A lookup much appreciated for a Clifton Hoff household, possible three children, Phillip, Stella, Loleta. Spouse probably died by 1885? remarried Hannah Isner 1886 Taylor Co. had add'l children, known Della, Ethel. Clifton died Taylor Co 1920. Thx much Deb

Henry (Harry/Hary) CHAPMAN Age: between 15-25 Spouse: Octava (unknown if married in 1880) Oldest child born in 1883 Thanks Kim

Anyone have info on the Grant district in Wetzel County, WV??

Hello George, 1850 Marion Co., VA(WV) Census There is an Anderson Bell, 12 yrs old, b. VA, living in the household of 452-454 $900.00 (pg. 67) HAWKINS, Henry 28 Innkeeper Hannah 20 All born in VA. There are no other BELL's listed in the 1850 Marion Co. Census book, I have. Published by Marion County Genealogical Club, Inc., Compiled by Eleanor Carter and Kathleen Bogdan. Hope this helps Sincerely, Cindy Eagle Pettey ----- Original Message ----- From: george n bell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: [WVCEN] William Bell - - 1840 and 1850 Census - Marion, Harrison, Monongalia > Please find a William Bell married to Josina Anderson living in this area > between 1830 and 1850. Two sons: Anderson Bell and John Nelson Bell. > Thank you very kindly. > George Bell > > > ==== WV-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from digest mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Could someone lookup Walter Avis in the 1910 census. He moved to Charleston, WV in 1906. Jim

Please find a William Bell married to Josina Anderson living in this area between 1830 and 1850. Two sons: Anderson Bell and John Nelson Bell. Thank you very kindly. George Bell

Hello Roger, Found a Louisa BARNES, 17, b. VA in the household of 620-621 $150.00 (pg. 39) FANSHIRE, Daniel 34 Farmer Amy 43 Benjamin 11 Elizabeth 8 Adeline 5 Marion 3 All born in VA 1850 Census Marion Co., VA(WV), by Marion Co. Genealogical Club, Inc. Compiled by Eleanor Carter and Kathleen Bogdan. Could not find a Luther Wilkinson(s). Hope this helps Cindy Eagle Pettey ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Scott <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: [WVCEN] WV CENSUS LOOK UP MARION CO. BARNS > Could some one please ck 1840 thru 1850 for > Louisa BARNS > b]1833 > m] 1854 Luther WILKINSON b] 1830 Harrison Co. > > SON: > James WILKINSON b]1855 > > They might be in > 1860>1870 > as WILKINSONS > > [email protected] > ROGER SCOTT > ADDY,WA. > Researching: > SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK > SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX > WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL > OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more > > Researching for the future, > AND > Honoring the Past > > If You don't know History, > You don't know anything. > Your a leaf that doesn't > know it's part of the Tree. > > > ==== WV-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Remember, ONE request only per day! Please watch the subject line also: date/county/SURNAME THanks! Happy Hunting! > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I don't have 1840 or 1850 Census , but the only Wilkinson listed in the 1860 Marion Co., Census records is Post office Millfall , Village of Worthington 1783-1709 Hannah Rowand--68--750--124--Va Elizabeth Wilkinson--09--VA Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Scott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: [WVCEN] WV CENSUS LOOK UP MARION CO. BARNS > Could some one please ck 1840 thru 1850 for > Louisa BARNS > b]1833 > m] 1854 Luther WILKINSON b] 1830 Harrison Co. > > SON: > James WILKINSON b]1855 > > They might be in > 1860>1870 > as WILKINSONS > > [email protected] > ROGER SCOTT > ADDY,WA. > Researching: > SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK > SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX > WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL > OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more > > Researching for the future, > AND > Honoring the Past > > If You don't know History, > You don't know anything. > Your a leaf that doesn't > know it's part of the Tree. > > > ==== WV-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Remember, ONE request only per day! Please watch the subject line also: date/county/SURNAME THanks! Happy Hunting! > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Can some kind person lookup Fredrick Nay in the 1890 Harrison Co census in the Clay district.And tell me who all is listed in the family.Thank you very much. Appreciate any help or info. Staci

Thank You. Roger Scott Addy, WA. [email protected]

Could some one please ck 1840 thru 1850 for Louisa BARNS b]1833 m] 1854 Luther WILKINSON b] 1830 Harrison Co. SON: James WILKINSON b]1855 They might be in 1860>1870 as WILKINSONS [email protected] ROGER SCOTT ADDY,WA. Researching: SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more Researching for the future, AND Honoring the Past If You don't know History, You don't know anything. Your a leaf that doesn't know it's part of the Tree.

Could some on please ck the above census for: Joseph WILKINSON family. Joseph & Mary Joseph & Jane REID Joseph & Rachel SHINN Luther & Louisa BARNS TYIA [email protected] ROGER SCOTT ADDY,WA. Researching: SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more Researching for the future, AND Honoring the Past If You don't know History, You don't know anything. Your a leaf that doesn't know it's part of the Tree.

Dear List members, While I realize that there are problems with the images at Ancestry.com the benefits for me far out weigh the problems. For myself I can read these images far better than trying to read the microfilm at the library (for which I always ended up with a headache). Also there is NO Way for me to search images in another state without a lot of hassle and time spent. I was fortunate enough that people taught me how to use the Nora's ED archives along with maps that has enabled me to narrow the searches to a few Enumeration Districts rather that a whole town, city, or state. Has anyone tried looking for people in places like Cincinnati or New York. It can really turn out to be a nightmare. I also have the Genealogy.com's 1900 census index and own a few census indexes and I can tell you that there are many mistakes and missing people so you end up having to go through the census records page by page anyway. The indexes are great but just like everything else you have to allow for human error. As for their extremely poor support I think that seems to be the way Most support is getting to be these days. Every time I try to get help for any product or service it seem like I end up on a phone being switched from one computer to another. "Press 1 if you speak English", "Press 2 if you are a current subscriber", and so on and so forth. When and if you finally get a real person on the phone you have to wonder if they are all sharing the same book of pat answers instead of actually thinking. A while ago I spent literally All afternoon on the phone trying to get my grandmother's birth certificate. I got to speak to a real person one time and they just told me I had to contact someone else. Now I know why they had relatives lie about when and where she was born in order to get her buried. Never the less I an attaching the email that most helped me in my research of the census records. I sincerely hope it helps someone else. Take heart that if the attached does not help you some kind soul will. Happy Hunting, Donna ;) Hi, Donna -- Here's a great article by Juliana Smith on the subject. For myself, I hate bumbling around, so for the counties I spend the most time in, I'm doing a simple spreadsheet key with A.com section IDs, inclusive page#s, EDs, Natl Archives film #s, etc., so I can zero in on pages more easily. For the moment, I'm doing Buffalo and Marengo County Alabama. It takes a while, because you have to search to the first and last image of each A.com section to get the information. When I get done with Buffalo, I'll offer it on the list, and if others do the same with their favorite spots, then it will all be easier for everyone! The question arose after someone did a look-up for me. I've ordered my own 1880 set and am looking forward to receiving it. How long did it take to get yours? I only ordered last Friday! Hope this helps. . . . Elsa ===================================================================== "THE INS AND OUTS OF INDEXES," by Juliana Smith ===================================================================== Last week, the UPS man brought me a new genealogy toy, and of course, with the new toy, comes the "new-genealogy-toy-happy-dance." For those of you who aren't familiar with it, the "new-genealogy-toy- happy-dance" is similar to the "genealogy-happy-dance" that we do when we find something of significance in our family history. It is a bit more subdued, with a little less arm flailing, but a involves a lot of jumping up and down. Both dances are enough to send the UPS man running back to his truck at a much quicker than normal pace. (They just don't understand.) The package I received contained the new 1880 United States Census and National Index from FamilySearch. Created by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, this is currently the only nationwide index to the 1880 U.S. Federal Census. (There is a Soundex for 1880 that was created as part of the WPA in preparation for Social Security identification, but it only covered households that had children ten years old or younger. Households without children that fit in this age bracket, and individuals living alone were not included.) Thanks to some really lousy weather, I didn't even have to make up an excuse to not mow the lawn and do the other yard chores. "Grass is just too wet. I'll have to stay inside and check out my new toy. Oh, darn!" So there I sat, with Disk Four that covers the New York Metropolitan area firmly embedded in my CD drive, wildly plugging in name after name, and emitting the occasional triumphant shouts of glee as I found one after another of my ancestors. Although I had previously found a good number of my families in the 1880 Census Images Online using addresses, maps, and the enumeration district (ED) descriptions that accompany many of the Brooklyn Wards, I still had some families that I had either not yet found, or hadn't retrieved images for. As I set to work, some of the finds brought to mind many of the things we should remember when using any index. But my first obstacle to overcome was how to use this particular index to locate individuals in the Ancestry.com Images Online since it did not list the enumeration district. USING THE INDEX TO LOCATE IMAGES ONLINE One of my first searches was for Thomas Howley and family and I was quickly successful. Census Place: 1st Ward, Brooklyn, Kings, New York Source: FHL Film 1254840 National Archives Film T9-0840 Page 86A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thos. HOWLEY Self M M W 35 ENG Occ: Gas Pipe Maker Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Jane HOWLEY Wife F M W 48 IRE Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Mary HOWLEY Dau F S W 17 NY Occ: Coffee Packer Fa: ENG Mo: IRE Jane HOWLEY Dau F W 15 NY Occ: Coffee Packer Fa: ENG Mo: IRE Margaret HOWLEY Dau F S W 7 NY Occ: At School Fa: ENG Mo: IRE Thomas HOWLEY Son M S W 5 NY Occ: At School Fa: ENG Mo: IRE OK, I have the basics here, but how do I find the Census Image without the ED? Well, my first step was to visit the National Archives Census Microfilm Catalog at: http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/census.html Choosing "1790-1890 Federal Population Censuses," I then selected the link to the 1880 Census and scrolled down to New York. The FamilySearch index above lists the National Archives Film that the Howleys should appear on as: T9-0840 Page 86A. T9 is the catalog number for the entire 1880 U.S. Federal Census and as I scrolled down to New York in the NARA catalog, I located the roll number 0840. The description is listed as: 840. Jefferson County (part: ED 148, sheet 47-end) and city of Brooklyn, wards 1 and 2 (part: EDs 1-12, sheet 42) Well, that narrows it down some, but we also have a page number--Page 86A. This is not the same as the sheet number that is written, but rather a stamped number that is found on the pages for that roll of microfilm. This stamped number also shows up in the digitized Images Online. I quickly brought up Kings County, and started looking around. I tried the 4th ED first and noted that it began with 57A. I skipped to the last image by changing the image number from "1 of 45" to "45 of 45" and clicking "Go to Image." The last image was 79A. Close! I clicked on the 5th Ward and made a guesstimate or two as to the location and within a few minutes I had located them on image 13. I'm having some real fun now! Last week we talked about putting a little meat on the bones of our ancestors using information found in "those other columns." (http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/compass/3982.asp) Thomas's entry gave us a little example of that. I like to use the downloaded Census Extraction forms (http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/census.htm) and fill them in with the information I find in the census entries. I keep these in the sleeve with the actual image and find that for quick reference, my reading is easier to read than the census takers (well, at least most of the time!). As I transcribed the Howley entry, I noted that Thomas had been unemployed for three months in that Census year. In those days, there was no unemployment insurance and we can surmise that being out of work for that period of time put a definite strain on the family budget. DON'T GIVE UP IF YOU DON'T LOCATE IT IN THE INDEX Moving on with some confidence, I decided to look for my great-great- grandmother, Emma. I knew by this time she had married her second husband, Emil Chouanniere and that they were in Brooklyn. Several searches for Chouanniere and several variants didn't turn up anything in the FamilySearch index, so using an address I had for them at 154 Nelson, I checked an 1891 map that showed Nelson near 12th Ward Park. What a nice clue! Skipping ahead in the Images Online to the 12th Ward and using the descriptions of the districts, I located the family in ED 102, with Emma's daughter, Emma listed as a niece and bearing her mother's maiden name--Emma Tobin. (Hmm, it could really be a niece, or it could be a family scandal--but that's a story for another day.) Going back to the index, I plugged in Emma Tobin and located her entry, with the Chouannieres who were listed as Chouamnere, which explains why I couldn't find it using the index. (You'd think with a name like that the enumerator would have asked them to spell it.) LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION After locating my Emmas, I decided to really get brave. Yes, I searched for name that could strike fear into the heart of even the most seasoned genealogist--Elizabeth Kelly. I did the search which came up with 146 hits. Ouch. But since I thought her to be the sister of my third great-grandmother, I could narrow this down by year of birth to somewhere around the 1820s. There were only five that were listed with a birth date in the 1820s so I clicked on the entries to see who was listed with them. One of the entries was for an Elizabeth Kelly that appeared to be living in some kind of boarding house or institution. Since I knew that my Elizabeth died a few years later, and the entry before hers was for a nurse, I thought at first maybe she was in a hospital. But as I scrolled down the list of occupations, I saw a number of them listed as "clerk in hotel," "steward," "hotel carpenter," etc. Since the index did not give the name of the institution, off I went to the Images Online again. I located the entry (although her entry was on the page following the one that was listed in the index), and as it turned out she was a resident of a hotel on Madison Avenue in New York City. Pretty snazzy digs. I still didn't know if this was our Elizabeth though, until I noted the girl listed just under her entry- -Kate Doherty. That sounded really familiar. I paged through some notes on related families and voila. I found a K. Doherty listed as a witness in a family wedding. In addition, a note from an aunt stated that K. Doherty, the witness in her mother's marriage was a cousin, Katherine Doherty. Time for a quick break now to do the "genealogy happy dance." Another family member, Ann Eliza Tobin, that I located in a similar manner, turned up as a Sister of Charity at the Academy of Mount Saint Vincent. There was no indication of the name of the institution on the index, only Sister of Charity listed as the occupation. These findings really underscored the need to not just rely on indexes, and follow up in the original records. IN CLOSING I now have a number of new leads to pursue and am anxious to follow up with other records. My husband sat wondering how I could get so excited working on this, when I spend eight-plus hours a day immersed in genealogy. But I couldn't help but be satisfied with my exploits on this rainy Saturday. I almost hope it rains again next weekend! MORE INFORMATION: "1880 United States Census on CD-ROM," by Dick Eastman (Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, 31 May 2001) http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/3963.asp "Printed Sources: A Guide to Published Genealogical Records," edited by Kory Meyerink http://shops.ancestry.com/product.asp?productid=1023 (There is an excellent chapter on "Censuses and Tax Lists" by G. David Dilts in this book, that talks about what indexes are available, their strengths and weaknesses, and how to overcome some of the weaknesses. It also contains a "Phonetic Substitutes Table" and "Frequently Misread Letters" table, both of which are very helpful when looking for misspelled names. "Printed Sources" is on sale today in The Shops @ Ancestry.com for only $39.95.) FamilySearch 1880 United States Census and National Index http://www.familysearch.org Ancestry.com Images Online http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?Targetid=699&sourceid=940 ____________________________________________________________________ Juliana Smith is the editor of the "Ancestry Daily News" and author of "The Ancestry Family Historian's Address Book." She has written for "Ancestry" Magazine and "Genealogical Computing." Juliana can be reached by e-mail at: mailto:[email protected], but regrets that she is unable to assist with personal research. An archive of her Monday columns, "The Family History Compass," are available on the Ancestry.com site at: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/compass/d_p_1_archive.asp

Hello, Is there anyone out there who can give me the family of Lester CLINEBELL? I am looking for him in the 1920 Census of Greenbrier County, WV. He should be abt. 9 years old in that Census. I am particularly interested in dates of birth (abt.), and other siblings, as well as his parents or any other info. that might be listed with him. Thanks so much!!! Gina <><

I made a mistake in an earlier e-mail. I named Robert H. Collins' wife as Mary (possibly Polly or Pauline). That is his mother not his wife. I am looking for Robert and his wife Sarah Lunsford Collins in the 1910 and 1920 Lincoln Co. Census. Thanks , Monica

Well I have tried Logan, Boone, and Kanawha Counties so hopefully this will be the right county. I am looking for a Robert H. Collins and wife Mary (possibly Polly or Pauline) In the 1910 Lincoln Co. census they might have a daughter named Aretha. She die at the age of two, so I am not sure if she will be in it. In the 1920 census they should have 3 children with them. Charlie, Archie and Roy. Thanks for your help Monica Collins

Denise. I have a Charles B. Shisler, listed under veterans, in Company A, Sixth West Virginia Calvary. "Recruited at Morgantown and originally organized as Company A, 3d West Virginia Infantry" If you would like more info, just e-mail me. I'm getting this from "The History of Monongalia County". Remembered the name because I am researching the SISLER line! Judy

Hello! I am looking for a Jacob SHISLER and wife Elizabeth in the 1860 census for Monongalia county, probably Morgantown. They were married in 1843 and Elizabeth was born around 1813. I would appreciate any information. Thank you for your time, Denise

Could someone kindly check the 1880 Census for Marshall County, WV for Hugh and Margaret (Brown) Burton. Also, their son, William Burton born 1863. Thanks! Mary

Hello fellow researchers: Could some kind person please lookup the following? ==================================== 1860 WILKINSON JOSEPH E. Harrison County WV 745 Clarksburg P.O. Federal Population Schedule WV 1860 Federal Census Index WV45190604 1860 WILKINSON JOSEPH Harrison County WV 1006 Clarksburg P.O. Federal Population Schedule WV 1860 Federal Census Index WV45190603 1870 WILKINSON RACHEL Harrison County WV 105 Clay Township Federal Population Schedule WV 1870 Federal Census Index WV569102943 TYIA, [email protected] ROGER SCOTT ADDY,WA. Researching: SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more Researching for the future, AND Honoring the Past If You don't know History, You don't know anything. Your a leaf that doesn't know it's part of the Tree.