This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, Dian, it would appear that Helen Bedortha Wright's father. Albert Allen Wright, was, in fact, a 10th cousin to Orville and Wilbur Wright, which makes Helen a 10th cousin once removed. I have attached a pdf file of the spreadsheet showing this relationship. This assumes that the lineages for your connection to Capt. John Wright/Alpheus (Alpha) Wright are correct. Turns out great grandma wasn't pulling anyone's leg. I bet she didn't know how she was related, since no one had known for sure about Dea. Samuel Wright's English ancestry until recently, but turns out she appears to have been correct. If you have any interest in the Kelvedon Hatch Wright lineage, the Wright-DNA project co-administrator, Jeff Wright, has put together a descendant's chart of the 20 some Y-DNA project participants who match those of us with documented descendancy from Deacon Samuel Wright or Thomas Wright of Wethersfield. The chart can be found by going to the web site .wright-dna.org and clicking on the "all other results" button in the upper left hand corner of the web page. That will take you to the Y-DNA profiles where you can scroll down to the E1b1b1a2 haploid labeled "Kelvedon Hatch Wrights" Under the 'Earliest Known Ancestor' column to the left of the Y-DNA values, click on one of the 'Samuel 1665' links. One takes you to Jeff Wright's web page and the other link takes you to the lineage chart. If you ever wanted to prove that Albert Allen Wright was a Kelvedon Hatch Wright, you would need to find a male descendant of one of his sons who is willing to have his Y-DNA tested. If that descendant's profile comes back as haploid E1b1b1a2, then the chances that Albert Allen was not a Kelvedon Hatch Wright are extremely slim. We cannot develop genetic proof through any of the descendants of Helen Wright because women do not carry the Y-DNA chromosomes so Albert's Y-DNA would not have been inherited by Helen. So let me give you a little deep history information on this Wright family connection you may also find interesting. If all the above is true, then it is still true that you are a descendant of a Dardanian barbarian who was sent to England in the first century by the Romans. From the Roman records of auxilary units raised in Dardania it would appear that this 'barbarian' was most likely transported to England from Gaul and served the Roman Army as a mercenary soldier skilled in calvary warfare. Between 50 B.C. and 49 C.E., the Dardanians had impressed the Romans with their fighting skill on horseback with lance and sword over rough terrain. The Romans had a long and biter struggle to subdue the Dardanians in the Dardanian's native mountain homeland that gives rise to the Drim River valley and is located in what is now Western Kosovo. The Dardanians were the last of the Illyrian-Thracian tribes the Romans had to subdue in order to create the first century province of Moesia Superior. Almost immediately after defeating the Dardanians in 49 C.E., the Romans began exacting tribute from th! e tribe in the form of gold, silver, tin and young, able bodied men to serve in the Roman Army's auxillia. One such Legion with a large contingent of Dardanians was Legos XX. Legos XX, when it was first created, was sent to Gaul to put down the German tribe uprisings. Following the successful conquest of Gaul, Legos XX was tapped to join Claudius in his invasion of England in 43 C.E. It is likely that our Dardanian ancestor joined Legos XX as a reinforcement soldier while it was already engaged in the fighting in England to subdue the tribes of southern England. Following the establishment of control of Southern and Eastern England, this ancestor was stationed in Londinum (London) when the Iceni revolted in 62 C.E. and was probably a seasoned veteran of the Roman Army when he was called on to help subdue the Iceni uprising. During the early days of the Iceni uprising those members of Legos XX who had been retired from the Army and put in charge of creating the first Rom! an 'Colonia' in England near what is now Colchester, county Essex, had been brutally wiped out by the Iceni and their allies and the colonia villiage largely destroyed. After the uprising was put down, another group of Legos XX mercenary soldiers who had served 20 to 25 years in the Army were retired and told to go to the Colchester 'colonia' and reestablish it for good. These veteran soldiers were each given full Roman citizenship and a small estate of their own within the colonia that was large enough to support a family. In addition the Roman governor of Britannia provided funds and military support for their efforts to rebuild the colony bigger and better than ever. 1400 years later, not 30 miles away from the site of this first Roman Colonia, our first documented Kelvedon Hatch Wright ancestor emerges as John Wright into written history as one of the members of what was then the emerging middle class of landed gentry who were neither Nobles nor simple yeomen, but well-to-do landed gentlemen with a growing voice in the running of the ki! ngdom. Exactly what John Wright's role was in facilitating the accension of Henry VIII is not recorded, but that John Wright prospered enormously under Henry's rule shows that he was someone the King had turned to for support and later found ways to generously reward John Wright for that support. Nowhere is that more apparent than in John Wright's last will and testament where he bequeaths no fewer than 9 major estates to his four sons. He was clearly a man of great land wealth. However, there is no evidence that John Wright was ever called to Parliment by Henry or knighted, and although John Wright seems to have been possessed of arms and crest, that healdric possession, in itself, did not entitle him to use any honorific titles such as 'Sir' or 'Lord'. He is described only as a 'yoeman of Sir Rich' in the documents concerning his purchase in 1538 of the tenancy of the manor and estate of Kelvedon Hall from Sir Rich, Lord of the Ongar Hundred. All the publications you ! see that name him 'Sir John Wright' or 'Lord John Wright' are the exce sses of early 20th century authors of genealogical works. These authors clearly did not properly understand the hearldric traditions of England and were, by and large, overly eager to link their lineages to some English Peerage, however thin the justification might be. He was just Mr. John Wright, gent. in the records and in my mind that pretty much confirms he had no rights to any sort of honorific beyond "lord of the Manor of Kelvedon Hall" which is strictly a local turn of phrase used in a community to refer to the gentlemen who owned the major estates in their community. Big fish in a little pond, as it were. Anyway that is a little background on your Wright ancestry. Best Regards, Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.