I have followed this discussion and I have uncovered 3 murders (so far), a couple suicides, and a father putting 6 daughters in the childrens home without the mother's knowledge, threatening and hurting his wife and walking away. All goes in my family history as without it seems I would be re-writing history and white washing the family. All of the above and what happens to our ancestors growing up blends together and makes us who we are today. I understand my Mom so much better today than I ever did before I began this search for Jesse. I am sorry about the deaths no matter how they happened. But I am more upset with the actions of my grandfather who left his 6 daughters in the childrens home and walked away with out a backward glance it seems. I wouldn't be here if my Grandma hadn't been pregnant with my Mom and most likely didn't know it when the above took place. The strangest thing about this is I knew more than my Aunt's children. I knew my/our Grandma, they wouldn't give her a chance due to reasons I can almost understand now. I never heard Grandma say one bad thing about my Mom's Dad. BUT my cousins of Mom's sisters have him a white knight on a white horse and Grandma the villain. Unfortunately they don't believe any of the documents even post cards written by Grandma to her Mom 1910 describing what may have been the last time she saw "ole" Jess. My Mom was 10 months old at that time and Grandma gave her to a family to take care of her so she wouldn't end up in the childrens home. Unfortunately I can't find anyone alive that remembers anything about the people Mom stayed with. It doesn't end here as my husband learned he was adopted by his father at the age of 55 so now we don't have a clue "who" we are. His biological Mom kept him at birth. Not a word of this was spoken when he was young and I feel I would be wrong not to include this tiny little face saving fact his mother didn't tell. Tootsie Shoemaker -- "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulders....and your hand over my mouth."