This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarolynWright30 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/2263.2988.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What a very detailed family tree you have. Your Wrights came from the South East of England, whereas mine hailed from Cheshire in the NW of England, though my grandad's grandma (gt-gt) was born in France, and according to my gt-aunt was French by nationality. She was born a few years after the French revolution, so wonder if that's why she came to Britain or maybe due to religious persecution. If you have daughters, couldn't they carry on the name? Or is it the continuity of the Y-DNA profile that concerns you? Best wishes, Carolyn Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Carolyn, Our family tree is the work of over a dozen genealogist working since 1871. There are even a couple of books and a number of articles written on this line of Wrights. The bulk of the genealogical work I have done over the last 25 years involved connecting my branch of the family to the Kelvedon Hatch Wrights in New England, and then going about verifying the facts on the Kelvedon Hatch Wrights among the collected contributions of those previous genealogists. In many cases all I did was provide citations that were missing and developed arguments debunking theories and speculations that cannot be supported by the available documentation. My only real totally original work has been the launch of research associated with the Y-DNA analyses that took the line from the 1424 surname references back in time to 79 C.E where there were no surname references to guide us. I was aided in that last effort because I had the very good fortune to be in a family group whose Y-DNA haploid is relatively new to England and therefore fairly rare as a percentage of the population. As a consequence the haploid has quite distinctively defined phylogeographic distribution patterns in England that allow us to correlate the locations they occur with the Roman history of the immediate area. This same distinctive pattern distribution also holds in the Balkans where they originally came from so it was not too difficult to reconstruct their travels from the mid first century C.E. to 1424. It is worthy of note, however, to tell you that the area around Chester, England has the highest frequency of the E1b1b1a2 haploid of anywhere in England. Chester was the site of the largest Roman fort in England, Deva, and the disembarkation point and subsequent deployment dispatch point for many Legions of the Roman army during the first century C.E.. In fact, most of the Thracian mercenaries who operated in England in the first century arrived though that part of England. Initially they were there to develop salt mines near present day Manchester and silver and gold mines in Whales and to build roads to those mines. Later they were brought in for service building up and defending Hadrian's Wall and the fortifications along it. Later still, in the early third century, they were pulled off the wall and redeployed to help build the first three or four new shore forts on the Southeast of England. That is how Roman Legion XX ended up in Colchester for a time. We figure that a male line descendant of a Thracian mercenary who joined the Roman Army himself may have been a veteran of Legion XX who retired before Legion XX left Colchester. As for your husband's Y-DNA, you may find he is also haploid E1b1b1a2, since Cheshire has such a high incidence today of that haploid. That would mean he also has a mercenary Thracian as an original English ancestor, but perhaps from another Thracian who may have retired from one of the Legions in a prior time before they were spread out along Hadrian's wall or sent south to build and garrison the shore forts. That would be way cool to weave into your ancestry story. If that turns out to be the case, please get in touch with me and I can direct you to the research references that can explain and support that anthropological origins theory. Of course if he ends up being R1b1 then it would be impossible to tell what part of England he came from before his surname family emerges into recorded history. A R1b1 haploid could mean anything from him being a member of the original Cornovii tribe of of the Cheshire area in pre-Roman times to an Irish or Scottish transplant in later times. The problem with being R1b1 haploid is that this haploid has been in England since the end of the last Ice Age 13,000 years ago. As a result it has had enough time to spread evenly throughout the entire British Isles and without paying big bucks for a deep clade analysis, it is impossible to tell where most of them came from based solely on haploid profile matching. So, you see we were very lucky to be of Thracian origins and only have 2,000 years of moving around in England to track back through. What is quite doable for us is impossible for the vast majority of Wright men who are R1b1. As for our Wright line surname preservation, none of our girls (there are four of them) is the least bit interested in preserving the Wright surname. They are all quite traditional in the marriage category. They are happy to be able to claim DAR membership and that is all they want to do with their maiden name. So, it is the Y-DNA that is the link I would like to see preserved in our branch of the family through my brother's son who is the youngest of his generation and the wildest of the bunch. He is sort of an idiot savant who is too smart for his own good and can't seem to stay out of trouble with authority figures becasuse he can't figure out (or remember longer than a few minutes) what the rules of life are. He is a worry to us all. Anyway, it has been a thrilling ride for me taking up my paternal grandmother's hobby doing genealogy research. At first, I didn't much care to work on the Wright problems she left me. Gradually over the last 25 years I have picked up steam in the effort, boosted along by several discoveries that have eluded past researchers. Today I can admit I'm addicted to the pursuit of ancestors of all types and surnames. Their struggles, disappointments, triumphs and quirks all fascinate me, partly because their stories make me realize I come by my own bravado and quirkiness quite naturally. My ancestors, like almost all of those immigrants who left their homes and came to America, or Australia, or Canada, were never satisfied with things as they were and moved mountains and rivers to make a better life for themselves and their families and neighbors. That satisfactorily explains to me why I can't leave things well enough alone. I buy a house; I have to change and add to it. I buy a car; I have to gussy it up. I buy a tool; I have to find new ways to use it. I join a company; I have to find better ways to do the work. I can't help myself. As a result, I am a pain in the ass to a lot of people who would rather things stayed as they have always been....safe, predictable, routine. That is just not me and now I know why it can never be me. It just isn't in the genes. Best of luck to you in your genealogical endeavors, and keep in touch. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Re: [WRIGHT] wright name origin This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarolynWright30 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/2263.2988.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What a very detailed family tree you have. Your Wrights came from the South East of England, whereas mine hailed from Cheshire in the NW of England, though my grandad's grandma (gt-gt) was born in France, and according to my gt-aunt was French by nationality. She was born a few years after the French revolution, so wonder if that's why she came to Britain or maybe due to religious persecution. If you have daughters, couldn't they carry on the name? Or is it the continuity of the Y-DNA profile that concerns you? 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