Is anyone researching ALLENDER; ALDRICH or SPURLING surnames? Thanks Thelma

<<The book "Pioneers of Old Frederick Co. VA" (Marceline, MO: Walsworth Publishing Co., 1995) can be purchased for $49.50 + $4.50 for packaging and postage from: Cecil O'Dell 464 Morse Avenue Liberty, MO 64068-1524 816-781-4637>> Thanks for fielding this question for me. I'd like to re-emphasize what a good resource this book has been for me. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Carolyn, The book "Pioneers of Old Frederick Co. VA" (Marceline, MO: Walsworth Publishing Co., 1995) can be purchased for $49.50 + $4.50 for packaging and postage from: Cecil O'Dell 464 Morse Avenue Liberty, MO 64068-1524 816-781-4637 Hope this helps. It's a great book. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHUPE@citcom.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 4:57 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Book > Ok guys (Hermon and Brian)-------fess up! Where can we get this book > "Pioneers of Old Frederick Co., Va."? Is it in print now? > > Highest Regards!! > Carolyn > >

Ok guys (Hermon and Brian)-------fess up! Where can we get this book "Pioneers of Old Frederick Co., Va."? Is it in print now? Highest Regards!! Carolyn

Cecil O'Dell's book and maps are 12 inches from this keyboard. On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:49:54 -0700 Brian D Core <greenhouseguy@juno.com> writes: > Hermon, > > Cecil Odell's "Pioneers of Old Frederick County, Virginia" has a > great > fold-out map of Western Virginia, complete with old wagon roads, > historical county boundaries, and the boundaries of Fairfax's South > Branch Manor. The genealogical information is primarily about > families in > Shenandoah and Frederick Counties, but the book makes an excellent > reference for anybody with pioneer kin in western VA. It's very > thoroughly researched. > > Brian > > Brian D. Core > P.O. Box 1166 > Brighton, CO 80601 > Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: > http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy > For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

FYI This was forwarded from the WV list. :) Patti http://tn-1.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/metasearch :) Patti McDonald Burlington WV mcd@access.mountain.net Co-Coordinator Mineral County USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvminera/mineral.htm Subscribe to Mineral County Mailing List WVMINERA-L-request@rootsweb.com Surnames I am researching: HARTMAN, WOLFE, MILLER, FLEEK, WHITEMAN, PUFFENBARGER, FITZPATRICK, COOKUS, CORBUS, DYE, WALSH

Hermon, Cecil Odell's "Pioneers of Old Frederick County, Virginia" has a great fold-out map of Western Virginia, complete with old wagon roads, historical county boundaries, and the boundaries of Fairfax's South Branch Manor. The genealogical information is primarily about families in Shenandoah and Frederick Counties, but the book makes an excellent reference for anybody with pioneer kin in western VA. It's very thoroughly researched. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi: I have a Jack E. Efaw born in 1887, anyone have census for 1890 or 1900 that could check this name for me. His proper given name might have been John but he went by Jack. Born somewhere in WV. Would appreciate any help. thanks all bob e

Patti, On behalf of all of us involved in family research, thanks for your effort s and tact in approaching this situation. Sara Patton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti McDonald" <mcd@access.mountain.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 7:15 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Hampshire County Records > Hi, > I have been reading posts regarding the Hampshire County Records, and about > suggestions of writing letters to elected officials on the Hampshire Co > Mailing List. Since this issue has been before addressed, I am sending this > to both Mineral and Hampshire County lists. > Any letters I wrote to any of these persons below and any opinions I > suggested in these letters were my own, and I did not write them as a > representative of the USGenWeb. I am writing this to you in the same respect. > > At the time all this information came out, I wrote to many people trying to > get help and understanding. > The responses I received are included in this email. > I also wrote to EACH member of the Hampshire County Commission, as well as > Delegate Mezzetesta. I received NO response from any of them. > > Dr. Frederick Armstrong is the director of the Archives and History Section > of the WV Dept of Education and Arts. > I respect his authority and have been patiently awaiting his answer. I'll > let you know as soon as I hear anything. > I wrote my letters on Nov 8, 1999. > My responses were: > > FROM ROBERT C BYRD > Nov 17, 1999 > Dr. Ms. McDonald, > Thank you for your communication with regard to access to genealogy records > in the Hampshire County Courthouse. Your concerns are understandable. > Although I always want to be helpful, I regret to advise that is a state > matter over which I have no legal authority as a US Senator. However, in an > effort to be responsive to your concerns, prompt contact was made of the WV > Dept of Education and Arts in your behalf. I am advised that you should > contact the following state official for advice and assistance in this matter: > Mr. Frederick Armstrong > Director > Archives and History Section > WV Dept of Education and the Arts > 1900 Kanawha Blvd, East > Charleston WV 25305 > 304-558-0230 > I am glad to have had the opportunity to be of assistance, and I appreciate > your taking the time to write to me. I hope that this information will > prove useful. > Assuring you of my desire to be of assistance whenever possible, I am > Sincerely yours, > Robert C Byrd > US States Senator > Committee on Appropriations > Washington DC 20510-6025 > > FROM SENATOR JAY ROCKEFELLER > Nov 19, 1999 > Dear Patti, > Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with me about the > problem that you are having being able to search records at the Hampshire > County Courthouse. > Unfortunately, I do not know how I can be helpful to you in this matter. I > can only suggest that you share your concerns with the Hampshire County > Commission. Hopefully, they will be able to work something out with you. > Again, Patti, thank you for sharing your concerns with me. Please let me > know if I can be helpful in any other way, > Sincerely, > Jay > John D Rockefeller > United States Senate > Washington DC 20510-4802 > > FROM CONGRESSMAN BOB WISE > Dec 1, 1999 > I appreciate your bringing to my attention the problem you are experiencing > with gaining access to the Hampshire County documents. > The Hampshire County Commission has been asked to look into this matter and > furnish me with a full report. As soon as I have a response, I will be back > in touch with you. > Very truly yours, > Bob Wise > US Representatives > Congress of the US > Washington DC 20515 > > FROM DR ARMSTRONG > Dec 7, 1999 > Dear Ms McDonald > Your letter regarding the Hampshire County records was directed to my > attention for reply. I welcome the opportunity to address your concerns > regarding the work being done on records recently re-located in the > courthouse and access to them. > The records as you say are old an in fragile condition, a condition > partially accountable to some years of neglect and imporper storage. I have > made two trips to the courthouse this fall to assist the staff in addressing > some of its accumulated records storage and access problems. Their interest > is in the right place but the limitations of staff time and resources > creates a real challenge to address the needs of the records in a timely > manner. During both visits I discussed the work being done on the > re-located records with Mr Bill rice and County Clerk Sharon Link. Mr Rice > is a volunteer, unpaid staff, working on the project to process the records > found and attempt to arrange them so they can be indexed and stored more > properly. Mr Rice has demonstrated the necessary skills for this work while > working in the courthouse records in several other WV counties. As you > stated in your letter, he has invested his time and some funds in the > purchase of acid free paper and folders. But in my conversations with him > and the clerk, his efforts are for the preservatin of the records an access > to them. > In my conversations with Mr Link and Mr Rice, we have discussed the project, > the arrangement of the various records, devolpment of the index to access > these records and arranging microfilming of these so as to preserve the > originals. The plan is to make these records accessible to the public as > soon as we can. THe index is a work in progress an as a working index, it > is not complete or accurate. The more widely the index is dispersed in this > form, the more chance there would be for insufficient information on the > records that have not yet been included as a new entry or as an addition to > an existing entry. The clerk and her staff already have an established > policy of forwarding research inquirines into older records to a volunteer > who charges for the research service. The dual chekc process you describe > in your letter was revised after a telephone discussion with me in which it > was decided that all inquiries should be handled in the same manner. I have > advised the clerk that it is in the best interest of the preservation of > these fragile records ot reduce the handling to a minimum (projects such as > this usually consider the records closed until after processing, indexing > and microfilming) so as to maintain > their condition an not compromise them for microfilming. The records must > be arranged and indexed before they can be filmed, and we will not know the > total number of record images to be filmed or the cost for filming these > records until this is complete. As the records were found after the current > budget year preparations, available budget funds and staff time may have > some direct impact on the progress of this part of the project. Th news > that there are individuals interested in donating to defray the cost of > microfilming the records is welcome. > I hope I have responded to your questions regarding access to the records so > taht you can better understand and appreciate the challenges Ms Link and Mr > Rice face, as well as put some of your concerns to rest. The index being > prepared by Mr Rice will serve as the index to the records and will be > filmed to provide access to the microfilm of these records. Once filmed, > copies of the film will be made available for the courthouse and for > purchase for the local library. It should be possible to make arrangements > for user copies to be available at other libraries, but this has not been > discussed with the clerk. We are please these records have been re-located > and are being processed so as to re-establish public access. The > discovering of records and their potential for answeres to questions we have > about history and family is exciting. We hope you and others involved in > these pursuits can exercise patience a little longer until the processing, > indexing and microfilming is complete. I look forward to working with you > and others in a mutual efforts to make West Virginia's public and historical > records better preserved and more accessible. > Sincerely, > Fred Armstrong > Director, Archives and History > (I responded with my thanks to Dr Armstrong, and relayed to him that if the > Hampshire Co Clerk had made any such statement in the first place, I'm sure > there would not have been so much misunderstanding and distress by many > genealogical researchers). > > Shortly after this, I unofficially heard that Mr Rice had "quit" his efforts. > I again emailed Dr Armstrong who told me he would look into it. > > Several weeks ago, I again emailed him His response was: > Mrs. McDonald: > I received your previous message and delayed responding in hopes of > having some positive information to share. Thus far I have been unsuccessful > in getting that information. I know Mr. Rice dropped out of the project in > November. As of earlier this month he had not returned and the process of > completing the processing of the records and the index are on hold. But, > until I have the opportunity of discussing this at length with the direct > parties, either in person or by phone, I am not in a position to give you a > definitive answer. My intentions are to find a way to conclude the > arrangement and preparation of the loose papers, complete the index and then > find the means to microfilm and make them accessible. I will try to gather > some additional information this week and get back to you then. > Sorry to be unable to provide you with a more definitive answer and for > not responding earlier. I did receive some information last week from > someone close to the project, but not enough. > Fredrick H. Armstrong > > I have been patiently biding my time, in hopes that Dr. Armstrong can come > up with a constructive way to correctly handle this situation before > creating any more havoc among us. Since this issue has again come up, I > feel I should share my responses with you. > I hope this helps all of you who are interested in writing letters, and > saves your time as to who to write to. > > Patti >

Is there any way for a volunteer effort to index and microfilm the records? Perhaps some interested parties could get together and come up with someone to coordinate the effort present a plan to the powers that be. Local government is always strapped for cash and a way to make these records accessible to the public at little cost to them would likely be well received. Just an idea. Charles Lewman Patti McDonald wrote: > Hi, > I have been reading posts regarding the Hampshire County Records, and about > suggestions of writing letters to elected officials on the Hampshire Co > Mailing List. Since this issue has been before addressed, I am sending this > to both Mineral and Hampshire County lists. > Any letters I wrote to any of these persons below and any opinions I > suggested in these letters were my own, and I did not write them as a > representative of the USGenWeb. I am writing this to you in the same respect. > > At the time all this information came out, I wrote to many people trying to > get help and understanding. > The responses I received are included in this email. > I also wrote to EACH member of the Hampshire County Commission, as well as > Delegate Mezzetesta. I received NO response from any of them. > > Dr. Frederick Armstrong is the director of the Archives and History Section > of the WV Dept of Education and Arts. > I respect his authority and have been patiently awaiting his answer. I'll > let you know as soon as I hear anything. > I wrote my letters on Nov 8, 1999. > My responses were: > > FROM ROBERT C BYRD > Nov 17, 1999 > Dr. Ms. McDonald, > Thank you for your communication with regard to access to genealogy records > in the Hampshire County Courthouse. Your concerns are understandable. > Although I always want to be helpful, I regret to advise that is a state > matter over which I have no legal authority as a US Senator. However, in an > effort to be responsive to your concerns, prompt contact was made of the WV > Dept of Education and Arts in your behalf. I am advised that you should > contact the following state official for advice and assistance in this matter: > Mr. Frederick Armstrong > Director > Archives and History Section > WV Dept of Education and the Arts > 1900 Kanawha Blvd, East > Charleston WV 25305 > 304-558-0230 > I am glad to have had the opportunity to be of assistance, and I appreciate > your taking the time to write to me. I hope that this information will > prove useful. > Assuring you of my desire to be of assistance whenever possible, I am > Sincerely yours, > Robert C Byrd > US States Senator > Committee on Appropriations > Washington DC 20510-6025 > > FROM SENATOR JAY ROCKEFELLER > Nov 19, 1999 > Dear Patti, > Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with me about the > problem that you are having being able to search records at the Hampshire > County Courthouse. > Unfortunately, I do not know how I can be helpful to you in this matter. I > can only suggest that you share your concerns with the Hampshire County > Commission. Hopefully, they will be able to work something out with you. > Again, Patti, thank you for sharing your concerns with me. Please let me > know if I can be helpful in any other way, > Sincerely, > Jay > John D Rockefeller > United States Senate > Washington DC 20510-4802 > > FROM CONGRESSMAN BOB WISE > Dec 1, 1999 > I appreciate your bringing to my attention the problem you are experiencing > with gaining access to the Hampshire County documents. > The Hampshire County Commission has been asked to look into this matter and > furnish me with a full report. As soon as I have a response, I will be back > in touch with you. > Very truly yours, > Bob Wise > US Representatives > Congress of the US > Washington DC 20515 > > FROM DR ARMSTRONG > Dec 7, 1999 > Dear Ms McDonald > Your letter regarding the Hampshire County records was directed to my > attention for reply. I welcome the opportunity to address your concerns > regarding the work being done on records recently re-located in the > courthouse and access to them. > The records as you say are old an in fragile condition, a condition > partially accountable to some years of neglect and imporper storage. I have > made two trips to the courthouse this fall to assist the staff in addressing > some of its accumulated records storage and access problems. Their interest > is in the right place but the limitations of staff time and resources > creates a real challenge to address the needs of the records in a timely > manner. During both visits I discussed the work being done on the > re-located records with Mr Bill rice and County Clerk Sharon Link. Mr Rice > is a volunteer, unpaid staff, working on the project to process the records > found and attempt to arrange them so they can be indexed and stored more > properly. Mr Rice has demonstrated the necessary skills for this work while > working in the courthouse records in several other WV counties. As you > stated in your letter, he has invested his time and some funds in the > purchase of acid free paper and folders. But in my conversations with him > and the clerk, his efforts are for the preservatin of the records an access > to them. > In my conversations with Mr Link and Mr Rice, we have discussed the project, > the arrangement of the various records, devolpment of the index to access > these records and arranging microfilming of these so as to preserve the > originals. The plan is to make these records accessible to the public as > soon as we can. THe index is a work in progress an as a working index, it > is not complete or accurate. The more widely the index is dispersed in this > form, the more chance there would be for insufficient information on the > records that have not yet been included as a new entry or as an addition to > an existing entry. The clerk and her staff already have an established > policy of forwarding research inquirines into older records to a volunteer > who charges for the research service. The dual chekc process you describe > in your letter was revised after a telephone discussion with me in which it > was decided that all inquiries should be handled in the same manner. I have > advised the clerk that it is in the best interest of the preservation of > these fragile records ot reduce the handling to a minimum (projects such as > this usually consider the records closed until after processing, indexing > and microfilming) so as to maintain > their condition an not compromise them for microfilming. The records must > be arranged and indexed before they can be filmed, and we will not know the > total number of record images to be filmed or the cost for filming these > records until this is complete. As the records were found after the current > budget year preparations, available budget funds and staff time may have > some direct impact on the progress of this part of the project. Th news > that there are individuals interested in donating to defray the cost of > microfilming the records is welcome. > I hope I have responded to your questions regarding access to the records so > taht you can better understand and appreciate the challenges Ms Link and Mr > Rice face, as well as put some of your concerns to rest. The index being > prepared by Mr Rice will serve as the index to the records and will be > filmed to provide access to the microfilm of these records. Once filmed, > copies of the film will be made available for the courthouse and for > purchase for the local library. It should be possible to make arrangements > for user copies to be available at other libraries, but this has not been > discussed with the clerk. We are please these records have been re-located > and are being processed so as to re-establish public access. The > discovering of records and their potential for answeres to questions we have > about history and family is exciting. We hope you and others involved in > these pursuits can exercise patience a little longer until the processing, > indexing and microfilming is complete. I look forward to working with you > and others in a mutual efforts to make West Virginia's public and historical > records better preserved and more accessible. > Sincerely, > Fred Armstrong > Director, Archives and History > (I responded with my thanks to Dr Armstrong, and relayed to him that if the > Hampshire Co Clerk had made any such statement in the first place, I'm sure > there would not have been so much misunderstanding and distress by many > genealogical researchers). > > Shortly after this, I unofficially heard that Mr Rice had "quit" his efforts. > I again emailed Dr Armstrong who told me he would look into it. > > Several weeks ago, I again emailed him His response was: > Mrs. McDonald: > I received your previous message and delayed responding in hopes of > having some positive information to share. Thus far I have been unsuccessful > in getting that information. I know Mr. Rice dropped out of the project in > November. As of earlier this month he had not returned and the process of > completing the processing of the records and the index are on hold. But, > until I have the opportunity of discussing this at length with the direct > parties, either in person or by phone, I am not in a position to give you a > definitive answer. My intentions are to find a way to conclude the > arrangement and preparation of the loose papers, complete the index and then > find the means to microfilm and make them accessible. I will try to gather > some additional information this week and get back to you then. > Sorry to be unable to provide you with a more definitive answer and for > not responding earlier. I did receive some information last week from > someone close to the project, but not enough. > Fredrick H. Armstrong > > I have been patiently biding my time, in hopes that Dr. Armstrong can come > up with a constructive way to correctly handle this situation before > creating any more havoc among us. Since this issue has again come up, I > feel I should share my responses with you. > I hope this helps all of you who are interested in writing letters, and > saves your time as to who to write to. > > Patti

Hi, I have been reading posts regarding the Hampshire County Records, and about suggestions of writing letters to elected officials on the Hampshire Co Mailing List. Since this issue has been before addressed, I am sending this to both Mineral and Hampshire County lists. Any letters I wrote to any of these persons below and any opinions I suggested in these letters were my own, and I did not write them as a representative of the USGenWeb. I am writing this to you in the same respect. At the time all this information came out, I wrote to many people trying to get help and understanding. The responses I received are included in this email. I also wrote to EACH member of the Hampshire County Commission, as well as Delegate Mezzetesta. I received NO response from any of them. Dr. Frederick Armstrong is the director of the Archives and History Section of the WV Dept of Education and Arts. I respect his authority and have been patiently awaiting his answer. I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything. I wrote my letters on Nov 8, 1999. My responses were: FROM ROBERT C BYRD Nov 17, 1999 Dr. Ms. McDonald, Thank you for your communication with regard to access to genealogy records in the Hampshire County Courthouse. Your concerns are understandable. Although I always want to be helpful, I regret to advise that is a state matter over which I have no legal authority as a US Senator. However, in an effort to be responsive to your concerns, prompt contact was made of the WV Dept of Education and Arts in your behalf. I am advised that you should contact the following state official for advice and assistance in this matter: Mr. Frederick Armstrong Director Archives and History Section WV Dept of Education and the Arts 1900 Kanawha Blvd, East Charleston WV 25305 304-558-0230 I am glad to have had the opportunity to be of assistance, and I appreciate your taking the time to write to me. I hope that this information will prove useful. Assuring you of my desire to be of assistance whenever possible, I am Sincerely yours, Robert C Byrd US States Senator Committee on Appropriations Washington DC 20510-6025 FROM SENATOR JAY ROCKEFELLER Nov 19, 1999 Dear Patti, Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with me about the problem that you are having being able to search records at the Hampshire County Courthouse. Unfortunately, I do not know how I can be helpful to you in this matter. I can only suggest that you share your concerns with the Hampshire County Commission. Hopefully, they will be able to work something out with you. Again, Patti, thank you for sharing your concerns with me. Please let me know if I can be helpful in any other way, Sincerely, Jay John D Rockefeller United States Senate Washington DC 20510-4802 FROM CONGRESSMAN BOB WISE Dec 1, 1999 I appreciate your bringing to my attention the problem you are experiencing with gaining access to the Hampshire County documents. The Hampshire County Commission has been asked to look into this matter and furnish me with a full report. As soon as I have a response, I will be back in touch with you. Very truly yours, Bob Wise US Representatives Congress of the US Washington DC 20515 FROM DR ARMSTRONG Dec 7, 1999 Dear Ms McDonald Your letter regarding the Hampshire County records was directed to my attention for reply. I welcome the opportunity to address your concerns regarding the work being done on records recently re-located in the courthouse and access to them. The records as you say are old an in fragile condition, a condition partially accountable to some years of neglect and imporper storage. I have made two trips to the courthouse this fall to assist the staff in addressing some of its accumulated records storage and access problems. Their interest is in the right place but the limitations of staff time and resources creates a real challenge to address the needs of the records in a timely manner. During both visits I discussed the work being done on the re-located records with Mr Bill rice and County Clerk Sharon Link. Mr Rice is a volunteer, unpaid staff, working on the project to process the records found and attempt to arrange them so they can be indexed and stored more properly. Mr Rice has demonstrated the necessary skills for this work while working in the courthouse records in several other WV counties. As you stated in your letter, he has invested his time and some funds in the purchase of acid free paper and folders. But in my conversations with him and the clerk, his efforts are for the preservatin of the records an access to them. In my conversations with Mr Link and Mr Rice, we have discussed the project, the arrangement of the various records, devolpment of the index to access these records and arranging microfilming of these so as to preserve the originals. The plan is to make these records accessible to the public as soon as we can. THe index is a work in progress an as a working index, it is not complete or accurate. The more widely the index is dispersed in this form, the more chance there would be for insufficient information on the records that have not yet been included as a new entry or as an addition to an existing entry. The clerk and her staff already have an established policy of forwarding research inquirines into older records to a volunteer who charges for the research service. The dual chekc process you describe in your letter was revised after a telephone discussion with me in which it was decided that all inquiries should be handled in the same manner. I have advised the clerk that it is in the best interest of the preservation of these fragile records ot reduce the handling to a minimum (projects such as this usually consider the records closed until after processing, indexing and microfilming) so as to maintain their condition an not compromise them for microfilming. The records must be arranged and indexed before they can be filmed, and we will not know the total number of record images to be filmed or the cost for filming these records until this is complete. As the records were found after the current budget year preparations, available budget funds and staff time may have some direct impact on the progress of this part of the project. Th news that there are individuals interested in donating to defray the cost of microfilming the records is welcome. I hope I have responded to your questions regarding access to the records so taht you can better understand and appreciate the challenges Ms Link and Mr Rice face, as well as put some of your concerns to rest. The index being prepared by Mr Rice will serve as the index to the records and will be filmed to provide access to the microfilm of these records. Once filmed, copies of the film will be made available for the courthouse and for purchase for the local library. It should be possible to make arrangements for user copies to be available at other libraries, but this has not been discussed with the clerk. We are please these records have been re-located and are being processed so as to re-establish public access. The discovering of records and their potential for answeres to questions we have about history and family is exciting. We hope you and others involved in these pursuits can exercise patience a little longer until the processing, indexing and microfilming is complete. I look forward to working with you and others in a mutual efforts to make West Virginia's public and historical records better preserved and more accessible. Sincerely, Fred Armstrong Director, Archives and History (I responded with my thanks to Dr Armstrong, and relayed to him that if the Hampshire Co Clerk had made any such statement in the first place, I'm sure there would not have been so much misunderstanding and distress by many genealogical researchers). Shortly after this, I unofficially heard that Mr Rice had "quit" his efforts. I again emailed Dr Armstrong who told me he would look into it. Several weeks ago, I again emailed him His response was: Mrs. McDonald: I received your previous message and delayed responding in hopes of having some positive information to share. Thus far I have been unsuccessful in getting that information. I know Mr. Rice dropped out of the project in November. As of earlier this month he had not returned and the process of completing the processing of the records and the index are on hold. But, until I have the opportunity of discussing this at length with the direct parties, either in person or by phone, I am not in a position to give you a definitive answer. My intentions are to find a way to conclude the arrangement and preparation of the loose papers, complete the index and then find the means to microfilm and make them accessible. I will try to gather some additional information this week and get back to you then. Sorry to be unable to provide you with a more definitive answer and for not responding earlier. I did receive some information last week from someone close to the project, but not enough. Fredrick H. Armstrong I have been patiently biding my time, in hopes that Dr. Armstrong can come up with a constructive way to correctly handle this situation before creating any more havoc among us. Since this issue has again come up, I feel I should share my responses with you. I hope this helps all of you who are interested in writing letters, and saves your time as to who to write to. Patti

Another real good source to write to is Sen John D. Rockefeller. I Have written many letters (different subjects) to Sen Byrd & he always has replied in a timely manner. Perhaps several letters would do the trick. Barbara Genrashns@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/12/2000 1:51:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, > thelma1@flash.net writes: > > << This is just a thought, isn't Senator Byrd WV's senator? If so do you > think > writing a letter to him would help? He seems to take anything about WV very > serious from watching C-Span. I am sorry can't remember any other elected > people. > Thelma in Michigan > > Elizabeth Periman wrote: > > > Has anyone found out if the money already sent for copies of the records is > > going to be honored. I really would like to know if I'm going to get what > I > > already paid for. > > Elizabeth in Texas > > eperiman@1starnet.com > > http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elaine D Tomkins <darrtom@juno.com> > > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:41 PM > > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Courthouse Basement Records > > > > > The first part of this is directed to Mike Foreman in reference to his > > > message (below) posted 28 Oct 1999. After the posting of the below > > > message, not another word was said on the list about these records until > > > a couple of people reported early this month their experiences in getting > > > copies of some of these records from the courthouse. My question, Mike, > > > is, in your and other subscribers' efforts (mentioned below) to uncover > > > the facts regarding the future of these records, can you tell us what you > > > learned? > > > > > > Next, does ANYONE know if Mr. Rice completed indexing ALL of the basement > > > records, or did he throw in the towel before completion of the index? If > > > he did NOT complete indexing all of the records, what about the unindexed > > > records? Are they going to allow someone else to finish the task? Also, > > > where are the records now going to be stored? Are they going to continue > > > to keep the records languishing in that damp, musty basement or are they > > > going to make some effort at providing some sort of proper storage for > > > these records of the county's history? > > > > > > Elaine in Ohio > > > > > > Veerle Foreman wrote: > > > > > > > Ladies and gentlemen: I, along with a few other subscribers, have been > > > > working diligently, off line, the past few days to find out some facts > > > concerning > > > > > > > the records in the Hampshire County Courthouse. We don't have all of > > > them > > > > yet, but we should by the first of next week. Please hold off on any > > > collections of > > > > money for microfilming as this probably is going to be done by both > > > local and > > > > state agencies. That is not certain yet, but it looks like that is > > > part of the plan. > > > > > > > > We promise we will have a full report next week so right now just > > > relax > > > > and think of the potential gold mine that may exist for each of us with > > > ties > > > > to this beautiful old county. It's gonna be okay. > > > > > > > > Mike Foreman > > > >> > It just seems to me that this might be a good cause for all the Historical > societies in the county to get together on and see what can be done,,just a > suggestion,,Genrashns

Howie, I am sure you did meet nice people at the library. How do you get the information if you can't get to the Romney Public Library in person to meet these nice people? Thanks Thelma in Michigan Capyoyo@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > Is there anything good in Hampshire County? It wouldn't seem so with what > I've seen on this site. A couple of years ago I had the privilege of seeking > some information at the Romney Public Library, and I met some of the nicest > and cooperative people in the business of genealogy. Oh yes, I found a lot > of material in their little genealogy room. Try it, you may like it! > > Howie

Howie wrote: Is there anything good in Hampshire County? It wouldn't seem so with what I've seen on this site. A couple of years ago I had the privilege of seeking some information at the Romney Public Library, and I met some of the nicest and cooperative people in the business of genealogy. Oh yes, I found a lot of material in their little genealogy room. Try it, you may like it! ============================================= I'm sure your are right about that, Howie. But I wonder what experiences people have had at the county offices. They sound overworked and under- paid. Any comments? Gary Radcliffe

Hi, Is there anything good in Hampshire County? It wouldn't seem so with what I've seen on this site. A couple of years ago I had the privilege of seeking some information at the Romney Public Library, and I met some of the nicest and cooperative people in the business of genealogy. Oh yes, I found a lot of material in their little genealogy room. Try it, you may like it! Howie

I used www. topozone.com on-line topographical map to pull up the Moorefield and the Romney area's. If that big valley at Moorefield was one of Lord Fairfax's manor, there must be some special data somewhere concerning it. Some rent rolls, or some debate about confiscation of Loyalist lands.Who was Fairfax's agent? Col Joseph Neville? Thomas Brown was at son-in-law James Sandusky's fort in Bourbon Co,Ky several years before the manor tennets had the option of purchase. Rev Denny Martin Fairfax was,I suppose, Episcopal. Kinsman of lawyer,Luther Martin? Was Luther a son-in-law of old Tom Cresap? I use AOL 5.0 as an internet provider,and Win 98,and the above www.topozone.com has been locking my computer. It may be me changing my mind while loading a map. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

There is one "historical society" in Hampshire Co., and from what I have heard from others, it doesn't do much of anything. I know of one person who sent them a membership fee and never heard from them, couldn't get a response from them, or even find out who the president was. Sounds like more of a social club than anything historical. Elaine On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:28:28 EST Genrashns@aol.com writes: > > It just seems to me that this might be a good cause for all the > Historical > societies in the county to get together on and see what can be > done,,just a > suggestion,,Genrashns >

Randy, The title will be something like "Hampshire County, Virginia: Settlement and Some First Families." No date of publication has been set, but it won't be finished during the next three years. I must first finish another project, so I am presently inactive on Hampshire County research. If you want to be on a mailing list, please provide your home address in a private e-mail to me. Wilmer L. Kerns Randy Smith wrote: > What is the name of this book on Hamp. Co.? When will it be out, and how can > we purchase it. Thanks Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wilmer L. Kerns <wlkerns@intr.net> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > > > No need for anyone to write to The West Virginia Advocate. It no longer > > exists, and the mail will be returned to you. The paper went out of > business > > in May 1992 after the editor committed suicide. To repeat a previous > e-mail, I > > wrote all of the genealogical articles that were published in that > newspaper > > from July 1982 thru May 1992. Some of those articles were published in > book > > form in 1995 in Frederick County, Virginia: Settlement and Some First > Families > > of Back Creek Valley, 1730-1830. The remainder of the articles will be > > included in my next book on Hampshire County. Copies of the newspaper > articles > > may be secured from either the Handley Regional Library, Archives Division > in > > Winchester or the Hampshire County Public Library in Romney. > > > > Wilmer L. Kerns > > > > justin wrote: > > > > > Dear Sam, > > > I have 2 large paper records from the West > > > Virginia Advocate. I think years before I spoke to a man who I thought > was > > > the publisher of the paper. > > > I never knew it was a book, I thought it was a newspaper. I think the > > > publisher was at one time > > > thought of as being pretty outspoken. I think he has since passed > away.The > > > Address follows: > > > The West Virginia Advocate: > > > P. O. Box 171, > > > Cacapon Bridge, W.Va. 26711 > > > In the top right-hand corner it says (newsstand-45cents > > > They are dated 1989,1991 > > > Hope this helps. > > > Yours In Friendship, > > > Deanne Stump > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Sam Coverston <coverston@SCIA.NET> > > > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2000 9:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > > > > > > >What book are you looking for? I may have it. Sam > > > > > > > >Bill Pyles wrote: > > > > > > > >> I have been searching on the net this morning without success for the > > > book. > > > >> I remember it coming out, but I figured it was all on the Frederick > Co, > > > VA, > > > >> are. My family was from Hampshire Co. > > > >> Bill Pyles > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: Holt, Mark A. (MHOLT) <MHOLT@arinc.com> > > > >> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:39 AM > > > >> Subject: RE: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > > > >> > > > >> > Thanks Wilmer. Where can I find a copy to purchase? I haven't had > > > much > > > >> > luck locating it. > > > >> > > > > >> > Mark. > > > >> > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > From: Wilmer L. Kerns [mailto:wlkerns@intr.net] > > > >> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:38 AM > > > >> > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >> > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > > > >> > > > > >> > Mark, > > > >> > > > > >> > I wrote the genealogical and historical articles for the WVa > > > >> > Advocate. Some of > > > >> > those articles were drafts that were later revised and > > > >> > expanded for publication > > > >> > in my book on Frederick County (Settlement and First > > > >> > Families of Back Creek > > > >> > Valley, 1730-1830). You will find a more accurate and > > > >> > up-to-date account of > > > >> > Ellis Pugh and descendants in the book, published by Gateway > > > >> > Press, Inc. in > > > >> > 1995. > > > >> > > > > >> > Wilmer L. Kerns > > > >> > > > > >> > "Holt, Mark A. (MHOLT)" wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Does anyone know how/where I can get copies of past issues > > > >> > of The West > > > >> > > Virginia Advocate? I'm looking for an article titled "The > > > >> > Ellis Pugh Family > > > >> > > History" that appeared in The West Virginia Advocate on > > > >> > June 6, 1983. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > > >> > > Mark Holt. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

This is just a thought, isn't Senator Byrd WV's senator? If so do you think writing a letter to him would help? He seems to take anything about WV very serious from watching C-Span. I am sorry can't remember any other elected people. Thelma in Michigan Elizabeth Periman wrote: > Has anyone found out if the money already sent for copies of the records is > going to be honored. I really would like to know if I'm going to get what I > already paid for. > Elizabeth in Texas > eperiman@1starnet.com > http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elaine D Tomkins <darrtom@juno.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:41 PM > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Courthouse Basement Records > > > The first part of this is directed to Mike Foreman in reference to his > > message (below) posted 28 Oct 1999. After the posting of the below > > message, not another word was said on the list about these records until > > a couple of people reported early this month their experiences in getting > > copies of some of these records from the courthouse. My question, Mike, > > is, in your and other subscribers' efforts (mentioned below) to uncover > > the facts regarding the future of these records, can you tell us what you > > learned? > > > > Next, does ANYONE know if Mr. Rice completed indexing ALL of the basement > > records, or did he throw in the towel before completion of the index? If > > he did NOT complete indexing all of the records, what about the unindexed > > records? Are they going to allow someone else to finish the task? Also, > > where are the records now going to be stored? Are they going to continue > > to keep the records languishing in that damp, musty basement or are they > > going to make some effort at providing some sort of proper storage for > > these records of the county's history? > > > > Elaine in Ohio > > > > Veerle Foreman wrote: > > > > > Ladies and gentlemen: I, along with a few other subscribers, have been > > > working diligently, off line, the past few days to find out some facts > > concerning > > > > > the records in the Hampshire County Courthouse. We don't have all of > > them > > > yet, but we should by the first of next week. Please hold off on any > > collections of > > > money for microfilming as this probably is going to be done by both > > local and > > > state agencies. That is not certain yet, but it looks like that is > > part of the plan. > > > > > > We promise we will have a full report next week so right now just > > relax > > > and think of the potential gold mine that may exist for each of us with > > ties > > > to this beautiful old county. It's gonna be okay. > > > > > > Mike Foreman > > > > ______________________________

No need for anyone to write to The West Virginia Advocate. It no longer exists, and the mail will be returned to you. The paper went out of business in May 1992 after the editor committed suicide. To repeat a previous e-mail, I wrote all of the genealogical articles that were published in that newspaper from July 1982 thru May 1992. Some of those articles were published in book form in 1995 in Frederick County, Virginia: Settlement and Some First Families of Back Creek Valley, 1730-1830. The remainder of the articles will be included in my next book on Hampshire County. Copies of the newspaper articles may be secured from either the Handley Regional Library, Archives Division in Winchester or the Hampshire County Public Library in Romney. Wilmer L. Kerns justin wrote: > Dear Sam, > I have 2 large paper records from the West > Virginia Advocate. I think years before I spoke to a man who I thought was > the publisher of the paper. > I never knew it was a book, I thought it was a newspaper. I think the > publisher was at one time > thought of as being pretty outspoken. I think he has since passed away.The > Address follows: > The West Virginia Advocate: > P. O. Box 171, > Cacapon Bridge, W.Va. 26711 > In the top right-hand corner it says (newsstand-45cents > They are dated 1989,1991 > Hope this helps. > Yours In Friendship, > Deanne Stump > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Coverston <coverston@SCIA.NET> > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, February 11, 2000 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > > >What book are you looking for? I may have it. Sam > > > >Bill Pyles wrote: > > > >> I have been searching on the net this morning without success for the > book. > >> I remember it coming out, but I figured it was all on the Frederick Co, > VA, > >> are. My family was from Hampshire Co. > >> Bill Pyles > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Holt, Mark A. (MHOLT) <MHOLT@arinc.com> > >> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:39 AM > >> Subject: RE: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > >> > >> > Thanks Wilmer. Where can I find a copy to purchase? I haven't had > much > >> > luck locating it. > >> > > >> > Mark. > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Wilmer L. Kerns [mailto:wlkerns@intr.net] > >> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:38 AM > >> > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] The West Virginia Advocate > >> > > >> > Mark, > >> > > >> > I wrote the genealogical and historical articles for the WVa > >> > Advocate. Some of > >> > those articles were drafts that were later revised and > >> > expanded for publication > >> > in my book on Frederick County (Settlement and First > >> > Families of Back Creek > >> > Valley, 1730-1830). You will find a more accurate and > >> > up-to-date account of > >> > Ellis Pugh and descendants in the book, published by Gateway > >> > Press, Inc. in > >> > 1995. > >> > > >> > Wilmer L. Kerns > >> > > >> > "Holt, Mark A. (MHOLT)" wrote: > >> > > >> > > Does anyone know how/where I can get copies of past issues > >> > of The West > >> > > Virginia Advocate? I'm looking for an article titled "The > >> > Ellis Pugh Family > >> > > History" that appeared in The West Virginia Advocate on > >> > June 6, 1983. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Mark Holt. > >> > > >> >