Well before WW1, actually - codebreakers have been active as long as codes have been in use, both in war and in peace. Several thousand years, I should think. Regards Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Signal Corps > The names below are of people that are deceased, who died in the line of > duty - there is a memorial wall to the code breakers and has the names of > those that gave their life in service to our country, the dates include > from > 1950 - 2006, I know there must be others as I think the first code > breakers > were started during WW1 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nell lamantia" <nellie@woh.rr.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Signal Corps > > > | My father taught some classes for the Signal Corps in Somerset KY. I > | believe the classes may have been radio or electronics. > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> > | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:44 AM > | Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Signal Corps > | > | > | > For those that had ancestors in the Signal Corp and are not able to > find > | > anything about them, the Code breakers/cryptologist came from the > Signal > | > Corps, below are a few names that I have information on. These not > only > | > served in WW2, also Korea and Vietnam. > | > > | > S/Sgt Donald G. Hill, USAF > | > A/2nd Class Earl W. Radlein, USAF > | > CT3 Edward Josepg Purcell. USN > | > S/Sgt Gene A. Vance, Jr., ARNGUS > | > Sgt. Joseph Michael Nolan, USA > | > SGT. Amanda N. Pinson, USA > | > SSG Edwin H. DazaChacon, USA > | > SP4 James T. Davis, USA > | > PFC Jay Robert Stoner, USA > | > > | > > | > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > | > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: > | > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please > remember > | > to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you > are > in > | > now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please > help > | > us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 > or > | > Nov 4, 1944. > | > > | > ============================== > | > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > | > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > | > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > | > > | > | > | > | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > | We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor > was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help > you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are > referring > to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > | > | ============================== > | Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > | Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > | > > ______________________________

Actually in the early 1930's the US Navy was the only source of intercepted traffic from the Japaneese, the US Army, in the 1930's, also got interested in crytoanalysis, In 1930 after the collapse of Yardley's New York "Black Chamber", William F. Friedman was given the task of creating an Army cryptologic capability in the office of the Chief Signal Officer, he started with 4 civilian students - Frank Rowlett, Solomon Kullback, Abraham Sinkov and John Hurt, their training lead to the compilation of War Department codes and ciphers and the solution of foreign military and diplomatic codes and ciphers. You can go to the NSA web site and read about the history of crytology. The Army Signal Corps established the 805th Signal Service Company, they were sent to a BTL school, the unit consisted of 81 officers and 275 enlisted, the officers were mostly lieutenants and captains and the enlisted men were technical and master sergeants, this company had the highest average grade of any company in WW2,I have a photo a some of the members: TSgt Jim Atkinson, Lt. Massey, Lt. Golliday, Lt. McWhite, Lt. Chope, MSgt Charlie Haas, SSgt Fred Buck, TSgt O'meil, Staff Sgt Jim Biggerstaff, Sgt Ed Dessert, Staff Sgt Frank Zylius and 'Willy" Wilchenski. Then you had the Navajo Code Talkers. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Bullen" <fwbullen@discoverymail.co.za> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Signal Corps | Well before WW1, actually - codebreakers have been active as long as codes | have been in use, both in war and in peace. Several thousand years, I | should think. | | Regards | | Frank | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 5:29 PM | Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Signal Corps | | | > The names below are of people that are deceased, who died in the line of | > duty - there is a memorial wall to the code breakers and has the names of | > those that gave their life in service to our country, the dates include | > from | > 1950 - 2006, I know there must be others as I think the first code | > breakers | > were started during WW1 | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "nell lamantia" <nellie@woh.rr.com> | > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:57 PM | > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Signal Corps | > | > | > | My father taught some classes for the Signal Corps in Somerset KY. 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Hi All: The Australians (Eric Nave), British (John Tiltman) & the Dutch (in the Netherlands East Indies) were also intercepting and decoding Japanese messages pre-WWII, see "The Emperor's Codes" by Michael Smith, and these articles (below) from Australia and on John Tiltman. Unfortunately the official histories of the British GC&CS (Bletchley Park) by Hinsley etc do not cover the Japanese (Far East): http://www.awm.gov.au/journal/j35/straczek.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tiltman http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3926/is_200310/ai_n9311691/pg_5 The US Navy tended to be tightfisted with their codebreaking work, both with the US Army (part of the problem pre-Pearl Harbour) and with the British. Yours, John Wilson (New Zealand) > Actually in the early 1930's the US Navy was the only source of intercepted > traffic from the Japanese, the US Army, in the 1930's, also got interested > in crytoanalysis, In 1930 after the collapse of Yardley's New York "Black > Chamber", William F. Friedman was given the task of creating an Army > cryptologic capability in the office of the Chief Signal Officer, he started > with 4 civilian students - Frank Rowlett, Solomon Kullback, Abraham Sinkov > and John Hurt, their training lead to the compilation of War Department > codes and ciphers and the solution of foreign military and diplomatic > codes and ciphers. > You can go to the NSA web site and read about the history of cryptology. >