This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kinder/Barker/Holstein Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jEC.2ACI/690.710.709.733.1 Message Board Post: we have a hit here! I have John Kinder-wife-Mary Holstein. My grandma was Hester Olive Kinder-married to Edgar Elliot Barker. Her father was Fred s. Kinder-married to-Alena Kirk. Her fathers father:Lewis Kinder-married to:Elisabeth Barker. Her fathers fathers father was:John Kinder-married to Mary Holstein. My mother is Loretta S. Barker-daughter of Hester (Kinder) and Edgar Barker