I only see the names of 46 counties, not 55. Les At 02:38 PM 9/18/2007, you wrote: >I noticed something odd -- anyone else catch it? (g)

Yes, it missed 7 counties. Bill singhals wrote: > singhals wrote: > > >> I was asked today if I knew the words to the State History >> song that names the counties; it used to be taught in state >> history classes. >> >> I'll be blowed if it was taught in MY state history classes. >> We'll ignore the question of whether that makes it older >> or younger than dirt, please. >> >> Thing is, any of you know this song? The person who asked >> me heard it only once and can't remember another thing about >> it except it contains the name of all 55 counties. [There >> are still only 55, right?] >> >> Cheryl >> WVHampsh >> >> > > At the bottom of this is the words to the song/poem I was > looking for. > > www.redorbit.com/news/science/793879/untied_shoelaces_cause_an_unusual_accident/index.html > > > I noticed something odd -- anyone else catch it? (g) > > Cheryl > > >

singhals wrote: > I was asked today if I knew the words to the State History > song that names the counties; it used to be taught in state > history classes. > > I'll be blowed if it was taught in MY state history classes. > We'll ignore the question of whether that makes it older > or younger than dirt, please. > > Thing is, any of you know this song? The person who asked > me heard it only once and can't remember another thing about > it except it contains the name of all 55 counties. [There > are still only 55, right?] > > Cheryl > WVHampsh > At the bottom of this is the words to the song/poem I was looking for. www.redorbit.com/news/science/793879/untied_shoelaces_cause_an_unusual_accident/index.html I noticed something odd -- anyone else catch it? (g) Cheryl -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

Cheryl, There were only 47 listed?? But don't ask me which ones were missing - the ones I take care of were all there :-) Marilyn G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> To: <wvgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [WVGEN] Slightly OT: WVa history song? > singhals wrote: > >> I was asked today if I knew the words to the State History >> song that names the counties; it used to be taught in state >> history classes. >> >> I'll be blowed if it was taught in MY state history classes. >> We'll ignore the question of whether that makes it older >> or younger than dirt, please. >> >> Thing is, any of you know this song? The person who asked >> me heard it only once and can't remember another thing about >> it except it contains the name of all 55 counties. [There >> are still only 55, right?] >> >> Cheryl >> WVHampsh >> > > At the bottom of this is the words to the song/poem I was > looking for. > > www.redorbit.com/news/science/793879/untied_shoelaces_cause_an_unusual_accident/index.html > > > I noticed something odd -- anyone else catch it? (g) > > Cheryl > > > -- > There should be no attachments on this message, unless I > specifically mentioned them above. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: > 9/18/2007 11:53 AM > >

WV / 1850-Mortality "Complete" 6 counties Dist/Twp/City Braxton, Doddridge, Harrison, Pendleton, Raleigh, Wyoming Transcribed by Connie Burkett Proofread by B. Burkett http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/wv/braxton/1850/ http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/wv/doddridge/1850/ http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/wv/harrison/1850/ http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/wv/pendleton/1850/ http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/wv/raleigh/1850/ http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/wv/wyoming/1850/

Yes there is still only 55 counties. There was never any such song taught in history class or any other class when I attended school either. In West Virginia History we were required to learn the names of all 55 counties and seem like the names of all the county seats also. It has been way too long since I was in school also. I checked with my step-daughter and her daughter. Neither of them ever heard such a song in their WV History classes either. Les At 02:47 PM 9/13/2007, you wrote: >I was asked today if I knew the words to the State History >song that names the counties; it used to be taught in state >history classes. > >I'll be blowed if it was taught in MY state history classes. > We'll ignore the question of whether that makes it older >or younger than dirt, please. > >Thing is, any of you know this song? The person who asked >me heard it only once and can't remember another thing about >it except it contains the name of all 55 counties. [There >are still only 55, right?]

*****Please forward to USGenWeb Project lists***** The USGenWeb Project is recruiting a web master to maintain its USGenWeb Project National pages. Volunteers should have these qualifications: 1. Strong demonstrated knowledge and understanding of HTML and CSS [Cascading Style Sheets]; 2, Knowledge of FTP software; 3. Understanding of the USGenWeb mission and goals; 4, Member of the USGenWeb Project with a minimum of six months as a member in good standing; 5. Ability to spend at least one day a month on site maintenance and upkeep. This time will be spread over the course of a month to assure that updates are completed in a timely fashion; 6. Ability to respond in a timely manner to requests for updates as needed. If you are interested, please send a short statement of your qualifications and a minimum of three reference urls for the Advisory Board to consider. Please send your qualifications to Tina Vickery tsvickery@gmail.com Your statement will be shared with Advisory Board members. Applications will remain open through Wednesday, September 19, 2007. Tina Vickery National Coordinator USGenWeb Project -------------------------------

I was asked today if I knew the words to the State History song that names the counties; it used to be taught in state history classes. I'll be blowed if it was taught in MY state history classes. We'll ignore the question of whether that makes it older or younger than dirt, please. Thing is, any of you know this song? The person who asked me heard it only once and can't remember another thing about it except it contains the name of all 55 counties. [There are still only 55, right?] Cheryl WVHampsh -- There should be no attachments on this message, unless I specifically mentioned them above.

In conjunction with the masthead negotiations/discussions, the Board and I feel that a contingency discussion is also prudent to have. I offer the below as discussion points only. We welcome all Project members to express their concerns, opinions and to ask questions. Please forward to XXGenWeb Project lists. Again, below is intended as discussion points *only*. Main discussion will take place on the -Discuss list. Subscription information is available at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/USGENWEB-DISCUSS.html Please have courtesy and respect for your peers and the hosts of our mailing lists as we have this discussion. If you wish to contact Advisory Board members privately their names and email addresses are available at: http://www.usgenweb.com/about/advisoryboard.shtml Tina Vickery National Coordinator USGenWeb Project ----------------- Our USGenWeb Project bylaws state: ARTICLE II. PURPOSE "Section 1. The USGenWeb Project is an organized group of volunteers working to create an online center for genealogical research by linking every county in the United States. The purpose of this organization shall be to gather genealogical and historical information for free online access by researchers". Key phrase being: "free online access by researchers". The bylaws make no reference to which server any member or project of the USGenWeb Project must use. Long set precedence allows for the use of "server of one's choice." That choice extends to county, parish, town, special project, etc., and the USGenWeb National pages. As a Project, we are at a crossroads. Rootsweb and its parent company have been a very gracious and accommodating host for many years. And as a Project we would be remiss not to appreciate that. However, some corporate changes and decisions of late have placed the USGenWeb Project in a tenuous position. We need to evaluate their business decisions vs. our mission of providing " ... free online access by researchers." This is a huge decision and discussion. It is a decision as to whether or not to stay with our current host. It is a discussion I feel that must be held in conjunction with the masthead discussion. It is a discussion and decision that we must have as the USGenWeb Project community. The key question for the USGenWeb Project to discuss is: How important is it that we are seen in the genealogy community as the "USGenWeb Project .. Land of Free Genealogy"? Having answered that question, we need to evaluate many things. We have three domains: .org, .net and .com We need to consider hosting, specialized tools [php, db, etc], maintenance, administration, financing and security, to name a few. We need to make choices to promote the growth and future of the USGenWeb Project. Please understand these concerns are for the *national pages only*, but I feel a very important discussion to have with the entire USGenWeb Project membership. Bottom line is what is best for the USGenWeb Project? Tina Vickery National Coordinator USGenWeb Project

Please feel free to forward to Project lists. --- I want everyone to know, that the Board is very receptive to suggestions, comments, ideas and concerns project members have. The negotiations are in the infancy stage. You can contact us privately or post to the Project lists. The Advisory Board page has been updated to reflect Board members names and email addresses. http://www.usgenweb.com/about/advisoryboard.shtml Tina Vickery National Coordinator USGenWeb Project -------------------------------

Linda: I was able to find your "C" Obituary page at www.ancestry.com I have not yet found any of my personal pages nor my county page there but that just could be that I haven't hit on the correct "search". Amber Hello, Anna: While you say the "Internet Biographical Collection" is not accessible, you have not stated that you have deleted the cached files, nor that you won't find another way to use them. My initial outrage was related to the many thousands of ORIGINAL images, bios, html-authored pages, etc. IN MY OWN DOMAIN. You say, "We cached individual Web pages in an effort to preserve history - if a Web page featuring important family history information were taken down in the future, a cached version would still be available." As if you hve the right to determine the fate of files that DO NOT belong to you. However, I see that they are not being used, as you have said, "for the time being." BUT my files from my GenWeb sites ARE on Ancestry.com - AT THIS MOMENT. This raises this question in my mind: Are you going to take the cached files, harvested for the "Internet Genealogical Collection," and simply incorporate them into other collections - under different names? Just so you get the picture of what I am saying about the GenWeb files being on your Ancestry.com site, try this: Go to Ancestry.com Type in Nettie Atkinson On the Historical Records result, click "United States Obituary Collection" Look on the list until you see William Grant Cunningham - click that When the page comes up, click "View full obituary." That is my "C" obituary file for my Marshall County site. It is no doubt the same for all. I have not looked at the extent to which my GenWeb files are there but they should have NONE. I have not donated anything to Ancestry.com Another thing is that the "United States Obituary Collection" is a MESS. In the example I gave you, you can see that she died 60+ years ago and the obit was in the Wheeling paper. .Yet this is what the Ancestry,com thing says: Newspaper Title: Wilson County News, The Newspaper Location: Floresville, TX, Us Obituary Publication Date: 13 Apr 2004 Linda Cunningham Fluharty _www.lindapages.com_ (http://www.lindapages.com) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forwarded with permission. I have deleted Anna's business card to allow this post to go through the list. Please share with USGenWeb Project lists. Thank you, Tina Vickery National Coordinator USGenWeb Project ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna Fechter To: Tina S. Vickery Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: RE: IBC statement. Tina, Yes, it is okay to pass this note along. If people would like to contact me at anna@rootsweb.com I can pass along the information along. I hope all is going well in your new role! Thank you, Anna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tina S. Vickery [mailto:tsvickery@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:08 AM To: Anna Fechter Subject: Re: IBC statement. Thank you very much Anna. May I forward your note to appropiate Project lists? And who would you like folks to contact if they still have issues. I very much appreciate your prompt answer to this concern. Thank you, Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna Fechter To: Tina S. Vickery Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: RE: IBC statement. Tina, I saw your comment below regarding the cached pages from the Internet Biographical Collection that was released briefly last week on Ancestry.com, and wanted to make sure that you were clear that it has been completely removed from the site. Below is the latest post on the topic: http://blogs.ancestry.com/circle/?p=1792 The collection is not accessible or searchable. We have worked to make sure that any cached pages have been removed and are not accessible, even if trying to go back to them with a saved URL. If you or your members find that there are cached pages that you can still access, please first try clearing the internet cache on your computer. If you can still access the cached page after that, please provide us with the URL so that we can look into the issue further and resolve the error. Thanks, Anna ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Tina S. Vickery [mailto:tsvickery@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:38 AM To: Sean; Anna Fechter; David Graham Subject: Fw: IBC statement. FYI. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tina S. Vickery To: usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com ; state-coord@rootsweb.com ; board@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: IBC statement. Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists. --- Good morning all -- There has been much discussion throughout the genealogical community and USGenWeb Project lists regarding Ancestry's IBC launch. The USGenWeb Project has been contacted by TGN, and all correspondence to date regarding this collection has been shared with the Project. They have halted and dismantled the collection. The Advisory Board is also aware of continuing concerns throughout the Project that cached pages are still being accessed. The Advisory Board will contact Ancestry for further clarification of this issue. Thank you all very much for your patience as we work to answer your concerns. Tina Vickery USGenWeb Project National Coordinator -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STATE-COORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM

Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists. --- Good morning all -- There has been much discussion throughout the genealogical community and USGenWeb Project lists regarding Ancestry's IBC launch. The USGenWeb Project has been contacted by TGN, and all correspondence to date regarding this collection has been shared with the Project. They have halted and dismantled the collection. The Advisory Board is also aware of continuing concerns throughout the Project that cached pages are still being accessed. The Advisory Board will contact Ancestry for further clarification of this issue. Thank you all very much for your patience as we work to answer your concerns. Tina Vickery USGenWeb Project National Coordinator --

Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tina S. Vickery To: board@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Statement on discussion/negotiations - Masthead for USGenWeb Rootweb hosted sites. As some of you may know, I attended the FGS conference in Fort Wayne, IN in mid-August where the USGenWeb Project hosted a booth. While there, I had the pleasure of meeting Sean Lloyd [again], Associate Community Development Manager for rootsweb.com and Donna Popelish, RootsWeb Help desk Manager. It was a pleasure to finally meet Donna, who is long overdue a huge THANK YOU from the USGenWeb Project for her care and responsiveness to the Project. She is one of our unsung heroes for her service! After the election, but prior to September 1, I received an email from Sean, requesting a teleconference with David Graham, RootsWeb Product Manager; Anna Fechter, Community Operations Manager The Generations Network; and Sean. While I agreed to the teleconfernce, I reiterated to them, that I was not National Coordinator yet. But I did agree to listen. And listen I did. Rootsweb and The Generation Network are very eager to work with us, (the Board and the Project membership), to facilitate a design for our masthead that distinctly displays our mission and goals while at the same time addresses their business concerns and decisions. I have no reason to believe that this negotiation will not be done in good faith, as both parties are eager to enter into a mutually acceptable agreement. The conclusion of our conversation was that they would prepare and forward to me a proposal for presentation to the Advisory Board and the Project. I will keep you all abreast of the discussions as they progress. Tina Vickery, National Coordinator USGenWeb Project

Hello, Candie Freeman has updated the Cabell County WVGenWeb page and it has a new URL. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvcabell/ If you have this page linked or bookmarked, please update to the new URL. There is a redirect page up for now in case you forget. Les

**Please Forward as appropriate to USGenWeb Members** The Election Committee is looking for replacement volunteers to fill seats currently vacant, or which will become vacant on 1 January 2007. The "job" includes: Developing a working relationship with SCs and/or ASCs to maintain a current Project membership list, and assisting in all polls and elections, especially during the months of June and part of July to host the USGenWeb Project's Annual Election. Volunteers will have the satisfaction of working with an excellent group of people to handle an important responsibility that allows our members to have a voice in our elections. Any member of the project who is eligible to vote is eligible for membership in the EC, the exception being that no Advisory Board member may serve as a working member of the EC. If interested, please send Email to Jo Branch <bjcb@bellsouth.net> Please state your full name and a word about where you currently are a volunteer, including the URL of you site(s). The following positions are currently open: RAL - 1 year replacement Term ending December 31, 2008 RAL - 2 year replacement Term ending December 31, 2009 NENC - 2 year replacement Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont. Term ending December 31, 2009 NWPL - 2 year replacement Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, South Dakota. Term ending 31 December 2009. SEMA - 1 year replacement Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, New Jersey, South Carolina, Tennessee. Term ending 31 December 2008. SWSC - 2 year replacement Arizona, Arkansas, California, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana Term ending 31 December 2009. SPAR - 2 year replacement State Archives. Term ending 31 December 2009 Thank you, The USGenWeb Election Committee

I have been advised by The Generations Network that everything has now been totally shut off and the cached pages have been removed from the server. As indicated, sometimes it just takes a little time to update pages, disable things, and remove the items in a live, on-line environment. Scott

*"We have decided to remove this collection and search engine from ** Ancestry.com* <http://ancestry.com/>* for the time being. We are still dedicated to providing family historians the online tools and aggregated records that make it easier to trace their family tree and **will work to develop a solution that meets those needs in a way that will be most beneficial to our customers and the community." * For the time being - and - customers first - Not much ambiguity there.... fran On 8/29/07, LCFlu@aol.com <LCFlu@aol.com> wrote: > > Hey, Scott: > > I had not mentioned anything about my files for my 4 WVGenWeb sites > because > I long suspected that Ancestry.com would take those... but I am outraged > that > they have/had ALL of the hundreds of thousands of files stored on my own > domain space. - I launched my own defense over the past few days but as > late as > this afternoon, I found that they has started copying my files (and > everyone > else's) into another NEW Ancestry.com collection, with the statement that > I > had DONATED them. This was aside from the cached files. > > SUDDENLY, this evening that collection, as well as the "Internet > Genealogical Collection," disappeared. > > Is this a victory or just a delay until they can cook up something else? > > http://www.lindapages.com/stealingfiles.htm > > Thanks very much! > > Linda Fluharty > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

... and what I believe will be the final update at this point. Your messages and concerns were heard and received. Scott Burow NC - USGenWeb ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna Fechter To: sburow@swbell.net Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Update on Ancestry's Internet Biographical Collection Scott, I wanted to make sure that you were kept up to date with the latest developments. We have decided to remove the collection from our site. If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me. "Earlier this week we launched the Internet Biographical Collection on Ancestry.com. Our goal was to offer members a search engine that focused primarily on genealogy resources. We intended this collection to help surface family history information that many people would not be able to find easily because it is often scattered among numerous websites across the Internet. We cached individual Web pages in an effort to preserve history - if a Web page featuring important family history information were taken down in the future, a cached version would still be available. Many people have expressed concerns about the collection and the search engine we created on Ancestry.com. We recognize the significant time and resources members of the genealogical community invest to make their family history research available online. Over the past few days we have reevaluated this collection's goals, caching and crawling ability, and user experience. We have decided to remove this collection and search engine from Ancestry.com for the time being. We are still dedicated to providing family historians the online tools and aggregated records that make it easier to trace their family tree and will work to develop a solution that meets those needs in a way that will be most beneficial to our customers and the community." Thank you for your continued support of RootsWeb. Kind regards, Anna Fechter ANNA FECHTER Community Operations Manager The Generations Network

Linda I have never sent Ancestry, Rootsweb & FTW or any of the others out their my personal files but they do have them from others that have harvested my web pages and sadly there is little we can do about it. One cousin had wrong information on his site and not long before he died finally removed it, not sure how many other sites have wrong information. So sorry this has happened to you and I know you have done great work and helped so many others you are one of a kind and thank you for all you have done and will do for all of us. Patricia Viellenave http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvupshur/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvlewis/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabath/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~vahighla/ http://members.tripod.com/~wvgal/ http://www.lubedealer.com/pvsyntheticsgal/ Amsoil 1st in Synthetics Motor Oil ----- Original Message ----- From: <LCFlu@aol.com> To: <wvgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [WVGEN] ANNOUNCEMENT - Ancestry.com Issue > > I made a mistake. Sorry! > > _http://www.lindapages.com/stealingfiles.htm_ > (http://www.lindapages.com/stealingfiles.htm) > > > > > In a message dated 8/27/2007 9:40:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > LesShockey@wildblue.net writes: > > Hi Linda, > > I am getting a file not found message when I try your link. > > > Not Found > > The requested URL /stealingfiles.com was not found on this server. > > Les > > At 10:22 PM 8/27/2007, you wrote: >> >>I come from a WV Irish family that cussed up a storm! It is very easy >>for >>me to fall into that and I sure did today! I have not been this upset >>for > a >>very long time! >> >>After I settle down I will write something better but this is it for >>now: >> >>_http://www.lindapages.com/stealingfiles.com_ >>(http://www.lindapages.com/stealingfiles.com) >> >>Linda Fluharty > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >