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    1. [WRIGHT] WRIGHT Jean 1935-1935
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Grapevine Surnames: WRIGHT Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/17160/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WRIGHT Jean 1935-1935 I photographed this gravestone in Grapevine Cemetery, Tarrant Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,357 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Tarrant), cemetery(Grapevine) and Surname. If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely "not my family". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/31/2012 03:52:30
    1. [WRIGHT] Ancestors of John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) and 1767 Francis Wright of Amherst County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rngrant Surnames: WRIGHT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/17159/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Fellow Researchers: In Sorting Some Of The Wrights Of Southern Virginia, Part II: John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) the family of this John Wright and his wife Judith (Easly) Wright was discussed. Recent insightful research by Doug Rusmisell has identified the wife of John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) as properly Judith (Barnes) Wright, the daughter of John Barnes and Sarah (Raibone) (Barnes) Easley and the step-daughter of Warham Easley. In Sorting Some Of The Wrights Of Southern Virginia, Part VII: 1767 Francis Wright Of Amherst County the family of this Francis Wright and his wife Mary (Hawkins) Wright was discussed. The Wright DNA Project at http://www.wright-dna.org/ shows the descendants of John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) and 1767 Francis Wright of Amherst County as having near identical Y-DNA sequences (matching at 36 of 37 points), indicating a common ancestor from one to three generations back from each. In prior postings I have proposed that 1767 Francis Wright of Amherst County was probably a son of Francis Wright, Jr., and Anne (_____) Wright and a grandson of 1690 Francis Wright of Lancaster County. I have recently completed a draft of the evidence and arguments identifying John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) as the son of 1730 John Wright of Goochland County and grandson of 1690 Francis Wright of Lancaster County. Since the descendants of John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) and 1767 Francis Wright of Amherst County have matching Y-DNA, this identification for John Wright (Goochland County Carpenter) also confirms the identification of 1767 Francis Wright of Amherst County as a son of Francis Wright, Jr., and grandson of 1690 Francis Wright of Lancaster County. The draft of this identification is a little long to incorporate into a posting, but I will be happy to send a pdf of the draft material to anyone who would like to see it. Just send me a note. Best wishes, Robert N. Grant 15 Campo Bello Court Menlo Park, CA 94025 RNGrant@grantandgordon.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/31/2012 11:42:24
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Thomas George Wright - Ballylisk and Portadown, Armagh, Ireland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robertdunne12 Surnames: Wright Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/16697.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi OzJen I am researching this family as Sarah Mary Wright (1877 to 1960) is my grandmother. Any help just ask probably easier for me to visit Tandragee than you Robert Dunne Blackrock Co Dublin Ireland Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/31/2012 10:11:25
    1. [WRIGHT] Jay Wright, New York and Michigan, early-mid 1800s
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: srheath092899 Surnames: Wright, Walker Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/17158/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on the parents of Jay Wright, b.1814 in Chautauqua, NY; d. 1909 in Branch Co., MI. He was my 3rd-great grandfather. Also need the date of his marriage to Mary Ann Walker, b. 1817 in New York and d. 1877 in Michigan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/30/2012 10:12:47
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] DEVIL JOHN WRIGHT
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: judyann731 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/4476.4505/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, my great grandmother, Georgia Ann Johnson, was married to Devil John's son, Enoch Wright, a short time and fathered my grandmother, Francis Elizabeth Wright Ferguson, and her sister, Susie Mae Wright. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/29/2012 10:01:19
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DElvin35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mike You have been extremely helpful. Thank you so much. With reference to the other side of the family I will email you. With best wishes Dian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/29/2012 12:13:58
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jean. Been a while, indeed. The chart is something you can make up yourself in any spreadsheet program or any table function in a word processor. I think if you study the table a bit you will see the logic of it and that the relationship grid remains the same no matter what families you are comparing. Each column and row represents a generation in each family. You start with the most recent common ancestor in the upper left hand corner and then put the family of one of his sons and/or daughters across the top of the chart and the family of another of his sons or daughters along the left hand column. Then it is just a matter of reading the intersecting block for any two individuals in these two different families that you want to compare. If you want me to provide a blank chart, I can do that. Just e-mail me at hardmba at aol.com ('at' meaning @). Best Regards, Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/29/2012 12:11:02
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dian, Helen was a 10th cousin, once removed. Her father, Albert Allen Wright was a direct 10th cousin. If you study the chart a bit you will see that we can describe the relationship of any person in one generation to anyone else in any other generations by using the "removed" function of the chart. By way of graphically explaining how to read the chart, I have attached an expanded chart showing your husband's relationship to the Wright Brothers and you can see how it works a little better when you examine the two charts together. Your husband would be a 10th cousin, three times "removed" because he is in the third generation following his ancestor, Albert Allen Wright, who was an exact direct generational '10th cousin' to the Wright brothers. The term "removed" refers to the number of generations from which your generation is 'removed' from a direct generational cousin relationship between the two families being compared. I hope that this helps make sense of the chart. The generational relationships in the center of the chart remain the same no matter what families you are comparing. The only imput one makes in developing this chart is to have an accurate lineage for both families that are being compared, and then just put the generations in order for Family #1, left to right across the top of the chart, and Family #2, top to bottom on the left side of the chart. Then you can draw a line from any ancestor in Family #1 to the grid where a line drawn form any ancestor in Family #2 intersects. The relationship stated in that intersection box will be the "cousin" relationship between those two individuals. So, in discussing all of this with you over the last couple of days, I find that for as famous as your late father-in-law was in educational circles in England, and as much as has been written and published about him, there is hardly a mention of his family anywhere. Herbert Lionel Elvin seems to have been a master at keeping his private life, private, for nowhere in all that published material do we have any information on Herbet Lionel Elvin's son, your husband. What little there is on your late mother-in-law Mona Bedortha (nee Dutton) Elvin, is so brief as to be inaccurate. For instance, Lionel's obituary names her as Mona Bedortha only. I know however, that she was a class of '30 philospohy major at Stanford University and a member of the Kappa Alpha Theta women's sorority while there and that she met Lionel in 1933 while she was a student at the exclusive women's Newnham College at Cambridge U, and Lionel was a research fellow at Trinity College, Cambridge. Naturally, I am curious as to what your father-in-law and mother-in-law were like, as private people, and what it was like for your husband growing up in such a dynamic household. From what I have read of Lionel's publications, lectures and UNESCO memorandums, he carried about with him an astounding intellect and a gift for vision and leadership well beyond most of his peers. More interesting to me is that Mona seems to have been every bit his equal and a woman with the capacity to keep the feet of such an intellectually driven man firmly planted on the ground. I'll bet they were something to have known! Have you ever considered writing a biography about them? I bet you could sell a few copies in England at the very least! At any rate, I hope I have been helpful and would love to continue this conversation about the Elvin family off-post if you care to do so. My direct e-mail is, hardmba at aol.com ('at', of course is @). Cheers, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/29/2012 11:57:56
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] wrights in genesse county N.Y.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jdoppke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/338.671/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I need to sort out my Jonathan Wright of LeRoy, Genesee, NY, (b 1792CT d 1856NY). He seems to have had a few wives according to census and what sketchy records I've been able to find. Jonathan was part of the group that migrated from E Guilford, CT around 1810 and included Benjamin Wright. Anyone have these Wrights in their line?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/28/2012 07:20:59
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jean Rotter Surnames: Wright, Curtis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mike: You and I corresponded some time ago on my line. Lathrop Willis Curtis married Louisa Guild Wright and she is in Deacon Samuel's line. I am interested in a spreadsheet like I just saw for someone else. How do I go about getting one and what is the cost? I'm really enjoying your answers to people and I'm getting back into genealogy after about 6 years. thanks Jean Curtis Rotter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/28/2012 02:21:09
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DElvin35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mike Not sure how to read the spreadsheet, or how on earth you worked it out, but it looks as though the myth is not a myth and that Helen Bedortha Wright was a tenth cousin? Am I right? Very many thanks Dian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/28/2012 02:03:49
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dian, I forgot to attach the speadsheet to yesterday's post. Here it is now. Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/28/2012 09:12:18
    1. [WRIGHT] Shipbuilding Wrights in Massachusetts
    2. dale kerschner
    3. Does anyone know of any Wright branch in the eastern part of Massachusetts that were mariners or in the shipbuilding trade 1780-90 and possibly earlier?   Cheryl Kerschner

    08/27/2012 10:58:25
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, Dian, it would appear that Helen Bedortha Wright's father. Albert Allen Wright, was, in fact, a 10th cousin to Orville and Wilbur Wright, which makes Helen a 10th cousin once removed. I have attached a pdf file of the spreadsheet showing this relationship. This assumes that the lineages for your connection to Capt. John Wright/Alpheus (Alpha) Wright are correct. Turns out great grandma wasn't pulling anyone's leg. I bet she didn't know how she was related, since no one had known for sure about Dea. Samuel Wright's English ancestry until recently, but turns out she appears to have been correct. If you have any interest in the Kelvedon Hatch Wright lineage, the Wright-DNA project co-administrator, Jeff Wright, has put together a descendant's chart of the 20 some Y-DNA project participants who match those of us with documented descendancy from Deacon Samuel Wright or Thomas Wright of Wethersfield. The chart can be found by going to the web site .wright-dna.org and clicking on the "all other results" button in the upper left hand corner of the web page. That will take you to the Y-DNA profiles where you can scroll down to the E1b1b1a2 haploid labeled "Kelvedon Hatch Wrights" Under the 'Earliest Known Ancestor' column to the left of the Y-DNA values, click on one of the 'Samuel 1665' links. One takes you to Jeff Wright's web page and the other link takes you to the lineage chart. If you ever wanted to prove that Albert Allen Wright was a Kelvedon Hatch Wright, you would need to find a male descendant of one of his sons who is willing to have his Y-DNA tested. If that descendant's profile comes back as haploid E1b1b1a2, then the chances that Albert Allen was not a Kelvedon Hatch Wright are extremely slim. We cannot develop genetic proof through any of the descendants of Helen Wright because women do not carry the Y-DNA chromosomes so Albert's Y-DNA would not have been inherited by Helen. So let me give you a little deep history information on this Wright family connection you may also find interesting. If all the above is true, then it is still true that you are a descendant of a Dardanian barbarian who was sent to England in the first century by the Romans. From the Roman records of auxilary units raised in Dardania it would appear that this 'barbarian' was most likely transported to England from Gaul and served the Roman Army as a mercenary soldier skilled in calvary warfare. Between 50 B.C. and 49 C.E., the Dardanians had impressed the Romans with their fighting skill on horseback with lance and sword over rough terrain. The Romans had a long and biter struggle to subdue the Dardanians in the Dardanian's native mountain homeland that gives rise to the Drim River valley and is located in what is now Western Kosovo. The Dardanians were the last of the Illyrian-Thracian tribes the Romans had to subdue in order to create the first century province of Moesia Superior. Almost immediately after defeating the Dardanians in 49 C.E., the Romans began exacting tribute from th! e tribe in the form of gold, silver, tin and young, able bodied men to serve in the Roman Army's auxillia. One such Legion with a large contingent of Dardanians was Legos XX. Legos XX, when it was first created, was sent to Gaul to put down the German tribe uprisings. Following the successful conquest of Gaul, Legos XX was tapped to join Claudius in his invasion of England in 43 C.E. It is likely that our Dardanian ancestor joined Legos XX as a reinforcement soldier while it was already engaged in the fighting in England to subdue the tribes of southern England. Following the establishment of control of Southern and Eastern England, this ancestor was stationed in Londinum (London) when the Iceni revolted in 62 C.E. and was probably a seasoned veteran of the Roman Army when he was called on to help subdue the Iceni uprising. During the early days of the Iceni uprising those members of Legos XX who had been retired from the Army and put in charge of creating the first Rom! an 'Colonia' in England near what is now Colchester, county Essex, had been brutally wiped out by the Iceni and their allies and the colonia villiage largely destroyed. After the uprising was put down, another group of Legos XX mercenary soldiers who had served 20 to 25 years in the Army were retired and told to go to the Colchester 'colonia' and reestablish it for good. These veteran soldiers were each given full Roman citizenship and a small estate of their own within the colonia that was large enough to support a family. In addition the Roman governor of Britannia provided funds and military support for their efforts to rebuild the colony bigger and better than ever. 1400 years later, not 30 miles away from the site of this first Roman Colonia, our first documented Kelvedon Hatch Wright ancestor emerges as John Wright into written history as one of the members of what was then the emerging middle class of landed gentry who were neither Nobles nor simple yeomen, but well-to-do landed gentlemen with a growing voice in the running of the ki! ngdom. Exactly what John Wright's role was in facilitating the accension of Henry VIII is not recorded, but that John Wright prospered enormously under Henry's rule shows that he was someone the King had turned to for support and later found ways to generously reward John Wright for that support. Nowhere is that more apparent than in John Wright's last will and testament where he bequeaths no fewer than 9 major estates to his four sons. He was clearly a man of great land wealth. However, there is no evidence that John Wright was ever called to Parliment by Henry or knighted, and although John Wright seems to have been possessed of arms and crest, that healdric possession, in itself, did not entitle him to use any honorific titles such as 'Sir' or 'Lord'. He is described only as a 'yoeman of Sir Rich' in the documents concerning his purchase in 1538 of the tenancy of the manor and estate of Kelvedon Hall from Sir Rich, Lord of the Ongar Hundred. All the publications you ! see that name him 'Sir John Wright' or 'Lord John Wright' are the exce sses of early 20th century authors of genealogical works. These authors clearly did not properly understand the hearldric traditions of England and were, by and large, overly eager to link their lineages to some English Peerage, however thin the justification might be. He was just Mr. John Wright, gent. in the records and in my mind that pretty much confirms he had no rights to any sort of honorific beyond "lord of the Manor of Kelvedon Hall" which is strictly a local turn of phrase used in a community to refer to the gentlemen who owned the major estates in their community. Big fish in a little pond, as it were. Anyway that is a little background on your Wright ancestry. Best Regards, Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2012 05:59:15
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DElvin35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, Michael. I made a mistake. I have Alpha "or Alpheus" Wright and Lucy Foster with a son William Wheeler Wright, NOT William S Wright. Apologies. With all these children, there must be a crowd related to the Wright brothers! Helen Bedortha Wright was the lady who said she was "distantly" related to the Wright brothers. It is beginning to look very distant! Dian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2012 02:14:04
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DElvin35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My goodness, Michael. That is amazing. I knew you would have any information available. I'll check the middle name but it is more than likely a typo! Very many thanks. Dian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2012 11:49:26
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the Foster Genealogy, Alpha Wright's father was Capt. John Wright of Winchester (Winsted), Litchfield co., CT and Alpha had come to Tallmadge County, OH in 1802 with his parents and three brothers. The ancestry of Capt. John Wright (1743 - 1825) of Winsted, CT is fairly well understood back to the origins of the male line in England. Capt. John Wright was a descendant of Thomas Wright of Wethersfield, CT (1610 England, 1670 Wethersfield, CT) through Thomas' son, Joseph Wright (1639 - 1714). Thomas Wright was a 3rd cousin to Deacon Samuel Wright of nearby Springfield & Northampton, MA, and therefore Capt. John Wright was a Kelvedon Hatch Wright. I'd have to work it out as to exactly what cousin relationship Alpha's descendants were to Wilbur and Orville, but they would share as their most recent common ancestor, John Wright of Kelvedon Hall (1488 - 1551). The children of Alpha Wright and Lucy Foster were: Philo Wright (b. 1812, d. 1844); William Wheeler Wright (b. 1814, d. 1883); Lucy Ann Wright (b. 1816, d. 1899); Clement Wright (b. 1818, d.y. 1821); Abigail Wright (b. 1820 d.?); Clement Wright (b. 1822, d. ?); Amelia Wright (b. 1825, d. um. 1848); Twins Mary & Martha Wright (b. 1827, d. 1884 & ?); Benjamin Deming Wright (b. 1829, d. ?); Handel Haden Wright (b. 1832, d.um. 1854); Charles Storrs Wright (b. 1834, d.um. 1854). The only difference I see in what you listed is that William Wheeler Wright would not be William S. Wright. Assuming that the S. is a typo.... Going back to the children of Albert Allen Wright, it would appear that Helen Bedortha Wright would have been roughly contemporary with Wilbur and Orville Wright. I'll work up a 'cousin chart' for you and let you know what cousin relationship they were to Wilbur and Orville Wright. I am a 12th cousin once removed to them. So you are going to be in the 16th to 20th cousin category, I would think. I'll get back to you on that. Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2012 11:04:17
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2722.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Neither Orville nor Wilbur ever married or left any descendants. But both older brothers Reuchlin and Lorin did. Lorin Wright (1862 - 1939) m. Ivonette Stokes in 1891. They had two sons and two daughters: Milton Wright (b. 1892, d 1961); Ivonette Wright (b. 1896, d. 1995); Leontine Wright (b. 1898, d. 1977) and Horace Wright (b. 1901, d. 1990). Reuchlin Wright (1861 - 1920) m. Lulu Billheimer in 1886 and also had four children: Catherine Wright (b. 1887 but died young in 1892); Helen Wright (b. 1889, d. 1977); Herbert Wright (b. 1893, d. 1960) and Bertha Wright (b. 1896, d. 1977). >From among Reuchlin's and Lorin's descendants we have a direct male descendant of their father, Bishop Milton Wright, who has participated in the Wright DNA Project at Family Tree DNA. The Y-DNA profile of this modern day Wright Brothers male line cousin confirms the genealogical research of Bishop Wright, who traced the family lineage back to the immigrant father, Deacon Samuel Wright of Springfield and Northampton, MA (1606 England - 1665 Northampton, MA). Bishop Milton Wright and his children all descend from Deacon Samuel Wright's second to youngest son, James Wright (1639 Springfield, MA - 1725 Springfield, MA) and are, therefore, descendants of the Kelvedon Hatch Wright family of county Essex, England whose earliest well documented ancestor is John Wright of Kelvedon Hall, Kelvedon Hatch, Essex England (1488 - 1551). The Kelvedon Hatch Wrights were not related to the ancestors of Frank Lloyd Wright, whose immigrant father was Benjamin Wright (b. 1610 England d. 1677 Killingworth, New Haven Co., CT). Benjamin Wright was from Bolton, Co. Lancashire, England which is way to the northwest of Co. Essex, England. However, it is interesting to note that even though Bolton is far away from Kelvedon Hatch, Essex, the area around Chester and Manchester England contains the highest percentage in England of the Haploid to which the Kelvedon Hatch Wrights belong (E1b1b1a2) which greatly increases the chance that Frank Lloyd Wright's ancestors might also carried the E1b1b1a2 Y-DNA profile without being directly related to the Kelvedon Hatch Wrights. This haploid originated in England with the arrival of the Roman Army in 43 C.E. and increased greatly in the Chester area in number between 43 C.E. and about 130 C.E. peaking in 122 C.E. with the building and garrisoning of Hadrian's Wall by mercenary soldiers who had been conscripted into Legionary auxiliary corps of engineers, and cavalry from the Thracian-Illyrian tribe known as the Dardanians after their defeat and subjugation by the Romans in 49 C.E. Most of these Dardanian mercenaries never returned home to the Balkans, but were retired ! from military service, if they survived it, with full Roman citizenship and a small plot of land near their last duty station that was large enough to support their family. Most of them had started these families while still serving the Roman Emperor by taking local women as wives. This was a common practice by the Romans. The idea being to create a buffer zone, particularly in frontier areas where the people living outside the fortifications were related to both the soldiers and the local population. This tended to deter uprisings by the locals because it meant killing some of their own kin in order to get to the Roman garrisons. The point is that this area where Frank Lloyd Wright's immigrant ancestor came from contains a greater percentage by far of the E1b1b1a2 haploid than anywhere else in England or Scotland, far greater than its frequency in any part of the county of Essex. Therefore, it might be found in the future that descendants of Benjamin Wright (1610 - 1677) are indeed haploid E1b1b1a2 and then it will be very interesting genetic genealogical research to discover distinctive differences between the two Y-DNA profiles that might allow us to distinguish between them, genetically. Currently, we have only one Y-DNA participant who thinks he might descend from Benjamin Wright (1610 - 1677). He is not sure of this decent and it remains speculative in his research. He has tested his Y-DNA (not at Family Tree) but his profile for this test places him in the haploid I1, which is of Viking/Anglo Saxon origins rather than Balkan/Roman. Benjamin Wright's descendant family is pretty well known, not least because of the fame of one of his descendants, Frank Lloyd Wright. So, I am surprised that we don't have a documented male descendant yet for Frank Lloyd Wright in our database. Hopefully, that will change in the future. Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2012 10:11:06
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelWright12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2721.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bishop Milton Wright's family was not in any way related to the family of Frank Lloyd Wright. Two separate lines of Wrights there. Mike Wright Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/27/2012 08:48:01
    1. Re: [WRIGHT] Wright Brothers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dian_elvin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.wright/6959.2712.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ihave followed the correspondence but have so far not found my mother-in-law's connection to the Wright Broth rs. I do have her family though: Alpha Wright and Lucy Foster had a son, William S Wright William S Wright married Susan D Allen (Oberlin OH, 1836) They had a son, Albert Allen Wright(b.1846 d.1905) He married Mary Lyon Bedortha (1875 OH)and their daughter, Helen Bedortha Wright, married Caleb Samuel Simeon Dutton in 1908. They lived in San Francisco. Their daughter, Mona, was my mother-in-law. Family myth(?) says they are related to the Wright Brothers! Any ideas about this, Michael. I have been impressed by your knowledge, so if you don't know any connection it may well be just a myth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/25/2012 07:14:24