From: "Laura McKenzie" <laurabrownmckenzie@worldnet.att.net> To: "HERMON" <hermfagley@juno.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:10:30 -0500 Subject: Fw: Anderson, Mounts, Friend M---- Original Message ----- From: Laura McKenzie <laurabrownmckenzie@worldnet.att.net> To: <AMERIND-US-SE-L@cultures.rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Anderson, Mounts, Friend [HB FAGLEY-following has many items I have seen before,but never all at one place. It has been my idea that many of these people with Indian blood traditions do not look early enough on their tree. Martin Chartier was with LaSalle,in 1698,in Illinois, and led a mutuny, which resulted in him living with the Shawnee several years before showing up in English civilization near Joppa ,Md,where he was jailed a spy. He then traded from a home on the river in w Lancaster Co,Pa where he told the Swedish traders of the west. Chartier traded at Piscataway,and at Point of Rocks,Md,on the Potomac, if not Oldtown,Md FRENCH AND iNDIAN WAR FORTS ON UPPER POTOMAC "Frontier Forts of Berkley,Co,Va' -The Berkley Journal,1999, AND Cecil O'Dell's great book on Old Fredrick Co,Va' pinpoint some of the Swedes,as does Dr Peter S CRAIG'S book on Nils Larsson Vriend, and another of his and Henry Yocum's on Olaf Stille,and the Steelman's. Nichol's Fort was 5 miles sw of FORT CUMBERLAND,ON THE N Branch OF Potomac. Anderson's Fort was west of Old Town,Md on n side N branch Shelby's Fort was near FT FREDRICK-wife Letitia Cox,swede The 1750's fort of Indian trader Richard Pearis was on the South Branch rd w of Winchester Coleman Brown was killed by Indian's s Morgantown,WV Enoch's Fort was on North River Branch of Great Capecon Cox's Fort was at mouth of Little Capecon Newkirk's fort was at Little Georgetown,on the Potomac-wonder if that's how Georgetown,Oh was named by Henry Newkirk Friend's had an iron bank just west of Harper's Ferry.]> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cdiller@juno.com> > To: <FRIEND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 10:25 AM > Subject: FRIENDS and Indians > > > There are lots of tales about the Friend family and > Indian connections. Below is the evidence I've found > of them associating/trading with Indians. I'm researching > traders on the upper Potomac, and find that the traders > usually came from families with histories of trading. > > Additions, corrections, and legends pertaining to the following > are invited. > > 1668, June 5, Pa., Peter Rambo, Magistrate, advises prohibition > against selling liquor to Indians. > (Pa. Archives, 2nd Series, Vol. 7, pages 723-724.) > > 1668, June 25, New Jersey, license granted to Cornelius > Larssen Vrende > (Friend), > Olle Rawson, and Olle Jonsson, to buy West Jersey Lands from > Indians. > (N.J. Arch. 21: 3) > (Rawson was a cousin through the Rambo family.) > > 1669, Aug. 2, Pa., Henry Coleman "one of ye Finns and an > Inhabitant at > Delaware, hath left his habitation.being well-versed in ye > Indian > language.apprehend him." (suspected as part of an > insurrection) > (Pa. Archives, 2nd Series, Vol. 7, pages 723-724.) > > 1670, Oct. 5, Pa., re: fort on Delaware River: > Israel Helm, Peter "PRB" Rambo, Peter "R" Kock. > (Pa. Archives, 2nd Series, Vol. 7, pages 732-733.) > > 1673, Pa. Magistrates opposed to war with Indians: > Peter "X" Rambo, Peter "R" Cock. > (Pa. Archives, 2nd Series, Vol. 7, page 756.) > > "Indian Blood" (1967) by Evelyn G. Olson, page 9: > in 1674 Henry Coleman was part of a rebellion against > the English, and hid out with the Indians for several years. > (Coleman's wife is "said" to have been an Indian called "Bright > Lightning".) > > 1675, May 13, Newcastle, meeting between Gov. Andros & Indians; > present Israel Helme (interpreter), Peter Rambo, Lanse Cock, > Peter Cock; agreement of friendship. > Rambo referred to as an "old acquaintance" of chiefs. > (Rambo, pg. 14-15.) > > 1683, July 14, deed to William Penn, from Indians. > witness, Peter "X" Rambo. > ("Pennsylvania Archives", 1st Series, 1: 66.) > > 1683, Nov., Md., Jacob Young banished to Holland or Europe; > his bond by James Philips, Baltimore Co., & John Cox, Cecil Co. > (Arch. Md., Vol. 7, pages 507, 591, 596.) > > 1687, Dec., Chester Co. Court, indictment against "Annie, > Neales' > widow", > for keeping and harboring dogs that worries and kills her > neighbors hogs, and for detaining an Indian boy named > Chato who also worries said hogs. . . > she claimed the dog belonged to her grandson Peter Cox (Cock), > and was fined 10 sh. for the dog; > Andrew Friend gave bond of L.10 for behavior of > the Indian boy . . . (CCR 1:115.) > > 1695/6, Susquehanna River, Amos Nichols is trader with Indians. > (Hanna, Vol. 2: 337.) > > 1696, May 1, Maryland Assembly ordered Col. Casparus Augustin > Herman > of Cecil Co. to take into custody Cornelius Comegys and Amos > Nichols, > persons living upon the frontiers and driving a secret trade > with > "fforaign" Indians. his Majesty's customs are defrauded. > (In other words, they weren't paying taxes.) > (Maryland Archives, Vol. 20, page 405.) > > 1696, June 25, Maryland Assembly.letter re: traders. > "I have known Col. Herman a long time, and he that trades for > him > on Susquehanna, Amos Nichols, is better known than trusted. > (Maryland Archives, Vol. 20, page 470.) > > 1697, May, Md., reported that Amos Nichols should give out a > little > before the murder Committed in Cecil Co., this following > Expression, viz, that he was afraid there would be Some > Mischief done to the Indian Traders this Sumer by the Indians > by which Expression it is not a little Suspected that he > might have a hand in that fact. > (Arch. Md., 23: 98-99.) > > 1697, October, Md., Amos Nicholls of Cecil Co. is a very > vagrant > and wandering person, a very evil doer and is guilty of a great > many > heinous and notorious crimes and Offences. to be arrested. > (Arch. Md., 23: 260-263.) > > 1697, Nov., Md., Michael Judd, age 57, Innkeeper of Baltimore > Co., > appearing to say about Amos Nicholls who giving account of > one Thomas Browne and severall persons of the said County that > have had dealings wth. the said Nicholls within this halfe year > and concerning John Hanstillmans holding frequent > correspondence > wth. three French Indian Traders. > (Arch. Md., 23: 303-305.) > > 1698, April, Md., Major James Maxwell's Deposition about Amos > Nichols > read and Sworn to. > (Arch. Md., 23: 410-411.) > > 1699/1700, March 12, Amos Nichols of Ridley Township, Chester, > Co., > Silversmith, and Andrew Nilsson Friend of New Castle Co., were > indicted by Chester Co. court for highway robbery and forgery; > dismissed 11 June 1700. (CCR 2: 50-51, 59-60. ) > > 1701, June 2, N.J., Gloucester Co., court ordered Amos > Nicholson to post > bond for good behavior, having lately come to Greenwich Twp. > (GCR 1: 239.) > > 1710, Nov. 16, James Hans Steelman (per his journal) stayed in > home > of Anders Nilson (Friend), one mile from pastor Auren's house. > (Elk River, Cecil Co., Md.) (NGSQ 71: 256. ) > > 1712, Md., Cecil Co., lawsuit re: Indian trade goods; > Andrew Friend and Charles Mounts Anderson (trader, s/o Mans > Andersson), > suit against Anne LeTort (widow of trader), executrix of > Nicholas Godin. > (Cecil Co., Md., Judgments, Book E, page 204.) > (LeTort and Godin were traders in Pa.) > > 1720, Oct. 24, Upper House of Assembly of Maryland, > "the Shaw-wan Indians have carried away three Negro slaves > belonging to > the petitioner; the Indians have been told by Andrew Neal, > and other traders that they would be given a reward for > returning the > slaves." > (Publications of the Hall of Records Commission, Publication > #1, > Calendar of Maryland State Papers, No. 1, The Black Book, page > 27.) > > 1721, June 13, N.J., Gloucester Co., inventory of estate of > Charles > Dalbo, > personal estate totals L.122.15.3., including L.56.9. Indian > debts; > debts due from: Mountes Halton, Peter Justice, Peter Garren, > Clement Cornett, Andrew Melican, William Peterson, Peter Lock, > John Recom, William Cobb, Jester Lock, Erick Steelman, Peter > Cock, > Larrance Lock, Manuell Dirrickson, Erick Egelton, Elener > Friend, > Andrew and Charles (Strang?), Jacob Kuling, James Gerren, > Nicklos Justice, Larrance Peterson, Michael Hopman, Peter > Peterson, > all Gloucester and Salem Cos., > and, Amos Nicholes of Chester Co., Pa., > James Rillot (?) of Maryland; > Inv. by John Friend, Frederick Hopman, John Bond. > (NJA 23: 125.) > > 1721, June 13, N.J., Gloucester Co., inventory of Larrance > Dalbo, > personal estate L.32.19, including Indian debts due by > Major Bradford on Potomack in Maryland, and Mr. Bradley of > Maryland; > Inv. by John Bond, Frederick Hopman, John Friend. > (NJA 23: 125.) > > 1725, July 25, Md., Governor Calvert commissions Israel > Friend > as an Indian Trader, & ambassador to the Shawnee Indians > on the Potomac River. > (Maryland Historical Mag. 30: 132) > (Schildknecht, 1: 45.) (Archives of Maryland, Vol. 25.) > > 1725, Aug. 6, Maryland Council meeting on 5 August at Monocacy, > "Shuano Indians not meeting his Excellency there Resolved that > Israel > Friend > be sent up immediately to the said Indians with following > instructions. > to invite Indians to next meeting of the Assembly at Annapolis > on 5 Oct. 1725." > (Archives of Md., Vol. 25, pages 450-451.) > > 1727, Jan. 10, Md., Prince George Co., deed from Cunnawehala, > Taw-wenaw, Capt. Sivilite, Toile Hangee, Show Hays, > Callakahahatt, Kings of the Five Nations, for love, > to brother Israel Friend, land on Potomac River and > Antietam Creek, being 200 shoots of an arrow, then 100 > shoots in dimensions, up the creek. > witnesses, Humbenton Lyon, Gile Margalith; > rec. 27 Nov. 1730, by Charles Carroll, at request of George > Beall. > (P.G. Land Records, Liber Q: 169.) > (between Antietam & Conococheague Creeks, now Washington Co., > Md.) > (MHM 30: 8-9) > (This deed also rec. Clay Co., W. Va., Book 1, page 1.) > > 1728, May 10, Pa., Perkiomen petition by "back inhabitants" of > Falkner's Swamp and New Goshapopin (for protection > against Indians), 27 signers, including: Peter Rambo, Yost Hyt. > (The Perkiomen Region, Vol. 4, # 1, pages 1-2.) > (Peter Rambo Jr. 1653-1729.) > > 1740, deposition by John Rambo refers to elder "brother" Andrew > Friend > alias Neils, age 90 years, living on the Potowmack River > at the mouth of Conocheague Creek. > (Friend Family Assn., Vol. 1, # 3, pages 6-7.) > > "Winchester, Va., and It's Beginnings 1743-1814", (1926) by > Katherine G. > Greene, > pages 383-387, Frederick Co. clerk's fees 1744: > Israel Friend, 268 pounds tobacco > John Nichols, 196 pounds tobacco > > 1754, Sep. 24, Va., Frederick Co., > warrant for 13 acres to Michael Pruner, assignee of Simeon > Rice, > near Potomac River, adj. Rice land bought of Jonah Friend, > Edward Davis, John Carney; > Chain carriers, Benjamin Pettet, Richard Mount. > > 1761, Md., Frederick Co., Old Town Hundred, taxables, > Joseph Mounts 2, John Nichols Jr. 2, John Nichols Sr. 2, > Thomas Cresap 4 (present Allegany Co., Md.) > (Shaffer, 40.) > (John & Edward Nichols, s/o Amos, had been there since 1733.) > > Corinne > Faith is the highest passion in a human being. > Many many not come that far, but none come further. > --Soren Kierkegaard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bruce D. Sampsel <bsam@sssnet.com> > To: <AMERIND-US-SE-L@cultures.rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: Savannah > > > > Sheila, > > > > I have recently learned that an Indian Trader, Charles Mounts > Anderson, > > was active with the traders in Maryland around the Potomac > River about > > 1730+. One of the other traders at this time and location > was Peter > > Chartier, son of a Shawnee woman and Martin Chartier. The > Shawnee moved > > around extensively in the Colonial era..... > > > > The interesting thing abt. this Charles Mounts Anderson is > that he is a > > descendent of Mons Andersson, an original settler of NEW > SWEDEN, making > > him Swedish or perhaps Finnish. Some of Charles descendants > used Mounts > > as a surname. Some of the original Swedish settlers were > active in the > > Indian Trade , and also used frequently as interpreters. > Israel > > Friend,a Swedish descendent, was a trader. Also Steelman. > > There was also a JOHN ANDERSON who appears in Cresswell's > Journal, and > > who was active right before the Rev. War. As Shawnee Town was > on the > > Ohio at the mouth of the Scioto at this time, I'm sure he > must have been > > active with them as well as the Delaware. I don't know if any > of these > > Andersons are related or not, but it is interesting that the > surname > > keeps popping up in the Indian Trade. There was a Delaware > principal > > chief by the name of Anderson, 1800's, in the Indiana > territory and one > > of the Delaware towns in Indiana was named Anderson's Town > for him. > > This town was near Munsee Town, close to the White River, > near present > > day Anderson. > > > > The very large MONTOUR family is also an interesting family > that > > followed the trade and was of mixed-blood descent. > > > > For understanding the contact period and subsequent cultural > exchange, > > the fur trade seems to be a good thread to follow. The > difficulty seems > > to be that the traders and the various Indian groups moved > around over > > vast areas and intermingled so much that it gets hard to > follow and hard > > to know what one may be overlooking. I have really just > recently become > > interested in this aspect of colonial history and geneaology > and didn't > > realize how many sources are out there waiting to be > collated. A > > massive undertaking I am sure.... As I said, I have just > begun a bit of > > reading.... > > > > Brenda > > > > MAGICKRN@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Osiyo friends, > > > > > > I have learned that my 5th great grandfather was an Indian > trader with the > > > Savannah, who I have found, were a branch of the Shawnee > Tribe. What can > > > anyone tell me about the Shawnee in South Carolina? I am > trying to trace the > > > wives of these ancestors who were Indian. Most of my family > on my native side > > > has been Cherokee so far, but I was always told that some > of my ancestors on > > > the Scottish Anderson side married into another tribe. I > now believe that > > > tribe to be Shawnee. 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