Ok, Melinda, I think I have settled some of the confusions. I have rechecked the information you sent today, against some you sent me, in Oct. 98. This should be some proof that I eventually get back to some of the names which I do not finish researching. :-) I have also used some information from John D. Hoff III sent to me, in Nov. 97, and also the Ancestry vol 5 of KVGS, plus some other info that I have gotten from various places. I will agree with the birth date of 1782, based upon Baptism records for the Emanuel Lutheran Church in Pottstown, though I found a date of 1784 in the KVGS book. I notice that in your information you indicate that Mary Vance married [1] Conrad Cart. Do you know who else she married, if she married more than once? I rechecked my program and discovered that I had listed Richard David Carte with the wrong parents. So, I was able to do the tricks and get it in the right place and merged as child of Conrad and Mary Cart. Apparently he married both Mahala Osborne and also Sybil Scott, based upon the information that I have now. Can you help me out with the marriage of Mary E. Cart and Robert Vance? How does he relate to Mary Vance who married Conrad Cart? I see all sorts of documentation that Catherine Heppenheimer was a sponser for some of the Cart baptisms. Now, how does Willhelm Cart, her father relate to Conrad Cart/ or Johann Cart? I can not seem to place either Mary Cart or Willhelm Cart with all the many Carts in my program....parents please or dates? John Huff is in the line of Conrad's dau. Catharina Cart. Now, Joyce in Ca. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3231 http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/r/m/Joyce-C-Armstrongcooper/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~carvgs/rgs.htm Main names I am researching, VINCENT, TAYLOR, BRUNS,LIVESAY,ELLIS,MCCLUNG,JOPLING, COOPER, and many more, too numerous to post....