Oh what tangled webs do our parents weave! Not that later generations are that much (if at all) better. My mother was a lovely lady, but she had another illegitmate son before me, then a third after marrying a Royal Air Force man a couple of years after I was adopted. So, three sons all with different fathers! In all the years, the three of us met together just once - a slightly bizarre experience. My mother herself was the youngest of eleven children, born in 1921. Her father, a Boer War veteran, and her mother finally got married in 1940, so she and all her siblings were legally illegitimate. I won't even start on the out-of-wedlock children of my aunts and uncles - if it 'runs' in families, it most certainly runs in mine! None of which is really relevant to World War II, so to give this posting some validity, I will mention that my birth father was Private B94664 John Morris CLARK, 2 Army Field Workshop, Royal Canadian Ordnance Corps. Born 23 Dec 1917, enlisted Toronto late 1939, sailed for UK with his unit early 1940 and based in southern England until Aug 1944, when after a period in detention he was shipped back to Canada, served more 'time' and was then discharged. Details of his crime are presumably amongst all that blacked-out stuff in his service record, but I know that he married an English girl (not my mother) in 1942 apparently without permission and I think it may be that he already had a wife back in Canada. He and his English wife had a child in 1943, so I have yet another half-brother around somewhere (Alan George CLARK, where are you?), possibly in Australia. If any of these names ring any bells with listers, I'd sure like to hear. Richard Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian & Muriel Caldwell" <ianandmurielcaldwell@ontera.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > I can see your problem Richard it must be very frustrating. I was very > fortunate and persistent I wasn't about to give up> I knew my father was in > the service and one letter as much as said he wasn't. As it turned out I > have a whole new search now for my half siblings, which by the way are my > fathers legitimate children but to my surprise I also found out that I am > the illegitimate one. My father passed away while I was very young and my > mother always led me to believe that they had been married. This was very > hard on my mother but she finally told me. Muriel > >

Nobody knows what they will do until they are confronted with the circumstances or as we say "do not judge me until you have walked in my moccasins" - if you would like, write me at my private e-mail and maybe if you want, we can try to find some of these, also there is a way to see thru the blacked out stuff, if you get the right equipment delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "esx goring" <esx@goring1941.freeserve.co.uk> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info | Oh what tangled webs do our parents weave! Not that later generations are | that much (if at all) better. My mother was a lovely lady, but she had | another illegitmate son before me, then a third after marrying a Royal Air | Force man a couple of years after I was adopted. So, three sons all with | different fathers! In all the years, the three of us met together just | once - a slightly bizarre experience. | | My mother herself was the youngest of eleven children, born in 1921. Her | father, a Boer War veteran, and her mother finally got married in 1940, so | she and all her siblings were legally illegitimate. I won't even start on | the out-of-wedlock children of my aunts and uncles - if it 'runs' in | families, it most certainly runs in mine! | | None of which is really relevant to World War II, so to give this posting | some validity, I will mention that my birth father was Private B94664 John | Morris CLARK, 2 Army Field Workshop, Royal Canadian Ordnance Corps. Born 23 | Dec 1917, enlisted Toronto late 1939, sailed for UK with his unit early 1940 | and based in southern England until Aug 1944, when after a period in | detention he was shipped back to Canada, served more 'time' and was then | discharged. Details of his crime are presumably amongst all that | blacked-out stuff in his service record, but I know that he married an | English girl (not my mother) in 1942 apparently without permission and I | think it may be that he already had a wife back in Canada. He and his | English wife had a child in 1943, so I have yet another half-brother around | somewhere (Alan George CLARK, where are you?), possibly in Australia. | | If any of these names ring any bells with listers, I'd sure like to hear. | | Richard | | | Richard | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ian & Muriel Caldwell" <ianandmurielcaldwell@ontera.net> | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:19 PM | Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info | | | > I can see your problem Richard it must be very frustrating. I was very | > fortunate and persistent I wasn't about to give up> I knew my father was | in | > the service and one letter as much as said he wasn't. As it turned out I | > have a whole new search now for my half siblings, which by the way are my | > fathers legitimate children but to my surprise I also found out that I am | > the illegitimate one. My father passed away while I was very young and my | > mother always led me to believe that they had been married. This was | very | > hard on my mother but she finally told me. Muriel | > | > | | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html | This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx |