I have this John Shumate if you write to me at aol Sandy in Florida :-) REPLY TO SandraG627@aol.com On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 VivHy@aol.com wrote: > Where do I start..? How about...Greenbrier County, 18-Dec-1840. On that day > Henry Hoover, Cain Hoover (Henry and Cain are father and son), John Shumate, > and George P. Hoover (no documentation linking Henry and Cain to George P.) > entered into an agreement to pay James O. Hobbs, guardian of the infant > children of Andrew M. Scott, dec'd. one hundred dollars for value rec'd of > him. I interpret this as meaning they are paying James to care for these > children. Would someone pay someone else to care for kids that they had no > connection to?? > > The Hoover-Shumate-Scott-Hobbs rectangle kept the courts busy from 1840-1860. > They took turns suing one another for anything or something...and after Henry > died....Cain came back to Greenbrier County and took all of them to court > plus his nephew Henry H. Whitman LOL > > Does anyone know of a "connection" between any of these men with the infant > children of Andrew M. Scott deceased? I found a marriage record for Dr. > Andrew M. Scott and Rachel C. Hamilton in Bath County 21-Feb-1826. Bond says > that Dr. Andrew Scott was from Rockbridge County. John Shumate married Rachel > Gibson in Greenbrier County 12-Sep-1814. Now 16-May-1842 a William Scott and > James O. Hobbs, merchants and partners, in Greenbrier County sued Henry > Hoover for monies he owed them. Do not know the name of Henry's first wife > (mother of Cain). He married Barbara McCallister, a widow from Alleghany > County in 1840. Henry's daughter by first wife was Isabella and she married > William Whitman. They had one son, Henry H. > > I am hoping some of this may help me find out who Henry's first wife and > Cain's mother was. Some records have her as being Elizabeth Hevener, daughter > of Nicholas Hevener...but no documentation to prove it and that Elizabeth as > been proven to be married to a Swadley. > > If no one has THE answer...got any suggestions on where else I could look? > > Thanks, > Vivian > >

Wondering if permission to do things required court approval. 40-50 years ago I worked for the commissioner of accounts verifying books of guardians financial accounts (that the monies were spent only on what was specified in an agreement written a year or more before). If they needed money for other things, they had to get commissioners approval and some items they had to sue the guardian so he got court permission to spend the money because the commissioner did not have authority to grant it. These could range from purchasing a band instrument so the kid could play in the band to taking a school trip or more money for clothes, etc. What might have been in the 1800s? I bet they sued in court so much that was why commissioner of accounts were used. Now they have even replaced the commissioner of accounts with another legal entity. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Griffith [mailto:griffith@freenet.tlh.fl.us] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:53 AM To: WVGREENB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: shumate was Re: [WVGREENB] Help...my Brick Wall is leaning on me.. I have this John Shumate if you write to me at aol Sandy in Florida :-) REPLY TO SandraG627@aol.com On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 VivHy@aol.com wrote: > Where do I start..? How about...Greenbrier County, 18-Dec-1840. On that day > Henry Hoover, Cain Hoover (Henry and Cain are father and son), John Shumate, > and George P. Hoover (no documentation linking Henry and Cain to George P.) > entered into an agreement to pay James O. Hobbs, guardian of the infant > children of Andrew M. Scott, dec'd. one hundred dollars for value rec'd of > him. I interpret this as meaning they are paying James to care for these > children. Would someone pay someone else to care for kids that they had no > connection to?? > > The Hoover-Shumate-Scott-Hobbs rectangle kept the courts busy from 1840-1860. > They took turns suing one another for anything or something...and after Henry > died....Cain came back to Greenbrier County and took all of them to court > plus his nephew Henry H. Whitman LOL > > Does anyone know of a "connection" between any of these men with the infant > children of Andrew M. Scott deceased? I found a marriage record for Dr. > Andrew M. Scott and Rachel C. Hamilton in Bath County 21-Feb-1826. Bond says > that Dr. Andrew Scott was from Rockbridge County. John Shumate married Rachel > Gibson in Greenbrier County 12-Sep-1814. Now 16-May-1842 a William Scott and > James O. Hobbs, merchants and partners, in Greenbrier County sued Henry > Hoover for monies he owed them. Do not know the name of Henry's first wife > (mother of Cain). He married Barbara McCallister, a widow from Alleghany > County in 1840. Henry's daughter by first wife was Isabella and she married > William Whitman. They had one son, Henry H. > > I am hoping some of this may help me find out who Henry's first wife and > Cain's mother was. Some records have her as being Elizabeth Hevener, daughter > of Nicholas Hevener...but no documentation to prove it and that Elizabeth as > been proven to be married to a Swadley. > > If no one has THE answer...got any suggestions on where else I could look? > > Thanks, > Vivian > >