Although well aware of the limitations of both the IGI and AncestryFiles of the LDS collection, I've found they can provide opportunities that were long beyond my arm's reach. Those who are in the notes as having gone "West" may have gone as far as Lewis, Gilmer or Doddridge or to Missouri, Iowa or Oregon. And how can one find a single name among all the possibilities in all of those books or counties? Knowing a couple of Coffman's had gone to Missouri (or was it Iowa) from the Israel Coffman family of Rowe's Town, and of at least one Corley there too, I decided to tackle the search in the LDS files. I wasn't making great progress, but little by little I found some data sets that others had developed as a result of living "out west." At least it was a start even with many un-examined lines. After about exhausting one workers data, I found a juncture with another set of data that went backward about three generations to a Miller family said to be from Grafton with the oldest having been born in Germany in 1807 -- rather late to be of much interest. But I decided perhaps it would help someone working on the local Millers if I pulled out the data and assembled a pedigree. Interesting, but only in an abstract way. Then I tried to find the widow Miller in Taylor census records. No luck. Then tried to find her second husband she had apparently gone to Missouri with. Not a single Oliver in Taylor, and certainly not a John Oliver. What now? There was that one birth place given as near Fellowsville, Barbour Co., WV. For the year given there was not Barbour county, no West Virginia and who knows if there was a Fellowsville in the 1830s. But just maybe... Widow "Synthy Miller." Her first husband was said to have died in 1844. Could she have moved over to Barbour where perhaps that one child was born near Fellowsville, Barbour Co. Ah, a Cynthia Miller, born 1811 (well, that's a surprise, age 39 in August of 1850). And nine children, all the names match and all are the correct age except for one that is 20 rather than expected 21. Looks like we have something. I wonder if there could be an Oliver? Ah, just one Oliver family, headed by John Oliver (15 years older than Cynthia). Wife Elizabeth is still living, but looks pretty good. But he's not only in Barbour, but she is in the heart of Miller country with several recorded the same day and a few a day or two later or earlier. Ah, and there's a child name Levi (her late husband's name). And there's another with a 2 year old Cynthia. And Cynthia has an Andrew and severa others that carry names found in other Miller families in Cove district. Rather than avoiding confusion, perhaps this will be useful to someone working on the local Millers. But I didn't have children for most of Synthy's children that went west with her. Local records show one child having a daughter Virginia born in 1853. And one of the younger daughters is married to a "Carrel." That's a peculiar name for Barbour. Maybe Carle (as the 1850 census spelled the not very common name Carl locally)-- hey, his parents match the only Carle family her (and in the Coves). Perhaps I should go check the data base again. Perhaps I've overlooked some wives or husbands that will give clues to this family and perhaps some that married before leaving. Martin Miller, wife Mary Beavers. How did I miss that one. Hm? And little Virginia's mother was supposed to be Mary. Just one Beaver family in Barbour in 1850. There's no marriage for the first child i the family -- Mary, age 19. And Louie has a marriage date -- 1852, one of those years between the late 1840s and the start of the new record books in 1853. Beaver, that's a relative; of course, his first wife (deceased in 1850) was a Lesher and her maternal grandfather was George Coffman; George was the father of Israel. The circle through the Missouri, S. Sioux, and Sioux City, Iowa workers had returned me to a first cousin of one of the Coffmans I had started the journey with. Just never know where an interesting pathway will lead. How often the roaming has proved to be faster that trying a head on forced search. Oh, you'd like to see the Miller family? Okay, I'll tack it on. Perhaps there is something there for someone working on the Millers and had a dead end path to went nowhere. ============================================================ Descendants of Thomas Thomas 1 Thomas Thomas . +Rebecca ?? ........ 2 Sinthy Thomas b: July 20, 1811 in VA d: January 15, 1884 in Azen, Scotland Co., MO ............ +Levi Miller b: 1807 d: November 4, 1844 in Taylor or Barbour Co., VA m: October 16, 1828 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA ................... 3 Martin Miller b: October 4, 1829 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA d: September 5, 1906 ....................... +Mary Beavers b: Abt. 1833 m: July 28, 1852 .............................. 4 Virginia Miller b: October 14, 1853 ................... 3 Thomas T. Miller b: July 31, 1831 in Randolph Co., VA d: July 5, 1922 in Near Rutlegde, Scotland Co., MO ....................... +Angeline Penn b: August 16, 1835 in Kanawha Co., VA d: June 14, 1920 in Near Azen, Scotland Co., MO m: January 15, 1862 in Scotland Co., MO .............................. 4 John R. Miller b: January 1, 1863 in Near Arbela, Scotland Co., MO d: March 21, 1914 in Buhl, Twin Falls Co., ID .................................. +Gertrude Nutter b: July 15, 1874 in Etna, Scotland Co., MO d: January 12, 1953 in Twin Falls, Twin Falls Co., ID m: March 19, 1893 in Etna, Scotland Co., MO ......................................... 5 Luella Miller b: February 16, 1894 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: June 18, 1949 ............................................. +Squire Elmer Dillion b: Abt. 1890 m: June 24, 1912 ......................................... 5 Augusta Viola Miller b: April 18, 1895 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: June 15, 1965 ............................................. +Frank Thather m: May 7, 1913 ......................................... 5 Fannie May Miller b: May 1, 1897 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: May 25, 1977 ............................................. +Mattis Joens b: Abt. 1893 m: April 2, 1917 ......................................... 5 Andrew Jackson Miller b: April 19, 1899 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: February 2, 1920 ......................................... 5 ?? Miller ......................................... 5 ?? Miller ......................................... 5 ?? Miller ......................................... 5 Joshurt Warren Miller b: February 6, 1912 in Sedgwick, Sedgwick Co., CO d: June 21, 1974 in Buhl, Twin Falls Co., ID ............................................. +?? Fritz .................................................... 6 ?? Miller .................................................... 6 ?? Miller .............................. 4 Cynthia A. Miller b: August 14, 1864 in MO d: Bef. 1922 .................................. +John J. Drummond b: Abt. 1860 m: February 3, 1886 .............................. 4 James M. Miller b: January 24, 1866 d: Bef. 1900 .................................. +Gussiz McDaniel b: Abt. 1870 .............................. 4 E. Icylonia Miller b: May 4, 1869 d: May 4, 1901 .................................. +Charles Kisling b: Abt. 1865 .............................. 4 Thomas C. Miller b: May 12, 1871 in Azen, Scotland Co., MO d: 1954 .................................. +Ida May ?? b: Abt. 1875 m: December 16, 1896 .............................. 4 Mary Jane Miller b: October 7, 1875 in MO d: 1961 .................................. +Jasper T. Cunningham b: Abt. 1871 ................... 3 Andrew Miller b: March 5, 1833 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA d: 1855 ................... 3 Rebecca Miller b: March 2, 1835 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA d: March 28, 1904 ....................... +Martin Carle b: Abt. 1832 in Adams Co., PA m: June 17, 1856 in Barbour Co., VA ................... 3 Isaac Miller b: April 1, 1836 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA d: November 10, 1858 ................... 3 Margaret Miller b: May 3, 1839 in Prob. Grafton, Randolph or Harrison Co., VA d: February 13, 1919 ....................... +Joseph Sehirch b: Abt. 1835 m: February 28, 1861 ................... 3 Harrison Miller b: October 19, 1840 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA d: April 28, 1910 in Capron, Wood Co., OK ....................... +Margaret Ellen Leeper b: May 28, 1843 in Action, Marion Co., IN d: May 1, 1923 in Capron, Wood Co., OK m: June 16, 1864 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO .............................. 4 Charles Grant Miller b: April 20, 1865 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: October 26, 1958 .............................. 4 Levi Joseph Miller b: April 15, 1868 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: September 3, 1965 in Spearman, Hanford Co., TX .................................. +Lilly Marion Corley b: April 5, 1873 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: July 21, 1958 in Lamar, Barton Co., MO m: January 2, 1890 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO ......................................... 5 ?? Miller ......................................... 5 James Harrison Miller b: February 20, 1891 in Azen, Scotland Co., MO d: September 7, 1891 ......................................... 5 Roy Miller b: July 27, 1892 in Azen, Scotland Co. MO d: May 14, 1972 ............................................. +Nettie Campbell m: November 5, 1917 ......................................... *2nd Wife of Roy Miller: ............................................. +Elva Woodstock m: April 23, 1924 ......................................... 5 Dell Freeman Miller b: May 27, 1894 in Azen, Scotland Co., MO d: April 12, 1930 ............................................. +Maud Myrtle Van Buskirk m: September 5, 1913 ......................................... 5 Lilly Mae Miller b: May 15, 1899 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO ............................................. +William Newingham m: March 29, 1919 ......................................... *2nd Husband of Lilly Mae Miller: ............................................. +Walter Riley Shaull m: January 6, 1956 ......................................... 5 Daisy Avelena Miller b: August 3, 1901 in Alva, Wood Co., OK ............................................. +Ernest Danial Hough m: August 16, 1920 ......................................... *2nd Husband of Daisy Avelena Miller: ............................................. +Clarence Hamilton m: June 4, 1948 ......................................... 5 John Miller b: February 8, 1903 in Alva, Wood Co., OK d: July 16, 1969 ......................................... 5 ?? Miller ......................................... 5 ?? Miller ......................................... 5 Emery Miller b: June 4, 1912 in Alva, Wood Co., OK d: November 1, 1957 ......................................... 5 ?? Miller .............................. 4 Elmer "E" Miller b: August 15, 1869 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: April 16, 1960 .............................. 4 Arman Miller b: December 20, 1871 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: May 5, 1913 .............................. 4 John Leslie Miller b: May 12, 1874 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: August 13, 1962 .............................. 4 William Frank Miller b: July 9, 1876 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: May 1966 .............................. 4 Clara Miller b: October 28, 1879 in Memphis, Scotland Co., MO d: February 13, 1949 .............................. 4 Leonard Miller b: June 23, 1883 d: May 18, 1969 ................... 3 Mary Miller b: April 5, 1842 in Prob. Randolph Co., VA d: October 20, 1921 ....................... +James Armstrong b: Abt. 1838 ................... 3 Maria Miller b: September 1, 1843 in Prop. Barbour Co., VA d: November 17, 1862 in Scotland Co., MO ........ *2nd Husband of Sinthy Thomas: ............ +John Oliver m: Aft. 1850 ============================================================ If anything looks of value, I have a documented copy showing sources of the data from the LDS database. I can give you a gedcom file or a more customary paragraph printout. Nick