I didn't keep the original email and I am sure you have found this but in case you haven't. A thought from a rookie could Lucy be a nickname for Florence C.? The following came from Genealogy.com online VIRGINIA, Frederick Co. Back Crk. Twp. Pg. 42 taken on 31 August 1870. Line 21 297 Whitock, Darius age 25 Farm Hand all born in VA Lucy E. age 23 Emma M. age 1 AND Darius Minor Whitlock found in W V, 1863-1900 Marriage Index Gender: male Spouse: Florence C. Barrett Marriage date: 19 Sept 1895 County: Hampshire More about: This record can be found at the County Clerk Records, Film #0815361 1880 census Capon, Hampshire, WV Darius Whitlock age 34 Lucy Whitlock age 33 Emma W. Whitlock age 11 Albert O. L. Whitlock age 9 Laurence J. Whitlock age 7 Margaret Whitlock age 4 -- "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulders....and your hand over my mouth."

At 10:05 PM 03/09/2004 -0500, Elaine wrote: >Cheryl, > >The 19 Sept 1895 marriage of Darius Minor Whitlock to Florence C. >Barrett is listed in V. B. Horton's "Hampshire Co. Marriages of the Thanks! (It didn't help the basic problem, but now I know it won't.) >1800's." None of his other marriages are listed. There are marriages >listed for other Whitlock's: Edward, Elizabeth, Lottie, Lydia, >Margaret, Mary, Risus, and William. Do you want any of these? Thanks, no. I dunno who they are, but they're not the ones I need (g). > >Four marriages! Good grief! He was worse than one of my paternal >gg-grandfathers in Va. who had 3. It seemed that soon after one died, The "blended family" seems to be a great deal older than most news stories would have us believe. (g) >she was replaced with a younger model. Needless to say, he had several >children. Yes, it looks like Dare fathered 12 or 13 children -- found a couple more in the death records. Found what HAS to be his death too, but it doesn't match what's reported to be on the gravestone. Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

Cheryl, The 19 Sept 1895 marriage of Darius Minor Whitlock to Florence C. Barrett is listed in V. B. Horton's "Hampshire Co. Marriages of the 1800's." None of his other marriages are listed. There are marriages listed for other Whitlock's: Edward, Elizabeth, Lottie, Lydia, Margaret, Mary, Risus, and William. Do you want any of these? Four marriages! Good grief! He was worse than one of my paternal gg-grandfathers in Va. who had 3. It seemed that soon after one died, she was replaced with a younger model. Needless to say, he had several children. Elaine

Divorced, beheaded, died, div -- no, that was Henry VIII, sorry. :( Anyway, for obscure reasons I spent the day trying to track Darius Whitlock in the census. It was a little sad. Darius (M) Whitlock, 4, appears on the 1850 census, apparently the son of Minor and Catherine. He's in the household again in 1860. By 1870, he's married to Lucy E, and they have a daughter Emma. Come 1880, and they've added Albert O L, Laurence J, and Margaret to the family. Skip to 1900, and his wife is Florence, and the previously mentioned 4 children are no where to be seen. Instead, Florence and Darius have Russell B, Bessie, and Walter W. 1910, Dare's wife is Priscilla J, and the household contains Russell B, Bessie L, Walter W, Harry E, Ernie E, Fred, and Priscilla's two sons from her previous marriage. I still can't find them in 1920, but in 1930, I find Darius, wife Sallie J, and there are no children in the household -- nor do I see any other Whitlock in Hampshire County. So, I went hunting for the missing sons (obviously, they're easier to track!) and didn't find any of them in the census index at HeritageQuest. Then I pulled up the cemetery pages -- and down at Capon Chapel, are entries for Darius, Lucy, Florence, Albert W, Emma W, Gertie W, and Walter W. Over on Timber Ridge, there's Ina (Whitlock) Anderson, Alva C, and Cletus and a few others born after 1915. And up at Loom, a whole list of people whose initials don't match anything else I've got. But all the kids *still* aren't accounted for, so I pulled out the new Frederick co cemetery book -- no Whitlocks. Turned to Kerns' Back Creek book, and there are only 4 in there, none of them instantly identifiable as belonging to Darius. Nothing in Historical Records, same author. I'll cruise the county marriage and death records tomorrow at the library, and then later I'll probably go pick up the obituary for him, just to see if any of those 10 kids survived him. I sure hope so. I'd feel a tad better if someone could assure me that I've misread Priscilla as Sallie, too. I mean, FOUR wives?!? BTW -- if anyone knows the maiden names of Lucy, Florence, and Sallie, I'd appreciate a note? Priscilla was a Nicewarner. Cheryl (who *cautions* future readers to NOT-contact her about the Whitlocks, because she has no real interest in or connection to the family. I did this trying to unravel a completely different family.) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

Dr. W. Kerns' book, "Historical Records of Old Frederick & Hampshire Counties, Va." (Rev.), also has a section on mills, including grist mills. The listings seem to be from 1813.

At 08:02 AM 03/04/2004 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/29/04 1:43:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, >singhals@erols.com writes: >I've uploaded the biographical sketches from the 1897 version of Maxwell & >Swisher's History of Hampshire County. > >They're found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/max/ > >Too late for many of you, but it might help a newbie. And, anyway, I've >gotten some good leads off other county's biographical sketches, so it's >payback. (g) > L. B. HEARE, farmer of Gore, son of Matthew and Mary Heare, Irish parentage, >was born 1831; married, 1861, Zulemma, daughter of Silas and Joanna >SHANHOLTZER; children, Johnston T., Augusta F., Lillian E., Minor G., George W., >Lorenzo H., Bertha V., Wade V., Walter R., and Virgil H. [pg 710] > >One of those errors in the books.......and was carried into articles on the >Heare line. This should read J. B. Heare, as in James Brown Heare. James I'm *pleased* to report that this one is indeed Maxwell & Swisher's error not one of my typos! (g) Thanks, Kathy for pointing it out. Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

Yes two different Fallings Springs - the one in PA is probably over a hundred miles away from the one along the Potomac River in West Virginia..... Susan On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:15:49 -0500 "Pat Thompson" <Pat125@erols.com> writes: > Susan wrote: > The Conococheague must be quite long because when I lived in > Chambersburg, PA about 30 minutes north of Hagerstown, MD it > ran through > the town right behind the church I was a member of - > ****Falling Spring > Presbyterian church . > --- > I just found on the Hardy County web site: > FC, 4:405, 6 March 1753 > Neals Friend, William Demose, Owen Rogers, and Peter > Julian, having made their report that they have marked a > road the most convenient way from Winchester Town to Potomac > River [illegible] order for a road to be cleared to the > mouth of the South Branch. Ordered that the said road be > cleared according to law. > Neals Friend is appointed overseer of the road from > Potomac River at Neals Friend's to the *****Falling Springs > and that the tithables eight miles on each side of the said > road work on the same under him as their overseer and that > he clear and keep the same in repair according to law. > > I suppose this MUST refer to two different FALLING > SPRINGS? > Might anyone know? > Thanks, Pat-T > > > >

Need information on the following, John S. Kidwell b. 1851 (WV) & Mary E. (?) Kidwell b. 1851 (VA) and children Thomas K. Kidwell b. 1874 WV., Elizabeth V. Kidwell b. 1874 Md., Sarah F. Kidwell b. 1878 Md. and George S. Kidwell b. 1879 Md. This family was enumerated on the 1880 census as living in Lonaconing, Allegheny County Md.

Susan wrote: The Conococheague must be quite long because when I lived in Chambersburg, PA about 30 minutes north of Hagerstown, MD it ran through the town right behind the church I was a member of - ****Falling Spring Presbyterian church . --- I just found on the Hardy County web site: FC, 4:405, 6 March 1753 Neals Friend, William Demose, Owen Rogers, and Peter Julian, having made their report that they have marked a road the most convenient way from Winchester Town to Potomac River [illegible] order for a road to be cleared to the mouth of the South Branch. Ordered that the said road be cleared according to law. Neals Friend is appointed overseer of the road from Potomac River at Neals Friend's to the *****Falling Springs and that the tithables eight miles on each side of the said road work on the same under him as their overseer and that he clear and keep the same in repair according to law. I suppose this MUST refer to two different FALLING SPRINGS? Might anyone know? Thanks, Pat-T

In a message dated 2/29/04 1:43:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, singhals@erols.com writes: I've uploaded the biographical sketches from the 1897 version of Maxwell & Swisher's History of Hampshire County. They're found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/max/ Too late for many of you, but it might help a newbie. And, anyway, I've gotten some good leads off other county's biographical sketches, so it's payback. (g) L. B. HEARE, farmer of Gore, son of Matthew and Mary Heare, Irish parentage, was born 1831; married, 1861, Zulemma, daughter of Silas and Joanna SHANHOLTZER; children, Johnston T., Augusta F., Lillian E., Minor G., George W., Lorenzo H., Bertha V., Wade V., Walter R., and Virgil H. [pg 710] One of those errors in the books.......and was carried into articles on the Heare line. This should read J. B. Heare, as in James Brown Heare. James Brown Heare died of consumption in 1887 and is buried at Mt. Bethel Chruch Cemetery at Three Churches. J B Heare was my great-great grandfather and I descend from his son, Lorenzo H or better known as LH Heare, to son Ray and Mildred Good Heare to my father, Fred and Shirley Garland Heare. James Brown Heare was one of at least four children of Mathew Heare (son of Adam and Margaret Tood Heare) and wife, Mary Ann Powelson Heare (daughter of Charles and Anne Alexander Powelson). Mary Ann died around 1840-41 and Mathew remarried 1842 to Martha Ruckman (daughter of Joseph B and Grace Cramer Ruckman). In September 1870, Mathew moved his family to St. Clair County, MO, but the family of James Brown remained in Hampshire County. Ten children were born from this union, one died as infant. Kathy Heare Watts Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming --- - WOW -- What a Ride!

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anybody knows anything about the Park Cemetery which is located near Augusta. >From Wayne McGahuey's work on the Historichampshire.org website: "Park Cemetery: Located about 3 miles South of Augusta on Rt.7 to Rt.7/4, then West .3 miles on Rt.7/4,the cemetery is 750 feet North of the highway." Unfortunately no pictures or inventory. Does an inventory exist anywhere? I believe that my GGgrandfather, J.H. Clem is buried here, as he is listed in the "11th Virginia Cavalry" book by Richard Armstrong as "Buried Park Cemetery, Hampshire County, WVA" If anyone has ever been to this cemetery or has knowledge about it or any possible inventory, I would appreciate your help. Thank you, Logan Johnson __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

At 09:15 AM 03/03/2004 -0800, robert perry <raider6066@yahoo.com> wrote: >(W)VA his name is spelled "Perrey". I also found Michael Perry on the 1830 census in Hampshire Co., VA. But using Ancestry .com the transcriber placed his name in the search engine as "Berry" even though his name is in the middle of the "P's'; because the P & e are close togeather. > You might also want to look at Pearry or Peary; I've seen both those names in various things -- and to save you the post, no I don't remember WHERE, I just remember seeing them in some WVHampsh materials. Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

At 04:27 PM 03/02/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Cheryl, >I am still here with bells on......I never did order those >films but will get right on it. Where did a year go?? I have a kindergarten >that >goes half day and that has really impeded my trips to the local FHC. I do >plan to go this month and I will find out about the Business and commerce >records and I promise not to take a year to get back to the list!!! > >Sue Hi, Sue! Mostly, I was just checking to be sure I hadn't missed something. I'll leave you to it. (g) I've been playing with my digital camera, but while it does great in cemeteries I'm not happy with what I get when I try to copy microfilm or books that way. I'll keep trying and maybe I'll figure it out ... Cheryl

Hi Genie, Thank you for the Book References! I see your aware of John Dietz Perry. Do you connect to this family in any way? I've got 3 cesus' on John Dietz Perry: 1870 & in 1880 there were 2 enumerations. Here's some notes on Michael Perry: NOTES: 1. All the books, biographoes and encyclopedias on John Dietz Perry seem to have copied each other and state that Michael Perry, "was a native of Pennsylvania, but removed to Hampshire county, Virginia (now West Virginia) about the year 1805, and owned and operated a flour mill on the South branch of the Potomac river. While his brother, John, bought a home further south and established himself in South Carolina." 2. Michael's son John Dietz Perry's 1880 census states that his father was born in VA. and mother in MD. 3. On a 2nd census in 1880 John Dietz Perry states that his mother was born in VA. (Hmmm?) 4. Michael's wife Rachael Bartholow died 9 days after the birth of her second child Thomas Washington Perry. The children John Dietz Perry and Thomas Washington Perry were left in the care of their maternal grand parents Thomas Bartholow Jr. and Ann (Nelson) Bartholow. It was thought that Michael died whithin a year of Rachael's death about 1817 or 1818. But, just a few pages away from finding Rachael's marriage license in Allegany CO., MD., I found a 2nd marriage license to Elizabeth Jones in 1818 also in Allegany CO., MD. and Michael is in the census of 1820 in Hampshire Co. (W)VA his name is spelled "Perrey". I also found Michael Perry on the 1830 census in Hampshire Co., VA. But using Ancestry .com the transcriber placed his name in the search engine as "Berry" even though his name is in the middle of the "P's'; because the P & e are close togeather. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

Hi Cheryl, I am still here with bells on......I never did order those films but will get right on it. Where did a year go?? I have a kindergarten that goes half day and that has really impeded my trips to the local FHC. I do plan to go this month and I will find out about the Business and commerce records and I promise not to take a year to get back to the list!!! Sue _________________________________________________________________ Find things fast with the new MSN Toolbar – includes FREE pop-up blocking! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/

Encyclopedia of the History of St. Louis : a compendium of history and biography for ready reference. New York: Southern History Co., Haldeman, Conard & Co., proprietors, 1899, 3001 pgs This book, admittedly a secondary source, contains a short bio of John D. Perry, son of Michael and Rachael (Bartholow) Perry. It says John was born on the south branch of the Potomac in Hampshire Co. VA on May 15, 1815. His father was from PA, moved to VA about 1805, operated a flour mill on the Potomac, etc. Perrys were of Scotch-Irish stock. The mother was dau of Thomas and Ann (Nelson) Bartholow, a VA family that immigrated from Alsace-Lorraine to America about 1700. Mother died when John was about 18 mos. old and he and brother Thomas W. were left in care of maternal grandmother. Two yrs later, the grandfather Bartholow moved to sparsely settled western VA and the boy's father Michael died shortly afterward. (The rest is about the son John D. and his career, move to MO, etc.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Cartmell's book, listed below, has a whole chapter on mills, including some of the early ones. Of course, there were probably countless early mills that are undocumented. And many failed, changed hands, were flooded out, burned down, etc. in natural disasters and wars. They were often small family operations. Cartmell, T. K. Shenandoah Valley pioneers and their descendants : a history of Frederick County, Virginia (illustrated) from its formation in 1738 to 1908, compiled mainly from original records of old Frederick County, now Hampshire, Berkeley, Shenandoah, Jefferson, Hardy, Clarke, Warren, Morgan and Federick. unknown: unknown, c1909 See also: Norris, J. E. History of the Lower Shenandoah Valley Counties of Frederick, Berkeley, Jefferson and Clarke : their early settlement and progress to the present time, geological features, a description of their historic and interesting localities, cities, towns and villages, portraits of some of the prominent men, and biographies of many of the representative citizens. Chicago: A. Warner, 1890 --- robert perry <raider6066@yahoo.com> wrote: > Can anyone direct me as to where to find info on > a flourmill in Hampshire Co. between 1805 - > 1830. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Hi, Does anyone recognize MICHAEL PERRY or either of his wives: RACHAEL BARTHOLOW (died abt. Nov. 1816) ELIZABETH JONES Can anyone direct me asto where to find info on a flourmill in Hampshire Co. between 1805 - 1830. Thanks, Robert Perry The following is more info: Name: Michael Perry Born: Bet. 1781 - 1790 Died: Aft. 1830 Married: (1) Rachael Bartholow on July 24, 1813 in Allegany County, MD. Children: John Dietz Perry (b. May 15, 1815) Thomas Washington Perry (b. Nov. 1816) Married: (2) Elizabeth Jones on Jan.9, 1818 in Allegany County, MD. Children: Occupation: Owned and opperated a flour mill on the South Branch of the Potomac River. Baptism: Funeral / Burial: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Census: 1820 United States Federal Census. Township: Unknown County: Hampshire State: Virginia Year: 1820 Roll: M33_136 Page: 273 Image: 288 Michael Perrey 2 males under 10, 1 male 26-45, 1 female 16-26 , 1 female 45 and over, 1 Manufacturers. (b. 1809-1820, b. bet.1775-1794, b. bet.1794-1804, b. bef.1775) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1830 United States Federal Census (Ancestry.com) Name: Perry, Michael Township: Unknown County: Hampshire State: Virginia Year: 1830 Roll: M19_191 Page: 46 Image: 95 *Note: This Image was transcribed in alphabetical order and is in the middle of the "P's" , but when you do a search, it is found listed as "Berry" ; since the "P" & "e" are so close together. It definently says Perry. Males: 1 of 5 & under 10 1 of 10 &under 15 1 of 40 & under 50 (born between 1781 - 1790) Females: 2 under 5 1 of 5 & under 10 1 of 20 & under 30 1 of 60 & under 70 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage License: (1) Michael Perry married Rachael Bartholow on July 24, 1813 in Allegany County, MD. (2) Michael Perry married Elizabeth Jones on Jan.9, 1818 in Allegany County, MD. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

Back in Dec 2002, "sue kolnitys" <staeg5@hotmail.com> asked about the business and commerce records in the LDS/FHLC for Hampshire co. The last message I find from Sue is to the effect that she'll let me know what she decides to do about them. Sue, you still here? I know I was off and on sick again all year, but did you ever look at the films, and are they *worth* transcribing? Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://bottonycross.purpleflowers.net (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

At 02:01 PM 02/29/2004 EST, you wrote: >Cheryl, > >This is information I'd also be glad to know, for I never got there either >and now think I am probably too dilapidated to do so. > > All I know about it is -- I went with one of the cousins to the Sam Shanholtzer grave and got REAL tired of scraping leaves outta my eyelashes. (G) The cousin said CC was steeper. Cheryl