It's the Bisesquicentennial, which is probably why no one ever uses it <smile>. --- Kurt Pickering <pickeringenealogist_pickering@hotmail.com> wrote: > Haviong noted in a recent Wilmer Kerns posting > that 2004 is Hampshire > County's 250th year ... > > Gee, what's 250? 100 is a centennial, 200 is a > bicentennial, 150 is a > sequicentennial - what's 250? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

Carol, I replied to you privately-- your email address. Wilmer -----Original Message----- From: carol flanagan [mailto:cflanagn@ruralnet.org] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:03 PM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Flanagan Mr. Kerns, I have written you several times concerning the location of the Flanagan land on Patterson Creek.I still am not sure of the location.Would you perhaps know anything about the Samuel Flanagan family? Regards, Carol Flanagan

Carol, I don't know if this will help or not but I have a deed that states: "corner of said Siple, and the Flanagan land and also the beginning corner of the original survey, thence with the first line and line of VanMeter and Flanagan ---------excpeting and reserving -----land ----conveyed by Byron H. Kiser to Sarah F. Flanagan by deed dated Dec. 3, 1914 and recorded in Deed Book 34 at page 349, Mineral County Records and ""hickory tree pointer now marked at the lower end of Charles Deremer's bottom below his house and running thence leaving Deremer and with the J. Floren Bowers line calling for said Flanagan land ---" I do know that this land is at Rt. 46, along Patterson Creek, in Mineral County, about 2 miles west of Fort Ashby. We own the land that this deed was made for, and the Deremers and Bowers families still own the land mentioned. I am not positive which section in this area was the Flanagan land. I fyou are familiar with the area, I could give you directions to the vicinity of it and where i think it sounds like the tract is located. Sharon Malone Knotts

Mr. Kerns, I have written you several times concerning the location of the Flanagan land on Patterson Creek.I still am not sure of the location.Would you perhaps know anything about the Samuel Flanagan family? Regards, Carol Flanagan

Zorina, Unlike the Frederick County Pughs, most of the Hampshire County Pughs do/did not descend from the Ellis Pugh branch. I have no information on the relationship between the Sale family and the Pughs. Wilmer L. Kerns -----Original Message----- From: Zorina A. Chaffin [mailto:zorina@visuallink.com] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 4:24 AM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] request to Dr. Kerns, et al. It is my understanding that the Hampshire County Pughs had some minimal interaction with the Sale family located in Hampshire and Frederick County. Do you have any info? Zorina (Sale) Chaffin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] request to Dr. Kerns, et al. > Dr Kerns, I sent you the following email early in December, but as you have not answered I am trying to reach you through this list that I know you belong to and answer. > I also hope that anyone else on the list that can help me with actual Pugh or Jenkins locations will please share with me what they. > " Recently I discovered that my Ohio Jenkins were related to the Pughs, and all had come from Hampshire Co and the area around Winchester, VA. Misael (later spelled Michael)[Jacob, Evan] and wife Rachel Pugh Jenkins [Thomas, Jesse, Thomas, Ellis] joined the Concord meeting in Colerain Twp, Belmont Co, Ohio 19th 2nd Mo, 1802, with their certificate from Hopewell MM in Frederick Co, Va dated 9th da 6Mo 1802. With Michael and Rachel came their children Ann, Jacob, Lydia, Betty, Jane, Caty (or Catharine), Pugh and John. The Concord Meeting was the first Quaker meeting west of the Allegheny Mts, and had been established, in large part, by Quakers from the Hopewell Meeting north of Winchester, Va. (I have photos of The Concord meeting house, if you'd like to see it....we were there last month and although it is no longer is use, is in good shape. If you're interested in this Ohio branch of the family, I would also be more than happy to share my findings and rese! > arch with you. This includes a copy of the book written by Ellis Pugh, our first emigrant to the New World.) > This spring I plan a trip to Hampshire and Frederick Cos, and wonder if you can 'point' me toward any actual locations that would have family ties. I believe the early Quakers met at Jacob Pugh's home, but can't seem to find it's location. Do you know? For me, genealogy is far more than just names and dates on a piece of paper.....it is people's lives, and how and where they lived is a big part of that to me, so I always like to 'experience' the places my various family members would have visited, worshiped and lived. I'm hoping that you, as an expert on the area, will have some wonderful suggestions for me! > As an interesting aside, many of my paternal lines were Quakers, arriving in Chester County, PA with Wm Penn, or not long after. My own particular line was there till the 1850s when they emigrated on to Ohio......now I find that these Pughs of mine also originated in Chester County ...what a small world it was in those days, and odd to find that so many of my ancestors all started out in the same area, only to 'meet up', perhaps generations later, in a different place! > Thanks you for any help you may be able to give me....and, I'm very much looking forward to the trip. One of my maternal lines were the Berrys, one of whom established Berryville, so I'll be revisiting there, too. I was lucky enough to participate in the Bicentennial celebration for Berryville, several years ago, and 'represent' the Berry family....what fun!" > So, Dr. Kerns and any list member with info, please share with me, will you? > Sandra Ferguson > >

It is my understanding that the Hampshire County Pughs had some minimal interaction with the Sale family located in Hampshire and Frederick County. Do you have any info? Zorina (Sale) Chaffin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@ntelos.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] request to Dr. Kerns, et al. > Dr Kerns, I sent you the following email early in December, but as you have not answered I am trying to reach you through this list that I know you belong to and answer. > I also hope that anyone else on the list that can help me with actual Pugh or Jenkins locations will please share with me what they. > " Recently I discovered that my Ohio Jenkins were related to the Pughs, and all had come from Hampshire Co and the area around Winchester, VA. Misael (later spelled Michael)[Jacob, Evan] and wife Rachel Pugh Jenkins [Thomas, Jesse, Thomas, Ellis] joined the Concord meeting in Colerain Twp, Belmont Co, Ohio 19th 2nd Mo, 1802, with their certificate from Hopewell MM in Frederick Co, Va dated 9th da 6Mo 1802. With Michael and Rachel came their children Ann, Jacob, Lydia, Betty, Jane, Caty (or Catharine), Pugh and John. The Concord Meeting was the first Quaker meeting west of the Allegheny Mts, and had been established, in large part, by Quakers from the Hopewell Meeting north of Winchester, Va. (I have photos of The Concord meeting house, if you'd like to see it....we were there last month and although it is no longer is use, is in good shape. If you're interested in this Ohio branch of the family, I would also be more than happy to share my findings and rese! > arch with you. This includes a copy of the book written by Ellis Pugh, our first emigrant to the New World.) > This spring I plan a trip to Hampshire and Frederick Cos, and wonder if you can 'point' me toward any actual locations that would have family ties. I believe the early Quakers met at Jacob Pugh's home, but can't seem to find it's location. Do you know? For me, genealogy is far more than just names and dates on a piece of paper.....it is people's lives, and how and where they lived is a big part of that to me, so I always like to 'experience' the places my various family members would have visited, worshiped and lived. I'm hoping that you, as an expert on the area, will have some wonderful suggestions for me! > As an interesting aside, many of my paternal lines were Quakers, arriving in Chester County, PA with Wm Penn, or not long after. My own particular line was there till the 1850s when they emigrated on to Ohio......now I find that these Pughs of mine also originated in Chester County ...what a small world it was in those days, and odd to find that so many of my ancestors all started out in the same area, only to 'meet up', perhaps generations later, in a different place! > Thanks you for any help you may be able to give me....and, I'm very much looking forward to the trip. One of my maternal lines were the Berrys, one of whom established Berryville, so I'll be revisiting there, too. I was lucky enough to participate in the Bicentennial celebration for Berryville, several years ago, and 'represent' the Berry family....what fun!" > So, Dr. Kerns and any list member with info, please share with me, will you? > Sandra Ferguson > >

Dear Sandra, I apologize for not making a timely answer to your request for information. The high volume of all forms of mail exceeds my ability to respond to each one. Priority is given to those whose questions coincide with information already in my hands, and I seem to procrastinate on requests that require additional research. I have seen a copy of Ellis Pugh's publication, translated from Welsh into English as "Salutation to the Britons." My book, "Settlements and First Families of Back Creek Valley, 1730-1830" provides information on several of the families you are researching. A map on page 99, shows the location of Jacob Jenkins' residence in 1749, at Owen Thomas' house near the intersection of U. S. Rt. 50 and Back Creek in Frederick County. He later received a 252-acre Fairfax grant in 1766 on Owens Ridge of Bear Garden Mountain. He owned other properties, including a grant on Huntsman Branch of the Great Cacapon River, and land on Timber Ridge. The Eugene M. Scheel historical map of Frederick County is in error when it designates the location of the Bear Garden Quaker Meeting on the Timber Ridge location. I won't take time to discuss the pros and cons for the argument. The location of Jesse Pugh's residence in Pughtown, Frederick County, has been pinpointed and designated on the same map (p. 99). I am not able to determine the exact location of Jacob Pugh's house without further research. You will find all the land records in Hampshire and Frederick Counties to be extant in the respective courthouses. The Northern Neck records preceded the County records and should not be overlooked. The Stewart Bell Jr. Archives in the Handley Regional Library will be an important place to research. I recommend that you first review the literature to find what is already known, especially my Back Creek book, if you have not seen it. There is a section on the Jenkins family and a chapter on the Ellis Pugh (1656-1718) branch. I agree that genealogy should be more than a collection of names and dates. You will be visiting Hampshire County at a very interesting time in the history of the County. In 2004 it will be celebrating its 250th year as a County. A book has just been completed, which should be available in March. Wilmer L. Kerns -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson [mailto:ferg@ntelos.net] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:57 AM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] request to Dr. Kerns, et al. Dr Kerns, I sent you the following email early in December, but as you have not answered I am trying to reach you through this list that I know you belong to and answer. I also hope that anyone else on the list that can help me with actual Pugh or Jenkins locations will please share with me what they. " Recently I discovered that my Ohio Jenkins were related to the Pughs, and all had come from Hampshire Co and the area around Winchester, VA. Misael (later spelled Michael)[Jacob, Evan] and wife Rachel Pugh Jenkins [Thomas, Jesse, Thomas, Ellis] joined the Concord meeting in Colerain Twp, Belmont Co, Ohio 19th 2nd Mo, 1802, with their certificate from Hopewell MM in Frederick Co, Va dated 9th da 6Mo 1802. With Michael and Rachel came their children Ann, Jacob, Lydia, Betty, Jane, Caty (or Catharine), Pugh and John. The Concord Meeting was the first Quaker meeting west of the Allegheny Mts, and had been established, in large part, by Quakers from the Hopewell Meeting north of Winchester, Va. (I have photos of The Concord meeting house, if you'd like to see it....we were there last month and although it is no longer is use, is in good shape. If you're interested in this Ohio branch of the family, I would also be more than happy to share my findings and rese! arch with you. This includes a copy of the book written by Ellis Pugh, our first emigrant to the New World.) This spring I plan a trip to Hampshire and Frederick Cos, and wonder if you can 'point' me toward any actual locations that would have family ties. I believe the early Quakers met at Jacob Pugh's home, but can't seem to find it's location. Do you know? For me, genealogy is far more than just names and dates on a piece of paper.....it is people's lives, and how and where they lived is a big part of that to me, so I always like to 'experience' the places my various family members would have visited, worshiped and lived. I'm hoping that you, as an expert on the area, will have some wonderful suggestions for me! As an interesting aside, many of my paternal lines were Quakers, arriving in Chester County, PA with Wm Penn, or not long after. My own particular line was there till the 1850s when they emigrated on to Ohio......now I find that these Pughs of mine also originated in Chester County ...what a small world it was in those days, and odd to find that so many of my ancestors all started out in the same area, only to 'meet up', perhaps generations later, in a different place! Thanks you for any help you may be able to give me....and, I'm very much looking forward to the trip. One of my maternal lines were the Berrys, one of whom established Berryville, so I'll be revisiting there, too. I was lucky enough to participate in the Bicentennial celebration for Berryville, several years ago, and 'represent' the Berry family....what fun!" So, Dr. Kerns and any list member with info, please share with me, will you? Sandra Ferguson

Dr Kerns, I sent you the following email early in December, but as you have not answered I am trying to reach you through this list that I know you belong to and answer. I also hope that anyone else on the list that can help me with actual Pugh or Jenkins locations will please share with me what they. " Recently I discovered that my Ohio Jenkins were related to the Pughs, and all had come from Hampshire Co and the area around Winchester, VA. Misael (later spelled Michael)[Jacob, Evan] and wife Rachel Pugh Jenkins [Thomas, Jesse, Thomas, Ellis] joined the Concord meeting in Colerain Twp, Belmont Co, Ohio 19th 2nd Mo, 1802, with their certificate from Hopewell MM in Frederick Co, Va dated 9th da 6Mo 1802. With Michael and Rachel came their children Ann, Jacob, Lydia, Betty, Jane, Caty (or Catharine), Pugh and John. The Concord Meeting was the first Quaker meeting west of the Allegheny Mts, and had been established, in large part, by Quakers from the Hopewell Meeting north of Winchester, Va. (I have photos of The Concord meeting house, if you'd like to see it....we were there last month and although it is no longer is use, is in good shape. If you're interested in this Ohio branch of the family, I would also be more than happy to share my findings and rese! arch with you. This includes a copy of the book written by Ellis Pugh, our first emigrant to the New World.) This spring I plan a trip to Hampshire and Frederick Cos, and wonder if you can 'point' me toward any actual locations that would have family ties. I believe the early Quakers met at Jacob Pugh's home, but can't seem to find it's location. Do you know? For me, genealogy is far more than just names and dates on a piece of paper.....it is people's lives, and how and where they lived is a big part of that to me, so I always like to 'experience' the places my various family members would have visited, worshiped and lived. I'm hoping that you, as an expert on the area, will have some wonderful suggestions for me! As an interesting aside, many of my paternal lines were Quakers, arriving in Chester County, PA with Wm Penn, or not long after. My own particular line was there till the 1850s when they emigrated on to Ohio......now I find that these Pughs of mine also originated in Chester County ...what a small world it was in those days, and odd to find that so many of my ancestors all started out in the same area, only to 'meet up', perhaps generations later, in a different place! Thanks you for any help you may be able to give me....and, I'm very much looking forward to the trip. One of my maternal lines were the Berrys, one of whom established Berryville, so I'll be revisiting there, too. I was lucky enough to participate in the Bicentennial celebration for Berryville, several years ago, and 'represent' the Berry family....what fun!" So, Dr. Kerns and any list member with info, please share with me, will you? Sandra Ferguson

Ahhh! I thought maybe it was one of the new bldgs at the Institution. Thanks. Cheryl At 10:07 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Cheryl, > >It's the new addition to the old Hill house. It sits where Pancake >Chevrolet used to be and across from the old Fire Hall. > >Jane > >At 08:48 PM 10-12-03, you wrote: >>At 02:42 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Jane Ailes wrote: >> >> >be picked up in February at Taggart Hall in Romney. Be sure to include the >> >> >>I *know* I'll feel like a fool when I hear the answer, but I'm be-fogged >>tonight, so -- Which one's Taggart? >> >>Cheryl >>*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* >>Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) >> >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ >>http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ >>http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC) > > >

In a message dated 10-Dec-03 6:55:44 AM Mountain Standard Time, wkerns4@comcast.net writes: This is an update on the cemetery project. Wayne has responded to those who contacted him for an accountability of the project. He acknowledged that the project was abandoned when he moved to Florida. He stated that his wife's health "made a turn for the worse," and he decided to move to a warmer climate in Florida. If anyone talks or emails Wayne, please send best regards to him and his wife. It must be a very difficult time in their lives. Regards, Diane Wolford

Cheryl, It's the new addition to the old Hill house. It sits where Pancake Chevrolet used to be and across from the old Fire Hall. Jane At 08:48 PM 10-12-03, you wrote: >At 02:42 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Jane Ailes wrote: > > >be picked up in February at Taggart Hall in Romney. Be sure to include the > > >I *know* I'll feel like a fool when I hear the answer, but I'm be-fogged >tonight, so -- Which one's Taggart? > >Cheryl >*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* >Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ >http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ >http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

At 02:42 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Jane Ailes wrote: >be picked up in February at Taggart Hall in Romney. Be sure to include the I *know* I'll feel like a fool when I hear the answer, but I'm be-fogged tonight, so -- Which one's Taggart? Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

Kathy, To answer your question, I see that Jane Ailes has just posted the information that is needed to order the book. The title is Hampshire County, West Virginia, 1754-2004. Unlike most books in this class, it has a complete name index and a general index. It will be bound in hardcover, 8 1/2" x 11". There are 94 chapters (2-4 pages each) plus numerous pages of "box topics" and photographs. Approximately 75 "authors" or writers participated in the project. As stated in the preface, the book presents a cross-section of people and events over a 250-year period. It presents fresh ideas and material rather than rehashing what others have said in publications of the past. No single volume can present a comprehensive history of a County-- all there is to know. The book contains excellent discussions of Colonial history, which has been neglected in Hampshire County. It deals with all the wars and their impact upon Hampshire County residents. The topics are too numerous to mention, but to name a few: history of roads, the fine arts and artisians, profiles on politicians, a writeup on each of the counties that were formed from Hampshire, mills, the forts, some industries, school history, medicine and doctors, a brief history of the major communities, agriculture and orchards, history of newspapers in the County, the court system and the jail, railroads, and geology, geography, ecology, plants and animals, and a chapter that explains how West Virginia became a State in 1863. Also, the book contains biographical information on selected individuals, and I must tell you that the publication is friendly toward those doing genealogical work, who want to know more about the area. At one time, genealogical research was little more than the collection of names and dates and relationships. Today, there is an emphasis on understanding the historical context, as well as evidence and documentation. The book is going to the printer now and should be ready for delivery no later than March of 2004. We believe the book will be a first-class publication, but you will be the judge. A book like this would easily retail for $45.00. A special pre-publication price was considered, but a decision was made to set a reduced price for everyone at $29.95 (see Jane's instructions for ordering.) Last but not least, yours truly served not only as co-editor with Roberta Munske, but he wrote a number of the chapters. I know that many of you would like to know what names are in the book. At some point we might consider placing the index on Cheryl's Hampshire website and/or other websites, but that is premature for now. Jane can tell you how many individual names are in the book, as she did a superb job creating the indexes. Wilmer L. Kerns -----Original Message----- From: Redrabbitt@aol.com [mailto:Redrabbitt@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:11 PM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] update on the cemetery inscription project Wilmer thank you for your involvement and diplomacy on this matter. Someone was made mention in the past about a book for the 250 anniversary of HC........I think this is other than the cemetery info. Any word on that? What about any submissions of photos etc? Also, any set dates for the events that are to be held. Need to mark my calender to be there. Thanks, Kathy Heare Watts

The book for the 250th celebration is about to go to the printers! It will be available in February 2004. Advance orders are welcome at this time. To order, write: Roberta Munske/Hampshire 250 Book HC 64, Box 39 Yellow Spring, WV 26865 Make check to HCCVB; cost is $29.95, plus 6% WV sales tax for WV residents. Add $4.00 per copy if you want the book shipped to you. Otherwise they can be picked up in February at Taggart Hall in Romney. Be sure to include the name, address and phone number for everyone purchasing a book, so Roberta can get in touch when the books are available. There will also be a special limited numbered edition of 30 copies to be hand-bound by Mount Pleasant Bookbinders, with leather quarter-binding and slip case; it will sell for $175.00. If anyone is interested in this, please call Roberta to order (304) 856-3019.

Wilmer thank you for your involvement and diplomacy on this matter. Someone was made mention in the past about a book for the 250 anniversary of HC........I think this is other than the cemetery info. Any word on that? What about any submissions of photos etc? Also, any set dates for the events that are to be held. Need to mark my calender to be there. Thanks, Kathy Heare Watts

Cheryl, Thanks for the offer. I am forwarding your email to Roberta Munske who will discuss it and get back to you either way it goes. Wilmer -----Original Message----- From: singhals [mailto:singhals@erols.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:44 AM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] update on the cemetery inscription project I offered it to Wayne, and I'll offer it again here in public: The Hampshire County GenWeb will host those cemetery pages. The Committee may claim or retain any copyright, or they may place it in the public domain. I neither seek nor want ownership of the material -- I'm simply offering it a free home. Wilmer, Jane, if one of you will pass this offer along to whoever is making the decisions, I'd appreciate it. Cheryl At 08:57 AM 12/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: >This is an update on the cemetery project. Wayne has responded to those who >contacted him for an accountability of the project. He acknowledged that the >project was abandoned when he moved to Florida. He stated that his wife's >health "made a turn for the worse," and he decided to move to a warmer >climate in Florida. The reason why he didn't respond to the recent "noise" >on the WVHAMP-L is that he had unsubscribed from the Listserve. Arrangements >are now being made to transfer the files from his former website to an >authority in Hampshire County, probably the 250th Committee. Also, he has >consented to return the GPS to the Historical Society. As far as I am >concerned, Wayne has cleared himself by coming "clean," and I wish him well. > >Although I was reluctant to bring about the confrontation that we just >witnessed, it has saved the cemetery files. Wayne told me that the files >would have been automatically deleted from the website within three months >by default. He had not saved them on his computer; he had no further >interest in them; they would have gone to an electronic heaven. > >Cheryl, the answer to your question about the Indian Mound cemetery not >containing information on burials post-1950 was answered below. Wayne had >copied from an outdated list. There are many errors, omissions, duplications >and various kinds of problems with the information that was placed on the >website. You should verify any information that you use. > >Roberta Munske (of Hampshire County 250th Committee) has informed me that >the project will continue, but will not be completed in 2004. It is more >important to produce a quality work than to rush something to print. A >project director will be selected and a team of volunteers. We are going to >clean up some of the information that Wayne placed on the website. At some >point I imagine that it will become available on the Historic Hampshire >website, with a disclaimer that the information is incomplete and may >contain errors in its present form. If Roberta Munske is involved in >anything, it will be a first-class operation. > >I will conclude by saying that I have not been asked to be a spokesperson >for anyone (at this point), nor am I a candidate for the position of project >leader. I speak as one who is a long-term student of cemetery history in >Hampshire County; as a senior researcher who has commented on numerous >subjects on this List before a cemetery project existed; as one who has a >deep interest in getting it right. My expertise will likely be used as a >consultant or advisor, as well as a behind-the-scenes editor. > >Please stand by for periodic reports on the progress of this project as it >is reshaped. I would not unsubscribe from the List. > >Wilmer L. Kerns > >-----Original Message----- >From: singhals [mailto:singhals@erols.com] >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:48 PM >To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [WVHAMPSH-L] Hampshire County 250th Cemeterying > >At 04:35 PM 12/06/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>I received no recent response/update from Wayne McGahuey on the cemetery >>project. I had sent him a list several months ago of some of the problems >>that needed to be corrected on the website. Data are not complete in the >>larger cemeteries, such as Indian Mound, Bloomery Presbyterian, Ebenezer, >>Timber Ridge Christian, and more. Many of these inscriptions were copied >>from outdated or dated books or lists, such as Ralph Triplett's books, Dan >>Oates' manuscript, Iris Dale Kline's records, etc. I realize there were >>others who contributed info., such as Izetta Barbour (the Leatherman >>cemetery is not yet online). >> > >Having an hour to spend at the public library, I used their computer and >got into this website again. > >Among the issues with Indian Mound, I see no post 1950 burials. Why were >these omitted when other cemeteries have even more recent burials reported? > > >Cheryl > > > > > >*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* >Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ >http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ >http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC) > > > > >

I offered it to Wayne, and I'll offer it again here in public: The Hampshire County GenWeb will host those cemetery pages. The Committee may claim or retain any copyright, or they may place it in the public domain. I neither seek nor want ownership of the material -- I'm simply offering it a free home. Wilmer, Jane, if one of you will pass this offer along to whoever is making the decisions, I'd appreciate it. Cheryl At 08:57 AM 12/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: >This is an update on the cemetery project. Wayne has responded to those who >contacted him for an accountability of the project. He acknowledged that the >project was abandoned when he moved to Florida. He stated that his wife's >health "made a turn for the worse," and he decided to move to a warmer >climate in Florida. The reason why he didn't respond to the recent "noise" >on the WVHAMP-L is that he had unsubscribed from the Listserve. Arrangements >are now being made to transfer the files from his former website to an >authority in Hampshire County, probably the 250th Committee. Also, he has >consented to return the GPS to the Historical Society. As far as I am >concerned, Wayne has cleared himself by coming "clean," and I wish him well. > >Although I was reluctant to bring about the confrontation that we just >witnessed, it has saved the cemetery files. Wayne told me that the files >would have been automatically deleted from the website within three months >by default. He had not saved them on his computer; he had no further >interest in them; they would have gone to an electronic heaven. > >Cheryl, the answer to your question about the Indian Mound cemetery not >containing information on burials post-1950 was answered below. Wayne had >copied from an outdated list. There are many errors, omissions, duplications >and various kinds of problems with the information that was placed on the >website. You should verify any information that you use. > >Roberta Munske (of Hampshire County 250th Committee) has informed me that >the project will continue, but will not be completed in 2004. It is more >important to produce a quality work than to rush something to print. A >project director will be selected and a team of volunteers. We are going to >clean up some of the information that Wayne placed on the website. At some >point I imagine that it will become available on the Historic Hampshire >website, with a disclaimer that the information is incomplete and may >contain errors in its present form. If Roberta Munske is involved in >anything, it will be a first-class operation. > >I will conclude by saying that I have not been asked to be a spokesperson >for anyone (at this point), nor am I a candidate for the position of project >leader. I speak as one who is a long-term student of cemetery history in >Hampshire County; as a senior researcher who has commented on numerous >subjects on this List before a cemetery project existed; as one who has a >deep interest in getting it right. My expertise will likely be used as a >consultant or advisor, as well as a behind-the-scenes editor. > >Please stand by for periodic reports on the progress of this project as it >is reshaped. I would not unsubscribe from the List. > >Wilmer L. Kerns > >-----Original Message----- >From: singhals [mailto:singhals@erols.com] >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:48 PM >To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [WVHAMPSH-L] Hampshire County 250th Cemeterying > >At 04:35 PM 12/06/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>I received no recent response/update from Wayne McGahuey on the cemetery >>project. I had sent him a list several months ago of some of the problems >>that needed to be corrected on the website. Data are not complete in the >>larger cemeteries, such as Indian Mound, Bloomery Presbyterian, Ebenezer, >>Timber Ridge Christian, and more. Many of these inscriptions were copied >>from outdated or dated books or lists, such as Ralph Triplett's books, Dan >>Oates' manuscript, Iris Dale Kline's records, etc. I realize there were >>others who contributed info., such as Izetta Barbour (the Leatherman >>cemetery is not yet online). >> > >Having an hour to spend at the public library, I used their computer and >got into this website again. > >Among the issues with Indian Mound, I see no post 1950 burials. Why were >these omitted when other cemeteries have even more recent burials reported? > > >Cheryl > > > > > >*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* >Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ >http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ >http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC) > > > > >

At 09:47 PM 12/09/2003 -0500, you wrote: >At 04:35 PM 12/06/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>I received no recent response/update from Wayne McGahuey on the cemetery >>project. I had sent him a list several months ago of some of the problems >>that needed to be corrected on the website. Data are not complete in the >>larger cemeteries, such as Indian Mound, Bloomery Presbyterian, Ebenezer, >>Timber Ridge Christian, and more. Many of these inscriptions were copied >>from outdated or dated books or lists, such as Ralph Triplett's books, Dan >>Oates' manuscript, Iris Dale Kline's records, etc. I realize there were >>others who contributed info., such as Izetta Barbour (the Leatherman >>cemetery is not yet online). >> > >Having an hour to spend at the public library, I used their computer and >got into this website again. > >Among the issues with Indian Mound, I see no post 1950 burials. Why were >these omitted when other cemeteries have even more recent burials reported? > > I sit corrected. (g) I do see a couple post-1950 burials. Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

This is an update on the cemetery project. Wayne has responded to those who contacted him for an accountability of the project. He acknowledged that the project was abandoned when he moved to Florida. He stated that his wife's health "made a turn for the worse," and he decided to move to a warmer climate in Florida. The reason why he didn't respond to the recent "noise" on the WVHAMP-L is that he had unsubscribed from the Listserve. Arrangements are now being made to transfer the files from his former website to an authority in Hampshire County, probably the 250th Committee. Also, he has consented to return the GPS to the Historical Society. As far as I am concerned, Wayne has cleared himself by coming "clean," and I wish him well. Although I was reluctant to bring about the confrontation that we just witnessed, it has saved the cemetery files. Wayne told me that the files would have been automatically deleted from the website within three months by default. He had not saved them on his computer; he had no further interest in them; they would have gone to an electronic heaven. Cheryl, the answer to your question about the Indian Mound cemetery not containing information on burials post-1950 was answered below. Wayne had copied from an outdated list. There are many errors, omissions, duplications and various kinds of problems with the information that was placed on the website. You should verify any information that you use. Roberta Munske (of Hampshire County 250th Committee) has informed me that the project will continue, but will not be completed in 2004. It is more important to produce a quality work than to rush something to print. A project director will be selected and a team of volunteers. We are going to clean up some of the information that Wayne placed on the website. At some point I imagine that it will become available on the Historic Hampshire website, with a disclaimer that the information is incomplete and may contain errors in its present form. If Roberta Munske is involved in anything, it will be a first-class operation. I will conclude by saying that I have not been asked to be a spokesperson for anyone (at this point), nor am I a candidate for the position of project leader. I speak as one who is a long-term student of cemetery history in Hampshire County; as a senior researcher who has commented on numerous subjects on this List before a cemetery project existed; as one who has a deep interest in getting it right. My expertise will likely be used as a consultant or advisor, as well as a behind-the-scenes editor. Please stand by for periodic reports on the progress of this project as it is reshaped. I would not unsubscribe from the List. Wilmer L. Kerns -----Original Message----- From: singhals [mailto:singhals@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:48 PM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVHAMPSH-L] Hampshire County 250th Cemeterying At 04:35 PM 12/06/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I received no recent response/update from Wayne McGahuey on the cemetery >project. I had sent him a list several months ago of some of the problems >that needed to be corrected on the website. Data are not complete in the >larger cemeteries, such as Indian Mound, Bloomery Presbyterian, Ebenezer, >Timber Ridge Christian, and more. Many of these inscriptions were copied >from outdated or dated books or lists, such as Ralph Triplett's books, Dan >Oates' manuscript, Iris Dale Kline's records, etc. I realize there were >others who contributed info., such as Izetta Barbour (the Leatherman >cemetery is not yet online). > Having an hour to spend at the public library, I used their computer and got into this website again. Among the issues with Indian Mound, I see no post 1950 burials. Why were these omitted when other cemeteries have even more recent burials reported? Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

Well, Cheryl, that's a (good) question you'll probably never get an answer to since Wayne has departed with no warning. singhals wrote: >...Among the issues with Indian Mound, I see no post 1950 burials. Why were >these omitted when other cemeteries have even more recent burials reported? > >