Elaine, The Frog Hollow Cemetery is also known as Foreman Graveyard. The graveyard is located on land that was once owned by David Foreman (1755-1795). It is maintained by Marvin Sine of Cold Stream. I believe that I published the inscriptions in my Historical Records....book, integrated alphabetically into the book manuscript. I also published an extensive genealogical history of the Foremans (West Virginia Advocate) which contained photos of reunions held there at the Foreman graveyard. Yes, it is located in Frog Hollow at Cold Stream, which is in between Slanesville and Capon Bridge. Wilmer L. Kerns -----Original Message----- From: Elaine D Tomkins [mailto:edtom@megsinet.net] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:05 PM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: Quaint Names Elizabeth, Frog Spit is definitely one of the best I have heard. You can appreciate how I laughed when I learned that one of my g-grandmother's sisters was reportedly buried in "Frog Hollow Cemetery." Of course, I'm still trying to locate that cemetery with no success thus far. If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them. The family was from the Hanging Rock area (between Augusta & Capon Bridge) and moved across the river to the Flintstone/Oldtown area during the Civil War. I have checked the cemetery in the Frog Hollow area of Oldtown with no success. I know there is a hollow named Frog Hollow in the hills/mtns north of Capon Bridge. Does anyone know if there is a cemetery in that vicinity? This woman died in 1918, and I can't imagine that she was taken back there for burial, but at this point, I am open to any suggestions. Elaine
Hi all, Does anyone have any info on LEWIS families in Hampshire Co in 1780s? I'm searching for the parents/siblings of Thomas Lewis, b. Hardy Co 1788, m. Anna Franklin, 1814, in Ross Co OH, and d. Tippecanoe Co IN , 1841. My thinking is that since Hardy Co was formed only three years before his birth, records of his family (tax lists, land records, church records) could very likely be in Hampshire. Any better ideas out there? Sue
Try "ti ti" in Georgia. They made railroad crossties there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Coverston" <coverston@SCIA.NET> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #238 > > How about "2 egg " Florida? > > Elizabeth Periman wrote: > > > Love the name "Tear Coat Creek". Does someone know the history of the name? > > Of course my favorite is "Frog Spit, Texas" > > Elizabeth in Texas > > eperiman@1starnet.com > > http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <WVHAMPSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> > > To: <WVHAMPSH-D@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:01 AM > > Subject: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #238 >
In Michigan we have Hell, Holly and Christmas, Michigan What a combination, huh? Toots
How about "2 egg " Florida? Elizabeth Periman wrote: > Love the name "Tear Coat Creek". Does someone know the history of the name? > Of course my favorite is "Frog Spit, Texas" > Elizabeth in Texas > eperiman@1starnet.com > http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WVHAMPSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:01 AM > Subject: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #238
Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1361 Surname: McKeever, Cackley, Kackley, Keckley, Swisher, Schweitzer ------------------------- Seeking the following information on Frances Fanny McKeever, born 5 Apr 1796 in Hamshire, VA/WV: date of marriage and place of marriage to Benjamin Cackley (also spelled Kackley and Keckley); information on her parents Paul McKeever and Margaret Swisher or Schweitzer. Both of her parents born in Frederick County, but died in Hampshire County. Frances McKeever is my ggg grandmother and died at the age of 88+ in VanBuren County, Iowa. Thanks.
Would anyone with a copy of Hampshire Co. Deaths (Vicki Horton) be willing to look up SUSAN DAILEY WALL for me? I have been trying to find out what happened to my g-g-uncle's wife, Susan Dailey Wall, after husband William Wall died in 1863. In case anyone else is interested in Daileys, here is what I know so far. Jacob Dailey, b. 1-17-1798, d. 2-17-1860 (buried in Springfield, Hamp. Co.), m. Jane Patterson, b. 1-15-1808, d. 10-5-1885 (buried with Jacob). According to censuses, they lived all their adult lives in Springfield. Children: 1. John, b. abt. 1829, possibly d. 1911 (if it's the right guy!), m. Rebecca S. --?, b. 3-22-1831, d. 9-28-1862 i. Lelia K. or C., b. 1-3-1859, d. 11-16-1890, married a CLARK. ii. Infant son, d. 6-2-1861. I believe John served in the Civil War with the 11th Virginia Cavalry (Confederate). John may have married again; I think I've found him in Westernport, MD in 1880, living with an illegible wife, his daughter Lelia, and a stepson, James W., aged 18. I can't find him in 1870; in 1860 he was living in Frankfort with wife Rebecca and daughter Lelia. 2. Susan Ellen, b. abt. 1831, m. (12-18-1850), William WALL, b. 7-25-1831, d. 11-29-1863 (HOW?), buried in Springfield next to Jacob and Jane Dailey. i. infant son, b. and d. probably early 1850s. Susan and William were living in Westernport in 1860, with William's half-brother Benjamin F. GRENZEBACK (16). In 1870 Susan was a seamstress, living with her younger brother William Dailey; I can't find Benjamin anywhere (he may have being using the WALL name). In 1880 she was living at home with her mother Jane Dailey in Springfield, and two unmarried sisters, Elizabeth and Harriett. I haven't been able to look in the 1900 census. She is a devisee in the 1889 will of her sister Mary Jane Dailey Moore. The abstract I have names her as Susan WADE, but that might be a mistranscription of Wall--I haven't seen the will itself yet. 3. Mary Jane, b. abt. 1833, d. 1889, m. (between 1876 and 1880) John W. MOORE (his 3rd wife), b. 1805, d. 1881. Mary Jane's will mentions sisters Susan and Elizabeth, niece Lilia Clark, and nephew Reginald. 4. Elizabeth, b. abt. 1835, d. ?. 5. James P. Dailey, b. 1-19-1838, d. 5-23-1862. He enlisted in the 33rd Regiment Virginia Volunteer Infantry - Company A (Potomac Guard) on June 6, 1861 as corporal and was made a sergeant on June 25, 1861. He was wounded in action and captured March 23, 1862 at Kernstown; probably died from his wound. Buried in Springfield Hill Cemetery with his parents. 6. Harriett A., b. 5-7-1840, d. 7-22-1885, unmarried. 7. William, b. abt. 1842, d. ??, m. Jenny R. In 1870 they were living in Westernport with sister Susan Wall and a 12-yr-old boy named Malcombe Dailey. Don't see how they could have a 12-year-old son though, since 10 years earlier, in 1860, William (then aged 18) was still unmarried and living with his mother in Springfield. 8. Jacob, b. abt. 1844, d. ?, m. Thomasina ?--, b. abt. 1850 (parents of foreign birth) i. Reginald, b. Dec. 1869. There is also an 11-year-old Kate Dailey living with Jane Dailey, Mary Jane, Harriett and Elizabeth in 1870--I think she may be John's daughter Lelia K. I would be grateful for any information or insights, particularly relating to Susan Dailey Wall, but I've gotten interested in her whole family! Thanks, Martha Grenzeback graymatters2@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Ellen, I was given this hint about hunting old cemeteries from Ferncliff Cemetery which is a very large cemetery in Springfield, Ohio. The man I spoke with said to call a Monument/Marker place that sells stones as they very often have to go to old cemeteries. I had called a funeral director in Tipp City they didn't know where my old cemetery was but I called a Monument/Grave marker place and he told me where and that it had been renamed. I have been searching for this cemetery for 3 years as long as I have been doing researching. Hope this helps someone. Toots
Elizabeth, Frog Spit is definitely one of the best I have heard. You can appreciate how I laughed when I learned that one of my g-grandmother's sisters was reportedly buried in "Frog Hollow Cemetery." Of course, I'm still trying to locate that cemetery with no success thus far. If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them. The family was from the Hanging Rock area (between Augusta & Capon Bridge) and moved across the river to the Flintstone/Oldtown area during the Civil War. I have checked the cemetery in the Frog Hollow area of Oldtown with no success. I know there is a hollow named Frog Hollow in the hills/mtns north of Capon Bridge. Does anyone know if there is a cemetery in that vicinity? This woman died in 1918, and I can't imagine that she was taken back there for burial, but at this point, I am open to any suggestions. Elaine
Love the name "Tear Coat Creek". Does someone know the history of the name? Of course my favorite is "Frog Spit, Texas" Elizabeth in Texas eperiman@1starnet.com http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/periman.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <WVHAMPSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:01 AM Subject: WVHAMPSH-D Digest V00 #238
Ross Johnston's West Virginia Estate Settlements lists a will for James Fleming in Harrison Co.--have you seen that? The date is 12-20-1823, and the devisees are wife MARY and son Emrack. Also listed is a settlement for James, dated 2-6-1836. Other Flemings in Harrison Co.: Edward, Inventory, 1-12-1825; settlement 3-10-1827. Nathan, Will, 2-7-1823, devisees: wife Lydia; sons Archibald, Nathan, Thomas, Wm., Joseph; daughters Eliz. Hays, Rachel Hart, Lydia, Mary, and Jane. Nathan, inventory, 7-21-1825. Copies of these documents can be ordered from the WV Archives, library of WV University, Morgantown, or the DAR library in Washington D.C. Or you could probably order them from the courthouse or see them at a Family History Center. Hope this is useful... Martha Grenzeback graymatters2@juno.com On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:10:55 -0400 Jim Bartlett <jimbartlett@mindspring.com> writes: > James FLEMING b 1744; d 1823; m ? Ann JOHNSON. They lived in > Frederick Co, > MD and were mentioned in John JOHNSON Sr Will (?1767) there. James > was in > the Rev War. After the War they moved to Hampshire Co, VA and were > involved > in a number of deed there. By 1800 they had moved to Harrison Co, > VA. I'm > looking for more details on his life and death and burial place. > Some have > indicated that his roots were in PA - does anyone have any > info/records on > that? Would really like to connect with someone working this line. > I miss > FLEMCLAN9... > > Jim Bartlett jimbartlett@mindspring.com (new) Gaithersburg, MD > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Hi! I have a connection to James Newton Morehead who was a Physician, and a lieutenant in the CSA was killed at the battle of Chancellorsville. I believe it was in 1863 or 64. He was married to my Sarah Mayberry. See 1850 Census, she and two of her siblings were living in the household of her grandparents (Peter & Mary Hass) longtime residents of Hampshire County, Virginia. Do you have any information on what happened to Sarah, did they have any children? What happened to them? I am still looking for information (Dates of Death and where buried) for Catherine Hass Mayberry her mother, and her father was my gggrandfather Israel Mayberry. He was listed on the 1850 Census living in the household of John & Sarah Cooper. I don't know what happened to him. 1850 Census is the last info that I have on any of this family except my ggrandpa Francis aka Frank Mayberry who was Sarah Mayberry Morehouse's brother. He was listed as living in the household of Susan Taylor and eldest son Simon D. Taylor (who was apparently some relation to the Mayberry's or were close friends), my ggrandpa Francis was age 16 on the 1850 Census of Hampshire Co., he shows up later on the 1850 Census of Claiborne Co., Port Gibson, Ms in the household of H. C. Early (initial H stands for Henry) and E. A. Early (Initial stands for Elizabeth + her maiden name was Clark + they were married in Natchez, Adam County, Ms sometime in 1841). Later on the 1870 Census of Grand River Twp., Cass County, Missouri the family appeared on this Census and lo and behold next door was Simon D. Taylor and his family. Apparently they had kept in contact with each other and both moved to Cass County, sometime in 1866 and became next door neighbors. Simon D. Taylor and his family are buried in the Brady Cemetery there in Grand River Twp. Cass Co., Mo I have visited the gravesite. I did not find any marker for my ggrandpa Francis/Frank, so I am still searching for him, I may re-visit that cemetery later. If you make any connection please contact me. I may have contacted you prior to this, I can't remember if I did or not. Thanks, for listening to my story. Bye, Frank Mayberry in Muskogee, Ok Vaughn wrote: > Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum > Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/WV/Hampshire/1357 > > Surname: Muirhead > ------------------------- > > I'm looking for any info on George Muirhead Liveing Hampshire Co in1782. > He sometimes spelled his name George Morehead He had a land grant at Tear > Coat Creek in 1780 > He may have had a daughter Rebecca who married a Nutter, not sure of this. > Any info on this family would sure be appreciated. thanks Vaughn
Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/WV/Hampshire/1358 Surname: MAYBERRY, HASS, SAMUELS, PENNYBACKER, COOPER, TAYLOR ------------------------- I have copied and pasted the following which is also posted to (WVHAMPSH-L). Sorry it's kinda lenghthy. Hi! I have a connection to James Newton Morehead who was a Physician, and a lieutenant in the CSA was killed at the battle of Chancellorsville. I believe it was in 1863 or 64. He was married to my Sarah Mayberry. See 1850 Census, she and two of her siblings were living in the household of her grandparents (Peter & Mary Hass) longtime residents of Hampshire County, Virginia. Do you have any information on what happened to Sarah, did they have any children? What happened to them? I am still looking for information (Dates of Death and where buried) for Catherine Hass Mayberry her mother, and her father was my gggrandfather Israel Mayberry. He was listed on the 1850 Census living in the household of John & Sarah Cooper. I don't know what happened to him. 1850 Census is the last info that I have on any of this family except my ggrandpa Francis aka Frank Mayberry who was Sarah Mayberry Morehouse's brother. He was listed as living in the household of Susan Taylor and eldest son Simon D. Taylor (who was apparently some relation to the Mayberry's or were close friends), my ggrandpa Francis was age 16 on the 1850 Census of Hampshire Co., he shows up later on the 1860 Census of Claiborne Co., Port Gibson, Ms in the household of H. C. Early (initial H stands for Henry) and E. A. Early (Initial stands for Elizabeth + her maiden name was Clark + they were married in Natchez, Adam County, Ms sometime in 1841). Later on the 1870 Census of Grand River Twp., Cass County, Missouri the family appeared on this Census and lo and behold next door was Simon D. Taylor and his family. Apparently they had kept in contact with each other and both moved to Cass County, sometime in 1866 and became next door neighbors. Simon D. Taylor and his family are buried in the Brady Cemetery there in Grand River Twp. Cass Co., Mo I have visited the gravesite. I did not find any marker for my ggrandpa Francis/Frank, so I am still searching for him, I may re-visit that cemetery later. If you make any connection please contact me. I may have contacted you prior to this, I can't remember if I did or not. Thanks, for listening to my story. Bye, Frank Mayberry in Muskogee, Ok
James FLEMING b 1744; d 1823; m ? Ann JOHNSON. They lived in Frederick Co, MD and were mentioned in John JOHNSON Sr Will (?1767) there. James was in the Rev War. After the War they moved to Hampshire Co, VA and were involved in a number of deed there. By 1800 they had moved to Harrison Co, VA. I'm looking for more details on his life and death and burial place. Some have indicated that his roots were in PA - does anyone have any info/records on that? Would really like to connect with someone working this line. I miss FLEMCLAN9... Jim Bartlett jimbartlett@mindspring.com (new) Gaithersburg, MD
Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/WV/Hampshire/1357 Surname: Muirhead ------------------------- I'm looking for any info on George Muirhead Liveing Hampshire Co in1782. He sometimes spelled his name George Morehead He had a land grant at Tear Coat Creek in 1780 He may have had a daughter Rebecca who married a Nutter, not sure of this. Any info on this family would sure be appreciated. thanks Vaughn
The trials for the Olympics ( I think 1992) for various classes of Kayaks were held on the Savage River a tributary of the North Branch but they depended on water release from the Savage River Dam. Today there is also a flood control dam across the North Branch at Bloomington, Md. A number of years ago organized races were held in the Hopeville Canyon area south of Petersburg on the North Fork of the South Branch - this was done in the spring time when the water level was up. There are several outfitters who provide canoe trips on the upper South Branch, but they are not white water trips. A trip through the Trough will take about 4 hours for a 6 mile trip today. "An Atlas of Appalachian Trails to the Ohio River" by Carrie Eldridge discusses the early road systems beginning with Buffalo paths and indian trails. George M. Williams ---------- > From: Catbite <bhaines@tje1.com> > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] More on early roads. > Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:44 PM > > It's not done on the North Branch, just rafting mostly. I think they do on > the South up towards Petersburg. > Becci > > HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > > > They are re-paving the 4 lane out my window. That's what many of us think > > of as roads. > > But not back then. "They " say the NC coastal Indians moved up the South > > Branch,and > > across Pa's Path Valley about 1710-15,moving to NY to jon the 5 Nations. > > Most likely they > > were following buffalo paths from salt lict,to major spring,to salt lick. > > Those 'traces ' were the > > only roads,and only roads needed,besides the river. > > Sarah posted that there were no cabins from Polk's at Hancock,Md to > > Cresap's at Old Town,Md > > so,where were the workers coming from to clear such a road? The common > > thing is > > that the neighbors work on the roads in their neighbohood. This is a > > major highway. Was a > > fee tollpike for many years. Yet,one grandfather kept a team hitched at > > all times to > > pull model T's from a mud hole. The other had a steam engine powered rock > > chusher,on > > Clover Creek, and used his four boys to build his contract of 2 miles of > > gravel turnpike. 1920 era. > > Sarah posted that crossing cow > > paths were better than that road. Even if they made a road,all they > > would be doing is getting rid of those > > fallen trees,and cutting a few others. No rock or gravel. And when the > > mud road became impassable, > > as they all did,just move it. > > We noted,as above,the road going past the big mineral springs at > > Berkley Springs. > > 1st road across Ohio was Zane's Trace, cut by the Zane's for the federal > > govenment in 1796 > > in exchange for land,and ferry rghts at major river > > crossings-Zanesville,Lacaster,and Chilacothe. > > Cut the nearest,and best way. They cut it over a couple Sunfish mountians > > to get to the present > > fish hatchery spring at Latham,Oh. A BUFFALO TRACE. 1796. 1798,the > > new Adams Co,Oh's early > > business was to cut some roads to ferry landings, and to bend that Zane's > > Trace around those mountians. > > They added 10 miles,but likely had a trace to the big Sinking Springs to > > follow. > > Next thing was traces cut to the water powered mills. Flour,corn meal,and > > whiskey. > > Roads were about as much as anything to keep split rail fences from > > blocking the route. > > Sarah posted another thing . The river had enough water from where the > > North and South branches unite > > for water transport by bigger than canoes. > > I've never been exactly in the South Branch,but all around it. I > > understand roads ran around the > > Trough of the South Branch to reach Van Meters at his own Oldtown. > > Question,my grandau spent last weekend white water rafting on WV'S New > > River. Is white water > > rafting done on the North,or South ,Brabches,Potomac? > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >
It's not done on the North Branch, just rafting mostly. I think they do on the South up towards Petersburg. Becci HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > They are re-paving the 4 lane out my window. That's what many of us think > of as roads. > But not back then. "They " say the NC coastal Indians moved up the South > Branch,and > across Pa's Path Valley about 1710-15,moving to NY to jon the 5 Nations. > Most likely they > were following buffalo paths from salt lict,to major spring,to salt lick. > Those 'traces ' were the > only roads,and only roads needed,besides the river. > Sarah posted that there were no cabins from Polk's at Hancock,Md to > Cresap's at Old Town,Md > so,where were the workers coming from to clear such a road? The common > thing is > that the neighbors work on the roads in their neighbohood. This is a > major highway. Was a > fee tollpike for many years. Yet,one grandfather kept a team hitched at > all times to > pull model T's from a mud hole. The other had a steam engine powered rock > chusher,on > Clover Creek, and used his four boys to build his contract of 2 miles of > gravel turnpike. 1920 era. > Sarah posted that crossing cow > paths were better than that road. Even if they made a road,all they > would be doing is getting rid of those > fallen trees,and cutting a few others. No rock or gravel. And when the > mud road became impassable, > as they all did,just move it. > We noted,as above,the road going past the big mineral springs at > Berkley Springs. > 1st road across Ohio was Zane's Trace, cut by the Zane's for the federal > govenment in 1796 > in exchange for land,and ferry rghts at major river > crossings-Zanesville,Lacaster,and Chilacothe. > Cut the nearest,and best way. They cut it over a couple Sunfish mountians > to get to the present > fish hatchery spring at Latham,Oh. A BUFFALO TRACE. 1796. 1798,the > new Adams Co,Oh's early > business was to cut some roads to ferry landings, and to bend that Zane's > Trace around those mountians. > They added 10 miles,but likely had a trace to the big Sinking Springs to > follow. > Next thing was traces cut to the water powered mills. Flour,corn meal,and > whiskey. > Roads were about as much as anything to keep split rail fences from > blocking the route. > Sarah posted another thing . The river had enough water from where the > North and South branches unite > for water transport by bigger than canoes. > I've never been exactly in the South Branch,but all around it. I > understand roads ran around the > Trough of the South Branch to reach Van Meters at his own Oldtown. > Question,my grandau spent last weekend white water rafting on WV'S New > River. Is white water > rafting done on the North,or South ,Brabches,Potomac? > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/WV/Hampshire/1356 Surname: Arnold, Davis ------------------------- I forgot to mention that I am looking for the parents of John w. Davis who was married to Martha Arnold, daughter of ? Hardin Arnold of Hampshire County.
Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/WV/Hampshire/1355 Surname: ------------------------- Martha Arnold (daughter of Hardin Arnold of Hampshire County) was married to John W. Davis and lived in Oldtown, Maryland. Their children were Sarah, Thomas Harry, Alma G., Mary E., Frank, Nellie M., Moses, William W., Bessis E., Gladys G., and Richard A.(from the 1900 Oldtown Federal Census). Moses, born in August of 1889, was my mother's first husband. Moses had four children. Pauleen Davis by his first wife, and James Henry Davis, Janet Madaline Davis and Carroll Anne Davis by his second wife (my mother) before he died in the late 1930's. We are trying to find more information on the family.
They are re-paving the 4 lane out my window. That's what many of us think of as roads. But not back then. "They " say the NC coastal Indians moved up the South Branch,and across Pa's Path Valley about 1710-15,moving to NY to jon the 5 Nations. Most likely they were following buffalo paths from salt lict,to major spring,to salt lick. Those 'traces ' were the only roads,and only roads needed,besides the river. Sarah posted that there were no cabins from Polk's at Hancock,Md to Cresap's at Old Town,Md so,where were the workers coming from to clear such a road? The common thing is that the neighbors work on the roads in their neighbohood. This is a major highway. Was a fee tollpike for many years. Yet,one grandfather kept a team hitched at all times to pull model T's from a mud hole. The other had a steam engine powered rock chusher,on Clover Creek, and used his four boys to build his contract of 2 miles of gravel turnpike. 1920 era. Sarah posted that crossing cow paths were better than that road. Even if they made a road,all they would be doing is getting rid of those fallen trees,and cutting a few others. No rock or gravel. And when the mud road became impassable, as they all did,just move it. We noted,as above,the road going past the big mineral springs at Berkley Springs. 1st road across Ohio was Zane's Trace, cut by the Zane's for the federal govenment in 1796 in exchange for land,and ferry rghts at major river crossings-Zanesville,Lacaster,and Chilacothe. Cut the nearest,and best way. They cut it over a couple Sunfish mountians to get to the present fish hatchery spring at Latham,Oh. A BUFFALO TRACE. 1796. 1798,the new Adams Co,Oh's early business was to cut some roads to ferry landings, and to bend that Zane's Trace around those mountians. They added 10 miles,but likely had a trace to the big Sinking Springs to follow. Next thing was traces cut to the water powered mills. Flour,corn meal,and whiskey. Roads were about as much as anything to keep split rail fences from blocking the route. Sarah posted another thing . The river had enough water from where the North and South branches unite for water transport by bigger than canoes. I've never been exactly in the South Branch,but all around it. I understand roads ran around the Trough of the South Branch to reach Van Meters at his own Oldtown. Question,my grandau spent last weekend white water rafting on WV'S New River. Is white water rafting done on the North,or South ,Brabches,Potomac? ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.