My cousin,Bill Fagley's wife,Evie,or EDFAGLEY@prodigy.net has Coble-Koble's of the 1710 colony to Kobleskil,w Albany,NY, and then south,across country,to the backwoods of Tulpehocken, nw Berks Co,Pa . She sent me xerox's on the colony years ago, but I'm not digging thru my old files for a titile. I guess my original source for learning there was a Tulpehocken ,Pa to S Branch colony was a Michael Harness researcher,on Prodigy genealogy,about 1993. She ,I remember,gave a 1730's date,which I questioned,thinking 1740's more accurate. The colony of Pa relied,in the 1740's on a Tulpehocken German,who had lived among the Indians,as an interpeter. Conad Weiser [sp?] . Remember,when 1st settled, Tulpehocken,Pa did "not" abutt white settlements,nor was it settled from the nearest white settlements of Pa. Thinking Bethel,Pa is about it's location. Pardon my spelling,but it's pre-dawn,and to dark to hunt the correct spelling. Matatawny=Amity= Douglassville ,Pa was settled from people moving up the [sp?] Schulkyl River,which empties in the Delaware at Philadelphia, and by Swedes,who had been on the Delaware, 1638-56. Tulpehocken was settled by 1710 era immigrants from Germany>England> w Albany,NJ, who moved down the [?] Susquahanna River thru the mountians to Tulpehocken.Those 2 white settlements of 1720 wre across Berks Co,Pa from one another,and Matatawny=Amity-\Exteter was the nearest white trading center,as it was. Perkomen was east of the latter a bit,and mostly Germanic. I have faint memory that WM Penn toured the Rhine in Germany,1705+ promoting his colony,and setting off this big migration from the Palatinate section,which showed up very poor,in England soon after. 1727 or 1737 is the time Philadelphia started keeping records of ship loads of Germans arriving,and-or being naturalizied, but [?] 1709 is the Patatine migration. On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:46:49 -0400 Veerle Foreman <vforeman@shentel.net> writes: > What is the source for the information on the Germans who may have > gone from > NY to Hardy County and is there a complete list of names? > > HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > > > Tulehocken,nw Berks Co,Pa had one of the several colonies of 1710 > area > > German, > > who were spred by the British through their American colonies. > Very > > poor,this colony was > > 1st sent west of Albany,NY to Cobleskyl,and running into neighbor > and > > land title > > troubles,some cut thru the backwoods south to Tulpehocken. Late > > 1730-s-1740's > > found Michael Harness,b 1-1-1700 ,and others on the South > Branch,Potomac. > > As Tulpehocken was settled from the north,Maxatawny area of sw > Berks > > Co,Pa was > > settled from the S E-from Philadelphia and nearby. 1710-15,the > 1st > > settlement was > > Swedes of ex New weden,displaced by the Quakers around Phila. > Antoni > > Sadowski ,the Bird's, and > > Mordachi Lincoln moved over from Monmouth Co,NJ . Squire Boone > joined > > them Thomas > > RUTTER started SE Pa's 1st recorded iron furnace. And they were > joined by > > many German's > > and Swiss. Rutters and Sadowski's and Johnson's,at least ,were on > > Patterson's Creek,w > > Hampshire Co, by late 1740's .And whenthey retreated from > Indians,they > > joined many old > > Maxatawny,Pa neighbors east of North Mt in sw Shenadoah Co,and nw > > Rockingham Co's Va. > > Mrs Antoni Sadowski,by now the widow Palmer, left a 1748 > Patterson's > > Creek,old Fredrick > > Co,Va will of 1748,witnessed by a RUTTER. Her husband had been an > indian > > trader, > > AND 2 of her grandsons were on > > early 1773-1774 Ky surveying parties. Sadowski Sanduky Sodowski, > etc. > > Polish. > > > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:48:43 -0400 Sara Patton > <sarap@widomaker.com> > > writes: > > > Jean, > > > > > > There were at least two distinct See families in western VA/WV > from > > > the > > > 1750s on. One was headed by George and Margaret See who came to > the > > > South > > > Branch Valley of the Potomac from the Tulpehocken Valley of > Berks > > > Co, > > > PA. The descendents of this family still live in the South > Fork, > > > Lost > > > River region of Hardy Co, while others moved west to Randolph > Co, WV > > > and > > > southwest to Greenbrier and Kanawha Co. and onto Indiana, KY, > MO, IL > > > and IA > > > and points west. > > > > > > The other See family was headed by Martin See, who lived near > > > Maxatawny Twp > > > in Berks Co, PA and were not related to George See family. He > > > settled > > > farther south in the Shenandoah Valley on the Calf Pasture River > in > > > 1773. From there his sons, moved west to KY and beyond. > Coonrad > > > was part > > > of this family. The See List (See-L@rootsweb.com) is quite > active > > > and > > > helpful and there are a number of descendents from both See > families > > > who > > > may be able to help you. > > > > > > Sara Patton > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:40 PM 8/3/00 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum > > > >Board URL: > > > > >http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire?read=1300 > > > > > > > >Surname: Ely, See, Shaver > > > >------------------------- > > > > > > > >Thank you for your response. I found in my own records today a > > > sizable > > > >volume of research from a Mildred Edgarton with whom I had > frequent > > > contact > > > >on the surnames listed in the late 1980s. We lost contact, but > she > > > sent > > > >an Ely family group sheet which included, of course, my Coonrod > > > See. It > > > >is his line from his father, George, and grandfather that I am > > > searching. > > > >Some of the West Virginia Counties where I had found some of > these > > > names > > > >once had been Virginia, but I am appreciative of any correction > > > needed. > > > >Thanks! JB > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.