BaBa, There is no 1860 W. VA census since it didn't become a state until after the Civil War---about 1863? so 1860 census records are still for Virginia. Marilyn -----------------original message----------------- In a message dated 09/07/03 5:26:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vizsla2@aol.com writes: << Hi, May I have a lookup for a John R. STUCK and family in the 1860 Census? In 1870 they are in Vinton County, Ohio, but the kids were born in Virginia and West Virginia. They weren't found in the 1860 Virginia Census. I'll put what I know about them below. Thanks in advance! BaBa >>