Hello! The stuff I saw by the breeched wall was soil, not sawdust although what was covering a good bit of the floor could very well have been sawdust. Didn't notice any lilac but certainly could have been there. I didn't mean that the cottages had cutsey names. I thought the streets did though. Some of the cottages were beautiful. One was for sale and if it wssn't so darned remote and I wasn't so darned old I would seriously consider buying it. Glad you gave the name of the cemetery. I thought the woman used a name starting with an O although there is no name like it on the tombstones. Our informant gave it the same name as that of the woman who owns the house next door. I didn't quite catch the name she used. Can you tell me how to find the old buildings from the old store? Thank you Pixi DanlHarris wrote: > > Called the RUSSELL Cemetary. Right on RUGGLE's Rd. > > The walls are filled with saw dust. Saw dust used to be used as insulation. > Floor was wood covered with dirt and rotting saw dust. Also, old fashioned > lilac. > > The B&O photos show the dirt road crossing the railroad, so the viaduct must > have been a recent item. Right there at the viaduct is FRENCH's Station. > The station stood on the river side of the railroad and 30-40' upstream > (left). > > The sub-divided area is FRENCH's Neck East. > > One of those cutsey, cottage names was mine. > > Dan H >

I can't find my list of early South Branch Manor lot holders, but Sara Patton posted a list a while back. You can search the WVHAMPSHIRE-L archives for this at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=WVHAMPSH All of our postings here are archived, and that's a good enough reason not to sling too much mud. Charles Morrison compiled a very good list of early South Branch Manor lot holders in his article "Early Fairfax Land Grants and Leases Along the South Branch of the Potomac" in West Virginia History, vol. XXXVIII, October 1976, No. 1. He also wrote a book along similar lines, I believe entitled "Wappacomo." My father has the book, but I don't have access to it. I can do lookups in Morrison's article, but I wouldn't care to type the whole list. Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Thanks everyone who helped to place the Lindens. I've a couple choices now. Also the descriptions (of area around where our ancestors lived) are GREAT... Shirley

Thank you Elaine. Both are reasonable possibilities. Will check in both counties. Shirley On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:01:27 -0400 Elaine D Tomkins <edtom@megsinet.net> writes: > Shirley, > > There is a Linden in both Warren and Wise Counties, Va. > > Shirley Toohey wrote: > > > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 > Tribune > > article .. under Petersburg Items. > > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister > Mrs.H.H.MC > > NEMAR. > Snip==========

Shirley, There is a Linden in both Warren and Wise Counties, Va. Shirley Toohey wrote: > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 Tribune > article .. under Petersburg Items. > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister Mrs.H.H.MC > NEMAR. > > My Steinbeck/ Clark connection is below and these 2 sisters are my > 2nd cousins twice removed. > > I've been working on the Clark Steinbeck line to find any information on > my ggg grandparents Frederick & Sarah Eckert Steinbeck. > > Their dau Elizabeth "Betsy Ann" m. Aaron Clarke in 1825 and > their son William Clarke would be the father of Mary Beatrix Clark > 1876=1945 and Frances B. Clark 1870=1954. > > Mary m. 1909 Henry Hennon McNemar > Frances m. Chas. W. Stump > > Not sure where this Lenden,VA is . > Do these names "ring bells" with anyone? I have Clarke/Steinbeck info to > share. > Shirley

James White d. 1846 (Sept. (I think) 1846. Tootsie DanlHarris wrote: > There is a graves book in the Romney library I thought was very good. Or, > you can ask someone to do a court house or library look up. > > Name? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Toots" <thelma1@ameritech.net> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:20 PM > Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > > > Dan, > > How do you find where someone was buried in say 1846 in Hampshire Co? > > Thanks > > Tootsie > > > > DanlHarris wrote: > > > > > I think Linden is in Prince William, Loudon or Faquier Co VA. Been > there > > > but cannot remember where it is. The is a STUMPs are buried in > Hampshire > > > Co. > > > > > > Evelina R. STUMP, Died in 28th year of her age; wife of JJ STUMP and > > > daughter of Conway and Mary RECTOR -- FRENCH-MURPHY Cemetary, > Springfield > > > WV. Would have been early 1800's. > > > > > > Dan Harris > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shirley Toohey" <s2ee@juno.com> > > > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 5:34 PM > > > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > > > > > > > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > > > > > > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 Tribune > > > > article .. under Petersburg Items. > > > > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister Mrs.H.H.MC > > > > NEMAR. > > > > > > > > My Steinbeck/ Clark connection is below and these 2 sisters are my > > > > 2nd cousins twice removed. > > > > > > > > I've been working on the Clark Steinbeck line to find any information > on > > > > my ggg grandparents Frederick & Sarah Eckert Steinbeck. > > > > > > > > Their dau Elizabeth "Betsy Ann" m. Aaron Clarke in 1825 and > > > > their son William Clarke would be the father of Mary Beatrix Clark > > > > 1876=1945 and Frances B. Clark 1870=1954. > > > > > > > > Mary m. 1909 Henry Hennon McNemar > > > > Frances m. Chas. W. Stump > > > > > > > > Not sure where this Lenden,VA is . > > > > Do these names "ring bells" with anyone? I have Clarke/Steinbeck info > to > > > > share. > > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Until 1995, one of the state highway historical markers stood along Route 28, 5 miles east of Romney to mark the site of one of the pioneer settlers of Hampshire, William Furman/Forman. It marked the site of Fort Furman/Foreman. The sign was either destroyed by vandals or in the flood. The State Highway Department indicates they have no funds to retore these markers. Is there someone with the Hampshire County Historical Society that could be contacted to see if this is a project they would undertake? Benjamin Furman/Forman was one of the first settlers and the fort was used by area residents as refuge from Indian attacks and William Ansel indicates Washington and militia troops may have used the fort also. Mike Foreman

CORE is one of my names. I haven't connected to Brian for a long time. The latest CORE I have been looking for is: "CORE, Moses H., Anne E. His wife. Polly CALWELL, Mary J. CORE". Indian Mound Cemetary, Romney (Hampshire) WV. Grave is located just beyond the Confederate Soldier graves. Dan Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "john kleinke" <kleinke@thesurf.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] re: South branch > Hi List, > Haven't found any of my family in the southbranch area but was looking > today for a list I had from Brian D. Core of the South Branch Manor > Rolls but couldn't find it. Maybe someone else ran a copy of the rolls > when he had them online sometime in Jan. this year. Otherwise, he was > listed as <greenhouseguy@juno.com> > Hope some of this helps. > Researching Purgetts from Purgittsville area. > Diane Kleinke nee purgett >

There is a graves book in the Romney library I thought was very good. Or, you can ask someone to do a court house or library look up. Name? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toots" <thelma1@ameritech.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > Dan, > How do you find where someone was buried in say 1846 in Hampshire Co? > Thanks > Tootsie > > DanlHarris wrote: > > > I think Linden is in Prince William, Loudon or Faquier Co VA. Been there > > but cannot remember where it is. The is a STUMPs are buried in Hampshire > > Co. > > > > Evelina R. STUMP, Died in 28th year of her age; wife of JJ STUMP and > > daughter of Conway and Mary RECTOR -- FRENCH-MURPHY Cemetary, Springfield > > WV. Would have been early 1800's. > > > > Dan Harris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shirley Toohey" <s2ee@juno.com> > > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 5:34 PM > > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > > > > > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > > > > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 Tribune > > > article .. under Petersburg Items. > > > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister Mrs.H.H.MC > > > NEMAR. > > > > > > My Steinbeck/ Clark connection is below and these 2 sisters are my > > > 2nd cousins twice removed. > > > > > > I've been working on the Clark Steinbeck line to find any information on > > > my ggg grandparents Frederick & Sarah Eckert Steinbeck. > > > > > > Their dau Elizabeth "Betsy Ann" m. Aaron Clarke in 1825 and > > > their son William Clarke would be the father of Mary Beatrix Clark > > > 1876=1945 and Frances B. Clark 1870=1954. > > > > > > Mary m. 1909 Henry Hennon McNemar > > > Frances m. Chas. W. Stump > > > > > > Not sure where this Lenden,VA is . > > > Do these names "ring bells" with anyone? I have Clarke/Steinbeck info to > > > share. > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Fort? More info??? I suspect the indian village to be on the last knoll right where the South Branch runs into the Potomac. Dan H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Elliott" <rolandelliott@thegrid.net> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: South Branch and FRENCH's Station (McDonald-French-Guthrie-Shannon-Taylor-Kuykendall-Parker-Blue and others) > Should be a fort foundation some where close by? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "macbd1" <macbd1@arthur.k12.il.us> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 9 47 AM > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: South Branch and FRENCH's Station > (McDonald-French-Guthrie-Shannon-Taylor-Kuykendall-Parker-Blue and others) > > > 'Pixi' and her husband visited the present area of South Branch-French's > Station a few days ago. Following is her description of the area, with her > approval for me to post it, for those who may be interested. She will be > providing the cemetery names, that will be posted, but these are for more > recent times -- opposed to the early-mid 1700's when South Branch was > apparently first used as a trading post or gathering place for boating > mercantile items downstream (Potomac River) to eastern VA-MD river ports, > and returning with goods that were needed but unavailable in the South > Branch area. Remains of the building she describes *may* be the French's > Station building of the 1750's; however, the 'double-frame' structure of the > walls indicates later construction -- or is this possibly a reconstruction > of the original FRENCH 'station' or 'store' building? Here is her very > descriptive story: > > Just north of Levels one practically runs out of road. The paved road > turns into a dirt road that is so narrow that if you meet a car you > would have to back up to find a place to move over. And it goes up, up, > up until, on the left or west side, one looks down, down, down a very > steep slope at the river valley below. Beautiful!!! > > >From the heights the road gradually heads down and you pass an old > family cemetery (I copied the headstones if you are interested) and > eventually arrive at the bottom into what is still called South Branch. > > All that is left is an ancient building that was apparently a store. It > is built into the side of the slope. It has piles of stone as a > foundation. The stones are stacked one on top another and are of > various sizes. And these are field stones stacked with no mortar or > means of holding them together other than the weight of the building. > Large logs stretch about 30 feet to hold up the place. The walls are > frame and double with about a foot between the walls. In one area where > the wall had been breached soil spilled out on the floor and was > apparently used as insulation. > > The floor of the building, such as it was, was partly the ground and > partly wood on the area that stretched out from the slope. It looked > absolutely unsafe so we didn't go in. The roof seemed to be intact and > there was evidence that it had been wired for electricity at some point. > > There appeared to be an old grass covered road climbing up the > mountain. We couldn't tell if we saw logs up there or not so we climbed > up a hundred feet or so but it was only several fallen trees that > somehow had fallen atop each other. > > The area was covered with vinca (myrtle) and English Ivy so there had > been a yard there once. > > There is a large viaduct where the railroad crosses over the dirt road > and concrete steps going from the level of the road up to the railroad > bed which is possibly 20 feet higher than the road. The steps haven't > been used for years. > > We looked for foundations of buildings but found nothing. > > There were two different dirt roads heading off to the west that we > thought were driveways. My husband walked along one a way and said > there was nothing there. We didn't check the other one. > > We left, very disappointed, and started back up the mountain. Just > before we got to Levels we met a woman with several very small children > taking her evening constitutional and asked her about the area. She > told us that although we had been in South Branch we had gone too far > to see the several old buildings. > > So we turned back and took the road she told us to take but it was > certainly not the village of South Branch. It was down along the South > Branch River and has been subdivided and full of streets with cutesy > names. There are all sorts of summer homes and trailers scattered about > and it is plastered with no trespassing signs and threats to prosecute > trespassers. We trespassed anyway, but nothing of interest. > > I have an atlas that allegedly gives every little road in the state of > WV but it goofed. Those roads we thought were driveways aren't on it > nor is another alleged road going east along the river. > > I have DeLorme Topo maps and it shows that what we thought were > driveways are county roads and also shows a road going east. However, > there was no visible road going east out of South Branch that we saw. > > The woman had told us about an old railroad station made into a > residence but we saw no such place. The old store was obviously in the > center of town and there were no other buildings in sight. I am going > to try to find out more about the place. The place she had directed us > to was several miles south of the village of South Branch/French's > Station and we saw no cemetery although there must be one somewhere. > > End of quote. Can anyone who lives in Hampshire County provide further > input about South Branch or French's Station? Dan Harris? > > I'm also wondering whether an early census of Hampshire County lists > inhabitants of the area or community called South Branch, simply to identify > its approximate population. > > Thanks very much, pixi, and to all who have contributed to the South > Branch-French's Station discussion. > Neil McDonald > > >

Called the RUSSELL Cemetary. Right on RUGGLE's Rd. The walls are filled with saw dust. Saw dust used to be used as insulation. Floor was wood covered with dirt and rotting saw dust. Also, old fashioned lilac. The B&O photos show the dirt road crossing the railroad, so the viaduct must have been a recent item. Right there at the viaduct is FRENCH's Station. The station stood on the river side of the railroad and 30-40' upstream (left). The sub-divided area is FRENCH's Neck East. One of those cutsey, cottage names was mine. Dan H ----- Original Message ----- From: "macbd1" <macbd1@arthur.k12.il.us> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 12:47 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: South Branch and FRENCH's Station (McDonald-French-Guthrie-Shannon-Taylor-Kuykendall-Parker-Blue and others) > 'Pixi' and her husband visited the present area of South Branch-French's > Station a few days ago. Following is her description of the area, with her > approval for me to post it, for those who may be interested. She will be > providing the cemetery names, that will be posted, but these are for more > recent times -- opposed to the early-mid 1700's when South Branch was > apparently first used as a trading post or gathering place for boating > mercantile items downstream (Potomac River) to eastern VA-MD river ports, > and returning with goods that were needed but unavailable in the South > Branch area. Remains of the building she describes *may* be the French's > Station building of the 1750's; however, the 'double-frame' structure of the > walls indicates later construction -- or is this possibly a reconstruction > of the original FRENCH 'station' or 'store' building? Here is her very > descriptive story: > > Just north of Levels one practically runs out of road. The paved road > turns into a dirt road that is so narrow that if you meet a car you > would have to back up to find a place to move over. And it goes up, up, > up until, on the left or west side, one looks down, down, down a very > steep slope at the river valley below. Beautiful!!! > > >From the heights the road gradually heads down and you pass an old > family cemetery (I copied the headstones if you are interested) and > eventually arrive at the bottom into what is still called South Branch. > > All that is left is an ancient building that was apparently a store. It > is built into the side of the slope. It has piles of stone as a > foundation. The stones are stacked one on top another and are of > various sizes. And these are field stones stacked with no mortar or > means of holding them together other than the weight of the building. > Large logs stretch about 30 feet to hold up the place. The walls are > frame and double with about a foot between the walls. In one area where > the wall had been breached soil spilled out on the floor and was > apparently used as insulation. > > The floor of the building, such as it was, was partly the ground and > partly wood on the area that stretched out from the slope. It looked > absolutely unsafe so we didn't go in. The roof seemed to be intact and > there was evidence that it had been wired for electricity at some point. > > There appeared to be an old grass covered road climbing up the > mountain. We couldn't tell if we saw logs up there or not so we climbed > up a hundred feet or so but it was only several fallen trees that > somehow had fallen atop each other. > > The area was covered with vinca (myrtle) and English Ivy so there had > been a yard there once. > > There is a large viaduct where the railroad crosses over the dirt road > and concrete steps going from the level of the road up to the railroad > bed which is possibly 20 feet higher than the road. The steps haven't > been used for years. > > We looked for foundations of buildings but found nothing. > > There were two different dirt roads heading off to the west that we > thought were driveways. My husband walked along one a way and said > there was nothing there. We didn't check the other one. > > We left, very disappointed, and started back up the mountain. Just > before we got to Levels we met a woman with several very small children > taking her evening constitutional and asked her about the area. She > told us that although we had been in South Branch we had gone too far > to see the several old buildings. > > So we turned back and took the road she told us to take but it was > certainly not the village of South Branch. It was down along the South > Branch River and has been subdivided and full of streets with cutesy > names. There are all sorts of summer homes and trailers scattered about > and it is plastered with no trespassing signs and threats to prosecute > trespassers. We trespassed anyway, but nothing of interest. > > I have an atlas that allegedly gives every little road in the state of > WV but it goofed. Those roads we thought were driveways aren't on it > nor is another alleged road going east along the river. > > I have DeLorme Topo maps and it shows that what we thought were > driveways are county roads and also shows a road going east. However, > there was no visible road going east out of South Branch that we saw. > > The woman had told us about an old railroad station made into a > residence but we saw no such place. The old store was obviously in the > center of town and there were no other buildings in sight. I am going > to try to find out more about the place. The place she had directed us > to was several miles south of the village of South Branch/French's > Station and we saw no cemetery although there must be one somewhere. > > End of quote. Can anyone who lives in Hampshire County provide further > input about South Branch or French's Station? Dan Harris? > > I'm also wondering whether an early census of Hampshire County lists > inhabitants of the area or community called South Branch, simply to identify > its approximate population. > > Thanks very much, pixi, and to all who have contributed to the South > Branch-French's Station discussion. > Neil McDonald >

Dan, How do you find where someone was buried in say 1846 in Hampshire Co? Thanks Tootsie DanlHarris wrote: > I think Linden is in Prince William, Loudon or Faquier Co VA. Been there > but cannot remember where it is. The is a STUMPs are buried in Hampshire > Co. > > Evelina R. STUMP, Died in 28th year of her age; wife of JJ STUMP and > daughter of Conway and Mary RECTOR -- FRENCH-MURPHY Cemetary, Springfield > WV. Would have been early 1800's. > > Dan Harris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Toohey" <s2ee@juno.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 5:34 PM > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > > > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 Tribune > > article .. under Petersburg Items. > > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister Mrs.H.H.MC > > NEMAR. > > > > My Steinbeck/ Clark connection is below and these 2 sisters are my > > 2nd cousins twice removed. > > > > I've been working on the Clark Steinbeck line to find any information on > > my ggg grandparents Frederick & Sarah Eckert Steinbeck. > > > > Their dau Elizabeth "Betsy Ann" m. Aaron Clarke in 1825 and > > their son William Clarke would be the father of Mary Beatrix Clark > > 1876=1945 and Frances B. Clark 1870=1954. > > > > Mary m. 1909 Henry Hennon McNemar > > Frances m. Chas. W. Stump > > > > Not sure where this Lenden,VA is . > > Do these names "ring bells" with anyone? I have Clarke/Steinbeck info to > > share. > > Shirley > > > > > > > >

Linden, Virginia is in Warren County, Virginia, a few miles east of Front Royal. Mike DanlHarris wrote: > I think Linden is in Prince William, Loudon or Faquier Co VA. Been there > but cannot remember where it is. The is a STUMPs are buried in Hampshire > Co. > > Evelina R. STUMP, Died in 28th year of her age; wife of JJ STUMP and > daughter of Conway and Mary RECTOR -- FRENCH-MURPHY Cemetary, Springfield > WV. Would have been early 1800's. > > Dan Harris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Toohey" <s2ee@juno.com> > To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 5:34 PM > Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > > > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 Tribune > > article .. under Petersburg Items. > > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister Mrs.H.H.MC > > NEMAR. > > > > My Steinbeck/ Clark connection is below and these 2 sisters are my > > 2nd cousins twice removed. > > > > I've been working on the Clark Steinbeck line to find any information on > > my ggg grandparents Frederick & Sarah Eckert Steinbeck. > > > > Their dau Elizabeth "Betsy Ann" m. Aaron Clarke in 1825 and > > their son William Clarke would be the father of Mary Beatrix Clark > > 1876=1945 and Frances B. Clark 1870=1954. > > > > Mary m. 1909 Henry Hennon McNemar > > Frances m. Chas. W. Stump > > > > Not sure where this Lenden,VA is . > > Do these names "ring bells" with anyone? I have Clarke/Steinbeck info to > > share. > > Shirley > > > > > > > >

I think Linden is in Prince William, Loudon or Faquier Co VA. Been there but cannot remember where it is. The is a STUMPs are buried in Hampshire Co. Evelina R. STUMP, Died in 28th year of her age; wife of JJ STUMP and daughter of Conway and Mary RECTOR -- FRENCH-MURPHY Cemetary, Springfield WV. Would have been early 1800's. Dan Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Toohey" <s2ee@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 5:34 PM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Tribune Article, Mineral co, WV-- STUMP/MC NEMAR > Is there anyone researching Stump or McNemar? > > Found what I believe to be distant cousins in a 15 Sept. 1911 Tribune > article .. under Petersburg Items. > Mrs. C.W.STUMP of Linden or Lenden, VA visited her sister Mrs.H.H.MC > NEMAR. > > My Steinbeck/ Clark connection is below and these 2 sisters are my > 2nd cousins twice removed. > > I've been working on the Clark Steinbeck line to find any information on > my ggg grandparents Frederick & Sarah Eckert Steinbeck. > > Their dau Elizabeth "Betsy Ann" m. Aaron Clarke in 1825 and > their son William Clarke would be the father of Mary Beatrix Clark > 1876=1945 and Frances B. Clark 1870=1954. > > Mary m. 1909 Henry Hennon McNemar > Frances m. Chas. W. Stump > > Not sure where this Lenden,VA is . > Do these names "ring bells" with anyone? I have Clarke/Steinbeck info to > share. > Shirley > > > >

Love the terraserver. You can see my cottage in FRENCH's Neck on it. Was up there this weekend. I didn't take a camera. I went down to FRENCH. There are remains of 4 buildings down there. I understand the farm I described earlier, is called the LONG Farm. .... Auction, 16 Oct 1907, concerning the sale of Mrs Florence M. FRENCH properties, "What is known as the 'Point Place', was offered first by Auctioneer J.W. POLING, and was knocked down to Wm. LONG for $7000. The Beaver Bottom Farm brought $8,550, as was purchased by Oliver MESSICK of this community. The home place was bought by R.M. WASHINGTON for $4510. He also purchased the other two tracts, one for $450 and the other for $290, the total land sale in this county aggregating $20900......her estate will probably aggregate at least $75,000." I believe FRENCH's Neck went to Jame MURPHY (Wm FRENCH's widow Mary who married JM), ARNOLD and later was deeded/granted to WV University for research and was never to be sold, .... but was sold by the WVU circa 1970-80. I haven't looked these land records up to prove this. The LONG Farm house is about 200 yards further down the Potomac and within the flood plane. The widest part of the fields is about 100' (railroad to river). Most of the fields are 30-60' wide and run from the house to the rail road trestle. Anway, back to my visit. Directly up the hill (50-75') from what I believe to be the FRENCH Store/Post Office are 2 buildings. One is an old barn, that looks like was converted to a dairy barn. Another 20-30' up the hill is a small house, about 20x20. To the W side of the road and going S, there is a very small wet ditch and below the 'dairy' barn there is a small pond. Yet further up the ridge is the remains of another building. I believe it collapsed about 1993. I looked on the N side of the railroad for the FRENCH's Station rail station, but could not find stone posts, stone walls or any sign of foundation. The B&O photo I saw, showed the dirt road crossing on the E side of the train station, about 20-30' away. Anyway there were at least 5 buildings there and believe there may have been more on the knolls heading W. Up the Potomac about a 1/4 mile is the CSX trestle. There is the current CSX (B&O) trestle and remnants of 3 others. Not to be mistaken as three other peers, but three additional, different crossings. Each trestle looks progressively higher (above the water level) than the next, going down stream. About half way between the South Branch River and FRENCH there are concrete footers on either side of the railroad as if there was an overhead tower or signal. The lower side of the railroad bed is covered with bug dust (coal ash/waste). There are about 4 knolls on the south side of the railroad (railroad is against the 30-40' cliff on the S side and fields on the other side) between FRENCH and the South Branch trestle. On top of these knolls are fields. I did not go through the fields, they were posted. I could not see the C&O canal across the Potomac, but understand there was a lock directly across from FRENCH. Dan Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "macbd1" <macbd1@arthur.k12.il.us> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: South Branch and FRENCH's Station (McDonald-French-Guthrie-Shannon-Taylor-Kuykendall-Parker-Blue and others) > Dan, thanks so much for your detailed descriptions of the area around South > Branch-French's Station and the French Neck areas of Hamshire County. With > your descriptions, along with the map and aerial photo of the area that I > originally posted, I can much better picture the area. My thanks even more, > if that is possible, to Dorothy Davis Webb whose posting about the John > FRENCH family history seems to confirm that the settlement area of South > Branch-French's Station indeed existed in the 1750's. Thanks to all others > as well for your contributions to this discussion -- and especially to > 'Toots' who initiated the current discussion. I had posted queries about a > South Branch settlement several times previously, with no responses. I now > know where my ancestor was born when he said in his Rev War pension papers: > 'at South Branch, of the Potomac River, on 11 Jan 1760, as told to me by my > parents.' > > Dorothy asked where French Neck is/was located, which Dan described in his > posting. Dorothy, you may have seen Dan's posting after posting yours. But > just in case, the following link to a topographical map clearly shows > French's Neck: > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.5133&lon=-78.5888&size=s&s=25 > It is the long bend or horseshoe of the South Branch River, just south of > the French's Station settlement (north is most always toward the top of a > map.) I don't know whether the land initially settled by John FRENCH, and > his sons Matthew, James and William, was within (inside) this river loop or > whether French Neck was named for them since this river 'neck' was > immediately south of their land -- or maybe they had land in both locations. > > Dan, here is another link to an aerial photo of the South Branch-French's > Station area. This photo is 'zoomed' to its greatest extent: > http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=10&T=1&X=3542&Y=21887&Z=17&W=0 > It appears to me that the road heading northward, toward the Potomac River > bank, from what was originally French's Station presently goes through a > tunnel under the old B&O Railroad tracks for people to gain access to the > area north of the RR tracks. This RR track is apparently built very high > for protection from flooding. I'm wondering whether construction of this > railroad in the 1800's may have resulted in fill-dirt, rock, gravel and RR > tracks now covering part or all of the 'business area' that once was > French's Station-South Branch -- and that a new depot building was likely > constructed nearby? What do you think from your observations? Can you > describe where this building is located, or see a black shadow of it in the > aerial photo? Or further describe any other particulars of the area? > > Now, as to the two names associated with this area, South Branch and > French's Station: I'm wondering whether 'South Branch' was possibly used > originally to name the Potomac River bank area where there were likely > several spots where frontiersmen or families loaded/unloaded their various > kinds of 'boats?' Or, possibly 'South Branch' was used to name the general > area at the northern tip of the land ridge, while 'French's Station' was > used to name the specific business structures and cabins that formed a > settlement or community? At any rate, the two names must have been > intertwined at an early date, that continued throughout the many years since > 1750, or so. > > Dorothy, you asked about your ancestral connections to the Thomas Cresap > family. Following are the two best on-line sources of Cresap info that I > know about: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/index.htm > http://ezines.firelands.net/MuzzleBlastsOnline/Vol1No3/Articles/Cresap.htm > > With regard to the on-line topo maps and aerial maps, viewers should allow > time for these to load, it will not be immediate and may take 10-60 seconds > depending on the speed of your computer and connection. How busy the > Internet is can also make a difference in speed, it's always busier in the > evening. Taking time to use these maps (for anywhere in the country), along > with the aerial photo web site can help a person answer a "Where is..." > question, by using the 'Search' tool. I also enjoy these to simply get a > better feel for an area, and to find old rural cemeteries, abandoned roads, > location and names of ridges, mountains, streams, old towns and settlements, > etc. -- some of these names relate to the earliest names of settlers. Who > would have thought that South Branch and French's Station are still > identified on present day maps? These images can be viewed as large areas > to locate a point of interest, then you may 'zoom-in' to find details and > names. I know that many of you are probably using these map-aerial photo > images, I'm just trying to help those who may not have tried them yet. > > Thanks again to all, > Neil McDonald > >

Hi List, Haven't found any of my family in the southbranch area but was looking today for a list I had from Brian D. Core of the South Branch Manor Rolls but couldn't find it. Maybe someone else ran a copy of the rolls when he had them online sometime in Jan. this year. Otherwise, he was listed as <greenhouseguy@juno.com> Hope some of this helps. Researching Purgetts from Purgittsville area. Diane Kleinke nee purgett

Looking for Walkers who left Hampshire county in 1802-1803. They owned a mill near Green Springs. Any clues. Thank You Robin

Not that I know of. There were CREASYs in Allegany Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUJANSMITH@aol.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re: South Branch and FRENCH's Station (McDonald-French-Guthr... > Dan, > I noticed the name Kuykendall. Do you have any Creasman's in your line. We > are from the same area and for some reason this surname rings a bell with me. > > Thanks, > Susan >

Absolutely. I have a cottage in FRENCH's Neck. I have a 400 year old oak, that sadly is near the end. I am sure the old oak was touch by a FRENCH, MURPHY, CRAPPER or CRESAP when it was a much younger... 100 or 200 years old. I am very interested in sharing information about the FRENCH-MURPHY connection. I have a quest this winter to find the FRENCH-MURPHY Cemetary on the MESSICK Farm -- next loop on the river above FRENCH's Neck. Dan Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: <TNGEN@aol.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 3:33 AM Subject: [WVHAMPSH-L] Hampshire Co. French's > I descend from John and Matthew French, early settlers in Hampshire County. > Their move from Westmoreland Co. to Hampshire County is recorded in David E. > Johnston's book, "The History of the Middle New River Settlements and > Contiguous Territory" published in 1906. > > "The Frenches. The ancestors of this family lived in Scotland, thence > removed to Wales, and from thence, long prior to the American Revolution, > came across the Atlantic and settled in the Northern Neck of > Virginia--Westmoreland County, within the grant to Lord Fairfax. It was in > Westmoreland, about 1735, that John French married a lady of Welsh > extraction. Among the children born to them was a son, Matthew, in 1737. > Settlers were pressing across the Blue Ridge and on to the South branch of > the Potomac, and on and along the Big and Little Cacapon. As information > came back from these people of the wonderland they had found, others became > interested and made up their minds to go; among them John French and his > family in about 1750, made their way up the Rappahannock and over to the > South branch of the Potomac; locating at a place since well known as French's > Neck, a beautiful and valuable body of land on the South branch of the river > mentioned. John lived but a short while after reaching his new home, and his > widow shortly after his death married Captain Cresap. The district in which > John French settled soon became the County of Hampshire. There were several > sons in the family other than Matthew among them William and James and a > daughter Esther, who married John Locke." > > The author then goes on to follow the descendants of John and Matthew as they > settled on the New River in Giles County. The book documents early French > family settlers in the area being discussed as South Branch and French's > Station. Does anyone know where French's Neck is located? I would also like > any information about John's wife Martha French who married into the well > known Cresap family from Maryland. I have seen her maiden name listed as > Upshur and Flint. As far as I know, she remained in Hampshire County after > her son, Matthew, migrated to the New River area. > > Dorothy Davis Webb TNGEN@aol.com > Kapolei, Hawaii > > Researching: DAVIS, HALE, FRENCH, CLAY, PAYNE, TRAVIS, BUTTRAM and others in > VA, WVA, TN >

Hi, Are you by chance living in Muskogee, Ok. I live there also, at 318 North 'G' Street Phone 918-687-7299 I am also searching in Hampshire County, WV. My ggggrandpa George Mayberry built the Columbia Furnace at Woodstock, Shenandoah Co., Virginia in 1803. He was married to Rebecca Pennybacker Mayberry and lived out their life in Belleville, Wood County, Va. They are buried in the Riverview Cemetery nearby Parkersburg, Wood Co., WV. They and their son John P. Mayberry owned plantations in that area, John P. Mayberry was a Judge and was elected three consecutive terms to the Virginia Legislature. He retired and raised race horses on his plantation. I just ran onto a name John P. Mayberry who was connected to the Kentucky Derby race of 1903. I am currently working on finding out if he is a descendant, which sounds very likely. I haven't recieved a reply to my email query. I am also connected to the Haynes. My mother was Ethel Ella Haynes of Tuskahoma, Pushmataha County, Oklahoma born there in March 28, 1898. Her parents were from Georgia. I haven't worked on that line in quite awhile. Give me a yell. Bye, Frank R. Mayberry "G. Smith" wrote: > Posted on: Hampshire County, WV Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/WV/Hampshire/1444 > > Surname: HAINES > ------------------------- > > I would like to exchange documented information with others on the various > HAINES families that appear in Hampshire County 1860 and in earlier records. > At this time I am researching Samuel Haines, born about 1805, died about > 1869. He married Sarah Carlyle ca 1830, and they had about 10 children. > I am also researching Henry Haines who died in Hampshire County in 1839. > Is anyone else researching any of the early Haines families of Hampshire > County? If so, I would like to compare records with you.