Hello all, About a month ago, someone from the list emailed me with the name of a researcher who had done an obit search for them. I am embarrassed to say that I somehow lost that email with the name. Can whoever sent that to me, pretty please, resend?? Thank you so very much, Jill Bolton

Looking for information on Eleanor F. Cole m. Jesse Male, Sr. "The Early History of Taylor County, West Virginia" lists Eleanor F. Cole as one of the children of : Joshua Cole b. 1770 d. 1848 married Elanore "aka" Ellen Cole b. 10 June 1783 and had 13 children, between 1803-1824 Child 7 is Eleanor F. Cole and says - "no more data." Does anyone have any information on Eleanor F. Cole and Jesse Male, Sr. or any other information to share, or best of all, relatives of either of them. Thanks so much. Dee.

Hello -- This is my first time to post to this list. Looking for information on the family of: JAMES WILLIAM LILLEY and NANCY MABEL WAYBLE (dates unknown). They had a son named JAMES FRANKLIN LILLEY, born in Phillipi, Barbour Co., WV on 8 July 1895. He married ELMA PAGE PRICE and they lived in Fayette Co., PA. He died 11 Mar 1977 and she died 16 Mar 1975. Both are buried in the Sylvan Heights Cemetery in Fayette Co., PA. Thank you. Joan Derry [email protected]

Is anybody out there working on this family or have the family somewhere in their line? I would like to hear from you. Please E-Mail me at my E-mail address. I have a lot of info on family. Thank Katy Myers

For those of you who are not subscribed to the WVFootsteps list, the following files have been uploaded in the archives: Biographies: Walter T. McVicker Adeline S. Poling James Stanley Corder Raymond W. Johnson Frank P. Rease Frederick Earl Thompson James W. Thornhill James Henry Felton John C. Felton Richard Edward Talbott Emmit O. Boylen Jules A. Viquesney Salathiel Lee O'Neal Lee L. Bennett Albert Galletin Jenkins Waitman Denver Corder William Alonzo Corder History: Coyle & Richardson Dept. Store Obits:(some have been posted to this list by Bridgette Osz) Nellie Moats Louisa Smith Burl D. Phillips The url for the archives page is: http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/wv/barbour.htm Happy Hunting, Jan

Hi Everyone, Can anyone add anything to this tiny bit of information that I have on the Fawley family. Two sisters in my Armstrong family married into this one. I have some information on Carrie's family, but know little about Icy Armstrong and Noah Edward Fawley. The only child I know of born to Icy & Ed Fawley died as an infant. Icy and the infant are buried at Stringtown Cemetery. Any additions would be helpful. Thanks, Jan Descendants of Perry Fawley 1 Perry Fawley b: February 1861 d: Aft. 1920 .. +Sarah M. b: February 1864 d: Aft. 1920 m: Abt. 1901 .......... 2 Noah Edward Fawley b: 08 August 1888 d: April 1968 in Monongalia County, WV .............. +Icy Pearl Armstrong b: 02 August 1889 in Tucker County, West Virginia m: 20 January 1912 in Barbour County, West Virginia Father: Thomas Jefferson Armstrong Mother: Lydia E. Adams ...................... 3 Dollie Marie Fawley b: 20 June 1920 in Barbour county, West Virginia d: 26 July 1920 in Barbour County, West Virginia .......... 2 Lemuel P. Fawley b: May 1883 .............. +Carrie Armstrong b: 20 April 1881 Father: Thomas Jefferson Armstrong Mother: Lydia E. Adams .......... 2 Charley Fawley b: November 1885 .......... 2 Joseph Fawley b: January 1890 .......... 2 Amanda Fawley b: September 1893 .......... 2 Alabama Fawley b: May 1897 .......... 2 Eli Fawley b: May 1900

The Library of Congress National Digital Library Program and the Geography and Map Division announce collection number eighty-three at the American Memory online collections Web site: "The American Revolution and Its Era: Maps and Charts of North America and the West Indies, 1750-1789" at: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/armhtml/armhome.html The collection presents an important historical record of the mapping of North America and the Caribbean online. Advancements in mapmaking tools and the onset of the French and Indian War and, later, the American Revolution, created a flurry of activity in European and North American mapmaking and publishing. This online collection will include well over two thousand different maps and manuscripts, with easily as many or more unnumbered copies, many with distinct colorations and annotations. Over the next several years many of the maps and charts in this bibliography will be added to the online collection each month. At this time, approximately 100 maps are being released. Almost six hundred of the items in this collection are original manuscript drawings, a large number of which are the work of such famous mapmakers as John Montresor, Samuel Holland, Claude Joseph Sauthier, John Hills and William Gerard De Brahm.. Historical cartographers can compare multiple editions, states, and impressions of several of the most important maps of the period, follow the development of a particular map from the manuscript sketch to the finished printed version and its foreign derivatives, and examine the cartographic styles and techniques of surveyors and mapmakers from six different countries Great Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Italy, and the United States. Most of the items presented here are documented in "Maps and Charts of North America and the West Indies, 1750-1789: A Guide to the Collections in the Library of Congress". The online essay "Mapping the American Revolution and Its Era" is taken from this bibliography. Map specifications and scanning The digital images were created by staff in the Geography and Map Division by scanning the original map on a large-format (24 x 34 inches) flatbed scanner using RGB (red- green-blue) color separation. The scanner was loaned to the Division by Tangent Color Systems. Each raster image was produced by scanning the item at a resolution of 300 dots- per-inch and converting the resulting proprietary file format to TIFF format. These TIFF files, which average approximately 180Mb, are moved over a network to Surestore jukebox 1.3Gb magnetic optical platters for temporarily offline storage. The Surestore jukebox and the associated servers and workstations were donated by the Hewlett Packard Company. 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Several of you responded--Jerry McClure was one, and Ivan Haddix, I believe and maybe some one else. But my email was eaten by a virus--now it is quarantined and I cannot get it. Can you please resend either to me or to the list? thank you very much.

Jerry and List: Joab Martin lies buried at Mt. Morris, completely alone. He had at least 4 wives, three of them sisters of the Sevier(Severe) family--father Bartholomew Severe and mother Huldah. I have been unable to find anything about Joab's parents, William and Rebecca Martin. William is 31 in the 1850 Barbour Co. census, and Rebecca is 25. Joab is 8 years old. Joab's 4th and last wife was Julia Ann Boyles Haddix (married Sanford Haddix first). Does anyone have any information on this family? Joab had siblings named Albert, Mary E. Sylvester, William, Henry, Lavina, Sally, George,Elizabeth, and Zana. Any information appreciated. Mary M. Jerry McClure wrote: > Henry D. Martin and Melker J. Martin were brothers who moved to the Mt. > Morris area of the Cove District in the early 1800's. They had at least > three sisters: Apalonia (m. George Walter), Susannah (m. Anderson Jones) > and Elizabeth Martin. Their father was also a Henry Martin. The family > includes the following... > > Descendants of Henry Martin > > 1 Henry Martin > . 2 Melker J. Martin 1801 - 1875 > ..... +Sophia Frushour 1810 - 1896 > ..... 3 Maria Martin 1831 - > .........+John Burton 1830 - > ..... 3 Jacob Martin 1832 - > ..... 3 Emily Martin 1834 - 1895 > .........+George Hanway 1830 - 1904 > ..... 3 Mary Ann Martin 1836 - 1919 > .........+Silas S. Wright 1834 - 1916 > ..... 3 Elizabeth Martin 1838 - 1921 > .........+Samuel Miller > ..... 3 Evaline Martin 1839 - > .........+Charles Phelps 1831 - 1911 > ..... 3 Henry D. Martin 1841 - 1912 > .........+Mary Elizabeth Miller 1847 - 1895 > ..... 3 Margaret Martin 1843 - 1918 > ..... 3 Appalonia Martin 1845 - 1923 > .........+Ezekiel Hanway 1837 - 1917 > ..... 3 Barbara Martin 1848 - > ..... 3 John Wesley Martin 1851 - > .........+Mary Morehead > ..... 3 Sarah C. Martin 1853 - > .........+Commadore D. Burkholder > ..... 3 Homer D. Martin 1856 - > . 2 Henry D. Martin 1805 - > ..... +Margaret Means 1809 - > ..... 3 Barbara Martin 1829 - > .........+Sanford Scott > ..... 3 Anthony Martin 1830 - > ..... 3 Isaac Martin 1832 - > ..... 3 Catharine Martin 1834 - > .........+Ezekiel Hart > ..... 3 Jacob Martin 1836 - 1864 > ..... 3 Apalonia Martin 1838 - > .........+E. C. Hull > ..... 3 Matilda Martin 1840 - > .........+George Ryan > ..... 3 George H. Martin 1842 - > ..... 3 Susanna M. Martin 1845 - > .........+John Clay Felton > ..... 3 Elizabeth "Lizzie" Martin 1847 - > .........+David Menear > ..... 3 Margaret "Mary" Martin 1849 - > .........+Upton Forman > ..... 3 Eveline Martin 1851 - > .........+Charles Cornwell > ..... 3 Hester V. Martin 1855 - 1855 > ..... 3 Eliena Martin 1861 - 1863 > . 2 Apalonia Martin 1807 - 1887 > ..... +George Walter > ..... 3 Henry Martin Walter > ..... 3 Mary Ann Walter > ..... 3 Barbara Walter > ..... 3 Margaret Walter > ..... 3 Appalonia Walter > ..... 3 Solomon Walter > ..... 3 Isaac Walter > ..... 3 Virginia "Jennie" M. Walter > . 2 Susannah Martin > ..... +Anderson Jones > . 2 Elizabeth Martin > > I would like to exchange information with any who are descendants of or > interested in these families. I am a descendant of Melker Martin who moved > from Barbour Co. to Iowa and then to Kansas. I would also appreciate > information about the Mt. Morris area. > > Jerry

I would only question that you feel you must assign a set of parents. If there is no evidence, please, just present a working hypothesis. The present pedigrees on the internet contain so many cases of defined families where there is no reported evidence to establish the relationships that are stated with NO qualifications, doubt or reservations. In one family I am working with there are four different fathers listed for a groups that may consist of two brothers and two sisters. One or two of the claims are based on one persons memory of family tradition. Fine, say so. But don't, please, give a final decision as if it were engraved on a set of marble plaques without at least making clear the basis for the conclusion. Better yet, offer the data and arguments and let further research define a conclusion if one is ever possible. Another good example is the Nancy Hanks lineage. One solution has been given and quoted repeatedly. But no clear evidence comes forth. Another worker arguing from the data that is available gives good arguments toward a quite different solution. Admittedly for both groups there is a vested interest. This is, of course, an interesting case because many giving Lincoln's genealogy simply "know nothing at all about Nancy's ancestors." :-) Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert M. Hershman <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: Kelley, Jasper and William > Cousins and fellow researchers. > As you may or may not be aware we have been engaged in the question as to > the parents of Jasper and William Kelley. Samuel Kelley and Delila Rolands > had sons named Jasper born ca 1835 and William born ca 1834. Also Absolem > Kelley and Ruth Chenoweth had a son Jasper born ca 1840 and William born ca > 1841. > > Basically the descendants of Able William Kelley lived in Randolph County on > Kelley Mountain near Montrose. The descendants of Ebenezer Kelley lived > near Meadowville and some moved to the new land purchased in 1814 near > Philippi. > > I would like to say that I think those who descend from these individuals > and I should make the decision as to the parents of the Jasper and William > who married the Moore girls in Barbour County. > > I would like to thank all those who sent messages with census information > and other data they could research. I received about 40 messages on the > subject. The data ranged from census info to Civil War Records to web > sites. I did not receive any definite proof one way or the other. No > smoking gun. > > I think that the preponderance of evidence is that Jasper and William were > the sons of Absolom Kelley and not related to the Ebenezer clan. This is > what I think. Final decision should be made by those who are descendants. > > The web site www.chenowethsite.com has pretty good information. I had much > of the same information he has since Martha the sister of Jasper and William > married into my Murphy line. One fault with this info is that in his > narrative he says that Jasper Kelley was one of four brothers who fought in > the Civil War but he only lists three sons. I also only have three sons > listed. > > Without positive proof one has to make assumptions. Not only did Jasper and > William marry sisters, but also, their sister Lucinda married a Moore > brother. Samuel Kelley had no daughter named Lucinda. > > When the descendants of Jasper and William make a decision let me know. I > what happened to Jasper and William sons of Samuel? > > Bob Hershman > College Place, WA > >

Hello, I'm looking for info on the shaw line (charles and catherine (jett) Shaw )but mainly on there one son Larkin shaw 1790-1846 but dont know where he was laid to rest at or his wf-sarah oneil 1809-1888 but I do have they died in Barbour co but just dont know where . If anyone can help or is researching the same line ,I have info that mit help you out thanks nena (ohio)

Cousins and fellow researchers. As you may or may not be aware we have been engaged in the question as to the parents of Jasper and William Kelley. Samuel Kelley and Delila Rolands had sons named Jasper born ca 1835 and William born ca 1834. Also Absolem Kelley and Ruth Chenoweth had a son Jasper born ca 1840 and William born ca 1841. Basically the descendants of Able William Kelley lived in Randolph County on Kelley Mountain near Montrose. The descendants of Ebenezer Kelley lived near Meadowville and some moved to the new land purchased in 1814 near Philippi. I would like to say that I think those who descend from these individuals and I should make the decision as to the parents of the Jasper and William who married the Moore girls in Barbour County. I would like to thank all those who sent messages with census information and other data they could research. I received about 40 messages on the subject. The data ranged from census info to Civil War Records to web sites. I did not receive any definite proof one way or the other. No smoking gun. I think that the preponderance of evidence is that Jasper and William were the sons of Absolom Kelley and not related to the Ebenezer clan. This is what I think. Final decision should be made by those who are descendants. The web site www.chenowethsite.com has pretty good information. I had much of the same information he has since Martha the sister of Jasper and William married into my Murphy line. One fault with this info is that in his narrative he says that Jasper Kelley was one of four brothers who fought in the Civil War but he only lists three sons. I also only have three sons listed. Without positive proof one has to make assumptions. Not only did Jasper and William marry sisters, but also, their sister Lucinda married a Moore brother. Samuel Kelley had no daughter named Lucinda. When the descendants of Jasper and William make a decision let me know. I what happened to Jasper and William sons of Samuel? Bob Hershman College Place, WA

Wouldn't you know, the first person to ask, and I don't have a good answer! I don't know this branch of the family, but will try to find out something. I'll get back to you! Linda Cara wrote: > Linda, > I do have an interest in an aunt who married into the Zinn family in that > area. Her name was Mary A. E. Rucker[sometimes spelled Rocker] and she > married Adline Zinn in Barbour Co. Oct 21, 1897. They had 3 children that > I know of: Lester, Audrey and Ruby. I'm interested in finding descendents > of this line of Zinns to collaborate on some related dated and info. Have > you any information on this line? Cara

Hi to you all. I'm delighted to see the discussion about the Mt. Olive Cemetery. My Zinn family is buried in that cemetery, including Alpheus, Peter, Sylvanus ( I think he's there) and my grandparents, Lacy Glenn Zinn and his wife, Addie Columbia Wince Zinn. I am also related as a cousin to the Corders, so it's been grand to see all the Corder history. My brother was at the Mt. Olive Church last week with my mother, who grew up going to church there. He says the church is still being used, and in fact has a handicapped parking place, although, he says, since the parking lot is grass and gravel, he's not sure how you'd get to it. My mother is 80, and it will probably be her last trip home. The grave someone mentioned that is labeled M.A.Z. is the grave of Mary Ann Seiler (Saylor) Zinn, and the grave next to it is G. Z., which we believe is George Zinn, although some accounts say he is buried in Preston County. If anyone is interested in the history of the Zinns, Winces, or Ryans or Gawthrops, I'd be happy to share. Thanks again for the walk down memory lane, and for the update on the churches in the area. Linda in Utah

Linda, I do have an interest in an aunt who married into the Zinn family in that area. Her name was Mary A. E. Rucker[sometimes spelled Rocker] and she married Adline Zinn in Barbour Co. Oct 21, 1897. They had 3 children that I know of: Lester, Audrey and Ruby. I'm interested in finding descendents of this line of Zinns to collaborate on some related dated and info. Have you any information on this line? Cara

Nice to have a good discussion on churches and cemeteries in Barbour Co. Much can be learned from them: A few people have written me wanting to make sure they understand just which Mt. Olive Cemetery is which.... First, there is the original cemetery located at the bottom of the hill on Hacker Creek. It is often referred to as the OLD Mt Olive Cemetery. In the book THEY REST QUIETLY by Chapman, it is referred to by that name and 44 graves are listed. A few people call it the Corder Cemetery because William Corder provided the land and the early Corders are buried there. This location was the site of the original Mt. Olive Primitive Baptist Church which was constituted 21June1817. Then, there is the newer Mt. Olive Cemetery on top of the hill about a mile from the Old Mt. Olive Cemetery. That is the one across the road from the present Mt. Olive Church. According to THEY REST QUIETLY, this cemetery contains several hundred graves...the oldest death date I could find was 1826. There are several sandstone markers that can not be read and indications that a number of people have been buried there and no marker exists today. This newer Mt. Olive Cemetery is often called THE OLD QUAKER CEMETERY and I think it was called this by the WPA workers who recorded cemeteries in the 1930s. Actually you could say there are two cemeteries in one, since the original Quaker burials are now surrounded by burials of non-Quakers. I assume that most of the recent burials were that of Baptist members of the newer Mt. Olive Church. Two cemeteries in one....so to speak, but, there is one fence around all the graves. Actually, as I understand it, the original Quakers still own this land as they never gave up their ownership when they left the area about 1805. The Barbour County Circuit Court appoints trustees to look after it. They originally purchased this land in 1800. There is a nice marker on the site that says "MEETING PLACE AND BURIAL GROUND, RICHLAND MEETING, SOCIETY OF FRIENDS". It was placed there in 1951. So, there must have been a Quaker Church/Meetinghouse on the property as well. Now, back to the original Mt. Olive Church at the foot of the hill on Hacker. Here are several quotes from A SKETCH OF THE LIFE OF JOSHUA SIMMONS CORDER, by his daughter Semma E. Corder. The book says: On the 21st day of June, 1817, Mount Olive Primitive Baptist Church was constituted with a membership of 10, at a private house in the neighborhood known as the Rice house, by perhaps Elders Simeon Harris and Phineas Wells. After the church was duly organized her members began to look about for a suitable lot on which to erect a house of worship. Seeing this, grandfather (William Corder) said "I am not a member of your body (he later joined), but the Lord has given me what little I have, and I will give you a corner of my little tract. My comments: Now comes the split in the membership of the church. This was done about 1838. The leger for the "old side" Baptists shows their "restart" 26Jan1839. Back to Semma Corder's book: The church was now permanently divided. The minority held the house and lot, because they were the orthodox Baptists. The clerk, however, went with the "new side" , as they were called, and the church lost her record book. (sure would like to find that book). My comment, based on what Semma Corder said in her book: Rev. Joshua Corder was building a house for himself and decided the church needed a new structure. Not clear on the date, but, it was in the 1850s. From Semma Corder: (Joshua Corder) up to Grandfather Corder's he went and asked him how much he would subscribe for the erection of a new church-house. William Corder gave $200. This delighted and encouraged father, who made the church a gift by guaranty deed of a one-half acre lot on one corner of his land, on the Beverly and Fairmont Pike, on which to erect said house, subscribing a considerable amount of money besides. The deed is dated Dec22, 1855. The house was built of woodwork throughout, and was a comfortable and commodious building for those days. The increase of business along the Pike was so rapid that travelers were constantly calling at father's house for food and lodging, they were about to eat him out of house and home. In 1858, he applied to the county court for a license for a wayside inn, known as Hacker House, which was granted, and he kept the Hackersville post office. After the Federal soldiers used the church-house for a stable, the hull was left standing, but the flue being damaged it was burned down by the church, allowing a little subscription school opened in the same, contrary to father's will. The church now being out of a place to worship, he opened his dwelling-house in which to worship. Seeing that he was imposed upon, his brother James assisted him in repairing the old schoolhouse for the use of the church. In the late sixties, a serious trouble arose in Mt. Olive Church over some frivolous matters. ........but, not without loss of her record book, it being captured by the clerk, who had been excluded. Said clerk organized a church, and sent up a letter to the next session of the association, claiming to be the Mt. Olive Church. (a hearing was held). (Rev. Joshua Corder spoke for the original group of worshipers) "Mt. Olive Church has done her duty, and if she cannot have her seat in the association in order, she will stand on the outside." A motion was soon made that the letter presented by my father did represent Mt. Olive Church. My comments: I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE "NEW SIDE" GROUP THAT LEFT IN 1838. HAVING READ MISS CORDER'S ACCOUNT, I NOW THINK THAT THE EXISTING MT. OLIVE CHURCH ON TOP OF THE HILL MUST BE JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE ORIGINAL MT OLIVE PRIMITIVE BABPTIST CHURCH. I haven't always felt that way, but it makes sense. The original "old side" group wouldn't let splinter groups take the name. And, there are lots of Corders buried in the new cemetery. Ole Joshua Corder is buried in the Old Mt. Olive Cemetery. He was such a strong religious leader that his younger family members would not have dared to be buried in a "new side" cemetery. "Joshua would have haunted them". One more comment from Semma Corder's book: In 1871 the association voted unanimously that they "would not fellowship any secret leagues, or combinations, such as the Free Masonry, Good Templars, Odd Fellows, and the like, which we believe are unauthorized by the word of God". Interesting?? Rev. Joshua Corder married over 300 couples and Semma claims he never took any payment. Also, in a letter I have, written by Joshua, he tells a fellow " God was a Baptist, you have to be a Baptist of the right kind to get into Heaven". Boy, I'll bet he was someone to know. Don't think he would approve of some of the stuff happening in the world today. Bottom line, I am not sure just how many Mt. Olive Church buildings were constructed. I do think we have a good idea where they stood, however. Sure would like comments on anything I have said. I would love to have some proven corrections. Sorry I had to talk so much about my ancestors, but, the Mt. Olive Churches were a main part of their lives....Lyle Corder

One and all, Please feel free to contribute to this line of discussion! My reservation with respect to "interpretation" was in considering the graveyard of the Society of Friends and that of the Mt. Olive church (the one moderns recognize) as being one-and-the-same. I believe--and you may be implying the same--that the Society of Friends used the site first and that this was supplemented late by those who used the location for their "new" Mt. Olive church. Although today one may go to the same location to find either, the part representing the earlier burials was apparently initially behind the burials of the Mt. Olive church members. Now, the later burials have completely surrounded the older burial ground. Without distinguishing the likelihood of two sequential uses (perhaps overlapping by late of the Friends and earlier of the Mt. Olive members) a visitor today might well assume that all represents a single burial ground in which both congregations were the same. In the "old" church burial ground on Hacker's creek I found burials of an early Zinn couple. I recall the initials M.A.Z. on one, which I took to be the grave of Mary Ann Zinn. (A friend throughout elementary and high school had the same initials, Marjorie Ann Zinn.) The other may have been P.Z., perhaps Peter Zinn, but I will not make a firm claim to that. At that time (late 1940s or very early 1950s) the cemetery was largely overgrown by Smilax (running brier); not unlike the older Bethel Church cemetery in Glade district at that time. I never attempted to record in that older cemetery as it was nearly impossible to penetrate the overgrown in most of it. A further note on location: The old cemetery is on a knoll with Hacker's Creek on one side and a small run which has two branches (one of the latter parallels 119-250 and the other branch has the dirt road mentioned in previous communication). When the 1957 topographic map was prepared the cemetery was shown as completely wooded. Interestingly (to me) the two Little Bethel Churches (and cemeteries) seem to have separated in the same era as the Mt. Olive separation. The older Little Bethel, commonly known at one time locally as "Old Bethel" was largely abandoned by it's congregation, but the other "New Bethel" continues in active use. "Old Bethel" is very near Meadowville (not far from the "Elliott" or "Johnson" graveyard) while "New Bethel" is farther west and northward on Sand Ridge (with Sugar Creek to the south and Glady Creek to the north). The "Old" one has been cleaned and is in rather good shape today, the "New" one seems to have been well kept through the years although some vandalism occurred to the latter sometime after the early 1970s I recently saw a photograph, provided by a by a genealogist from Kentucky who visited the site a couple of weeks ago, made before the stones were broken .) Someone here has spoken of trying to get some of the old cemeteries cleaned up and better maintained. An organization was established a few years ago in Philippi to serve as a container foundation to assist various groups in establishing endowments for continued care. One of these is the cemetery at the Crossroads at Tacy which has been well kept throughout this century. Those concerned might want to examine the potential in this container foundation. I have mixed feelings on cleaning cemeteries that cannot be supervised because much of the "Old White Oak Cemetery" was destroyed by vandals several years ago as a result of its easy access from Route 92. I am unable to locate many stones that were in good condition about 1950. Finally, although the Baptists seemed to be the most active at splintering during the 1800s, the Methodists also divided into "Northern" and "Southern" branches (and perhaps some others) and in Philippi there were two Methodist churches at least until the 1930s or 1940s. I initially attended the Northern Methodist Church which was located where the IGA (formerly A & P grocery) parking lot is now, across from the Rite-Aid drugstore which is where the old city school building use to be. The parsonage was to the rear of the old white wooden church building which became occupied by the D. Ryan bookstore for many years. I do not recall that the other Methodist church had a parsonage before the churches united, but the church was known as the Crim Memorial Church and still stands at the corner of Pike Street and Walnut. A few years ago the Methodist and United Brethern joined and I'm told that two congregations still persist in the Crim building and the new brick church built by the UB behind the old Post Office (now Library) in Philippi. The nearby old white wooden UB building received a new point job this summer -- I don't know its current usage. Anyone care to add additional notes on the old churches. There are many still used and other now abondoned of which I know little. The 1918 county topographic survey map showed locations of many others. There was one at Vannoy's Mill(s) I believe. There were several near the Shiloh church east of Danville where there also is a church. There were two churches at Nestorville (and was there a church at cemetery down Teter's creek from present day Nestorville?) Apparently there were at least two churches on the Campbell farm (originally Jacob Nester farm) -- one was joint by Lutheran and Presbyterian. Does anyone know what the other was? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:22 AM Subject: Fwd: Society of Friends Cemetery and the Mount Olive Cemetery > Dear Nick and Barbour Co Listers: > > Nick, I am forwarding your email to the Barbour list and my reply because I > have long been interested in the number of Mt. Olive churches that were built > and their locations. I am glad that you made your comments. > > First, let me tell you what I know and think: > > The first Mt. Olive Church was organized in 1817 and a log structure was > built on land given by my g g g grandfather William Corder. It set on a > small knoll on State Rt 119/4.. actually, this is on Hacker Creek...at the > foot of the hill going down from A-B College, off US Rts 250/119, going > North toward Pruntytown and Grafton. If you go up the hill from the original > church site, about 1 mile southwest, you will come to the present day Mt. > Olive Church. This is just a dirt and gravel road. Across from the present > Mt. Olive Church is the Quaker/Mt. Olive Cemetery. The old cemetery adj to > the original Mt. Olive Church contains many of my ancestors, the Corders and > Coles. There are also Woodfords, Talbotts,Bartletts, and Galls buried there. > > In 1838 the Mt. Olive Church split its membership. Some stayed with the old > church and some formed a new church. The original building was used by the > "old side" Baptists which took a "more primitive" view of their religion. > Pastor Joshua Corder was one of the leaders of this group. The "old side" > group did not favor the missionary movement sweeping the nation. I am not > sure where the "more liberal"...for lack of a better term, built their > church...perhaps the site of the present day Mt. Olive Church. > > The membership in the "old side" group that reformed in 1839 included the > following family names: Corder, Hudkins, Modisett, Proudfoot, Talbert, > Isnor, Ellison, Wells, Stevens, Cole, Robinson, Thompson, Murphy, Borde, > Nutter, Bailey, Read, Wight, Hathaway, Poe, Woods, Jefferies, Stout, > McVicker, Cool, Moral, Swick, Hamrick and Felton, and, some more. > > I got some information a few years ago that said the original log cabin > burned and a new church was built. I know the church was used as a stable > during the Civil War. Also, I found where a frame church also burned in 1884 > and a new poplar church was built in 1885. THE INFORMATION I HAVE CAME FROM > A LEDGER BELONGING TO THE OLD SIDE CHURCH. The dates on structures was on a > slip of paper in this ledger. I don't know if the 1884/85 comments refer to > the "oldside" group or the new group. > > I don't know how long the original Mt. Olive Church group carried on with > their services. It appears that both groups kept the name Mt. Olive. I have > seen a ledger from the "old side" group that ends in 1860, about the time the > Civil War was heating up. > > Not sure what your comment "not certain your interprtation is quite correct" > means. > The present Mt. Olive Cemetery (originally Old Quaker) does have alot of > older graves in the middle as I recall. And, there appears to be some areas > without markers that must hold graves. I don't see where we disagree..... I > just wish we knew who was buried there. > > But, the original Mt. Olive Church was built on Corder land. Somewhere in my > stuff I have info from the deed where William Corder gave the land to the > elders of the church. > > I have been told that the trustees for the present Mt. Olive Church have > ledgers kept on that church. I was told they were in a safe deposit box at > one of the Philippi Banks. I assume they might contain some good info but > wouldn't go back further than when the churches spit in 1838... > > Like I said Nick, I am glad you made your comments. Maybe someone on this > list will have some good information for us. > > Any comments appreciated.... > > Lyle Corder > > > >

--part1_b2.895b294.26b442a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Nick and Barbour Co Listers: Nick, I am forwarding your email to the Barbour list and my reply because I have long been interested in the number of Mt. Olive churches that were built and their locations. I am glad that you made your comments. First, let me tell you what I know and think: The first Mt. Olive Church was organized in 1817 and a log structure was built on land given by my g g g grandfather William Corder. It set on a small knoll on State Rt 119/4.. actually, this is on Hacker Creek...at the foot of the hill going down from A-B College, off US Rts 250/119, going North toward Pruntytown and Grafton. If you go up the hill from the original church site, about 1 mile southwest, you will come to the present day Mt. Olive Church. This is just a dirt and gravel road. Across from the present Mt. Olive Church is the Quaker/Mt. Olive Cemetery. The old cemetery adj to the original Mt. Olive Church contains many of my ancestors, the Corders and Coles. There are also Woodfords, Talbotts,Bartletts, and Galls buried there. In 1838 the Mt. Olive Church split its membership. Some stayed with the old church and some formed a new church. The original building was used by the "old side" Baptists which took a "more primitive" view of their religion. Pastor Joshua Corder was one of the leaders of this group. The "old side" group did not favor the missionary movement sweeping the nation. I am not sure where the "more liberal"...for lack of a better term, built their church...perhaps the site of the present day Mt. Olive Church. The membership in the "old side" group that reformed in 1839 included the following family names: Corder, Hudkins, Modisett, Proudfoot, Talbert, Isnor, Ellison, Wells, Stevens, Cole, Robinson, Thompson, Murphy, Borde, Nutter, Bailey, Read, Wight, Hathaway, Poe, Woods, Jefferies, Stout, McVicker, Cool, Moral, Swick, Hamrick and Felton, and, some more. I got some information a few years ago that said the original log cabin burned and a new church was built. I know the church was used as a stable during the Civil War. Also, I found where a frame church also burned in 1884 and a new poplar church was built in 1885. THE INFORMATION I HAVE CAME FROM A LEDGER BELONGING TO THE OLD SIDE CHURCH. The dates on structures was on a slip of paper in this ledger. I don't know if the 1884/85 comments refer to the "oldside" group or the new group. I don't know how long the original Mt. Olive Church group carried on with their services. It appears that both groups kept the name Mt. Olive. I have seen a ledger from the "old side" group that ends in 1860, about the time the Civil War was heating up. Not sure what your comment "not certain your interprtation is quite correct" means. The present Mt. Olive Cemetery (originally Old Quaker) does have alot of older graves in the middle as I recall. And, there appears to be some areas without markers that must hold graves. I don't see where we disagree..... I just wish we knew who was buried there. But, the original Mt. Olive Church was built on Corder land. Somewhere in my stuff I have info from the deed where William Corder gave the land to the elders of the church. I have been told that the trustees for the present Mt. Olive Church have ledgers kept on that church. I was told they were in a safe deposit box at one of the Philippi Banks. I assume they might contain some good info but wouldn't go back further than when the churches spit in 1838... Like I said Nick, I am glad you made your comments. Maybe someone on this list will have some good information for us. Any comments appreciated.... Lyle Corder --part1_b2.895b294.26b442a8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:47:37 -0400 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.30]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:47:11 -0400 Received: from MSNNickSturm - 63.21.114.59 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:46:33 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Nicholas Sturm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Society of Friends Cemetery and the Mount Olive Cemetery Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:41:49 -0400 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not certain your interpretation is quite correct. When the local historical was active in the 1940s the general interpretation was that the old center section was the Cemetery of the early Society of Friends who settled in the area. Originally the Mount Olive Church was not located on the ridge, but at a site close to the road between Philippi and Webster. During the numerous splits of churches in accompaniment of the Civil War a second church was built on the ridge near the old cemtery and those attending the new church began using the area adjacent to the old burial area. That second church survives and the first was destroyed at some point and was never replaced. There are many burials in the old cemetery at the older church of the pair. There are likely some unknown burial sites in the old section as it was reported that the older usage had been forgotten and efforts to dig later for burials revealed the previous graves and an area was arbitrarily reserved to avoid conflicting usage, although few of the old field stones remained for any confident definition of the actual area already occupied. Certainly some of the later marked graves are likely those of descendants of the original settlers that were members of the Society of Friends. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Fwd: Society of Friends Cemetery and the Mount Olive Cemetery > > --part1_b2.88cbca8.26b32ce5_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --part1_b2.88cbca8.26b32ce5_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <[email protected]> > From: [email protected] > Full-name: Wvlyle > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:35:02 EDT > Subject: Re: Society of Friends Cemetery and the Mount Olive Cemetery > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 > > Hi Frankie: > > Yes, the Mt. Olive cemetery is the Society of Friends Cem. I have a listing > of whom is there and yes, there appears to me to be some unused spaces among > the earlier graves. I can't remember if the ground is sunk in there or not. > I have been to so many cemeteries. I think one of my missing ancestors, > Abraham Ingram is buried there. I don't think there is a listing of the > burials on line. Someone suggested it some time ago. Lyle Corder > > --part1_b2.88cbca8.26b32ce5_boundary-- > --part1_b2.895b294.26b442a8_boundary--

--part1_b2.88cbca8.26b32ce5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_b2.88cbca8.26b32ce5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Full-name: Wvlyle Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:35:02 EDT Subject: Re: Society of Friends Cemetery and the Mount Olive Cemetery To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Hi Frankie: Yes, the Mt. Olive cemetery is the Society of Friends Cem. I have a listing of whom is there and yes, there appears to me to be some unused spaces among the earlier graves. I can't remember if the ground is sunk in there or not. I have been to so many cemeteries. I think one of my missing ancestors, Abraham Ingram is buried there. I don't think there is a listing of the burials on line. Someone suggested it some time ago. Lyle Corder --part1_b2.88cbca8.26b32ce5_boundary--

There was a cemetery established in Barbour County in 1800 by Isaac Votaw. My ancestor, John Carlin, was a witness to the land transaction when Isaac Votaw bought a larger tract of land in April of 1800. On 15 September 1800, Isaac and his wife Ann deeded 10 acres (part of the land they bought in April of 1800) to the "Richland Meeting Inc." The members of this group were: Benjamin Yates, John Votaw, Zachariah Ellison, Moses Votaw, Preston Beck, and Isaac Votaw Jr. The land was sold for $ 10 for the purpose of establishing a meeting place and burial ground for the Society of Friends. The site was at the "corner to Samuel Talbott, Shooks Run-line of John P. Duvall." Since my ancestor, John Carlin, was a witness for Isaac in the earlier land transaction, it is possible that John might have been buried in the cemetery established by Mr. Votaw. I have three questions: 1. Does anyone know if the Mount Olive Cemetery is the same cemetery that was deeded by Isaac Votaw to the Richland Meeting Inc.? When my husband and I did research in the area last fall, I vaguely remember seeing a sign on the church that said "Society of Friends." 2. Are there any early graves in the Mount Olive Cemetery that are not recorded? 3. Are there any records of the Mount Olive Cemetery that are on the Internet? Frankie (Carlin) Meyer My E-mail is [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:07 AM Subject: Hymes > Looking for info on James R. Hymes b. abt 1897 Barbour Co. W.Va. and Oma I > Richard b. abt 1897 in Barbour Co. W.Va. they were m. 1917 in Junior Barbour > Co. W.Va. There son was William H. Hymes b. 2-15-1922 in Harrison Co. W.Va. > Thanks > Nancy > >