Rebecca, The 1850 index at ancestry.com isn't showing any results for the SENCINDIVER or SINCINDIVER surname, but possibly this is Elisha in 1850? Sincendaffer, Elijah View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1850 County: Berkeley Roll: M432_936 Township: District 9 Page: 418 Image: 220 Elijah Sincendaffer, 39, Farmer, value of real estate: $5200, b. VA Mrs. " , 35, b. VA Lewis " , 16, b. VA, attended school Jerry Peterson, 34, black, Farmer, b. VA, cannot read or write Henry Rupee, 18, black, Farmer, b. VA Ann Johnson, 15, mulatto, b. VA Here's what I found for 1860: 1860 SENCINDIVER ELISHA 49 M W VA VA BERKELEY GERRARDSTOWN Series: M653 Roll: 1335 Page: 902 Elisha Sencindiver, 49, Farmer, value of real estate: $15,000, value of personal estate: $6345, b. VA Elizabeth, 46, b. VA SENCINDIVER LEWIS M 25 M W VA VA BERKELEY GERRARDSTOWN Series: M653 Roll: 1335 Page: 894 Lewis M. Sencindiver, 25, Physician, value of real estate: $8000, value of personal estate: $700, b. VA Mary, 19, b. VA Minnie, 1, b. VA Thomas, 4/12, b. VA Since you're looking for a Lewis that was not a physician, I checked the 1840 index for any other SENCINDIVER (and variant spellings) families other than George and Elisha. I found a whole list of them in Berkeley County. Possibly anyone of these could be Lewis the saddler's father? Sincendoffer, John View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 169 Image: 349 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sincindaffer, Elisha View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 174 Image: 359 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sincindaffer, Jacob View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 174 Image: 359 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Sincindaffer, Lewis View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 174 Image: 359 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sincindaffer, Martin View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 174 Image: 359 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sincindoffer, Elisha View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 174 Image: 359 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sincindoffer, Jacob View Image Online State: Virginia Year: 1840 County: Berkeley Roll: M704_551 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 174 Image: 359 Marilyn --------------------original message---------------------- In a message dated 10/02/03 2:25:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rebeccawhitmyer@myfamily.com writes: << Looking for LEWIS SENCINDIVER born abt 1835 not a physician but a sadler as a occupation & wife Mary. There is also a son Lewis born abt 1861. Most of this Sencindiver family were living in Martinsburg,Berkeley Co but I believe Lewis is listed with his uncle George SINCINDIVER in 1880 in Mill Creek, Berkeley Co. I am trying to locate this Lewis 1835 to determine his parent's names. I know this line & can't find clear data to prove who his parents were. It is my belief that his parents may have been Elisha Sencindiver & Elizabeth Lewis Sencindiver who reportedly had only 1 unknown child. Many thanks Rebecca _ >>