This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelCharlesWight Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/15400.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Herb. Thank you for reminding us of your time researching the Kelvedon Hatch Wright family for Richard Wright ancestors. That was truly an analogous exercise to that of Abel Wright descendants trying to connect to Kelvedon Hatch. I do recall from previous correspondence that you had been to the Kelvedon Hatch estate and to the Mary Green Manor Inn on Brookstreet long before I discovered I was descended from this Wright family. I had forgotten it was in the 80's! The last time my wife and I visited Kelvedon Hall and took pictures was 2003 and it is still a splendid country manor home. They keep the old church site next to the house cleaned up, but it has been in ruins for so long that there isn't much they can do beyond sweeping it out and cutting the weeds. Tearing it down or rebuilding it is, apparently, unthinkable. That same year we also went to visit Old McDonald's Farm, which is a day-trip theme park that had recently opened and occupied a portion of the original Wrightsbridge estate. On the other side of the river is a golf course that has used the rest of the Wrightsbridge estate for a clubhouse and operations center and including neighboring estates for the course. I would have loved to have seen what these areas looked like in the 80's. Then close by the golf course is Dagenham Park, which is all that is left of the Dagenham estate the very early Wrights called home. We have sort of wandered all over that part of the county looking at church records and land records trying to pinpoint where John Wright, Esq. (1569-1644) may have lived and worked when he was not in London and who some of the other Wrights in the area were for whom we are a little unsure of lineage connections. It is pretty country in the summer but it is also sort of sad to realize developments in the area are now of such a scale that the landscape which has endured since the 17th century is slowly being completely obliterated in the name of progress. I am glad to have had the opportunity to see some of it before it is all turned into townhouses, but wish I could have been along with you during your visits there 20 years earlier. There are already some townhouses I was pretty sure had not been there 5 years before our visit. Even though I am not descended from the Robert Wright side of this family, every time we go to Essex we try to stop by the Mary Green Manor Inn at least for a meal if not a stay. The reason we do that is we usually set up shop in a small B&B near the rail station in Brentwood whenever we are working in that part of the county. From the B&B it is only a few minutes drive to the Mary Green, 10 minutes to the Dagenham Park Wrightsbridge area and maybe 15 minutes to Kelvedon Hatch, and from there it is also easy to get to the Romford library or any of the libraries and records offices in London or Colchester by train. Over the last 8 years or so we have made about a dozen trips centered from this same B&B. Our next trip will be this August for two weeks, but we probably will not get to spend much time in Essex, so probably will not get by to see those places this time. We are on a hunt for a particular parish register in another part of the country and also trying to set up meetings with some Wright men whose Y-DNA would be of great value to the Wright-DNA project. I am hoping to recruit them to that effort. >From what I hear about the work on Richard Wright Sr. you are looking to Maryland immigrants as possible origins for him now that the Y-DNA database shows clearly he cannot be a Kelvedon Hatch Wright? I seem to recall you had rejected the Kelveon Hatch hypothesis years before there was DNA evidence to back you up and had already tried to find Maryland ancestors. Hope that effort is going well. There are some eager new researchers involved in that now I hear. Unfortunately for Donna, the Abel Wright descendants are still facing the question of whether or not they are Kelvedon Hatch Wrights. If she can find an all male line descendant among her relatives who would be willing to submit a DNA sample, it would be another breakthrough, al la Richard Wright Sr., in the struggle to figure out where Lt. Abel came from before Springfield, MA. Best Regards, Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

thanx for the note. i always enjoy my time over there. we became good friends with Anne and Roy Hinds of Rickmansworth, owners of Hinds jewelry stores. they were kind enough to show us around. Even though I am not actively tracking the New England Wrights, I have included what i did on my website. If you see any glaring errors, let me know Havent had any luck getting any Philbert Wright maryland descendents for DNA testing even thought im willing to pay for it. herb. At 01:46 PM 5/15/2008, you wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: MichaelCharlesWight >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/15400.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Hi Herb. Thank you for reminding us of your time researching the >Kelvedon Hatch Wright family for Richard Wright ancestors. That was >truly an analogous exercise to that of Abel Wright descendants >trying to connect to Kelvedon Hatch. I do recall from previous >correspondence that you had been to the Kelvedon Hatch estate and to >the Mary Green Manor Inn on Brookstreet long before I discovered I >was descended from this Wright family. I had forgotten it was in the 80's! > >The last time my wife and I visited Kelvedon Hall and took pictures >was 2003 and it is still a splendid country manor home. They keep >the old church site next to the house cleaned up, but it has been in >ruins for so long that there isn't much they can do beyond sweeping >it out and cutting the weeds. Tearing it down or rebuilding it is, >apparently, unthinkable. > >That same year we also went to visit Old McDonald's Farm, which is a >day-trip theme park that had recently opened and occupied a portion >of the original Wrightsbridge estate. On the other side of the >river is a golf course that has used the rest of the Wrightsbridge >estate for a clubhouse and operations center and including >neighboring estates for the course. I would have loved to have seen >what these areas looked like in the 80's. Then close by the golf >course is Dagenham Park, which is all that is left of the Dagenham >estate the very early Wrights called home. > >We have sort of wandered all over that part of the county looking at >church records and land records trying to pinpoint where John >Wright, Esq. (1569-1644) may have lived and worked when he was not >in London and who some of the other Wrights in the area were for >whom we are a little unsure of lineage connections. It is pretty >country in the summer but it is also sort of sad to realize >developments in the area are now of such a scale that the landscape >which has endured since the 17th century is slowly being completely >obliterated in the name of progress. I am glad to have had the >opportunity to see some of it before it is all turned into >townhouses, but wish I could have been along with you during your >visits there 20 years earlier. There are already some townhouses I >was pretty sure had not been there 5 years before our visit. > >Even though I am not descended from the Robert Wright side of this >family, every time we go to Essex we try to stop by the Mary Green >Manor Inn at least for a meal if not a stay. The reason we do that >is we usually set up shop in a small B&B near the rail station in >Brentwood whenever we are working in that part of the county. From >the B&B it is only a few minutes drive to the Mary Green, 10 minutes >to the Dagenham Park Wrightsbridge area and maybe 15 minutes to >Kelvedon Hatch, and from there it is also easy to get to the Romford >library or any of the libraries and records offices in London or >Colchester by train. Over the last 8 years or so we have made about >a dozen trips centered from this same B&B. > >Our next trip will be this August for two weeks, but we probably >will not get to spend much time in Essex, so probably will not get >by to see those places this time. We are on a hunt for a particular >parish register in another part of the country and also trying to >set up meetings with some Wright men whose Y-DNA would be of great >value to the Wright-DNA project. I am hoping to recruit them to that effort. > > From what I hear about the work on Richard Wright Sr. you are > looking to Maryland immigrants as possible origins for him now that > the Y-DNA database shows clearly he cannot be a Kelvedon Hatch > Wright? I seem to recall you had rejected the Kelveon Hatch > hypothesis years before there was DNA evidence to back you up and > had already tried to find Maryland ancestors. Hope that effort is > going well. There are some eager new researchers involved in that now I hear. > >Unfortunately for Donna, the Abel Wright descendants are still >facing the question of whether or not they are Kelvedon Hatch >Wrights. If she can find an all male line descendant among her >relatives who would be willing to submit a DNA sample, it would be >another breakthrough, al la Richard Wright Sr., in the struggle to >figure out where Lt. Abel came from before Springfield, MA. > > >Best Regards, >Mike Wright Herb Arkin 92,000 Descendants and relatives of Richard Wright, Sr. of Rowan County, North Carolina who emigrated to Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas and Missouri. Web page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin