Thank you Don for telling us about the other two POW sites. I also have not heard about these other two POW camps until I readed your email. I am looking forward to checking the sites out. Again thank you, Ivy Sprinkle Woodby Elizabethton, Tn. Formerly of Berkeley Co. WVA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Silvius" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: RE: [WVBERKEL] Andersonville Civil War POW site > Thanks Kevin for you willingness to assist others. > > In the interest of representing both sides on this issue (not to fight the > war again), there were two POW camps in the north that were as bad if not > worse than Andersonville for the Confederate POW's. How were they worse? > The numbers of deaths and prisoners are comparable, but in the north, > food, > shelter and clothing were withheld not because they were unavailable as in > the south, but because they could be. To make matters worse, in the > winter > months the temperatures at the northern POW camps were much lower than > they > were in Alabama. > > Elmira, New York was one of these two POW camps - a member of my family > died > of dysentery here and is buried there today in a numbered grave. The > following links can get you started on your research (or your > enlightenment) > of those Confederates who were confined at Elmira (aka Hellmira) prison. > > "If there ever was a hell on Earth, Elmira Prison was that hell, but it > was > not a hot one, for the thermometer was often 40 degrees below zero." > > http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/elmiraprison/ > > http://home.jam.rr.com/rjcourt52/cwprisons/elmiran.htm > > http://www.civilwarhistory.com/ElmiraPrison/Elmira.htm > > > The other notorious POW camp was named after Stephen A. Douglas and was > located very near Chicago - Camp Douglas. The following links can > enlighten > you on this subject. At Camp Douglas the number of deaths was so > staggering > they stopped keeping records. Many of the dead were simply thrown into > Lake > Michigan rather than buried - only to wash up on the shore at a later > time. > > http://www.censusdiggins.com/prison_camp_douglas.html > > http://www.prairieghosts.com/campd.html > > http://www.cw-book-news.com/release%20info/02-99/chicago.html > > > The only monument at Camp Douglas reads "TO THE MEMORY OF THE SIX THOUSAND > SOUTHERN SOLDIERS HERE BURIED ... WHO DIED IN CAMP DOUGLAS PRISON ... > 1862-65" > > Again, this isn't to start a debate, but to promote education. I'm sure > you've heard the story about the three blind men who were told to describe > an elephant when each was placed at a different point around the elephant > and was able to touch that part of the elephant - there were, of course, > three completely different descriptions. > > With history, it is important to see all sides of the issue before you > decide who was right and who was wrong. As with all things, the American > Civil War was not literally a black and white issue - there were many > shades > of gray. Neither side was 100% wrong and neither side was 100% right and > the fact that this is still being debated today is proof of that. It is > also proof that the winners write the history books because during my > education in public schools and on through receiving my B.S. (not in > history) I had not ever heard of either of these two POW camps. > > Thanks for your time. > > Don Silvius > Berkeley County, WV > > "a mind is like a parachute, if it isn't open, it doesn't work" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Frye [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WVBERKEL] Andersonville Civil War POW site > > Hey gang, > Just a short reminder to the vets and newbies at this site of my free > research for the asking here at Andersonville. > Please email me directly with request so we dont tie up the county site. > Kevin > Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer > www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html > > > > > ==== WVBERKEL Mailing List ==== > Address all of BERKELEY County List > messages to:[email protected] > > > ==== WVBERKEL Mailing List ==== > HAS IT BEEN AWHILE SINCE YOU SENT A MESSAGE TO OUR LIST? > Remember! A quiet list does not ever help anyone at all! >