Hi Richard Wright Researchers, I think you all will all be interested to learn that we have now obtained Y-DNA results for our first proven male line descendant of Thomas Wright of Wethersfield, CT, the already proven?immigrant ancestor of Daniel Wright (1674-1764) husband to Eleanor Benton of Wethersfield, CT.? This?Daniel Wright has?oft-times?been proposed as the father of Richard?Wright Sr. of Rowan County, NC.? These fresh Y-DNA results show without a shred of doubt that Richard Wright, Sr.?of Rowan County, NC is not the same man as Richard Wright,?the son of Daniel Wright and Eleanor Benton.? These DNA data can be viewed at the Wright-DNA.org web site.? The male descendant of Wethersfield tested?out as belonging to?an entirely different haploid group (related closely?to Deacon Samuel Wright of Springfield/Northampton, MA) from the R1b1 haploid group?results for the?three Richard Wright Sr. descendants for whom we have Y-DNA data.? This means it is likely that?Richard Wright, Sr.'s?English ancestors?didn't even come from the same region of England as the Wrights of Wethersfield (West county Essex) and were not even of the same European stock.??Richard Wright Sr.'s parents?could have been Welsh, Scottish or Londoners, but almost certainly were not from East Anglia, England, though we still?need Y-DNA results from proven male?descendants of Peter, Anthony or Nicholas Wright of Long Island (descendants of the Kilverstone Wrights of Co. Norfolk)?before we can?say categorically?that Richard Wright was not likely from East Anglia, England.? Where he was from we still do not know. However, these DNA data, in my mind, lay to rest for all time any notion that Richard Wright Sr. of Rowan Co., NC was born in Connecticut to Daniel and Eleanor (nee Benton) Wright.? Unfortunately, it does not help us take any steps toward a better understanding of who?his parents?were and where?he came from than we had before.? But I am thinking this is a problem that might be solved best by Y-DNA testing of some willing Wright surname male candidates in Wales, the North counties, Scotland and Ireland as a way of?getting a better map of the?Wright?genetic landscape of England.? We would want men whose families have been pretty much in the same general part of?England for 10 or more generations or who know their ancestry well enough to know where their families originated back to about the 1500's.?? A recruiting and DNA testing program focused?on English?men of Wright surname?would?eventually bust through this brick wall?for Richard Wright researchers by pin-pointing a region of England from whence the R1B1 haploid group?is most likely to have come.??Once that was known, a more thorough search of local/regional records would become a more doable task that might reveal what you have all yearned to know for years.? Who was Richard Wright Sr.?!! My hope is this news and these new DNA data will begin to turn the tide in the speculation that this line of NC Wrights were originally from CT.? Genetics says it isn't possible. Respectfully, Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: herbert arkin <harkin@cfl.rr.com> To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; wright@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] Herbert ARKIN go to the link and you will see! At 04:00 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote: >Cite your source for your statement with out sourcing it is only a guess. >Bud. > >-----Original Message----- >From: wright-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wright-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of herbert arkin >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:29 PM >To: wright@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] Richard Wright, Sr. and Richard Wright, Jr. > >PLEASE CORRECT THIS:: > >Daniel Wright and Eleanor Benton are NOT the parents of Richard Wright, Sr. > >see: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin/parents_of_richard_wright >.htm > >thanx > > >At 12:41 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote: > >Hello All, > > > >These I think are my ancestors. So here it goes. > > > >This is what I have. I more than know it still needs lots of sourcing. >Input > >is good. If I am wrong, or this needs corrections please tell me and the > >list. > > > > > >Husband Richard Wright > >Born Abt 1720-1730 Weathersfield, Hartford, Connecticut Colony > >Died 3 Sep 1784 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Buried Joppa Cemetery > > > >Father Daniel Wright (1674-1764) Mother Eleanor Benton (1674-1749) > > > >Marriage 1748 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Other Spouse Abigail Wigerly (Abt 1732-1785) 1748 - , Rowan, North >Carolina, > >United States > > > >Wife Elizabeth Jane Morgan > >Born Abt 1732 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died 1785 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > > > > > >Children > > > >Benjamin Wright > >Born 1752 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died 3 Oct 1837 or 1842 Trader's Point, Marion, Indiana, United States > >Spouse Barbara Morgan ( -) > > > >Peter Wright > >Born 1754 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died Oct 1821 , Harrison, Indiana, United States > > > >Richard Wright > >Born 1757 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died 12 May 1833 , Davidson, North Carolina, United States > >Spouse Nancy Morgan ( -) 1780 - , , North Carolina, United States > > > >John Wright > >Born 5 Dec 1759 , , North Carolina, United States > >Died 4 Oct 1844 , Washington, Indiana, United States > >Spouse Nancy Gilstrap ( -) > > > >William R Wright > >Born 25 Mar 1761 , Rowan, Or Guilford, , North Carolina, United States > >Died Bef Sep 1838 , Washington, Indiana, United States > >Buried , Washington, Indiana, United States > >Wright Family Cemetery, Indiania, United States > >Spouse Martha Betsy Morgan (1768-) 1787 - Guilford, North Carolina, United > >States > > > >Evans C Wright > >Born Jan 1762 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died 10 Feb 1846 Bevier, Macon, Missouri, United States > >Buried Bevier, Macon, Missouri, United States > >Banta Cemetery, Missouri, United States > >Spouse Rebecca Summers (1774-1865) 1793 - , Wayne, Kentucky, United States > > > >Amos Wright > >Born 2 Mar 1764 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died 14 Oct 1846 , Washington, Indiana, United States > >Buried Washington, Washington, Indiana, United States > >Old Mill Creek Cemetery, Indiana, United States > >Spouse > > > >Philbert Wright > >Born 29 Mar 1768 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States > >Died 31 Jul 1855 , Washington, Indiana, United States > > > >Research Notes > >DAR file > >Research Notes (Wife) > >possible daughter of James Morgan born 1732 > >possible second wife Ann Isom > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: wright-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wright-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > >Behalf Of Susan J Avery > >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:39 AM > >To: wright@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] Richard Wright, Sr. and Richard Wright, Jr. > > > >These Wrights are actually not mine, although at one time I thought they > >were - they were definitely here in NC - I wanted to let you know however > >that the area that is now Davidson Co. and became Davidson Co. in 1823 > >WAS Rowan Co. NC before that - so they did not move - the county changed > >and they stayed in the same place. > > > >Susan Avery > > > >On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:53:20 -0000 "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" > ><gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> writes: > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Author: gragg021 > > > Surnames: > > > Classification: queries > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/8086.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Donna - hello. I get the Wright messages now that I'm on the > > > mailing list. Do you know of a Richard Wright,Sr. (and Jr.) of > > > Rowan County, NC? Jr. later moved to Davidson Co., NC > > > > > > Through a land sale deed, I recently became aware of my Wright > > > heritage, being the Great-granddaughter of Mary Ann Wright (Varker) > > > AND her 23 siblings, Richard, Jr.'s children by his second wife, > > > Cary Kittrell (believed to be of Davidson Co., although it seems the > > > Kittrell family is more to the eastern side of NC). > > > > > > Richard married 1:Mary (or Jane) Morgan in 1780; d. abt 1798. Had > > > 12 children (includes 1 set of twins): > > > Sarah > > > Amos > > > Delilah > > > Jane Caroline > > > Cory > > > Gizzeal > > > Reuben > > > Isaiah > > > Elijah > > > Nancy > > > Isom > > > Susannah > > > > > > Married 2: Cary (M. 1798). Children are: > > > Clayton > > > Ruth (married Jesse Gallimore, Esq.) > > > Celia (m. Snider) > > > Nelson > > > Silas > > > Burges(s) > > > Mary Ann (my GGM) > > > Micajah > > > Miles > > > Ailsy > > > > > > It is known from an article about Ruth Wright Gallimore that her > > > mother, Cary, had 12 children; however, I can only account for 10. > > > > > > Some information on this Wright family was obtained from "Genealogy > > > of the Wright Family" by Lillie White, Mar 1943), but I've found > > > through my own research, that some of the book is in error. > > > > > > Any additional information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Shirley > > > > > > Important Note: > > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If > > > you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board > > > URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Herb Arkin > >92,000 Descendants and relatives of Richard Wright, Sr. of Rowan >County, North Carolina who emigrated to Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, >Kansas and Missouri. Web page: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Herb & Carol Arkin Orlando, Florida ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with all you have said except for one section. It would be too easy to assume that only one line of Wrights originated from a particular area of England. The haplogroup does not elminate the possibility of several lines living within Essex or East Anglia. Since Wright is an occupation name and not a place name, it is very likely that there are 10, 20, or more lines from any particualar area. There is enough admixture of haplgroups in England and Northern Europe that it is unlikely they are geographically unique. Also, Richard Wright's haplogroup, R1b1, is the most common European halpgroup, so it is likely to be widely dispersed in the UK. We already have identified many unique DNA lines of Wrights in early Northern Neck VA, Bedford Co., VA, Trimble Co., KY, etc. I think that pattern will extend back in time as well. So, I agree with the plan to recruit as many Wrights from UK as possible in hopes of finding linkages to their American cousins, but would also keep the geographic origin open at this point too. Jeff Wright Wright DNA project co-coordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: <hardmba@aol.com> To: <wright@rootsweb.com>; <dwsbgs@centurytel.net> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 16:58 Subject: [WRIGHT] Richard Wright Sr. - New Y-DNA results for a collateral line to Daniel Wright of Wethersfield! > Hi Richard Wright Researchers, > > I think you all will all be interested to learn that we have now obtained > Y-DNA results for our first proven male line descendant of Thomas Wright > of Wethersfield, CT, the already proven?immigrant ancestor of Daniel > Wright (1674-1764) husband to Eleanor Benton of Wethersfield, CT.? > This?Daniel Wright has?oft-times?been proposed as the father of > Richard?Wright Sr. of Rowan County, NC.? These fresh Y-DNA results show > without a shred of doubt that Richard Wright, Sr.?of Rowan County, NC is > not the same man as Richard Wright,?the son of Daniel Wright and Eleanor > Benton.? These DNA data can be viewed at the Wright-DNA.org web site.? > > The male descendant of Wethersfield tested?out as belonging to?an entirely > different haploid group (related closely?to Deacon Samuel Wright of > Springfield/Northampton, MA) from the R1b1 haploid group?results for > the?three Richard Wright Sr. descendants for whom we have Y-DNA data.? > This means it is likely that?Richard Wright, Sr.'s?English > ancestors?didn't even come from the same region of England as the Wrights > of Wethersfield (West county Essex) and were not even of the same European > stock.??Richard Wright Sr.'s parents?could have been Welsh, Scottish or > Londoners, but almost certainly were not from East Anglia, England, though > we still?need Y-DNA results from proven male?descendants of Peter, Anthony > or Nicholas Wright of Long Island (descendants of the Kilverstone Wrights > of Co. Norfolk)?before we can?say categorically?that Richard Wright was > not likely from East Anglia, England.? Where he was from we still do not > know. > > However, these DNA data, in my mind, lay to rest for all time any notion > that Richard Wright Sr. of Rowan Co., NC was born in Connecticut to Daniel > and Eleanor (nee Benton) Wright.? Unfortunately, it does not help us take > any steps toward a better understanding of who?his parents?were and > where?he came from than we had before.? > > But I am thinking this is a problem that might be solved best by Y-DNA > testing of some willing Wright surname male candidates in Wales, the North > counties, Scotland and Ireland as a way of?getting a better map of > the?Wright?genetic landscape of England.? We would want men whose families > have been pretty much in the same general part of?England for 10 or more > generations or who know their ancestry well enough to know where their > families originated back to about the 1500's.?? > > A recruiting and DNA testing program focused?on English?men of Wright > surname?would?eventually bust through this brick wall?for Richard Wright > researchers by pin-pointing a region of England from whence the R1B1 > haploid group?is most likely to have come.??Once that was known, a more > thorough search of local/regional records would become a more doable task > that might reveal what you have all yearned to know for years.? Who was > Richard Wright Sr.?!! > > My hope is this news and these new DNA data will begin to turn the tide in > the speculation that this line of NC Wrights were originally from CT.? > Genetics says it isn't possible. > > Respectfully, > Mike Wright > > -----Original Message----- > From: herbert arkin <harkin@cfl.rr.com> > To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; wright@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 3:05 pm > Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] Herbert ARKIN > > > > go to the link and you will see! > > At 04:00 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote: >>Cite your source for your statement with out sourcing it is only a guess. >>Bud. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: wright-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wright-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>Behalf Of herbert arkin >>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:29 PM >>To: wright@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] Richard Wright, Sr. and Richard Wright, Jr. >> >>PLEASE CORRECT THIS:: >> >>Daniel Wright and Eleanor Benton are NOT the parents of Richard Wright, >>Sr. >> >>see: >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin/parents_of_richard_wright >>.htm >> >>thanx >> >> >>At 12:41 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote: >> >Hello All, >> > >> >These I think are my ancestors. So here it goes. >> > >> >This is what I have. I more than know it still needs lots of sourcing. >>Input >> >is good. If I am wrong, or this needs corrections please tell me and the >> >list. >> > >> > >> >Husband Richard Wright >> >Born Abt 1720-1730 Weathersfield, Hartford, Connecticut Colony >> >Died 3 Sep 1784 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Buried Joppa Cemetery >> > >> >Father Daniel Wright (1674-1764) Mother Eleanor Benton (1674-1749) >> > >> >Marriage 1748 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Other Spouse Abigail Wigerly (Abt 1732-1785) 1748 - , Rowan, North >>Carolina, >> >United States >> > >> >Wife Elizabeth Jane Morgan >> >Born Abt 1732 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died 1785 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> > >> > >> >Children >> > >> >Benjamin Wright >> >Born 1752 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died 3 Oct 1837 or 1842 Trader's Point, Marion, Indiana, United States >> >Spouse Barbara Morgan ( -) >> > >> >Peter Wright >> >Born 1754 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died Oct 1821 , Harrison, Indiana, United States >> > >> >Richard Wright >> >Born 1757 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died 12 May 1833 , Davidson, North Carolina, United States >> >Spouse Nancy Morgan ( -) 1780 - , , North Carolina, United States >> > >> >John Wright >> >Born 5 Dec 1759 , , North Carolina, United States >> >Died 4 Oct 1844 , Washington, Indiana, United States >> >Spouse Nancy Gilstrap ( -) >> > >> >William R Wright >> >Born 25 Mar 1761 , Rowan, Or Guilford, , North Carolina, United States >> >Died Bef Sep 1838 , Washington, Indiana, United States >> >Buried , Washington, Indiana, United States >> >Wright Family Cemetery, Indiania, United States >> >Spouse Martha Betsy Morgan (1768-) 1787 - Guilford, North Carolina, >> >United >> >States >> > >> >Evans C Wright >> >Born Jan 1762 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died 10 Feb 1846 Bevier, Macon, Missouri, United States >> >Buried Bevier, Macon, Missouri, United States >> >Banta Cemetery, Missouri, United States >> >Spouse Rebecca Summers (1774-1865) 1793 - , Wayne, Kentucky, United >> >States >> > >> >Amos Wright >> >Born 2 Mar 1764 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died 14 Oct 1846 , Washington, Indiana, United States >> >Buried Washington, Washington, Indiana, United States >> >Old Mill Creek Cemetery, Indiana, United States >> >Spouse >> > >> >Philbert Wright >> >Born 29 Mar 1768 , Rowan, North Carolina, United States >> >Died 31 Jul 1855 , Washington, Indiana, United States >> > >> >Research Notes >> >DAR file >> >Research Notes (Wife) >> >possible daughter of James Morgan born 1732 >> >possible second wife Ann Isom >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: wright-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wright-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >On >> >Behalf Of Susan J Avery >> >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:39 AM >> >To: wright@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] Richard Wright, Sr. and Richard Wright, Jr. >> > >> >These Wrights are actually not mine, although at one time I thought they >> >were - they were definitely here in NC - I wanted to let you know >> >however >> >that the area that is now Davidson Co. and became Davidson Co. in 1823 >> >WAS Rowan Co. NC before that - so they did not move - the county changed >> >and they stayed in the same place. >> > >> >Susan Avery >> > >> >On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:53:20 -0000 "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >> ><gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> writes: >> > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > > >> > > Author: gragg021 >> > > Surnames: >> > > Classification: queries >> > > >> > > Message Board URL: >> > > >> > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/8086.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx >> > > >> > > Message Board Post: >> > > >> > > Donna - hello. I get the Wright messages now that I'm on the >> > > mailing list. Do you know of a Richard Wright,Sr. (and Jr.) of >> > > Rowan County, NC? Jr. later moved to Davidson Co., NC >> > > >> > > Through a land sale deed, I recently became aware of my Wright >> > > heritage, being the Great-granddaughter of Mary Ann Wright (Varker) >> > > AND her 23 siblings, Richard, Jr.'s children by his second wife, >> > > Cary Kittrell (believed to be of Davidson Co., although it seems the >> > > Kittrell family is more to the eastern side of NC). >> > > >> > > Richard married 1:Mary (or Jane) Morgan in 1780; d. abt 1798. Had >> > > 12 children (includes 1 set of twins): >> > > Sarah >> > > Amos >> > > Delilah >> > > Jane Caroline >> > > Cory >> > > Gizzeal >> > > Reuben >> > > Isaiah >> > > Elijah >> > > Nancy >> > > Isom >> > > Susannah >> > > >> > > Married 2: Cary (M. 1798). Children are: >> > > Clayton >> > > Ruth (married Jesse Gallimore, Esq.) >> > > Celia (m. Snider) >> > > Nelson >> > > Silas >> > > Burges(s) >> > > Mary Ann (my GGM) >> > > Micajah >> > > Miles >> > > Ailsy >> > > >> > > It is known from an article about Ruth Wright Gallimore that her >> > > mother, Cary, had 12 children; however, I can only account for 10. >> > > >> > > Some information on this Wright family was obtained from "Genealogy >> > > of the Wright Family" by Lillie White, Mar 1943), but I've found >> > > through my own research, that some of the book is in error. >> > > >> > > Any additional information would be greatly appreciated. >> > > >> > > Shirley >> > > >> > > Important Note: >> > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If >> > > you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board >> > > URL link above and respond on the board. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >quotes >> >in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>Herb Arkin >> >>92,000 Descendants and relatives of Richard Wright, Sr. of Rowan >>County, North Carolina who emigrated to Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, >>Kansas and Missouri. Web page: >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~herbarkin >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Herb & Carol Arkin > Orlando, Florida > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WRIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message