Some portion of you are on the www.ancestry.com on-line genealogy library as dues paying members. The 1776 and 1779 SOUTH BRANCH MANOR rent rolls are there,available only to members. When you log on www.ancestry.com you are faced with 2 empty boxes-1 pre-named 1st name,and one last name. I'm mentioned before to be inventive filling in those two boxes. Lost River,for example. Anyway, members,fill the 1st name box with S only and the last name box with BR only and search. [for SOUTH BRANCH] Among the hits,select CENSUS RECORDS, then Va Census, and there will be 500 + hits for 1776 and 1779 rent rolls. So,we have, 1750,1767,1776,1779 and 1793 for renters,and 1782 and 1787 for tax available. No Arthur,Curl,Sailor,Sandusky,Coonrod. 1776 and 1779 We know Curl lived just outside the manor on the SOUTH FORK 1776 AND 1779 RENT ROLLS DO HAVE SAMUEL BEAL ABE CLARK,WM DARLING, CORNELIUS WARD,SYLVESTER WARD,ISREAL WARD. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I have found the following land surveys for Foreman/Forman surname on the Northern Neck of Virginia land surveys. These are taken from the digital index of The Library of Virginia. See hnttp://image.vtls.com/collections/NN.html FOREMAN: Benjamin 249 Ac on waters of Little Cacaphon 1789 adjoin surveys of Keatings and Wichoff (No cunty given but would be in Hampshire) Benjain, Jr.400 ac Frederick Co Lot 26 on great 1749 South Branch of Potomack (now in Hampshire Co) David 77 ac Hampshire Co Sandy Ridge 1829 David 89 ac Hampshire Co on Mountain between 1829 Parks Hollow & Dillon Run John 120 ac on drains of South Branch of Potomoac 1779 John Jr. 58 ac on waters of South Branch on NS South 1792 Branch Mountain Hampshire Co Joseph 420 ac Berkeley Co adjoins Rowlings land 1789 Joseph 17 ac Berkeley Co below mouth of Back Creek 1802 on Potomakc River Joseph 5 ac Island in Potomack near Back Creek mouth 1803 FORMAN Joseph 8 ac Berkeley Co on Back Creek 1815 Samuel 15 ac Hanpshire Co nw side of Edwards Mtn 1820 William 345 ac Hampshire on waters of South Branch of Potomack 1789 adjoining John Forman Aaron 443 ac Hampshire Co, on South Branch 1791 Benjamin & 384 ac Frederick Co near mouth of Opequon Creek 1765 Josehp on Potomack River Benjamin 416 ac Berkeley Co between Two Sleep Creek Mtn 1791 Benjamin 295 ac Hampshire Co on Great Cacaphon 1806 George 86 ac Hampshire Co adjoins Widow Forman 1800 and Thomas Edwards James 230 ac Frederick Co adjoins Swearingen and Rutherford 1765 James 44 ac Frederick Co on drains of Potomack 1765 James 10 ac Berkeley Co island in Potomack 1804 James 2 ac Berkeley Co on Opeckon Creek 1814 John 780 ac Hampshire Co on waters of South Branch 1790 John 353 ac Hampshire Co on South Branch 1790 John 208 ac Hampshire Co on Little Cacaphon 1790 adjoins Duncans land John 236 ac Hampshire Co on Sugar Treet Run 1790 adjoins William Forman land William 154 ac Hampshire Co on dreains of South Barnch 1761 William 195 ac Hampshire Co on Castleman;s Branch 1766 William 16 ac Berkeley Co on ws Back Creek 1776' (with Andrew Bowman William 129 ac Berkeley ws of Back Crek near Potomack 1776 (with Andrew Bowman) William 353 ac Hampshire Co on South Branck of Potomack 1790 adjoing Ashbrook There were 3 entries for William Forman and John Reed Sr as Executors of the Estate of Richard Houghland, deceased for lands in Hampshire County in 1788

Mike, I can't help you with Kuykendall Mill Run, but Piney Mountain, according to my Delorme Atlas software, is located NW of Kirby close to, if not within, the Nathaniel Mountain Wildlife Management Area. It is on the eastern side of the Nathaniel Mtn Wildlife Management Area. The nearest numbered County Rd. is CR 10/3 which runs SW off of CR 10. Piney Mtn. is almost exactly west of that road intersection, slightly to the south. There is another unnumbered/unnamed road to the west of Piney Mtn. Elaine

Can anyone tell me the loaction of Kuykendall Mill Run and Piney Mountian? They were listed on a survey in the late 1700's. Thanks...Mike Foreman

My indirect ancestor was given this grant, have a copy of it, opens with: William Claypole Deed 1755 The Right Honorable Thomas Lord Faifax Baron of Cameron in the part of Great Britain called Scotland Proprietor of the Northern Neck of Virginia to all to whom this present writing shall come sends greeting; Know Ye that for good Causes for and in consideration of the Composition to me paid and for the annual Rent hereafter reserved I have given granted and confirmed and by these presents for me my Heirs and Assigns do give grant and confirm unto William Claypole of Frederick County a certain Tract of waste and ungranted Land in the said county on the Lost River of Cacapchon and bounded as by a Survey thereof made by Mr. George Washington. I turned up this The earliest Lord Fairfax grant located dates about 1747, around 1742 he set up a land office for issuing grants. The book A History of the Valley of Virginia, by Kercheval is interesting reading, taken with a grain of salt. Barbara

The following Evans were found on the Library of Virginia digital index of Northern Neck of Virginia land grants. I have no other information. See http://image.vtls.com/collections/NN.html EVANS Abel 50 ac.... (probaly in Hampshire) July 1854 Alexander 400ac with John Tharpe 1834 Alexander 75/8 ac NS of North River, Hardy Co 1853 Alexander 33 ac drains Stone Link Run, Hardy Co 1852 Caleb 143 ac with Joseph Thompson Hardy Co 1800 Caleb 25 ac on Stack Gap Run Hampshire Co 1827 Caleb 100 ac on North River Hardy Co 1796 Elijah 99ac Powell's Ft, near Passage Cr. Shenandoah Co 1792 Elijah 76ac Powells Ft, bnear Passage Cr Shenandoah Co 1794 Elijah 100 ac Massanutten Mtn Shenandoah Co, 1832 Hezekiah 110 ac Middle Mtn, Shenandoah Co, 1797 Isaac 200 ac Frederick County, 1760 Isaac 400 ac west drains of Opequon, Frederick 1762 Isaac 57 ac, es North Mountain, Frederick Co 1771 John 500 ac gr road to Potomack, Frederick Co 1752 John 467 ac drains of Evans Great spring, Fred. Co 1760 John 2211 ac Sugar Land Run, Loudoun Co. 1768 John 190 ac both sides Tilchenzy branch Berkeley County 1772 John & Wm 14m ac, ws Three Toped Mtn, Shenadoah Co 1847 John 227 ac on Branch Mtn on lead drains of North River & Tucker Run Hardy Co 1854 Joseph 37 ac on Opequon Berkeley Co 1777 Joseph 5 ac on drains of Opequon Berkeley Co 1801 Josehp 113 ac between Hawkbill and Mill Run Berkeley County 1818 Joseph 64 ac es of Main road to Luray in Shenandoah County 1819 Joseph 16 ac Hawksbill Crk Shenandoah 1821 Mary 424 ac on Tear Coat with drains of North River/great Cacaphon Hamsphire Co 1777 Peter 50 ac Drains of Dillon Run Hamsphire Co. 1853 Robert 300 ac on Cedar Creek Frederick Co 1766 Thomas 222 ac Branch of Mill Creek, Shenandoah Co 1779 William 400 ac branch of Cedar Creek, Frederick Co 1753 Three entries were listed for EVENS but probably were for EVANS EVENS Benjamin & Elizabeth Bosely 40 ac on drains of New Creek 1815 Isaac 282 ac Frederick County, adjoins Evans 1751 William 100 ac see William Vance, Frederick Co., 1762 Several notes" Old Frederick County was created in 1744 from Orange County. The original county included lands that were to become Berkeley, Hampshire, Hardy, Jefferson and Morgan in present day WV and in Virginia the counties of Warren, Clarke and parts of Shenandoah. Thus some of the earliest entries- 1744-late 1760's for Frederick might be for lands today found in other counties. In searching the index from which these names were drawn, I was unable to read any of the orginal documents even thjough some were accessible on-line. The copy was too small to read.

I don't know what year the Fairfax line was surveyed, but I'm guessing after 1753. A A CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. XXIV. page 438 1753 Petition for road from Widow Cobern's Mill, on the South Branch, to John Paton's Mill, on the South Fork, at least 30 miles nearer than the road we formerly traveled. A bridle road asked for: William Stephenson, Mathew Patton, Jeremiah Calkin, George West, Peter Reed, Jr., Samuel Patton, Benjamin Patton, Leonard Reed, John Reed, John Knowles, Alexander Crockett, John Patton, Luke Collins, Jacob Reed, Daniel Richardson. C CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. XXIV. page 438 Inhabitants of Bull Pasture and head of Cowpasture petition for a road from Walles Asten's Mill to the road on the head of the Calfpasture: Robert Carrolile, Richard Bodkin, Thomas Wright, John Miller, James Hall, Horcklas Willson, John Carrolile, Samuel Forgerson, Michael Harper, Wm. Price, Philip Phegan, William Carrolile, Loftus Pullen, Mathew Harper, Hance Harper, James Anglen, John Shaw, John Carrolile. Wallas Aston to be overseer. CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. XXIV. page 438 Petition of Andrew and Magdalene Bird, administrators of Andrew Bird. James Porteus was their attorney, but now deceased, 1751. CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. XXIV. page 438 Michael Warring petitions that in his deed from David Johnson, at last May term, consideration (£120) may be inserted. Ancestry.com - Scots-Irish in Virginia, Vol. 1Member Login | My Account | G CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK NO. IV. page 69 Page (9) Ludwick Francisco, qualified Captain; Edward McDaniel, qualified Cornet; Jeremiah Sciler, qualified Captain; Luke Collins, qualified Ensign. CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK NO. IV. page 69 Page (9) Wm. Leeper appointed Constable on New River, vice Adam Harman. John States and Alexr. Painter appointed overseers for a new road from North Mountain Gap, called Brock's Gap, near Thomas Mish, to the mouth of Lost River, leading to North Mountain. Copyright 1998-2000, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries. Database: Full Context of Scots-Irish in Virginia, Vol. 1 Combined Matches: Previous Page Next Page CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. II. page 41 Page (420) David Evans, John Smith, Peter Horse, Henry Horse, John Eby, Hans Eby, Michael Props, Mark Swattle, John Brown, Postley Hover, Michael Stroud, John Walker, (above, to Wm. Dyer, added on motion Alexr. Crockett), Henry Henry, Windell Brown, Peter Creson, Alexr. Skoot, Saml. Skoot, John Skoot, James Skoot, added to list of tithables. CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. II. page 41 Page (421) Benj. Skoot, John Knowles, Joel Hornback, John West, Thomas Crawford, George Baffenbarger, John Christian Carlock, David Craig, John Walker, Jr., George Say, George Say, Jr., Simon Say, John Cunningham, Wm. Cunningham, Henry Landcisco, John Colley, Burket Reager, Henry Carr, Daniel Richardson, Nathaniel Clearey, added to list of tithables. CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. II. page 41 Page (422) Landred Hyard, Landred Hyard, Jr., Rudy Hard, Martin Job, Jacob Job, Luke Collins, Jacob Peters, Jacob Peters, Jr., Martin Peters, John Dunkill, George Dunkill, Peter Moore, Jacob Siver, George Muse, Henry Faney, George Dove, Thomas Dove, Jr., George Yockham, Henry Spear, Samuel Henderson, added to list of tithables. CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800 AUGUSTA COUNTY COURT RECORDS. ORDER BOOK No. II. page 42 Page (423) Abraham Vanderpool, Mathew Uter, Abell Westfall, Anthony Bogard, George Osburn, Jeremiah Osburn, Jeremiah Osburn, Jr., John Osburn, James Simson, Jacob Westfall, Leonard Neiff, John Westfall, Hermanus Skout, Anthony Reger, Anthony Reger, Jr., Michael Rhyne, Peter Reed, George West, Thomas lax, Robert Graham, added to list of tithables. T Copyright 1998-2000, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I wrote Sharon H. Link, Clerk Hampshire Co. Commission P.O. Box 806 Romney, W.VA 26757 I asked her if the index of the old records could be checked for the Umstott name and sent her ten dollars. She wrote back and said there were 4 Umstott names and they would be $5 each. After I sent that, she wrote back and gave me the total amount that would be needed for copying. I sent it to her in November. I have talked to her several times on the phone and found her pleasant and efficient. Evidently, these records are very hard for her to access and it took quite awhile for her to get the copies made but they were good clean copies and she did an excellent job. There has been a lot of talk on this site about the prices charged but I know of no county that doesn't charge for copy and postage as they should. Elizabeth in Texas eperiman@1starnet.com http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: thelma <thelma1@flash.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Hampshire Co. old records. > Elizabeth, > May I please ask where did you send for those records and exactly what did you > ask for? I am so HAPPY for you. > Thelma in Michigan > > Elizabeth Periman wrote: > > > I received the Hampshire Co. records today. I'm so excited my hands are > > shaking. They are all Umstott estate records. It has Peter's and the date on > > it is 1819. The very first item is 7.83 Whiskey. (This is all pounds, not > > dollars) March 21, 1820 the amount of 8.00 was paid for his coffin. > > Jacob's estate was billed in 1818 which proves that he died before his > > father as I had been told. > > Lots of names here and 53 sheets of paper to go through. In addition to > > Peter and Jacob, I also have the records for Conrad and John. What a happy > > surprise! > > Elizabeth in Texas > > eperiman@1starnet.com > > http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <WVHAMPSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> > > To: <WVHAMPSH-D@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 7:56 AM > > Subject: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #50 > > ______________________________

I did a search for South Branch Manor on the google.com search engine, and came up with the following: West Virginia State Archives Manuscript Collections Ms79-198 South Branch Valley Collection http://www.wvculture.org/history/ms79-198.html The manuscript collection has LOTS of personal notes and letters from the late 1700's through the mid-1800's, many original deeds, receipts, affidavits, depositions, papers from court cases, real estate disputes, etcetera. I don't know how to accessthese records short of driving to Charleston, but locating the records is certainly a start. The reason that I got South Branch Valley Collection with a search for South Branch Manor is that an 1801 Rental Roll for South Branch Manor is in the collection. If they have any earlier rental rolls, they're not in this particular collection. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Elizabeth, May I please ask where did you send for those records and exactly what did you ask for? I am so HAPPY for you. Thelma in Michigan Elizabeth Periman wrote: > I received the Hampshire Co. records today. I'm so excited my hands are > shaking. They are all Umstott estate records. It has Peter's and the date on > it is 1819. The very first item is 7.83 Whiskey. (This is all pounds, not > dollars) March 21, 1820 the amount of 8.00 was paid for his coffin. > Jacob's estate was billed in 1818 which proves that he died before his > father as I had been told. > Lots of names here and 53 sheets of paper to go through. In addition to > Peter and Jacob, I also have the records for Conrad and John. What a happy > surprise! > Elizabeth in Texas > eperiman@1starnet.com > http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WVHAMPSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 7:56 AM > Subject: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #50

I found a number of my ancestors under this site http://image.vtls.com/collections/NN.html, it's the lib. of Virginia and is listed under Northern Neck Land Grants. Just click on the name closest to the one your looking for and page through the card file, then you can retrieve the paper work to read online. Some early records of Hardy/Hampshire counties will be found here. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian D Core <greenhouseguy@juno.com> To: <WVHARDY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: South Branch Manor/South Branch Valley > I did a search for South Branch Manor on the google.com search engine, > and came up with the following: > > West Virginia State Archives Manuscript Collections > Ms79-198 South Branch Valley Collection > > http://www.wvculture.org/history/ms79-198.html > > The manuscript collection has LOTS of personal notes and letters from the > late 1700's through the mid-1800's, many original deeds, receipts, > affidavits, depositions, papers from court cases, real estate disputes, > etcetera. I don't know how to accessthese records short of driving to > Charleston, but locating the records is certainly a start. > > The reason that I got South Branch Valley Collection with a search for > South Branch Manor is that an 1801 Rental Roll for South Branch Manor is > in the collection. If they have any earlier rental rolls, they're not in > this particular collection. > > Brian > > Brian D. Core > P.O. Box 1166 > Brighton, CO 80601 > Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy > For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

I received the Hampshire Co. records today. I'm so excited my hands are shaking. They are all Umstott estate records. It has Peter's and the date on it is 1819. The very first item is 7.83 Whiskey. (This is all pounds, not dollars) March 21, 1820 the amount of 8.00 was paid for his coffin. Jacob's estate was billed in 1818 which proves that he died before his father as I had been told. Lots of names here and 53 sheets of paper to go through. In addition to Peter and Jacob, I also have the records for Conrad and John. What a happy surprise! Elizabeth in Texas eperiman@1starnet.com http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <WVHAMPSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 7:56 AM Subject: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #50

Too often, we trace out ancestors back to a locality in Europe,and quit, without learning the history there. Perhaps you trace back to the Scotch-Irish,of ne Ireland, and don't hunt a generation earlier in sw Scotland. There were battles where the Highland Scots opposed the Scotch-Irish. Lumping Scotch,and Scotch-Irish is a mistake. And ne Ireland had many Anglio-Irish. You trace an ancester back to New Netherlands,and say 'Dutch" ,while there were many Flemish, and Walloon's,and French there. New SWEDEN had many FINN'S. The southern part of what,today,is called Germany,had many "countries". And the 30 Years War, and the Plague, had depopulated it. I read of one Prince who had only 3,of 200 ,able-bodied men left. I've read of many fields growing up in grubs,because there were no men left to farm them. So,men were recruited from Switzerland, and Austria, and ?? to repopulate it. And these people migrated after a generation,or less. I've asked the Germania,Va researchers,without being a smart aleck, "Were the Germania people Swiss?" because my reading of Swiss history has turned up names ,like those at Germania. . I think of SWISS neighborhoods in the mountian valleys.of the S BRANCH. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear friends of WV genealogy and local history. This note is a bit political; but, I hope you will understand when you see how it affects what we as genealogists do. Two years ago I had a call from a man in Webster County asking me how he could get permission to visit his wife's grave. She was buried in a family cemetery on land that had formerly belonged to the family. Now the land was sold and the landowners were denying him access to the cemetery. I had to tell him that there was no law permitting him access, that the landowner was within his rights in denying access. Last year a family here in Lewis County ran afoul of the landowner when they tried to bury their mother in what was once a church cemetery. The land around the cemetery had been sold, the new property owner had built a new house across the access road and would not permit the hearse to carry the mother to her final resting place. The case did go to court, a ruling was made for the establishment of a new road (which has not yet been done), and the landowner claims that he doesn't have to permit the family access to visit their mother's grave. Recently, a son of the family, after giving the property owner two weeks notice, was met by a man with a gun when he tried to visit his mother's grave. I know of other similar cases as these scattered around the state. Last year a bill was introduced in the WV Senate that would have addressed these problems. The House did not pass the bill. A couple of weeks ago, the WV Senate passed SB 90 which, if adopted by the House or if combined with a bill from the House would be a step forward in permitting access to family or private cemeteries by cemetery plot owners, heirs of deceased persons, family members of deceased persons and persons interested in engaging in genealogy research for the purposes of visitation of the grave sites, maintenance of the grave site or cemetery or research. It would also create a cause of action for injunctive relief if a person is not permitted access to the cemetery, requires visitors to conduct themselves in a responsible manner and limits the use of motor vehicles when accessing the cemetery. Now the House has HB 4370 in committee. If it does not get out of committee and if it is not acted upon in the next couple of weeks, the bill will die and there will be no relief. You can read HB4370 in its entirety at: http://129.71.161.247/scripts/as_web.exe?hbills2000+D+7832961 You can read the committee version of SB 90 (the one that passed) at: http://129.71.161.247/scripts/as_web.exe?sbills2000+D+9151603 The genealogical and historical communities in West Virginia began acting in concert four years ago when we established History Day at the Legislature. Now is the time for us to get our act even more together and contact our delegates about the importance of this bill!!! The property rights activists are sending negative comments to the sponsors of this bill and others. Let us, West Virginia's genealogists, family researchers and historians, work together to preserve an important part of our history and gain access to our sacred grounds. If you live in West Virginia, please contact your delegate about this bill and getting it out of committee. Some of the people who can help us get this out of committee and hopefully get it approved are Delegates Rick Staten, Bob Ashley, Oscar Hines and the delegates who introduced the bill: Facemyer, Faircloth, L. White, Amores. If you live out of state and want to offer your comments, you can send them snail mail to any of the persons named in last paragraph. Address it to them at the WV House of Delegates, Capitol Building, Charleston, WV 25305 - or send to me via e-mail and I will print them out and take them with me to Charleston next Wednesday evening (for History Day on Thursday). For further information about the legislature you can visit http://www.LEGIS.state.wv.us Some friends and I are sending this to all the county-L lists here in WV. Please feel free to pass it on to others you know who are interested in West Virginia's cemeteries. Thanks for listening (er, reading), folks. Joy Stalnaker Member of the Hacker's Creek Pioneer Descendants WV Archives and History Commission Member Member of Mining Your History Foundation, WV's statewide genealogy association

This Thursday is WV History Day at the capitol building in Charleston. Many county genealogical and historical societies will have displays and attempt to inform our legislators about our needs in these areas. In addition, the state will be honoring History Heroes, individuals for most counties who have done work for history and genealogy at the grassroots level. Hope to see you there. Joy Stalnaker WV Archives and History Commission Member

Let me apologize for having this on three lists. I have narrowed my James White's death between January 1850 and March 22, 1850. Were deaths recorded in 1850? Is there a death book? I would appreciate any help I can get and am willing to pay to get a record of this death. Thelma

<<Which ship and voyage was it? Eda>> Michael Neff and Michael Kohr both arrived in Philadelphia aboard the James Goodwill on 11 September 1728. The ship sailed from Rotterdam, Holland, which was a common point of departure for Germans. Rotterdam is located near the mouth of the Rhine River; Germans used the river to travel from the interior regions to the coast. The ship's passenger list was published in Strassburger & Hinke's Pennsylvania German Pioneers, vol. 1. It can also be found in the PA Archives 2nd Series vol. 17, p. 15. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

John, Could your Neff be connected to the Blickenstaff of Lancaster County, PA. I have a Margaret Neff in my line from Lancaster County. Karyn John Bobo wrote: > > Which ship and voyage was it? Eda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian D Core <greenhouseguy@juno.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] South Branch Manor Rent Rolls > > > <<I frequent that area and there are still PANCAKEs living around > > Mineral/Hampshire.>> > > > > And there were Kohrs and Stumps and Neffs and Pfanenkuchens (Pancakes) in > > old Lancaster Co., PA. I may only be a document or two away from > > connecting my Cores to the Kohrs of Lancaster County. The Neffs and Kohrs > > actually came to America on board the same ship, same voyage. > > > > Brian > > > > Brian D. Core > > P.O. Box 1166 > > Brighton, CO 80601 > > Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy > > For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > >

Which ship and voyage was it? Eda ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian D Core <greenhouseguy@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] South Branch Manor Rent Rolls > <<I frequent that area and there are still PANCAKEs living around > Mineral/Hampshire.>> > > And there were Kohrs and Stumps and Neffs and Pfanenkuchens (Pancakes) in > old Lancaster Co., PA. I may only be a document or two away from > connecting my Cores to the Kohrs of Lancaster County. The Neffs and Kohrs > actually came to America on board the same ship, same voyage. > > Brian > > Brian D. Core > P.O. Box 1166 > Brighton, CO 80601 > Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy > For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >

<<I frequent that area and there are still PANCAKEs living around Mineral/Hampshire.>> And there were Kohrs and Stumps and Neffs and Pfanenkuchens (Pancakes) in old Lancaster Co., PA. I may only be a document or two away from connecting my Cores to the Kohrs of Lancaster County. The Neffs and Kohrs actually came to America on board the same ship, same voyage. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.