This is in answer to Ellis Hosbach's queries. (the nature of his questions leads me to believe they are meant for me,and I am answering him here in case they will be of general interest). Yes,we wore the ASTP patch (it was a rather large depiction of an old fashioned oil lamp- as in the Lamp of Knowledge). There were some of us who did not like giving up our old unit's patch so they sewed the male halves of little snap fasteners on the shoulders of their uniforms,and the female halves on the backs of both their old and ASTP patches. That way they were regulation when on base and free spirits when "on the town".Our instructors were all civilian members of the regular faculty. There were about 1600 men in my ASTP unit,of which some 1200 or 1300 were studying languages(from the guys taking Arabic I learned how to say "may a thousand fleas infest your armpits").