Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1406 Surname: Park ------------------------- David and Cecilia Parke have just published a book detailing the ancestry and descendants of Dr. Roger Parke of Hunterdon Co., NJ. This should include the ancestry of Anne Park, daughter of John Park II and Mary ______ and wife of James Smith. Their email address is davcel@gate.net

Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1405 Surname: SMITH, Parks ------------------------- looking for information on James Smith and his descendants. James was in Hampshire before 1800

--part1_97.ac0ecc2.26f50dce_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_97.ac0ecc2.26f50dce_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye01.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.15) with ESMTP; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:52:50 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:52:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e8GFp4n20502; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:51:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:51:04 -0700 X-Original-Sender: lachance@ccis.com Sat Sep 16 08:51:04 2000 Message-ID: <39C395B0.5072F750@ccis.com> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 08:45:52 -0700 From: LaChance <lachance@ccis.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ARONHOLT References: <9f.abb57f3.26f47b2e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4DqplD.A.JAF.ob5w5@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1597 X-Loop: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L-request@rootsweb.com Gary, I couldn't find that name but did find several others starting with ARON (Swedish) A form of AARON (lofty mountain). AARON is usually of Jewish origin, but some Gentiles bore the name, too. Then I found HOLT, meaning DWELLER. So, perhaps the name means something like "someone who lived near/on the mountain"? Barbara GLRadcliffe@aol.com wrote: > May I please have a lookup on ARONHOLT? English, French and Teutonic > meanings and spellings all welcome. > > Gary Radcliffe > glradcliffe@aol.com > > ==== SURNAME-ORIGINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ==== SURNAME-ORIGINS Mailing List ==== FAQ for SURNAME-ORIGINS-L: http://members.tripod.com/~Genealogy_Infocenter/surname-origins.html ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ --part1_97.ac0ecc2.26f50dce_boundary--

Other good points hit here. In the 1700s, few could read and write. There were ethnicities that seldom interacted and probably could not understand each other very well. Not census entries of whether the named person could read, write, country of origin, etc. Add in the concept that ethnics stayed within their group and geography/proximity was a significant factor. Say MORNIN or MURNANE as quick as you can 5 times. Don't they sound the same? ----- Original Message ----- From: <GLRadcliffe@aol.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Arnold Revisited > Exactly, Wilmer. Without research we can be misled for generations. > > My Mornin ancestors were Murnane in Ireland. Also in America, the > name was written as Marnin, Mourning and Morning. > > It's easy to hear Arnold when the German speaker says "Arnholt or > Arnholdt." Many clerks would automatically write ARNOLD. > > An Arnold was accused of murdering my gggg-grandfather in what is > now Lewis County, West Virginia in 1784 but later acquitted. Two > renegade Indians were blamed. After all, he was scalped and butchered. > No Arnold would do THAT. Thanks for your input. > > Gary Radcliffe > glradcliffe@aol.com >

The reason I asked the original question is along this line. I have seen about 10 spellings of ARONHOLT and all sound similar to ARNOLD. Germanic pronunciation almost all the ten are very close to ARNOLD. Another reason is I have a bit of info from 1800's that an ARNOLD had changed his name back to the old english spelling as ARONHOLT. Supposedly, this was a Mineral Co person. _______________ Personal experience. I wrote down most of the ancestral stories from my parents and some grand parents/uncles/aunts. Many proved to be twisted, to varying extent, but most had elements of truth. Additionally, the stories are loaded with clues that give me things/persons/places to search and disprove or validate. With the high level of proof, I feel the ones I could not validate were because I could not find the actual evidence. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilmer L. Kerns" <wlkerns@intr.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [WVHAMPSH-L] Arnold - Origin and meaning > Gary, > > The Arnolds of Beaver Run (Mineral County) were German. A good reference is > Allegheny Passage, 1990, by Dr. Emmert Bittinger. The Arnolds of Cacapon > Valley were English. > > Wilmer > > -----Original Message----- > From: GLRadcliffe@aol.com [mailto:GLRadcliffe@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:14 AM > To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Arnold - Origin and meaning > > > Arnold is an English name. While there are French and German > versions of the name, Arnold remains English. The word is > translated to mean "Eagle-Gracious," Eagle-Mighty" and related > translations. > > While it is possible that a German immigrant named Aronholt changed his > name or had it changed to Arnold, there is every reason to believe > that the progenitor of this family was English. > > There were Arnolds in Virginia in the 1700s and also in England > many hundreds of years ago. > > Gary Radcliffe > glradcliffe@aol.com >

That is one presumption. ARONHOLTs were from ENG to VA 1700-ish. ARONHOLT descendants owned the land containing the ARONOLD Cemetary -- in the 1700s. Anyone else every heard/found anything about ARNOLD as ARONHOLT or similar spelling??? ----- Original Message ----- From: <GLRadcliffe@aol.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:13 AM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Arnold - Origin and meaning > Arnold is an English name. While there are French and German > versions of the name, Arnold remains English. The word is > translated to mean "Eagle-Gracious," Eagle-Mighty" and related > translations. > > While it is possible that a German immigrant named Aronholt changed his > name or had it changed to Arnold, there is every reason to believe > that the progenitor of this family was English. > > There were Arnolds in Virginia in the 1700s and also in England > many hundreds of years ago. > > Gary Radcliffe > glradcliffe@aol.com >

Elaine: Thank you so much. I live closer to LaVale, MD. than I do Moorefield, even tho' I live in Mineral County, WV I didn't even know about the Family LDS Center in LaVale. I've lived in this area all my life, 62 yrs. of it. Thanks again. Your help is always appreciated. Best Wishes, Barbara Elaine D Tomkins wrote: > Barbara, > > If William did not appear with his family on the 1870 Census, he no doubt > died before that time. If he died as a result of the war, his death > probably won't be recorded in county death records. What you need to do is > check Hardy Co. birth records for Ida Bell to verify her date of birth. Her > birth record will give the names of her parents. You could go to the Hardy > Co. Courthouse in Moorefield to see the records first-hand, or (depending > upon which is closer to you) to the LDS/Family History Center in LaVale. > There you can order the microfilm of the birth records for about $2.50. The > microfilm will be available about 2 wks after ordering where they will keep > it for about a month for you to come and view during their operating hours. > The Family History Center is located at > 12205 Gramlick Rd SW > La Vale, Allegany County, Maryland, United States > Phone: (301) 724-1609 > Hours: T-W 1-4pm, 6-9pm. > It would be a good idea to call first and verify that these times are still > current.

Barbara, If William did not appear with his family on the 1870 Census, he no doubt died before that time. If he died as a result of the war, his death probably won't be recorded in county death records. What you need to do is check Hardy Co. birth records for Ida Bell to verify her date of birth. Her birth record will give the names of her parents. You could go to the Hardy Co. Courthouse in Moorefield to see the records first-hand, or (depending upon which is closer to you) to the LDS/Family History Center in LaVale. There you can order the microfilm of the birth records for about $2.50. The microfilm will be available about 2 wks after ordering where they will keep it for about a month for you to come and view during their operating hours. The Family History Center is located at 12205 Gramlick Rd SW La Vale, Allegany County, Maryland, United States Phone: (301) 724-1609 Hours: T-W 1-4pm, 6-9pm. It would be a good idea to call first and verify that these times are still current.

I am researching Surname--Moreland. I have found in the Hardy County 1860 census: William Moreland 37 B. VA Rebecca 29, b.VA w/son John T. 8 y/o. Somone was kind enough to send me info on the 1870 Hardy County census with Rebecca Moreland 39, living w/Elsay O'Brion 68 (F) Plus a Joseph Moreland 13 y/o Also a male Hiram Fesic age 41. All in same house. Does anyone have access to 1880 census of Hardy, Hampshire or Mineral County? I wonder what happened to William between 1860 and 1870. My gr-grandmother - Ida Bell Moreland was born Oct. 6, 1872, I have no confirmation on her birthdate, but I happened to have been present when she died, so I know she was here. :)... She had 2 brothers Joseph and John T. I have info that John died in 1877 at age of 26 yrs. I feel we are getting close, but need help. Any info or help is gratefully appreciated. Thank you to anyone who can help. There are so many years in between here that I wonder if William died before Ida Bell was born & perhaps someone else is her father. Once again, thanks for any help. Barbara in Mineral County, WV

Exactly, Wilmer. Without research we can be misled for generations. My Mornin ancestors were Murnane in Ireland. Also in America, the name was written as Marnin, Mourning and Morning. It's easy to hear Arnold when the German speaker says "Arnholt or Arnholdt." Many clerks would automatically write ARNOLD. An Arnold was accused of murdering my gggg-grandfather in what is now Lewis County, West Virginia in 1784 but later acquitted. Two renegade Indians were blamed. After all, he was scalped and butchered. No Arnold would do THAT. Thanks for your input. Gary Radcliffe glradcliffe@aol.com

Gary, The Arnolds of Beaver Run (Mineral County) were German. A good reference is Allegheny Passage, 1990, by Dr. Emmert Bittinger. The Arnolds of Cacapon Valley were English. Wilmer -----Original Message----- From: GLRadcliffe@aol.com [mailto:GLRadcliffe@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:14 AM To: WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Arnold - Origin and meaning Arnold is an English name. While there are French and German versions of the name, Arnold remains English. The word is translated to mean "Eagle-Gracious," Eagle-Mighty" and related translations. While it is possible that a German immigrant named Aronholt changed his name or had it changed to Arnold, there is every reason to believe that the progenitor of this family was English. There were Arnolds in Virginia in the 1700s and also in England many hundreds of years ago. Gary Radcliffe glradcliffe@aol.com

Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/WV/Hampshire/1404 Surname: Anderson, Stamper ------------------------- I'm on a fishing expedition as I have reached a dead end in trying to research my Anderson line. This is the family story told to me by my grandmother: Her mother's name was Mary Anderson whose parents were Wyley Anderson and Sarah A. Stamper. All of them were born in Virginia, the only birth record I have says Mary was born in 1851 in Va. The story goes that they were run out of the part of Va. that became West Va. during the Civil War because they were pro-southern and came to Ky. thru Cumberland Gap. The only one that stayed in Ky. was my ggrandmother Mary who married Mike Simpson. Does this story ring any bells with anyone? The rest of the family moved on to Texas. Help!!!

Arnold is an English name. While there are French and German versions of the name, Arnold remains English. The word is translated to mean "Eagle-Gracious," Eagle-Mighty" and related translations. While it is possible that a German immigrant named Aronholt changed his name or had it changed to Arnold, there is every reason to believe that the progenitor of this family was English. There were Arnolds in Virginia in the 1700s and also in England many hundreds of years ago. Gary Radcliffe glradcliffe@aol.com

If anyone runs across a James White d. 1846 buried somewhere along or in South Branch please email me............thelma1@ameritech.net Tootsie DanlHarris wrote: > There are some old stones in the cemetaries around that area that are carved > from slate. I didn't notice the dates, but believe they were early 1800's. > > Dan H > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HERMON B FAGLEY" <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 5:55 AM > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] 1700's Cemetaries How early a tombstone? > > > Here just east of Cincinnati,settled 1795, 1817 seems the 1st year an > > engraved tombstone > > could be bought, but I know of exceptions "just "without the county. > > 1798-1800-1803. > > Noby need research it,but how early a tombstone is found on the South > > Branch,settled 1740 era? > > We have creek stone,with,or without initials,for earlier, > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:02:30 -0500 graymatters2@juno.com writes: > > > You're welcome! > > >

There are some old stones in the cemetaries around that area that are carved from slate. I didn't notice the dates, but believe they were early 1800's. Dan H ----- Original Message ----- From: "HERMON B FAGLEY" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] 1700's Cemetaries How early a tombstone? > Here just east of Cincinnati,settled 1795, 1817 seems the 1st year an > engraved tombstone > could be bought, but I know of exceptions "just "without the county. > 1798-1800-1803. > Noby need research it,but how early a tombstone is found on the South > Branch,settled 1740 era? > We have creek stone,with,or without initials,for earlier, > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:02:30 -0500 graymatters2@juno.com writes: > > You're welcome! > > > > Arnold Cemetery, Route 1/1, Green Spring, WV, Recorded December, > > 1991, by > > Vicki Horton (Springfield District Cemeteries, p. 137) > > > > Arnold, David--Died Oct 5, 1855; Aged 58 yr 2 mo 1 dy > > Arnold, Mary--Died Sept 25, 1875; Aged 71 yr 3 mo 9 dy; wife of > > David > > Arnold > > Hass, Sarah J--Died Nov 21, 1858; Aged 33 yr 10 mo 22 dy; wife of Wm > > Hass > > Hass, Sallie A--Died Aug 9, 1877; Aged 1 yr 7 mo 2 dy; dau of DA & > > EH > > Hass > > Hass, William--Born June 28, 1820--Died May 29, 1904; Aged 83 yr 11 > > mo 1 > > dy > > > > Martha Grenzeback > > graymatters2@juno.com > > > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:21:34 EDT Joone1498@aol.com writes: > > > Hi Martha, > > > > > > I would like very much a lookup on the Arnold graves. Thanks so > > > much for > > > your kind offer. > > > > > > June Schultz > > > joone1498@aol.com > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

Some remarked to me that the older ENG version of ARNOLD was ARONHOLT. Anybody know any info on this? Dan Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: <graymatters2@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] 1700's Cemetaries -- Lower Sourth Branch > You're welcome! > > Arnold Cemetery, Route 1/1, Green Spring, WV, Recorded December, 1991, by > Vicki Horton (Springfield District Cemeteries, p. 137) > > Arnold, David--Died Oct 5, 1855; Aged 58 yr 2 mo 1 dy > Arnold, Mary--Died Sept 25, 1875; Aged 71 yr 3 mo 9 dy; wife of David > Arnold > Hass, Sarah J--Died Nov 21, 1858; Aged 33 yr 10 mo 22 dy; wife of Wm Hass > Hass, Sallie A--Died Aug 9, 1877; Aged 1 yr 7 mo 2 dy; dau of DA & EH > Hass > Hass, William--Born June 28, 1820--Died May 29, 1904; Aged 83 yr 11 mo 1 > dy > > Martha Grenzeback > graymatters2@juno.com > > > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:21:34 EDT Joone1498@aol.com writes: > > Hi Martha, > > > > I would like very much a lookup on the Arnold graves. Thanks so > > much for > > your kind offer. > > > > June Schultz > > joone1498@aol.com > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

I have wrote to Charleston for other records pertaining to W.Va.. The service was excellent. I was careful to be accurate in explaining what I needed, and sent the appropriate funds. They have a web site that lists what they have to offer. <A HREF="http://www.wvculture.org/history/">West Virginia Archives and History</A> http://www.wvculture.org/history

Hi Elaine and others who may be interested, Several months ago I visited the Hampshire Co. Courthouse and copied ALL the PARKER Wills available there. I asked about the "Basement Reocrds". The Clerk did provide me with a copy of all the PARKER Wills, Administrative Bonds, Appraisals and Sales, Orphan Acc'ts. Appointment of Guardians, Wills & Probates, etc. which were listed as being in the "Basement Records". She also provided me with the an Address in Charleston of where to write to obtain copies of these documents. At this time, I don't know if they are available by writing Charleston and requesting copies of these Lost Records. Has anyone written Charleston and actually received copies of any of these Documents??? Seems some listed would be of great help in my PARKER research. And in case someone has come across PARKER in their Lines. I am looking for data of ROBERT PARKER d. 1817, he also left a Will in Allegany Co. Maryland, naming wife--MARY, Children; BENJAMIN (m: 3 times---Mary Fichtner/Victor, 2nd; Rachel Ward, 3rd; Sarah Elizabeth Nixon), ROBERT, JR. (may have married Peggy Miller in 1819), NANCY, m; John Anderson, SARAH, WILLIAM, and MARY MARGARET "Polly" Parker, (m; 1st Frederick Sapp (d. 1817) m; 2nd; Thomas J. Porter in 1819 Allegany Co.MD. but they moved to Knox Co. Ohio in early 1820's) Would love to hear from anyone with PARKER information or those intermarried with Parkers. Also, if anyone has written and received copies of those "Basement Records" from Charleston, WV. ???? Thanks for any help, suggestions and directions, it is truly appreciated. Pat Hook

Adina, This William Hiett apparently was the third son of John Hiett, Sr. (who remained in Pa.). The three sons, John Jr., George, & Wm. migrated to old Frederick Co. Personally, I concern myself mostly with the line of John Jr. since he is the only one who settled in what is now Hampshire Co. and is the progenitor of the Hampshire Co. Hiett's, including mine. Elaine

Morning List, I called the Hampshire County Court house yesterday. I was quickly told that the records for the times area I was looking for, had been sent to the State Archives. I was also told that the will I was looking for was not there, and wasn't sure if it was in with the things that were sent to archives. I know the will exsists. Because I have the filing date. I know if it were me , I would have taken inventory of everything that was shiped to archives. Calling to court house did not help in locating the will. So continues the paper chase. Elizabeth Elaine D Tomkins wrote: > Mike, > > First of all, I think someone has played "fast & loose" with the "old basement > records." The Hampshire Co. Library has a copy of each version of William Rice's > [unfinished] index to the old basement records, the first typewritten version (also > at the courthouse), and the published "book" version which should be called a > booklet. They are not the same. I found some items listed in the later published > version that included items that had started out upstairs and for some reason were > transferred to the ones from the basement. I know this because the wills of Larkin > Day Henderson and his son Thos. F. Henderson (my gg and g-grandfathers) had been > listed in an index (or abstract) of wills in a book published in 1995 which I saw > at the library. I also found them listed in Rice's published index. When I looked > for them in July in those boxes up on the shelf in the courthouse where the wills > are kept, they were not there, so I had to order them--to be ordered from the State > Archives where the old records had been sent. Two days later when I visited my > aunt in Cumberland, she had copies of those two wills, and has had them for years. > So I would like to know why the "switcheroo," and I wonder how many other records > received this treatment. Obviously they were upstairs with the others in 1995, and > I would be willing to bet that if I had ordered them before Mr. Rice came into the > picture, they would have been found with the others upstairs. I have since > received copies of the two wills, but not of another item listed in his index which > I ordered. > > Ann H., the old basement records are in the WV State Archives in Charleston in the > process of restoration and microfilming. To get a copy of any of them, one must > place an order with the Hampshire Co. Clerk of Court, who will in turn order it > from the State Archives. They will send you a bill with the copies. You will be > charged a search fee and a copy fee, all lumped into one amount, not itemized. I > believe that someone on this list had purchased Mr. Rice's "book" and had offered > to do lookup's. Perhaps if you requested a lookup here on the list, they could > tell you if the will you are seeking is in that index. That would be especially > useful since the only version of Rice's index I saw at the courthouse was the first > typewritten one, which was different from the later published version. > > Elaine > > Veerle Foreman wrote: > > > Well, SUPPOSEDLY, a vast number of the papers from Hampshire that were "lost" > > have been found and they are in the process of being filmed for security > > purposes. As to what all was found remains a great, unpublicized mystery and it > > is also not clear when or how an index will be prepared and access or copies > > granted.