I am forwarding this note at the request of a non-lister: >From: "nursemacd" <nursemacd@yahoo.com> >Subject: Orange & Frederick Co. VA Tithes & Polls... >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:53:12 -0500 > > >Attention: Bad News for researchers of ancestors on the South Branch in the > >late 1740s (Re: Frederick Co. VA 1748 Census being unfound(ed?) > >Good news is that other records do exist. Within some book, probably >available at the Virginia Library, possibly entitled Virginia Tax Records, >are lists of inhabitants during the late 1730's (additional lists undated) >of then very large Orange Co. VA, which included the area of present >Frederick Co. VA, a large portion of present WV and the entirety of KY. I >only have machine copies of a few pages, given to me a few years ago, with a >handwritten note "VA Tax Records by GPC" at the top. A printed note refers >the reader to the following for a full account: "A History of Orange County, >Virginia, from Its Formation in 1734 (O. S.) to the End of the >Reconstruction in 1870, by W. W. Scott, Richmond, Va. Everett Waddry Co., >1907. > >Another 11 pages of machine copies, again with the "VA Tax Records by GPC" >handwritten note at top, include a list of voters, the poll written by a >court clerk at the Winchester, VA courthouse on the 24th Day of July, 1758, >when Col. Washington, Col. Martin, Mr. West and Capt. Swearingen were >running for office. I understand this was the first occasion of George >Washington running for public office, to the House of Burgesses, he won -- >from other writings (votes were made audibly.) Identical names of several >voters appear under two of the runners so I suspect people were voting for >two of the four. While Hampshire Co. VA (WV) was formed in 1754, I suspect >several of these voters in Winchester were from the South Branch area. I >note the names Hite, VanMeter and Ashby for examples, but only a very few >multi-syllable Germanic sounding names. > >Of interest to me is that one "Joseph McDonnell" is listed as voting for >Col.'s Washington and Martin -- the name of my earliest known McDonald >ancestor, whose son, Valentine, was born 11 Jan 1760 at South Branch of the >Potomac River per Valentine's Rev War pension records. Alas, when George >Washington's clerk transposed these courthouse records for his colonel's >official papers, the name 'McDonnell' was written 'McDowell.' > >Possibly a more knowledgeable subscriber may be able to quote the precise >source of these lists. Judging from my copies, the book must measure about >5" x 8" , containing at least 295 pages. Is the "GPC" possibly Genealogy >Publishing Company? > >Whoops....I just found it at http://www.bibliofind.com : >Parks, Gary (with and index by): Virginia Tax Records ; Baltimore: >Genealogical Publishing Co., 1983. First Edition, HB, Fine. Blue cloth >covered boards, gilt titles, A hint of rubbing to the tips. Insides very >clean and fresh, From the Virginia magazine of History and Biography, and >Willian and Mary College Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly, Genealogy >Virginia Tax Records Reference Research Periodical Literatu Tithes Polls >Rent Rolls (UR#:BOOKS003081I) Offered for sale by Bryan Matthews at >US$100.00 > >Maybe an inter-library loan is best..... > >Neil McDonald

Hi --- I missed the first of this discussion, but my Aunt married a DEFFINBAUGH & the family was here in Allegany County in the mid 1700's, first I believe being Peter , & the name was DEVINBAUGH at one time--depending on who could spell better. Most spelled names like they sounded. Just like my Kifer line started in Germany as KEIFFER, went to KEIFER on my 3rd Greatgrandfather's stone, to KIFER on my Greatgrandmother's stone, & stands so today, although some choose the KEIFER spelling. Becci Roland Elliott wrote: > Yeah ,there are some holes left unfilled,so the research goes on.Check the > Deffenbaugh line.My wife Dale F.Hames/Sloat/Deffenbaugh is well researched > and we share a common denominator.r > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JTeveb6441@aol.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 20 22 PM > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] What "great debate?" > > Response to Roland, Message #5, 03 Sep 00; Hampsh-D- #251: My research and > that of others shows clearly that 1) Michael Ernst (whom you seem to refer > to > as Michael Harness) always had the Ernst surname while living on The > Tulpehocken; and 2) that his wife Elisabetha, had the surname Dieffenbach, > of > which Deffenbaugh was a later clerical corruption by non-German clerks; and > that the Tevebaugh surname did not devolve until at least 30 years after > Elisabetha and Michael were married; and 3) that Jurie and Blandina Westfall > didn't even have a daughter named Elizabeth, and the Elizabeth Westfall in > the Abel Westfall family was not born until ten years after the time of > Elisabetha's and Michael's marriage. Not much left to debate? John Tevebaugh

Response to Roland, Message #5, 03 Sep 00; Hampsh-D- #251: My research and that of others shows clearly that 1) Michael Ernst (whom you seem to refer to as Michael Harness) always had the Ernst surname while living on The Tulpehocken; and 2) that his wife Elisabetha, had the surname Dieffenbach, of which Deffenbaugh was a later clerical corruption by non-German clerks; and that the Tevebaugh surname did not devolve until at least 30 years after Elisabetha and Michael were married; and 3) that Jurie and Blandina Westfall didn't even have a daughter named Elizabeth, and the Elizabeth Westfall in the Abel Westfall family was not born until ten years after the time of Elisabetha's and Michael's marriage. Not much left to debate? John Tevebaugh

Attention: Bad News for researchers of ancestors on the South Branch in the late 1740s: A letter, 31 Aug 2000, from the Archives Librarian at The Handley Regional Library in Winchester, Frederick Co., has this to say about that "census:" "I have been searching for this item since we established the archives in 1979." "I have never seen the document...." So, until it is found and certified that it actually existed, that newspaper clipping that quoted from the so-called "census" in the 1920s or 1930s will have to be relegated to your "Not Proved" file. I'm sure we all hope that some day it will be found and verified. John Tevebaugh

Yeah ,there are some holes left unfilled,so the research goes on.Check the Deffenbaugh line.My wife Dale F.Hames/Sloat/Deffenbaugh is well researched and we share a common denominator.r ----- Original Message ----- From: <JTeveb6441@aol.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 20 22 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] What "great debate?" Response to Roland, Message #5, 03 Sep 00; Hampsh-D- #251: My research and that of others shows clearly that 1) Michael Ernst (whom you seem to refer to as Michael Harness) always had the Ernst surname while living on The Tulpehocken; and 2) that his wife Elisabetha, had the surname Dieffenbach, of which Deffenbaugh was a later clerical corruption by non-German clerks; and that the Tevebaugh surname did not devolve until at least 30 years after Elisabetha and Michael were married; and 3) that Jurie and Blandina Westfall didn't even have a daughter named Elizabeth, and the Elizabeth Westfall in the Abel Westfall family was not born until ten years after the time of Elisabetha's and Michael's marriage. Not much left to debate? John Tevebaugh

My quarterly post in case we have new subscribers: SEEKING ANY information on the following EVANS: Caleb Evans and spouse, Eve Wadell, were in Hampshire County circa 1800-1830. They had sons Peter, Alexander, David and Abel. Caleb moved to Ohio and died there. Who were Caleb's parents? WHo were his siblings? Benjamin Evans was in Hampshire County circa 1810. He "married" Priscilla Bosley. They settled in Hardy County by 1830 at Greenland Gap area which is now in Grant County. Their children were: Abraham, Edward (ned), Jacob, Nancy and Elinor. Benjamin gave state of birth on 1850 census as PA. Who were his parents and his siblings?

-----Original Message----- From: Matt Combs <matt_combs@juno.com> To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] National Archives DAR Library is open Friday from 9 - 4, and Sat. afternoon from noon - 4. They charge a $5 fee for full day, and, I believe $3 for half day. You also have Library of Congress. You can check out theirs and the Archives on the web. I know the Archives is open some nites, also possibly Friday. >I am going up to Gaithersburg, MD for a wedding. I will be arriving late Thursday night, with rehearsal and lunch on Friday morning. Wedding is 7:30PM Friday night. I was wondering about the possibility of visiting the Natl Archives for a few hours on Friday, and/or Saturday morning. Does anybody know the hours/procedures, etc? Can anybody suggest alternative libraries? > >Matt >Matt >Matt_Combs@juno.com >http://members.xoom.com/GenHosting/index.html > >

The Archives is on the yellow line. You will be catching the red line in Gaithersburg. You can transfer to the yellow at Metro Center. If you get lost, just ask someone to help. Most Washingtonians are pretty friendly and helpful to strangers to the city. Also, each metro station has an employee at a kiosk. They are helpful as well. -----Original Message----- From: Robert W. Bess, MD [mailto:rwbess@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:29 AM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] National Archives Matt: If you are in Gaithersburg, the best way to get to the Archives is on the Metro. Park in the Gaithersburg Metro Station Parking Lot, and ride the train into the Mall. There are trains every 10 minutes or so. The parking is free and plentyful.. No tarffic to fight and you save 20+ miles of driving. Check the directory for the transfer to the correct line to get to the Arcuives Station. It is on Pennsylvania Ave. just across from the Archives Building. Even though I drive in from Keyser, when I go to downtoen Washington, this is the way to go. Bob Bess ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Combs <matt_combs@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] National Archives > I am going up to Gaithersburg, MD for a wedding. I will be arriving late Thursday night, with rehearsal and lunch on Friday morning. Wedding is 7:30PM Friday night. I was wondering about the possibility of visiting the Natl Archives for a few hours on Friday, and/or Saturday morning. Does anybody know the hours/procedures, etc? Can anybody suggest alternative libraries? > > Matt > Matt > Matt_Combs@juno.com > http://members.xoom.com/GenHosting/index.html > >

Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1395 Surname: SHORT ------------------------- Who were the parents of Susan ( ? ) Short, born 1817, died 1894? Susan ( ? ) Short was born on 3 May 1817 in Virginia. She married John Short ca1838-39 probably in Hampshire County, Virginia. He appears as a married male in the 1840 Federal census, with a wife and no children. Their first child, Mary Elizabeth Short, was born in July 1840, shortly after the 1840 census was taken in Hampshire County. This family appears in the 1850 Federal census taken in Hampshire Co., VA, on page 226, house/family #1167 Short, John age 40 shoemaker, wife Susan, age 35, and their five children. Susan A. Short was born on 3 May 1817 and died on 23 May 1894. She is buried by her husband in the Kump graveyard, at North River Mills in Hampshire County, WV. Any information on this family will be appreciated.

Matt: If you are in Gaithersburg, the best way to get to the Archives is on the Metro. Park in the Gaithersburg Metro Station Parking Lot, and ride the train into the Mall. There are trains every 10 minutes or so. The parking is free and plentyful.. No tarffic to fight and you save 20+ miles of driving. Check the directory for the transfer to the correct line to get to the Arcuives Station. It is on Pennsylvania Ave. just across from the Archives Building. Even though I drive in from Keyser, when I go to downtoen Washington, this is the way to go. Bob Bess ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Combs <matt_combs@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] National Archives > I am going up to Gaithersburg, MD for a wedding. I will be arriving late Thursday night, with rehearsal and lunch on Friday morning. Wedding is 7:30PM Friday night. I was wondering about the possibility of visiting the Natl Archives for a few hours on Friday, and/or Saturday morning. Does anybody know the hours/procedures, etc? Can anybody suggest alternative libraries? > > Matt > Matt > Matt_Combs@juno.com > http://members.xoom.com/GenHosting/index.html > >

Hi, I just put the June 30, 1911 Keyser Tribune articles on the Mineral County USGenWeb Page. You can view these articles at; http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvminera/keynews.htm Enjoy! :) Patti McDonald Burlington WV mcd@access.mountain.net Co-Coordinator Mineral County USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvminera/mineral.htm Subscribe to Mineral County Mailing List WVMINERA-L-request@rootsweb.com Surnames I am researching: HARTMAN, WOLFE, MILLER, FLEEK, WHITEMAN, PUFFENBARGER, FITZPATRICK, COOKUS, CORBUS, DYE, WALSH

www.nara.gov is the website. Research hours on Friday are 9am? to 5pm. Enter thru the back of the National Archives, show your drivers license, and go to Room 400. Probably the most likely source you will use will be the census microfilm from 1790 to 1920. Do go prepared with an idea what years/locations you want to lookup. Douglas Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Matt Combs [mailto:matt_combs@juno.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:33 PM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] National Archives I am going up to Gaithersburg, MD for a wedding. I will be arriving late Thursday night, with rehearsal and lunch on Friday morning. Wedding is 7:30PM Friday night. I was wondering about the possibility of visiting the Natl Archives for a few hours on Friday, and/or Saturday morning. Does anybody know the hours/procedures, etc? Can anybody suggest alternative libraries? Matt Matt Matt_Combs@juno.com http://members.xoom.com/GenHosting/index.html

I am going up to Gaithersburg, MD for a wedding. I will be arriving late Thursday night, with rehearsal and lunch on Friday morning. Wedding is 7:30PM Friday night. I was wondering about the possibility of visiting the Natl Archives for a few hours on Friday, and/or Saturday morning. Does anybody know the hours/procedures, etc? Can anybody suggest alternative libraries? Matt Matt Matt_Combs@juno.com http://members.xoom.com/GenHosting/index.html

Mary Combs, wife of James Gibson Combs, was the daughter of James and Anna ___ Combs. Glenn, you may have got the answer by now, I was on vacation. ----------------------------------------------------- Bill Pyles, Titusville, FL --New e-mail address: WPyles@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Smith" <gsmith@azalea.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:12 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] COMBS, RUCKMAN FAMILIES > Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1338 > > Surname: > ------------------------- > > > Who are the parents of Mary Combs who married Gibson Ruckman? > Mary Combs, born about 1810, prob. in Hampshire County, married Gibson > Ruckman, about 1830 in Hampshire County. They had six children living when > she died about 1849. Gibson Ruckman appears in the 1850 Federal census, > Hampshire Co., VA, pg. 150B. Anna Combs, age 64, appears in the household, > with this family. She is possibly the widow of James Combs, and the mother-in-law > of Gibson Ruckman. I will exchange documented information on these families. >

Elaine, Who was Kelly? What did he do? He's buried here the grave yard beside my property--you know , the big one.There isn't a David here, could he have been buried in another Kifer cemetery that we didn't go to? Remember where I told you I used to live-- that it was Kifer land? there is supposed to be another Cemetery there & Stumps used to live there too. Must have been David? There is a Mrs. George Stump & children buried in the Catholic Cemetery(the little one beside of the big one), that's all it says on her stone, no dates, no first name, & the children are on separate stones-- Infant, Susie & I think there were more , but the stones are gone. I remember when I was a kid seeing more stones there. Long winded tonight!!:) Becci Elaine D Tomkins wrote: > Becci, > > Kelly Stump was the son of my gg-aunt, Chloe (McCulley)Stump and David Stump. He > was married to Nora Nuse. Digging up info on him has been slow, but I have made > some progress. Can you tell me what you know of him? Do you know if his father, > David, is buried in Oldtow? His mother is buried in Rose Hill, but neither her > first husband, David Stump, nor her second husband, Benjamin Moreland, is buried > with her. > > Elaine > > Catbite wrote: > > > Do you have a Kelly Stump in your line? There are Stumps buried in Oldtown, > > Allegany County, Md. > > Becci > > > > Deanne Stump wrote: > > > > > Dear G. > > > Although not directly related, I think that we are as my husbands > > > line is Peters. We fall under Joseph who I think is Elizabeth's brother. > > > >From Joseph to William B. to John W. to Eugene through to my husband. I too > > > have been researching for around 15 yrs. I have two very old bibles, one > > > Jacob Stump Jr.inscribed on the front. also loads of old pictures > > > unfortunately not all can be identified. Its nice to here from family and > > > maybe we can share. I have three children listed by John Newman. > > > Yours In Friendship, > > > Deanne Stump > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: G. Smith <gsmith@ok.azalea.net> > > > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:26 PM > > > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] STUMP-MOORE FAMILIES > > > > > > >Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum > > > >Reply Here: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1389 > > > > > > > >Surname: STUMP, MOORE, NEWMAN > > > >------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Elizabeth Stump, the daughter of Peter and Catherine (Widen) Stump, was > > > >born about 1782, probably in Pennsylvania. Her family moved to Loudoun > > > >Co., VA, where, according to a research article by Wilmer L. Kerns, she > > > >married Henry Moore about 1798-99. The Stump and Moore families moved to > > > >Hampshire County, Virginia about 1808. Henry died in Little Cacapon Valley > > > >in 1814. Sometimes after that, Elizabeth (Stump) Moore remarried to John > > > >Newman. According to Wilmer Kerns, Elizabeth had five children by Henry > > > >Moore and two children by her second marriage to John Newman. > > > >I would like to exchange information with others researching these families > > > >and their descendants.

Nancy, Could you send me his birth and death dates? Maybe it will help me narrow a time frame down. Thelma anita phillips wrote: > Thelma > > He married my ancestor Nancy Statton. I don't have much for you except > birth and death dates. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com.

I am going to PA next week to do research in the Tulpehocken area (now Berks Co) on several families who settled in the South Branch. If you are researching a family that came to the South Branch from the Tulpehocken Valley ca 17402-1760s, please send me the name and dates they arrived in VA/WV if known. Thanks, Sara Patton

Dear Elaine and Becci I have Eugene and his wife Nancy buried in Rose Hill. Eugene's sister Lorena is also buried there. Eugene and Lorena were John W. Stumps children. John W was William B's son. John W's first wife was Rhoda Catlett. Second wife was Jennie Showalter daughter from her was Bessie M. I have never found her. John died of blood poisoning in Keyser, W.Va. He was a railroader. Deanne -----Original Message----- From: Elaine D Tomkins <edtom@megsinet.net> To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] STUMP-MOORE FAMILIES >Becci, > >Kelly Stump was the son of my gg-aunt, Chloe (McCulley)Stump and David Stump. He >was married to Nora Nuse. Digging up info on him has been slow, but I have made >some progress. Can you tell me what you know of him? Do you know if his father, >David, is buried in Oldtow? His mother is buried in Rose Hill, but neither her >first husband, David Stump, nor her second husband, Benjamin Moreland, is buried >with her. > >Elaine > >Catbite wrote: > >> Do you have a Kelly Stump in your line? There are Stumps buried in Oldtown, >> Allegany County, Md. >> Becci >> >> Deanne Stump wrote: >> >> > Dear G. >> > Although not directly related, I think that we are as my husbands >> > line is Peters. We fall under Joseph who I think is Elizabeth's brother. >> > >From Joseph to William B. to John W. to Eugene through to my husband. I too >> > have been researching for around 15 yrs. I have two very old bibles, one >> > Jacob Stump Jr.inscribed on the front. also loads of old pictures >> > unfortunately not all can be identified. Its nice to here from family and >> > maybe we can share. I have three children listed by John Newman. >> > Yours In Friendship, >> > Deanne Stump >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: G. Smith <gsmith@ok.azalea.net> >> > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:26 PM >> > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] STUMP-MOORE FAMILIES >> > >> > >Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum >> > >Reply Here: >> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1389 >> > > >> > >Surname: STUMP, MOORE, NEWMAN >> > >------------------------- >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >Elizabeth Stump, the daughter of Peter and Catherine (Widen) Stump, was >> > >born about 1782, probably in Pennsylvania. Her family moved to Loudoun >> > >Co., VA, where, according to a research article by Wilmer L. Kerns, she >> > >married Henry Moore about 1798-99. The Stump and Moore families moved to >> > >Hampshire County, Virginia about 1808. Henry died in Little Cacapon Valley >> > >in 1814. Sometimes after that, Elizabeth (Stump) Moore remarried to John >> > >Newman. According to Wilmer Kerns, Elizabeth had five children by Henry >> > >Moore and two children by her second marriage to John Newman. >> > >I would like to exchange information with others researching these families >> > >and their descendants.

The great debate is Michael Ernst/Harness and Elizabeth Tevebaugh/Deffenbaugh-Westfall,Please lest me know what you find.R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Patton" <sarap@widomaker.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 15 39 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tulpehocken Valley of PA I am going to PA next week to do research in the Tulpehocken area (now Berks Co) on several families who settled in the South Branch. If you are researching a family that came to the South Branch from the Tulpehocken Valley ca 17402-1760s, please send me the name and dates they arrived in VA/WV if known. Thanks, Sara Patton

Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1393 Surname: CREGER, CREAGER, KRIEGER, CRIGER, CREEGER ------------------------- I am researching the Creger/Creager surname. My search has taken me to Jacob Creger, Sr., who moved to Tuscarwas County, OH., in 1811. Some information I have recently found suggests he may have come from or through Hampshire County, WV, on his way to Ohio. Jacob Creger Sr. was born approximately 1763 (in "VA" according to 1820/1830 census records), and it is possible he was born in Hampshire County, as well as any of children: Peter, b. 1793; John, b. 1802); Henry, b. 1803; Jacob Jr., b. 1799, Catherine, Margaret, and Sarah. Jacob Sr.'s wife was named Sharlot/Charlotte. Jacob moved onto land in Ohio he bought from George Kail, who I have been told was born in the Capon Valley area of Hampshire County. It may be the two families knew each other in Hampshire County before moving on to Ohio. I can be contacted via the e-mail address indicated or at 4217 Starr St., Lincoln, NE 68503, or (402) 471-6882 (work days).