I keep getting various messages from many different people... routed through your website... can you please delete my email address from your records as the number is getting ridiculous now... Many thanks.

When I do a look up or search a web site for a fellow list member I always cite the book or site. I do it so the person can get a copy of the newspaper for themselves if it is an article. One time I had transcribed an obit and they order the film based on the date I gave of the paper. They wrote me that the article wasn't there. I rechecked my source and was a day off so they were able to find it. No one's perfect and we who transcribe do double check, but errors do get by us. It's great to help people on the list for the here and now. One of the valuable functions of RootsWeb is to provide archives for future researchers. Some of those will have no idea how to verify information found in lists. A good friend of mine had taught genealogy at a college for years and has written six books on how to research. He is a member of a couple of lists I'm on and is great at explaining the value's of "going to the court house yourself." He has recently changed his signature file to: Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> I have a lot of respect for him and his opinions.:-) I appreciate willingness to help and certainly don't want to stop anyone. Citing sources helps many and even helps those who are new to genealogy the value of documentation. Margy Bousman List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Re: K Company 3rd Battalion 5th Marine Regiment 1st Marine... > If the person asking the question wishes to know my sources, then I am > happy > to provide them based on my 20 years of military research experience . > However, recently it seems that you are demanding sources in regards to > questions > neither asked by you or answers directed to you. I find your comments to > be > entirely off topic and unnecessary. Back to the questions, for which this > forum exists. Moderator attention please! > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor > was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help > you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are > referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

If the person asking the question wishes to know my sources, then I am happy to provide them based on my 20 years of military research experience . However, recently it seems that you are demanding sources in regards to questions neither asked by you or answers directed to you. I find your comments to be entirely off topic and unnecessary. Back to the questions, for which this forum exists. Moderator attention please!

If you wish to verify please feel free to reference the morning reports of Kilo company, the unit history and casualty list for the parent units, or request his IDPF file from the government. You will need to be familiar with order of battle terminology and Navy Department abbreviations as used in special and individual orders. I don't think it is necessary for all posting replies, to quote specific sources or resources. There are some on this board that possess military knowledge on obtaining information and their interpretation or actual experience in WWII and simply wish to help others.

you can say that you are giving information that is based on your military experience..... rather, it is information that you gleaned from SOMEWHERE... you failed to cite sources... and I made note of it... you have done a disservice to the list and the person asking for the query and now are trying to qualify it...... with all of your 20 years of research experience, you, of all people, should know better..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Re: K Company 3rd Battalion 5th Marine Regiment 1st Marine... If the person asking the question wishes to know my sources, then I am happy to provide them based on my 20 years of military research experience However, recently it seems that you are demanding sources in regards to questions neither asked by you or answers directed to you. I find your comments to be entirely off topic and unnecessary. Back to the questions, for which this forum exists. Moderator attention please! ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx>

http://www.kilo35-usmc.org/ This is the unit he was in. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] delong info > _http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm_ > (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm) > > Rick > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor > was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help > you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are > referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Corporal De Long was a member of this unit at the time of his death. K Company 3rd Battalion 5th Marine Regiment 1st Marine Division Rick

when one posts specific information there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for not citing the source of the information.. if it is personal knowledge, which you didnot have in this delong instance, that is one thing, you referenced a place... a book, a url something. and it should be cited..just as it would be cited if the information was sent to the researcher by a librarian... book, page author etcetcetc... else it is hearsay... if one is a historian, then one should do what is expected of them.. you cited the group the man was in. you did not cite the source of the info... even herein you tell me and i quote, "If you wish to verify please feel free to reference the morning reports of Kilo company" more specifics than yhou did at the first... and as it happens "I KNOW full well what you are talking about... but i doubt the original query person does! talking about general informaiton and things from a standpoint of KNOWING because of ones interest is one thing... stating on the list that a person was with suchNsuch comapny,bn,reg and div is another... do you understand the nuance..? the difference in these two instances?... also at issue is making a comment about such detailed info about the person being asked about leaves the researcher with just some info which may or may not be accurate... and no place to go back to to verify your words or to learn or to see if there is MORE that you did not investigate...... just as was done first thing this very morning.. a statement that the man was NOT on the ambc list.. when in fact he WAS... if we are going to help researchers, then lets do the whole job..not just hanging a carrot out to them... teach...tell them HOW to go about finding the info... for once they KNOW HOW, then they can apply it to other individuals in their family or they can help others.... not teaching and only giving info (without citation) is not helping... it is merely perpetuating hearsay..... On 1/14/06, Snowfrog1961@aol.com <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> wrote: > If you wish to verify please feel free to reference the morning reports of > Kilo company, the unit history and casualty list for the parent units, or > request his IDPF file from the government. You will need to be familiar with > order of battle terminology and Navy Department abbreviations as used in special > and individual orders. I don't think it is necessary for all posting replies, > to quote specific sources or resources. There are some on this board that > possess military knowledge on obtaining information and their interpretation or > actual experience in WWII and simply wish to help others. > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

_http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm_ (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm) Rick

wheres the citation? the REsource, the SOURCE > On 1/14/06, Snowfrog1961@aol.com <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> wrote: > > Corporal De Long was a member of this unit at the time of his death. > > > > K Company > > 3rd Battalion > > 5th Marine Regiment > > 1st Marine Division > > > > Rick > >

Mothers' name was Jetta De Long and lived on Claybrook Rd. in Dover at time of death. Rick

and with this in google.com K Company 3rd Battalion 5th Marine Regiment 1st Marine Division and when you have exhausted all the links..even the scholarly links, go in and use the abbreviations of each of the segments. as in K Co 3rd Batt 5th Marine Reg 1st Marine Div and then with K Co 3rd BN 5th Marine Rg 1st Marine Dv On 1/14/06, Snowfrog1961@aol.com <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> wrote: > Corporal De Long was a member of this unit at the time of his death. > > K Company > 3rd Battalion > 5th Marine Regiment > 1st Marine Division > > Rick > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

county ----- Original Message ----- From: .... valentine53179<mailto:valentine53179@hotmail.com> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] delong info and dover ma and county and now with this additional information one can go to rootsweb.com and slide down to ustowns and counties and enter in DOVER and then clicking submit... scroll thru the results and click on the COUNTY that is attached to the MA results... and there you will see all the resources for that COUNTY... each one a possibility for the researcher to follow thru with... and on the society and library links remember that material is often IN FILE CABINETS and not on the web so you will have to contact them to see if there is info and too, the list to sub to for that particular area.... and the message boards that may or may not be linked to the list... and which offer different individuals to help... every link should be pursued to its end.... this will not be a single nights work... doing the workd thoroughly will take more than a night... I would think that the mother is living in the town where weldon went to school... might want to pursue school... and city directories... the possibilities are endless.. too, there might be something other than the memorial page that appeared on the first google result... and not to forget the birthplace in canada.... and there too y ou will find mailing lists for that area..all worth looking in to.. likely the cem where the mother (and perhaps the father who seems to have already died) is buried, is also a memorial stone for the cpl... pursue it... and pursue the newspaper accountings too... look at the high school library for info about the men of the area who were in the military... and then, you will know the group he was with and pursue THAT on google and find out the diary of activities for the man during his military time... knowing that he died in one place is only a bit of his story... all the events leading up to that moment are part of the story. whatever you do... pursue it as a researcher and document your findings... with sources resources and urls that you used... do not use anything that says tinyurl in it... use the full detailed Url which in its naming convention tells the researcher information. I am done with this name... I have spent several hours on it.. I suggested information early this morning within a short time of the original post... I have determined that some people are not reading my posts and suggestions (WHICH I HAVE ALREADY taken the time to CHECK and KNOW TO BE VALID), not dong the exercises, not exploring, not scouting.... I feel that I am wasting my time... I am most frustrated.. .most dissuaded.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com>> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] delong info _http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm_ (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm>>) Rick ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com> subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

and now with this additional information one can go to rootsweb.com and slide down to ustowns and counties and enter in DOVER and then clicking submit... scroll thru the results and click on the country that is attached to the MA results... and there you will see all the resources for that country... each one a possibility for the researcher to follow thru with... and on the society and library links remember that material is often IN FILE CABINETS and not on the web so you will have to contact them to see if there is info and too, the list to sub to for that particular area.... and the message boards that may or may not be linked to the list... and which offer different individuals to help... every link should be pursued to its end.... this will not be a single nights work... doing the workd thoroughly will take more than a night... I would think that the mother is living in the town where weldon went to school... might want to pursue school... and city directories... the possibilities are endless.. too, there might be something other than the memorial page that appeared on the first google result... and not to forget the birthplace in canada.... and there too y ou will find mailing lists for that area..all worth looking in to.. likely the cem where the mother (and perhaps the father who seems to have already died) is buried, is also a memorial stone for the cpl... pursue it... and pursue the newspaper accountings too... look at the high school library for info about the men of the area who were in the military... and then, you will know the group he was with and pursue THAT on google and find out the diary of activities for the man during his military time... knowing that he died in one place is only a bit of his story... all the events leading up to that moment are part of the story. whatever you do... pursue it as a researcher and document your findings... with sources resources and urls that you used... do not use anything that says tinyurl in it... use the full detailed Url which in its naming convention tells the researcher information. I am done with this name... I have spent several hours on it.. I suggested information early this morning within a short time of the original post... I have determined that some people are not reading my posts and suggestions (WHICH I HAVE ALREADY taken the time to CHECK and KNOW TO BE VALID), not dong the exercises, not exploring, not scouting.... I feel that I am wasting my time... I am most frustrated.. .most dissuaded.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] delong info _http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm_ (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm>) Rick ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

which if you go here will tell you wht the criteria is for inclusion http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/page1.htm and which http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/index.htm will tell you that this entry is from Massachusetts World War II Casualty List Navy, Marines and Coast Guard and as noted on the cover http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/cover1.htm of "State Summary of War Casualties" for Mass by the US NAVY 1946" whichh is your full citation as a RESOURCE not a SOURCE but a REsource tho i will say that the scan has been truncated on this title page and that is not a GOOD thing at all....since it would hsow the specific OFFICE that it came from and not just that it was produced by the USnavy.... On 1/14/06, Snowfrog1961@aol.com <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> wrote: > _http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm_ > (http://www.accessgenealogy.com/navy/massachusetts/d3.htm) > > Rick > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

_http://www.wwiimemorial.com/default.asp?page=registry.asp&subpage=search&draw table=YES&Lastname=De%20Long&firstname=&hometown=&state=&dbcode=&curpage=3_ (http://www.wwiimemorial.com/default.asp?page=registry.asp&subpage=search&drawta ble=YES&Lastname=De%20Long&firstname=&hometown=&state=&dbcode=&curpage=3)

and in keeping with citations, just where is this information from.... url, book, gedcom numbered what, etcetcetc.... and is jetta a nickname or is it really her given name ----- Original Message ----- From: Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] US soldier's burial Mothers' name was Jetta De Long and lived on Claybrook Rd. in Dover at time of death. Rick ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

American Battle Monuments Commission Courthouse Plaza II, Suite 500 2300 Clarendon Boulevard Arlington, VA 22201 AMERICAN BATTLE MONUMENTS COMMISSION Weldon Fader De Long

you need to unsubscribe... it is an action that subscribers do themselves... you should stay however, as you will learn things if you stay... if you think that a few messages in this day are excessive, then perhaps lists are not for you.. I get over 600 messages a day... and the figure is not excessive for a researher.. so to unsub send a clean new email addressed accurately to worldwar2-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:worldwar2-L-request@rootsweb.com> with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in TWO places - subject and text and send.. you will get a goodbye letter... just as you received a welcome letter...(which gave instructions similar to this to unsub..) this all said, there have been at least 10 things sent to the list that will help ANY WWII researcher in any kind of search... a rather nice, free education.... ----- Original Message ----- From: ~ Julie ~<mailto:wheresjulie@hotmail.com> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] emails I keep getting various messages from many different people... routed through your website... can you please delete my email address from your records as the number is getting ridiculous now... Many thanks. ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx>

as well as on http://www.abmc.gov/home.php which is where the WWii gets the non-contributed data.... On 1/14/06, Drover54@aol.com <Drover54@aol.com> wrote: > _http://www.wwiimemorial.com/default.asp?page=registry.asp&subpage=search&draw > table=YES&Lastname=De%20Long&firstname=&hometown=&state=&dbcode=&curpage=3_ > (http://www.wwiimemorial.com/default.asp?page=registry.asp&subpage=search&drawta > ble=YES&Lastname=De%20Long&firstname=&hometown=&state=&dbcode=&curpage=3) > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >