According to the book I emailed you about earlier, the Ingles/Draper massacre was Sunday, July 8, 1755. the Shawnees came to the Drapers Meadows Settlement and killed Colonel James Patton, Mrs. George Draper, Casper Barrier, and a child of John Draper. Mrs John Draper, Henry Lenard, and Mrs. William Ingles were taken prisoner. Mrs. John Draper and James Cull were wounded. Mrs John Draper was away from the house during the attack and grabbed her infant and ran, and was shot in the elbow and her arm broken. She was caught and the infant "brained" on the corner of a log house. After gathering prisoners, guns, and household goods, they burned the homes. they next stopped at the home of Mr. Philip Barger described as a "white haired old man". They cut his head off and took it to the house of his friend, Philip Lybrook, and left it, telling the wife she would find an acquaintance in the bag. In 1774 the family of John Lybrook, son of Phillip, were attacked and five children killed. The author states Mrs. Ingalls delighted in telling of her adventures and a lot of family members had recorded the events she told and collectively had the same dates, etc. In the past couple of days on the Augusta Co., VA mail list there was a question that evolved from why an Augusta Militia was formed to dates for theEngles/Draper massacres...I started looking at my various books to see if I could answer the question...but others beat me to the answer...but I found something that sorta made me pause in my tracks.. "Trans Allegheny Pioneers" by John P. Hale, published 1886, Chapter 36. The purpose of this chapter was to make a chronological record of important events along the western border of Virginia. He stated that a lot of what he wrote came from those who had experienced it, or had heard a parent or grandparent relate the event. The following is two paragraphs before he beganthe chronological events...which begin in 1654 and end in 1886. QUOTED from book: Their {the pioneers} goings and comings and their doings were not guided by fixed rules nor programmes, nor cramped and fettered by cold records. They had a contempt for calendars and a negligent disregard of dates. Facts they remembered, and could relate with minutest detail; but they neither knew nor cared whether the events related occurred five, or ten, or twenty years earlier or later; all that they knew or cared to remember was, that they occurred, "in an early day" - in the dim, indefinite and distance-enchanted past. THEN he wrote the following: "To get early historical dates with accuracy is no easy task, as those who have tried it know." Now this poor gentleman was having problems in 1886 getting reliable data....and it is 116 years later and look at us.....who says history doesn't repeat itself???? LOL Peace, Vivian