Janet, <Have you worked with the Draper Manuscripts??? You can rent them on microfilm from AGLL. (Very difficult to read and transcribe.) They are owned by (I think) WI University, and there are several published indexes - some better than others. Julia, what is AGLL??? I have been trying to figure out the best way to access those manuscripts. . . are there any hard back copies I could get on interlibrary loan? Our LDS library is only open 1 1/2 days a week, so that would take forever. Thought I would call my county library today and also the university library in town.> A local library may be a participating member of AGLL or NARA. Or you also can pay a 1 year subscription and have the rolls snail mailed directly to your home. If you do not have a reader in your home, then take the rolls to a local library and use their readers. Here's more info on these wonderful services: AGLL - American Genealogical Lending Library - a part of Heritage Quest in 1998. Microfilmed genealogy records are available to borrow for one month's time for an inexpensive lending fee to cover postage and handling. Not sure if this service continues today. NARA - a similar service: http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/how_to_rent_microfilm.html The Draper Manuscripts http://library.truman.edu/microforms/draper_manuscripts.htm are such an extensive collection - only 500 volumes or so. Before you decide which volume/or roll of microfilm to rent - use a published index (and there are many different books to help) to find your ancestor's surname. You'll find them in the best of libraries. Some of the best genealogical libraries have all the microfilm of the Draper Manuscript or just the rolls that pertain to their particular area of the frontier. Perhaps someone can check to see if the LDS have the rights to this document - might be another avenue of convenience. Remember, this resource is considered a 1s rate "document" for any lineage society. Good luck, Julia °´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø URLs: Julia A. Krutilla's Ancestor Page: http://home.comcast.net/~krutillaja/index.htm Jefferson County Historical Association & Museum http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjcha/ Fort Steuben Chapter, DAR http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~steubdar/