This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelCharlesWight Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/15400.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, There are a number of us descended from the so called Kelvedon Hatch Wright line, which, according to Mordant and other sources, takes its recorded beginnings with Henry Wright and wife Anna Whitebread (the Whitebread family can be tracked backward another three generations). Prior to 1509, there is very limited document type information available on Henry's sons and grandsons and we have found a number of things reported incorrectly for this period in the family history by genealogists of the late 19th and early 20th century. My line goes from Henry to Rev. John of Upminster, Co. Essex, to John Wright of Havering/Kelvedon Hatch (1488 - 1551; arms granted 1509 by Henry VIII). It is beginning with this John Wright that we know a great deal about this Kelvedon Hatch family from existent records. We know all of his children and approximately when they were born and whom they married and what they inherited. I and several other subscribers to this forum and the Rootsweb Wright-List, descend from the second of his three sons named John (generally referred to as Myddle John). Myddle John inherited a number of properties, but chief among them was an estate referred to as Wrightsbridge on the West edge of the South Weald parish where the "high road" crossed the Ingreborne River. The estate consisted of a tannery and mill on the river, a country mansion and various outbuildings about the mansion typical of the 1500s country estate and approximately 660 acres of land. There, Myddle John had a first bor! n son born in 1546 who he named John and who inherited this estate from his father when still a small boy. In time this small boy grew to manhood and married Elizabeth Lindsell in 1568. In 1569 John and Elizabeth had a son who they also named John and who was most likely the father of the New England immigrant, Deacon Samuel Wright of Spingfield and Northampton. In 1571 a second son, Samuel was born, but who died without issue in 1606 the year Deacon Samuel Wright was born. In 1581 a third son, Nathaniel, was born (spoken of by Jean as the father of Deacon Samuel Wright). In 1584 Elizabeth died and John remarried in 1589 to Bennett Greene and had by her, Laurence, Bennett and William. In 1590 John, then lord of the manor of Wrightsbridge had his families' grant of arms confirmed by Elizabeth (June 20 1590). Our John Wright ancestor born in 1569 to Lord John Wright and Elizabeth Lindsell entered Emmanuel College, Cambridge University in 1583 as a member of that college's second class. This college of Cambridge University had been specially created for the purpose of training protestant ministers of the puritan persuasion, but John Wright did not pursue the ministry but entered into the practice of law under the tutelage of the preceptors of the Grays Inn chamber of the King's Court. In 1599, the year his youngest step-brother, William, was born to Lord John and Dame Bennett (nee Greene) Wright, he married Martha Castell and in 1600 his first son was born whom he named John in keeping with family tradition. A second son, Nathaniel, was born in 1604 and in 1606 the third son, our ancestor Samuel (named after his recently deceased uncle Samuel) was born. Between 1585 and 1512 John Wright developed a reputation as an able London barrister and in 1612 he was elected to the post of ! Clerk of the House of Commons, a post he held until age and infirmity dictated in 1639 that he pass the post on to his son, the aforementioned John Wright born in 1600. In 1624 we find Samuel, born 1606, following in his father's footsteps and matriculating to Emmanuel College, Cambridge University. In about the same period we find Samuel, son of Nathaniel Wright and Lydia James, involved in the woolen goods trading company with his father and in 1644 we find this same Samuel matriculating as a 29 year old man to Emmanuel College. From here we can follow Nathaniel's son, Samuel, in ecclesiastical records as he moves from living to living during the Commonwealth years and again we find him matriculating to Oxford University and taking his DD degree in 1662. He died in England and is buried in the parish he was ministering to and never went to New England as many have supposed. A good beginner's reference to this Wright family is the 1915 publication by Curtis Wright called "Genealogical and Biographical Notices of Descendants of Sir John Wright of Kelvedon Hall, Essex, England; in America, Thomas Wright, of Wethersfield, Conn. & Dea. Samuel Wright, of Northampton, Mass. Publ. Carthage, MO. This book has been reprinted and is available from a number of on-line genealogical book sellers. In it the Nathaniel Wright/Lydia James hypothesis for parentage of Deacon Samuel Wright was put forward along with much discussion of the difficulties of this assignment. It is too bad that Curtis did not have access to University and ecclesiastical records and histories the way we do now or he might have been able to solve this problem to his full satisfaction. Incidentally, the Y-DNA profile of almost a dozen descendants of Deacon Samuel Wright (and thereby presumably of John Wright (1488 - 1551)) are posted under the E3b profile of results at Wright-DNA.org. If you know of a male relative descended from the brother of Rev. John Wright, (uncle of our John Wright ancestor)that would be an additional branching of the Y-DNA that predates anything we currently have in the Y-DNA database for this family, and we would want to try to pursuade that descentant to join us in participating in the testing program to define our haplogroup well enough to start seeing the family branching out from antiquity. Hope that gives you good food for thought in sorting out the lineage back to Henry and Anna. Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.