Right. I see there is a town named Conococheague a few miles north of Williamsport. I was quoting the book below which said that Conogogee was "now" (1928) called Williamsport. I guess those old names never die. Anyway, sounds like the area of interest has been narrowed down considerably. See the book below for lots of interesting local references re early MD and VA towns, roads, troop movements, etc. during the Revolutionary era and before. Grove, William Jarboe. History of Carrollton Manor, Frederick County, Maryland Frederick, Md.: Marken & Bielfeld, 1928 --- Dan Harris <DanlHarris@cox.net> wrote: > there is a Burkittsville SE of there, too. > > Conococheague Creek is like South Branch, lots > of big loops in the river > valley. Runs from north to south and empties > into the North Branch of the > Potomac at Williamsport. The town of > Conococheague is right on Rt 40 > between Spickler and Huyett. I have heard of > Ft Bradford, but don't know > where it is. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genie [mailto:genielists@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:48 AM > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] CONEGOGEE > > > As the old saw says, the only dumb question is > the one NOT asked <smile>. > > What was once called Conogogee (Conigogegh, > etc.) > is now called Williamsport, a town just outside > Hagerstown, a few miles south of the PA border, > in what is now Washington Co., MD. (A creek of > the same name might well show up in nearby PA, > though.) This Washington Co. was created from > Frederick Co., MD in 1776 and was named for - > who > else - George Washington. > > I believe "Province of Mayland" in your data > should read "Province of Maryland". Can you > check your source on that? > > A Horatio Sharp was Gov'r of MD ca 1760s. > > In short, I think you should probably be > looking > in the area of Williamsport, in what is now > Washington Co., MD. > > By the way, there is a Frederick, MD in > Frederick > Co. and also a Fredericktown in Cecil Co. MD. > But I am pretty sure it was the one in > Frederick > Co. that was referred to as Frederick Town in > the > old days. > > > --- John & Diane Kleinke <kleinke@thesurf.com> > wrote: > > Hi to All,, > > I live in Wisconsin and have never been to > WV. > > so anyone, please, don't think my questions > are > > really awfully dumb. > > I have been trying to find out where my > > 5thGgrand was born and I think I may be > looking > > in the wrong place. In a copy of a patent > for > > a Matthias Purgett dated 1684 and updated > every > > once in a while till 1738 at London. Now > > registered in the Province of Mayland, > > Frtederick County after being surveyed in > 1754. > > Now my 5th Great says he was born in 1754 > neer > > Frederick Town, Md.. on the Conegochiege > Manor. > > On the 1751 map, I found a Conegogee Creek > but > > in Pennsylvania, north of Williams Ferry.. > > Streight south of there in Md or Va in the > town > > Winchester with old name Frederick Town. > > I have been looking in the Conococheague > > Hundred and in Wash. Co., Md. with no avail.. > > Should I be looking in the area around > > Winchester? Or keep trying in Frederick Md. > or > > close to Haggerstown? Even on this 1751 map > > the lines of Md and Va are kind of fuzzy at > > this point. > > Now the next reference I find is that a > George > > Burgett in 1760 is handling all the affairs > of > > deceased Matthias Purgett/Burgettt. I also > > find a George Purgett listed in a letter to > > Horacio Sharp as living outside Frederick and > > taking his wagon apart and driving off his > > horses so he doesn't have to hawl provisions > to > > the British at Fort Bradford. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing > online. > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Hi Robert Perry, Your information sounds as if it could tie into my husband's Perry lineage. Write me off line and I will give you his lineage. Elizabeth Whitten ewhitten2@comcast.net

I forgot to mention that Moorefield is just north of Petersburg which these landowners were said to be living near, per http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhardy/sbmanor.htm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

There are 25 Mudlick or Mud Lick Runs listed in WV by the USGS. One is near Shinnston in Harrison Co. and one, on the Old Fields 7.5 map, is just north of Moorefield, several miles south of Romney. (It is in both Hampshire and Hardy Cos.) See the USGS's GNIS site for more: http://geonames.usgs.gov/gnishome.html Use the Show Feature Location option on results page to see maps. Your guess re Arby=Arbaugh sounds good - probably just an "alternate" spelling - but you probably need more info. There are Arbaughs in the early censuses of VA (Rockingham Co., Jefferson Co., e.g. in 1810). --- Jeanne Crews <jeannecrews@comcast.net> wrote: > After looking at Sara Patton's list of South > Branch Manor landowners at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhardy/sbmanor.htm > (thanks, Neil!), I found a > Thomas "Arby" along Mudlick Run. Does anyone > recognize this guy? Could he > have been an Arbaugh? And where is Mudlick Run? > Jeanne __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Hello listers, I have a Michael Perry who owned and opperated a flourmill on the South Branch of the Potomac River about 1805. I found him as Michael Perrey on the 1820 VA census in Hampshire Co. and he was listed as a manufacturer. I also found his father in-law Thomas Barthelow in the same census listed as in Commerce. So I assume that Michael manufactured flour and Thomas transported it to a city. This is as far back as I have gotten on this line. Has anyone heard of these guys? Where can I find tax records etc.? Also Michael married 1) Rachael Bartholow July 24, 1813 in Allegany co., MD 2) Elizabeth Jones January 09, 1818 in Allegany co., MD Thomas married Ann Nelson Thanks, Bob Perry ( raider6066@yahoo.com ) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online

What was once called Conogogee (Conigogegh, etc.) is now called Williamsport, a town just outside Hagerstown, a few miles south of the PA border, in what is now Washington Co., MD. (A creek of the same name might well show up in nearby PA, though.) This Washington Co. was created from Frederick Co., MD in 1776 and was named for - who else - George Washington. ------- Just a small note, if you are looking at very old maps, Hagerstown (Maryland) may be listed as Elizabethstown or Elizabethtown or Elizabeth's Town - I am not sure of the exact spelling, but I have read that was the first name used (Elizabeth being the daughter of Hager) but later the town use "Mr." Hager's name and changed to Hagerstown.

After looking at Sara Patton's list of South Branch Manor landowners at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhardy/sbmanor.htm (thanks, Neil!), I found a Thomas "Arby" along Mudlick Run. Does anyone recognize this guy? Could he have been an Arbaugh? And where is Mudlick Run? Jeanne

In a message dated 2/13/2004 9:23:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, FamResearcher@aol.com writes: I do not have an exact map but I know from looking at the mircofilmed original lists, that at times they noted place names. Generally the place names in the Upper District included locations that are now in Mineral County. The lower district generally included places that are in Hampshire County today. The families I am interested in are at New Creek in the Upper District.>> Thanks, Phyllis, The book I was looking at just listed head of household, the personal taxables, and what dates they paid their taxes. Evidently it wasn't a census type, where the collector when door to door. It varied greatly. This is what I copied from the book: Hampshire county personal tax list: John Woolferd, 29 Sep 1791, 1 white male, 2 horses; John Woolford, 6 Jul 1792, 1 white male, 2 horses; John Wolford, 22 May 1794, no details; John Wolford, 19 Jun 1795, 2 white males, 4 horses; John Wolford, 28 Apr 1796, 2 white males, 3 horses; John Wolford, 25 Apr 1797, 1 white male, 3 horses; John Wolford, 2 Apr 1798, 1 white male, 4 horses; and John Woolford 10 July 1798, 1 white male, 2 horses (this was first time 2 John Wolford's are listed in Hampshire County; entry year of Maryland John Wolford?); Mathew Woolford, 10 Jul 1798, 1 white male (who is this?); John Wolford, 10 Mar 1799, 1 white male, 5 horses; and other John Wolford, no date, 1 white male, 2 horses. At this point, Hampshire county personal tax is divided into Upper/Western tax district and Lower/Eastern tax district. Upper/Western tax: 1800-1 male, 6 horses; 1801-1 male, 4 horses, 1 slave/servant; also lists Mathias Wolford, 1 male; 1802-1 male, 6 horses (taxed at 12 cents each); 1803-1 male, 6 horses, 1 slave/servent; 1804-1 male, 6 horses; 1805-2 males, 5 horses; 1806-2 males, 5 horses; 1807-none; 1808-no tax taken; 1809 onward had no John Wolfords listed in Upper district. Since John bought land in 1805 in Randolph county, there was something left behind in 1806 to be taxed. Where John was physically located in these years is currently unknown. It's also unclear the taxable meaning on slave: slave, indentured servant, hired hand? The Lower/Eastern district lists John Wolford also, mostly having 2 horses in years 1800-01; 3 horses in 1802-03; 4 horses in 1804; missing in 1805; 5 horses in 1806-07; 2 males, 6 horses in 1810; 1811, 2 males, 6 horses; and Henry Wolford having 1 horse. The later years continue to list John Wolford in Lower district, evidently the Maryland John. Affiliated families: Asbury, Ayres, Barker, Barnum, Bates, Bauder, Bowling, Briggs, Burton, Clark/Clarke, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Gardner, Geary, Goodale, Grim, Hall, Hardendorf, Harman, Harper, Hayes, Hurless, Keith, Marcy, Pier, Raney, Sawyer, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Summerfield, Tinkham, Vansant, Whitlam, Wilks, Wolford, Wood, Woolever Regards, Diane Wolford http://www.treelines.com

I do not have an exact map but I know from looking at the mircofilmed original lists, that at times they noted place names. Generally the place names in the Upper District included locations that are now in Mineral County. The lower district generally included places that are in Hampshire County today. The families I am interested in are at New Creek in the Upper District. Phyllis

Hi to All,, I live in Wisconsin and have never been to WV. so anyone, please, don't think my questions are really awfully dumb. I have been trying to find out where my 5thGgrand was born and I think I may be looking in the wrong place. In a copy of a patent for a Matthias Purgett dated 1684 and updated every once in a while till 1738 at London. Now registered in the Province of Mayland, Frtederick County after being surveyed in 1754. Now my 5th Great says he was born in 1754 neer Frederick Town, Md.. on the Conegochiege Manor. On the 1751 map, I found a Conegogee Creek but in Pennsylvania, north of Williams Ferry.. Streight south of there in Md or Va in the town Winchester with old name Frederick Town. I have been looking in the Conococheague Hundred and in Wash. Co., Md. with no avail.. Should I be looking in the area around Winchester? Or keep trying in Frederick Md. or close to Haggerstown? Even on this 1751 map the lines of Md and Va are kind of fuzzy at this point. Now the next reference I find is that a George Burgett in 1760 is handling all the affairs of deceased Matthias Purgett/Burgettt. I also find a George Purgett listed in a letter to Horacio Sharp as living outside Frederick and taking his wagon apart and driving off his horses so he doesn't have to hawl provisions to the British at Fort Bradford. I'm only asking opinions and ideas on where to go next. By the 1780's there are a least 1000 acreas of land in the Northern Neck/Lord Fairfax to more Purgett families. Sorry for the long post but you guys are great at givng ideas where to look. Two years ago, all I had was a name and with your help, I found Purgittsville. Diane

I forgot to mention the whole Mason-Dixon thing (1767), but you may not even WANT to go there! > > > --- John & Diane Kleinke <kleinke@thesurf.com> > wrote: > > Hi to All,, > > I live in Wisconsin and have never been to > WV. > > so anyone, please, don't think my questions > are > > really awfully dumb. > > I have been trying to find out where my > > 5thGgrand was born and I think I may be > looking > > in the wrong place. In a copy of a patent > for > > a Matthias Purgett dated 1684 and updated > every > > once in a while till 1738 at London. Now > > registered in the Province of Mayland, > > Frtederick County after being surveyed in > 1754. > > Now my 5th Great says he was born in 1754 > neer > > Frederick Town, Md.. on the Conegochiege > Manor. > > On the 1751 map, I found a Conegogee Creek > but > > in Pennsylvania, north of Williams Ferry.. > > Streight south of there in Md or Va in the > town > > Winchester with old name Frederick Town. > > I have been looking in the Conococheague > > Hundred and in Wash. Co., Md. with no avail.. > > Should I be looking in the area around > > Winchester? Or keep trying in Frederick Md. > or > > close to Haggerstown? Even on this 1751 map > > the lines of Md and Va are kind of fuzzy at > > this point. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Hi Pat, For Foley info, contact Jane Whitty at whittyfun@juno.com or contact me personally at kleinke@thesurf.com as my Purgitt family from Hampshire married into the Foley family. Hope this helps. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEFF CONNIE UNCAPHER" <cleminshaw@msn.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:02 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Foley > For Pat Foley: > Foley in EARLY RECORDS OF HAMPSHIRE COUNTY VIRGINIA by Sage and Jones > > 9-19-1798 Enoch and Stephen Thomas sold a parcel of land to Jacob High. Wit: > John Foley, William Foley. > > 1-4-1799 John High sold 2 parcels of land. Witnessed by John Foley, John > Foley Jr and Daniel Eller. > --------------------------------------- > In Fairfax Lands Taken Up 1788 to 1800 section... > 1799 John Foley - 300 acres on Long Ridge. > ---------------------------------- > In Hampshire Co. Census 1782 - 1784 (AH is census taker's initials).... > John Foley (AH) 8 - (AH) 9-1-2 > ------------------------------------- > In Marriage Bonds 1824-1828 section..... > Milley Foley to Solomon Moore, La.[lawful age?], Larkin C. Kelley bondsman. > 12-10-1828. > > My index shows a Sarah Foley on page 123 and I have read that page 3 times > without finding her. Maybe someone who also has this book can look for the > entry. > > Not much to go on, but you know Foleys were in the area. Good luck > searching. > > Connie > >

Thank you so much for posting this Jeanne as I was beginning to think I had had another brain drain. A very grateful Tootsie Jeanne Crews wrote: > Just came across this list of Hampshire County place names at > http://www.historichampshire.org/names.htm > > It lists > South Branch > South Branch Mountain > South Branch Post Office (historical) > South Branch Potomac River > South Branch School (historical) > > Jeanne -- "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulders....and your hand over my mouth."

As the old saw says, the only dumb question is the one NOT asked <smile>. What was once called Conogogee (Conigogegh, etc.) is now called Williamsport, a town just outside Hagerstown, a few miles south of the PA border, in what is now Washington Co., MD. (A creek of the same name might well show up in nearby PA, though.) This Washington Co. was created from Frederick Co., MD in 1776 and was named for - who else - George Washington. I believe "Province of Mayland" in your data should read "Province of Maryland". Can you check your source on that? A Horatio Sharp was Gov'r of MD ca 1760s. In short, I think you should probably be looking in the area of Williamsport, in what is now Washington Co., MD. By the way, there is a Frederick, MD in Frederick Co. and also a Fredericktown in Cecil Co. MD. But I am pretty sure it was the one in Frederick Co. that was referred to as Frederick Town in the old days. --- John & Diane Kleinke <kleinke@thesurf.com> wrote: > Hi to All,, > I live in Wisconsin and have never been to WV. > so anyone, please, don't think my questions are > really awfully dumb. > I have been trying to find out where my > 5thGgrand was born and I think I may be looking > in the wrong place. In a copy of a patent for > a Matthias Purgett dated 1684 and updated every > once in a while till 1738 at London. Now > registered in the Province of Mayland, > Frtederick County after being surveyed in 1754. > Now my 5th Great says he was born in 1754 neer > Frederick Town, Md.. on the Conegochiege Manor. > On the 1751 map, I found a Conegogee Creek but > in Pennsylvania, north of Williams Ferry.. > Streight south of there in Md or Va in the town > Winchester with old name Frederick Town. > I have been looking in the Conococheague > Hundred and in Wash. Co., Md. with no avail.. > Should I be looking in the area around > Winchester? Or keep trying in Frederick Md. or > close to Haggerstown? Even on this 1751 map > the lines of Md and Va are kind of fuzzy at > this point. > Now the next reference I find is that a George > Burgett in 1760 is handling all the affairs of > deceased Matthias Purgett/Burgettt. I also > find a George Purgett listed in a letter to > Horacio Sharp as living outside Frederick and > taking his wagon apart and driving off his > horses so he doesn't have to hawl provisions to > the British at Fort Bradford. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Please *carefully* watch the phrase "on South Branch" vs "on the South Branch". They are different places, but the "the" gets omitted in extracts far too often. While we're at it, don't forget to pay attention to whether you're reading a legal document or a family letter. Cheryl The letter in my ggrandfather's Civil War papers states "we went to school at South Branch" not in or on South Branch. Tootsie -- "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulders....and your hand over my mouth."

For Pat Foley: Foley in EARLY RECORDS OF HAMPSHIRE COUNTY VIRGINIA by Sage and Jones 9-19-1798 Enoch and Stephen Thomas sold a parcel of land to Jacob High. Wit: John Foley, William Foley. 1-4-1799 John High sold 2 parcels of land. Witnessed by John Foley, John Foley Jr and Daniel Eller. --------------------------------------- In Fairfax Lands Taken Up 1788 to 1800 section... 1799 John Foley - 300 acres on Long Ridge. ---------------------------------- In Hampshire Co. Census 1782 - 1784 (AH is census taker's initials).... John Foley (AH) 8 - (AH) 9-1-2 ------------------------------------- In Marriage Bonds 1824-1828 section..... Milley Foley to Solomon Moore, La.[lawful age?], Larkin C. Kelley bondsman. 12-10-1828. My index shows a Sarah Foley on page 123 and I have read that page 3 times without finding her. Maybe someone who also has this book can look for the entry. Not much to go on, but you know Foleys were in the area. Good luck searching. Connie

In a message dated 2/13/2004 9:49:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, singhals@erols.com writes: but chances are very high that the area variously known as Western District and Upper District became Mineral county (supporting data: after Mineral split off I didn't see Upper District again on anything), while Eastern District/Lower District stayed Hampshire, with some breaking off into Morgan. Thank you. I'm just trying to figure out where his land was and how he traveled to westward Randolph County. Since the deed and marriage records were destroyed in the Hampshire Court House fire, you can imagine how difficult it is to pinpoint John Wolford's land. Affiliated families: Asbury, Ayres, Barker, Barnum, Bates, Bauder, Bowling, Briggs, Burton, Clark/Clarke, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Gardner, Geary, Goodale, Grim, Hall, Hardendorf, Harman, Harper, Hayes, Hurless, Keith, Marcy, Pier, Raney, Sawyer, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Summerfield, Tinkham, Vansant, Whitlam, Wilks, Wolford, Wood, Woolever Regards, Diane Wolford http://www.treelines.com

I'm sorry, I have to comment ... At 02:50 PM 02/12/2004 -0600, you wrote: >So, take your pick, an ancestor born in/at/on "South Branch of the Potomac >River" may have been born at the now abandoned town of South Branch (a very >small chance I should think without a definite comma in the correct place >and accompanied by additional indicators), or maybe within Wappacomo Manor >(this is much more likely, especially with additional indicators), or maybe >anywhere along the entire length of the SB of the Potomac River including >areas some distance away from it on either side. Please *carefully* watch the phrase "on South Branch" vs "on the South Branch". They are different places, but the "the" gets omitted in extracts far too often. While we're at it, don't forget to pay attention to whether you're reading a legal document or a family letter. Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

The Hampshire County, WV, Tax list for 1791, 1792, 1794, 1795, 1796, 1797, 1798, and 1798 had all of Hampshire County grouped together as far as I can tell (Working with a book I found in SLC). In 1800, the tax list split into Upper/Western District and Lower/Eastern District. This lasted for at least half a dozen years. Does anyone know what area the Upper District held? I'm wondering, since other counties split off from Hampshire, if those areas are now in other counties. Knowledge of where the Upper and Lower dividing line would help. I'm searching for an ancestor that was listed in early tax records and was on the Upper District tax records until at least 1805. From there the John Wolford family moved to Randolph (later Tucker County), WV. The other John Wolford, of Maryland, is listed in the Lower District. That is the John Wolford that stayed and died in Hampshire County. That John Wolford family entered the county about July 1798. The original one, the John Wolford that moved to Randolph/Tucker, moved to Hampshire before 1791 from New Jersey. From his pension records, he probably moved there about 1788. Affiliated families: Asbury, Ayres, Barker, Barnum, Bates, Bauder, Bowling, Briggs, Burton, Clark/Clarke, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Gardner, Geary, Goodale, Grim, Hall, Hardendorf, Harman, Harper, Hayes, Hurless, Keith, Marcy, Pier, Raney, Sawyer, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Summerfield, Tinkham, Vansant, Whitlam, Wilks, Wolford, Wood, Woolever Regards, Diane Wolford http://www.treelines.com

Just came across this list of Hampshire County place names at http://www.historichampshire.org/names.htm It lists South Branch South Branch Mountain South Branch Post Office (historical) South Branch Potomac River South Branch School (historical) Jeanne