Carson & Wilson] Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:29:52 -0400 From: "Dick and Betsy French" <BARKFrench@worldnet.att.net> To: "Zeta Wilson Peterson" <zetap@prodigy.net> The 1810 Carson is easy - only one. I also have the 1850 Hancock Co. census transcription, which has 10 Carsons. Here's Samuel Carson 1810: CARSON, Samuel 1 m 45-up .................................1 f 45-up .................................1 f 26-44 .................................1 m 10-15 .................................1 f 10-15 .................................4 m <10 .................................1 f <10