go to WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com and type in "unsubscribe" (minus the quotes)in the subject line and again in the message box At 10:32 17/01/2006 -0000, Justine Walmsley wrote: >could someone please remind me how I unsuscribe to the list. > >Thank you > >Justine >----- Original Message ----- >From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@gmail.com> >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:04 PM >Subject: [WORLD WAR II] pick a theatre > > >> http://baby.indstate.edu/gga/gga_cart/gecar127.htm >> >> >> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >> We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country >> your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give >> dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >> example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > >==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > Regards George. George Smith <airforce@localdial.com> Home Page: http://www.localdial.com/users/airforce LRFHS Page: http://www.lrfhs.org.uk Jersey Island Page: http://www.jerseyvirtual.net Jersey Insight http://www.jerseyinsight.com Jersey Centenary Battle of Flowers: http://www.localdial.com/users/airforce/battle.html

could someone please remind me how I unsuscribe to the list. Thank you Justine ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@gmail.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:04 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] pick a theatre > http://baby.indstate.edu/gga/gga_cart/gecar127.htm > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

why justine, you should stick around there is much to learn... this link alone can make some battles more clear.. but if you must a clean new email addressed to worldwar2-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in TWO places subject and text will do the trick.... remind us all again, what you were searching for? On 1/17/06, Justine Walmsley <justine@justine11.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > could someone please remind me how I unsuscribe to the list. > > Thank you > > Justine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@gmail.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:04 PM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] pick a theatre > > > > http://baby.indstate.edu/gga/gga_cart/gecar127.htm > > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Send a new email to listname-L or D- request @ rootsweb.com For list mode: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com For Digest mode: WORLDWAR2-D-request@rootsweb.com Put subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject line and body nothing else. Margy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justine Walmsley" <justine@justine11.fsnet.co.uk> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] pick a theatre > could someone please remind me how I unsuscribe to the list. > > Thank you > > Justine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@gmail.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:04 PM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] pick a theatre > > >> http://baby.indstate.edu/gga/gga_cart/gecar127.htm >> >> >> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >> We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country >> your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you >> give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >> example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Sorry forgot to include their home site. http://aad.archives.gov/aad/index.jsp You can browse by category, time span or subject. margy ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbousman" <mbousman7@cox.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] finding information on Oda M. Hart > The link below is a place to start. > > http://aad.archives.gov/aad/series-list.jsp?cat=GP23 > > Click the second group down: > World War II Army Enlistment Records, created, 6/1/2002 - 9/30/2002, > documenting the period ca. 1938 - 1946 - Record Group 64 > > Then click search enlistment records > All the info you need to enter is his name Oda Hart. Click search. He's > the > only one that comes up. > > Click view record and you get all kinds of info on him > > margy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nell lamantia" <nellie@woh.rr.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:35 PM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] finding information on Oda M. Hart > > >> My cousin just got the response back from the military - they think the >> records on her dad were destroyed in that 1973 fire. Is there anywhere >> else we can get information? What we know is that he was inducted into >> the service Aug 31 1943 name Oda M.Hart at Fort Benjamin Harrison, >> Indiana. Enlisted for the duration of the War, Civil occupation: concrete >> mixer-operator, etc. >> We know he worked in Baltimore Maryland for a time on airplanes. He was >> living in a trailer and in the military. >> We are told he was in an army hospital until about February-March of >> 1946. >> His knee was injured when his tank ran over a mine (during the time he >> served under Patton). >> He was killed in a motorcycle accident less than a month after he got out >> of the service. >> I had his serial number but didn't put it into my family tree file and >> can't find it right now. >> >> >> >> >> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html >> This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, >> subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. >> Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what >> country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give >> dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >> example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor > was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help > you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are > referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The link below is a place to start. http://aad.archives.gov/aad/series-list.jsp?cat=GP23 Click the second group down: World War II Army Enlistment Records, created, 6/1/2002 - 9/30/2002, documenting the period ca. 1938 - 1946 - Record Group 64 Then click search enlistment records All the info you need to enter is his name Oda Hart. Click search. He's the only one that comes up. Click view record and you get all kinds of info on him margy ----- Original Message ----- From: "nell lamantia" <nellie@woh.rr.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] finding information on Oda M. Hart > My cousin just got the response back from the military - they think the > records on her dad were destroyed in that 1973 fire. Is there anywhere > else we can get information? What we know is that he was inducted into > the service Aug 31 1943 name Oda M.Hart at Fort Benjamin Harrison, > Indiana. Enlisted for the duration of the War, Civil occupation: concrete > mixer-operator, etc. > We know he worked in Baltimore Maryland for a time on airplanes. He was > living in a trailer and in the military. > We are told he was in an army hospital until about February-March of 1946. > His knee was injured when his tank ran over a mine (during the time he > served under Patton). > He was killed in a motorcycle accident less than a month after he got out > of the service. > I had his serial number but didn't put it into my family tree file and > can't find it right now. > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

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If you can find any old photographs of him in which his shoulder patches are clearly visible, remember that the armored division patches were very similar (triangular in shape) but listed the numeric designation at the apex (1-20). It is also possible that he was in an independent tank battalion or similar tank destroyer battalion which was assigned directly to division through army group levels. Many folks referred to them as tanks and can't tell the different between the common Sherman tanks and the various forms of tank destroyers. The letters written home, heraldic crest, or uniforms (Photographs ) will solve this the most quickly. If you find any references to numeric units, please post them. Tank battalions, whether organic to divisions or independent were in numbers typically between 1-812 (example 99th Tank Battalion) but the tank destroyers were seen in series from 601-899 (example 811th TD Battalion). Also, many units can be eliminated from your search solely because the army was, at that time still segregated and units that were African-American are identified as such.Good Luck! Rick

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Your cousins' Army Serial Number was 35932589.Year of birth 1922, enlisted 8/31/43. Service with Pattons' 3rd Army won't be of much help because dozens of units served within the various Corps in the European Theater and even the Corps were moved from army to army. The European Theater in which Patton served consisted of the 12th US Army Group (General Omar Bradley) and the 21st Army Group-British(General Bernard Montgomery), US Armies on continent were 1st-Hodges, 3rd-Patton, 9th-Simpson, 15th-Gerow (paper basically) and later the 7th-Patch. A reference to his tank would of course indicate an Armored Division but does not help narrow the search too much, as there were over a dozen US Armored divisions in which he could have served. Remember US divisions strength during WWII was roughly 15,000 men, and each Corps was comprised of between 3-6 divisions, quite a task. My advice would be to check with the courthouses in nearby counties in which he may have lived upon his return, as many vets filed copies of their discharge papers,VFW memberships,State records for service bonuses, and the VA for possible claims files which may yield service units. The easiest way to determine units of assignment would be to check with relatives living who may have letters received from him during wartime, these will yield his unit in abbreviated form but this list can translate for you, or if old uniforms are still existing which may have his division patch or unit heraldic crest which we can also identify. Keep us posted! Rick

My cousin just got the response back from the military - they think the records on her dad were destroyed in that 1973 fire. Is there anywhere else we can get information? What we know is that he was inducted into the service Aug 31 1943 name Oda M.Hart at Fort Benjamin Harrison, Indiana. Enlisted for the duration of the War, Civil occupation: concrete mixer-operator, etc. We know he worked in Baltimore Maryland for a time on airplanes. He was living in a trailer and in the military. We are told he was in an army hospital until about February-March of 1946. His knee was injured when his tank ran over a mine (during the time he served under Patton). He was killed in a motorcycle accident less than a month after he got out of the service. I had his serial number but didn't put it into my family tree file and can't find it right now.

This seems to be turning into a World War III List!!! Should we stop it now, but learn something from these exchanges? John -> -----Original Message----- -> From: .... valentine53179 [mailto:valentine53179@gmail.com] -> Sent: 15 January 2006 23:23 -> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com -> Subject: [WORLD WAR II] citations and references -> -> -> as with all on the list... -> you are entitled to your opinion.. -> -> you apparently did not read the earlier posts.. -> nor the post that clearly said that suchNsuchwas NOT on SUCHnSUCH data -> base when IN FACT it was.. -> now -> one can PAY for whatever services you might wish to subscribe to -> or -> one can LEARN to do research on their own... -> and -> be successful at it.. -> -> and one can learn about urls here on this list and learn about what is -> and is not avaialble to them via conversations and contributions.. -> FREE contributions by the list members who have done this for a long -> time... -> -> violated a researchers code of ethics? -> or not followed proper procedures? -> -> well gee, that seems does fit snowfrog to a T.... -> stating information without a miniscule bit of source...... -> and it was so simple a thing to do... -> as clearly it was expressed on a url provided by yet another lister at -> wwII memorial and ambc.... -> that was all it took... -> another simple copy and paste.... -> and yet -> it was not given and on top of it FOUGHT AGAINST giving the info!. -> -> -> it should be noted that not all people TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES to do -> more research and too -> the posts on this list are in the archives for a very long time.... -> both with accuracy and INaccuracy and many naked in their -> presentation.... -> -> there are many new people on this list... -> many who have no idea that there are many free and available -> items on the net... -> and too -> many of these items are not found with search engines because of the -> heirarchy that they reside in on their web pages... -> -> not to mention that some items are seen by PEOPLE in the form of -> graphics and not searchable by spiderbots and such.... -> all of this evidenced with the info that wa posted to the list -> regarding the DElong exercise... -> -> giving people the SOURCES for the information that is being PRESENTED -> is NOT HANDING anything to a researcher... it is making the -> information complete.. -> it is not even above and beyond the call of duty.. it is standard -> practice... giving CREDIT where credit is due... else it is -> plagarism.... ! a nice word for THEFT! -> -> i know, i know snowfrog felt the need to play the game and drop years -> of experience... he is a young one to my work for over 40 years... -> longer that just about anyone on this list... i have done this work -> both with and without computers... and i might add FOR FREE....both on -> and off lists... -> -> you will notice too that i did not GIVE an answer to the -> original poster... -> I gave hime information to go and FIND data for himself... -> all of which were sites that i checked out... -> you know the old concept of eating fish or knowing how to fish -> for fish, right? -> -> -> for anyone to not follow basic and accepted practices of citation is -> absurd... for anyone to support anyone else who does not follow -> accepted practices is just as absurd.... -> -> it seems that this recent writer confuses links - where one can look -> for information - is something that needs to be cited (not!) .... the -> point has been missed... when specific information such as was -> presented regarding delong is presented as a stand alone statement -> without citation is WRONG... perhaps the url where the name could have -> been found would have been more appropriate and then snowfrog would on -> ly have had to do one copyPaste! -> -> too if the url had been given, just how many people on the list might -> have gone there and checked for their own family names... -> I wonder how many DID go to the link where delong and his mother were -> presented as a graphic? -> How many figured out how to get to their alphabetic letter or looked -> at the title page or the index and found the information about POWs? -> -> the list is for learning... -> on several occasions in these last two days -> i sent in posts asking for the source/REsource to be noted... -> sure, the original submitted took offense... -> because they failed at the basics in documentation... -> it is not library science at stake... -> it is a FULLY documented chart n family history that IS at stake.. -> experienced researchs ALL know that citation and documentation -> are requied... -> -> if this recent writer had read the material from the beginning of the -> thread - whcih can be done when the Threaded Archives is again -> uptodate (rootsweb is having problems with archiver), i think they -> will find that more than just a commentary about citation was -> presented to the list.... -> -> i presume -> that everyone on the list knows how to get to the threaded archives... -> -> -> if you dont, then click on this address and ask valentine53179@gmail.com -> -> -> -> -> -> -> On 1/15/06, s k <jackflack3@yahoo.com> wrote: -> > Yet everyone should note that the original poster Bill -> > White who asked about Delong is probably afraid to -> > check back in because helpful posters have violated a -> > researches code of ethics amd have not followed proper -> > procedures? -> > -> > In most cases this list and others like it are about a -> > family member looking for information on relatives who -> > have served in the armed forces. It's about helping -> > someone out and not getting lectured on library -> > science. Most posters have no idea where to start and -> > any historical data is appreciated. -> > -> > Snowfrog has done a great service here for a long -> > time. When I was looking for info on a great uncle -> > killed on Peleliu I did not automatically assume that -> > the information that I received from bulletin board / -> > lists respondents was correct. I took it upon myself -> > to research and to follow up with other sources of -> > information. -> > -> > If you want to use the resources of the internet to -> > look for a military history of a relative then fine. -> > If you want someone to do all the work for you with -> > references and citations then you can pay for it. -> > -> > Other sites that are very helpful with no lecturing -> > just good helpful information. -> > -> > http://members.aol.com/dadswar/ -> > -> > http://genforum.genealogy.com/wwii/ -> > -> > http://ww2.vet.org/default.asp -> > -> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=topics.Military.wwii -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > --- ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> -> > wrote: -> > -> > > you can say that you are giving information that is -> > > based on your military experience..... -> > > rather, it is information that you gleaned from -> > > SOMEWHERE... -> > > you failed to cite sources... and I made note of -> > > it... -> > > you have done a disservice to the list and the -> > > person asking for the query and now are trying to -> > > qualify it...... -> > > with all of your 20 years of research experience, -> > > you, of all people, should know better..... -> > > -> > > ----- Original Message ----- -> > > From: -> > > Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com> -> > > To: -> > > -> > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> -> > > -> > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:45 PM -> > > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Re: K Company 3rd -> > > Battalion 5th Marine Regiment 1st Marine... -> > > -> > > -> > > If the person asking the question wishes to know -> > > my sources, then I am happy -> > > to provide them based on my 20 years of military -> > > research experience -> > > However, recently it seems that you are demanding -> > > sources in regards to questions -> > > neither asked by you or answers directed to you. -> > > I find your comments to be -> > > entirely off topic and unnecessary. Back to the -> > > questions, for which this -> > > forum exists. Moderator attention please! -> > > -> -> -> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== -> We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what -> country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially -> you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you -> are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. -> -> ============================== -> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find -> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: -> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx -> -> -- -> No virus found in this incoming message. -> Checked by AVG Free Edition. -> Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: -> 13/01/2006 -> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 13/01/2006

still think we should find us a vacant ship ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Taylor" <johnataylor@btinternet.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [WORLD WAR II] citations and references > This seems to be turning into a World War III List!!! > > Should we stop it now, but learn something from these exchanges? > > John > > -> -----Original Message----- > -> From: .... valentine53179 [mailto:valentine53179@gmail.com] > -> Sent: 15 January 2006 23:23 > -> To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > -> Subject: [WORLD WAR II] citations and references > -> > -> > -> as with all on the list... > -> you are entitled to your opinion.. > -> > -> you apparently did not read the earlier posts.. > -> nor the post that clearly said that suchNsuchwas NOT on SUCHnSUCH data > -> base when IN FACT it was.. > -> now > -> one can PAY for whatever services you might wish to subscribe to > -> or > -> one can LEARN to do research on their own... > -> and > -> be successful at it.. > -> > -> and one can learn about urls here on this list and learn about what is > -> and is not avaialble to them via conversations and contributions.. > -> FREE contributions by the list members who have done this for a long > -> time... > -> > -> violated a researchers code of ethics? > -> or not followed proper procedures? > -> > -> well gee, that seems does fit snowfrog to a T.... > -> stating information without a miniscule bit of source...... > -> and it was so simple a thing to do... > -> as clearly it was expressed on a url provided by yet another lister at > -> wwII memorial and ambc.... > -> that was all it took... > -> another simple copy and paste.... > -> and yet > -> it was not given and on top of it FOUGHT AGAINST giving the info!. > -> > -> > -> it should be noted that not all people TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES to do > -> more research and too > -> the posts on this list are in the archives for a very long time.... > -> both with accuracy and INaccuracy and many naked in their > -> presentation.... > -> > -> there are many new people on this list... > -> many who have no idea that there are many free and available > -> items on the net... > -> and too > -> many of these items are not found with search engines because of the > -> heirarchy that they reside in on their web pages... > -> > -> not to mention that some items are seen by PEOPLE in the form of > -> graphics and not searchable by spiderbots and such.... > -> all of this evidenced with the info that wa posted to the list > -> regarding the DElong exercise... > -> > -> giving people the SOURCES for the information that is being PRESENTED > -> is NOT HANDING anything to a researcher... it is making the > -> information complete.. > -> it is not even above and beyond the call of duty.. it is standard > -> practice... giving CREDIT where credit is due... else it is > -> plagarism.... ! a nice word for THEFT! > -> > -> i know, i know snowfrog felt the need to play the game and drop years > -> of experience... he is a young one to my work for over 40 years... > -> longer that just about anyone on this list... i have done this work > -> both with and without computers... and i might add FOR FREE....both on > -> and off lists... > -> > -> you will notice too that i did not GIVE an answer to the > -> original poster... > -> I gave hime information to go and FIND data for himself... > -> all of which were sites that i checked out... > -> you know the old concept of eating fish or knowing how to fish > -> for fish, right? > -> > -> > -> for anyone to not follow basic and accepted practices of citation is > -> absurd... for anyone to support anyone else who does not follow > -> accepted practices is just as absurd.... > -> > -> it seems that this recent writer confuses links - where one can look > -> for information - is something that needs to be cited (not!) .... the > -> point has been missed... when specific information such as was > -> presented regarding delong is presented as a stand alone statement > -> without citation is WRONG... perhaps the url where the name could have > -> been found would have been more appropriate and then snowfrog would on > -> ly have had to do one copyPaste! > -> > -> too if the url had been given, just how many people on the list might > -> have gone there and checked for their own family names... > -> I wonder how many DID go to the link where delong and his mother were > -> presented as a graphic? > -> How many figured out how to get to their alphabetic letter or looked > -> at the title page or the index and found the information about POWs? > -> > -> the list is for learning... > -> on several occasions in these last two days > -> i sent in posts asking for the source/REsource to be noted... > -> sure, the original submitted took offense... > -> because they failed at the basics in documentation... > -> it is not library science at stake... > -> it is a FULLY documented chart n family history that IS at stake.. > -> experienced researchs ALL know that citation and documentation > -> are requied... > -> > -> if this recent writer had read the material from the beginning of the > -> thread - whcih can be done when the Threaded Archives is again > -> uptodate (rootsweb is having problems with archiver), i think they > -> will find that more than just a commentary about citation was > -> presented to the list.... > -> > -> i presume > -> that everyone on the list knows how to get to the threaded archives... > -> > -> > -> if you dont, then click on this address and ask > valentine53179@gmail.com > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> On 1/15/06, s k <jackflack3@yahoo.com> wrote: > -> > Yet everyone should note that the original poster Bill > -> > White who asked about Delong is probably afraid to > -> > check back in because helpful posters have violated a > -> > researches code of ethics amd have not followed proper > -> > procedures? > -> > > -> > In most cases this list and others like it are about a > -> > family member looking for information on relatives who > -> > have served in the armed forces. It's about helping > -> > someone out and not getting lectured on library > -> > science. Most posters have no idea where to start and > -> > any historical data is appreciated. > -> > > -> > Snowfrog has done a great service here for a long > -> > time. When I was looking for info on a great uncle > -> > killed on Peleliu I did not automatically assume that > -> > the information that I received from bulletin board / > -> > lists respondents was correct. I took it upon myself > -> > to research and to follow up with other sources of > -> > information. > -> > > -> > If you want to use the resources of the internet to > -> > look for a military history of a relative then fine. > -> > If you want someone to do all the work for you with > -> > references and citations then you can pay for it. > -> > > -> > Other sites that are very helpful with no lecturing > -> > just good helpful information. > -> > > -> > http://members.aol.com/dadswar/ > -> > > -> > http://genforum.genealogy.com/wwii/ > -> > > -> > http://ww2.vet.org/default.asp > -> > > -> > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=topics.Military.wwii > -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > --- ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> > -> > wrote: > -> > > -> > > you can say that you are giving information that is > -> > > based on your military experience..... > -> > > rather, it is information that you gleaned from > -> > > SOMEWHERE... > -> > > you failed to cite sources... and I made note of > -> > > it... > -> > > you have done a disservice to the list and the > -> > > person asking for the query and now are trying to > -> > > qualify it...... > -> > > with all of your 20 years of research experience, > -> > > you, of all people, should know better..... > -> > > > -> > > ----- Original Message ----- > -> > > From: > -> > > Snowfrog1961@aol.com<mailto:Snowfrog1961@aol.com> > -> > > To: > -> > > > -> > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > -> > > > -> > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:45 PM > -> > > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Re: K Company 3rd > -> > > Battalion 5th Marine Regiment 1st Marine... > -> > > > -> > > > -> > > If the person asking the question wishes to know > -> > > my sources, then I am happy > -> > > to provide them based on my 20 years of military > -> > > research experience > -> > > However, recently it seems that you are demanding > -> > > sources in regards to questions > -> > > neither asked by you or answers directed to you. > -> > > I find your comments to be > -> > > entirely off topic and unnecessary. Back to the > -> > > questions, for which this > -> > > forum exists. Moderator attention please! > -> > > > -> > -> > -> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > -> We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what > -> country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially > -> you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you > -> are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > -> > -> ============================== > -> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > -> marriage announcements and more. 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