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    1. life boat ration
    2. .... valentine53179
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    01/21/2006 01:35:04
    1. RE: [WORLD WAR II] John KING Lost at sea 27 Oct 1943
    2. M.G.Fergusson
    3. Name: KING, JOHN Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Chief Engine Room Artificer Regiment: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. Albatross Age: 36 Date of Death: 28/10/1943 Service No: C/MX 50056 Additional information: Son of John and Elizabeth King, of Accrington, Lancashire; husband of Elizabeth King. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. C. Cons. Grave 18103. Cemetery: <http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=2086001&mod e=1> PLYMOUTH (WESTON MILL) CEMETERY On the same date is: Name: TURNER, JAMES Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment: Pioneer Corps Unit Text: 9001 Fire Fighting Sec. Age: 22 Date of Death: 27/10/1943 Service No: 2981908 Additional information: Son of James G. Turner and Margaret Turner, of Stirling. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 21. Column 1. Memorial: <http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=2012400&mod e=1> BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL Surname TURNER First name James Service number 2981908 Date of death 27/10/1943 Decoration Place of birth Stirlingshire Other Pioneer Corps SNWM roll SCOTSMEN IN VARIOUS UNITS Rank Pte Theatre of death At Sea Aye Malcolm

    01/21/2006 01:20:34
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Lost at sea 27 Oct 1943
    2. Forrest Anderson
    3. On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:40:51 +0000, "Robin's wool" <robin@scottishwool.com> wrote: >Is there a specialist elist for British Navy in WW2? Despite the extremely high amount of correspondence about the US Armed Forces here recently, this is an international list, and queries about the British and other Armed Forces in WW2 are very welcome. >Can anyone help me towards the wartime records of John KING >My Uncle John KING was a CERA and was 'missing at sea' somewhere near >Plymouth on Oct 27 1943. He was buried 'with naval honours at 11.00 on >11/11/1943 in West Hill Cemetery Plymouth. >He had been out in the China Seas and they had recently returned to home >waters. Deaths of British and Commonwealth personnel in WW1 and WW2 are recorded by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission at www.cwgc.org and they have an on-line database which you can use to search for a casualty. The following casualty appears to be a good match with the information you have provided: http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2811558 Name: KING, JOHN Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Chief Engine Room Artificer Regiment: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. Albatross Age: 36 Date of Death: 28/10/1943 Service No: C/MX 50056 Additional information: Son of John and Elizabeth King, of Accrington, Lancashire; husband of Elizabeth King. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. C. Cons. Grave 18103. Cemetery: PLYMOUTH (WESTON MILL) CEMETERY The slight difference in date is nothing to worry about, but note the correct name of the cemetery. HMS Albatross was a 4,800 ton Seaplane Carrier, over 443 feet long and with a complement of 450. Completed for the Royal Australian Navy in 1929, she was transferred to the Royal Navy in part-payment for the cruiser Hobart, and was commissioned in 1938. She could carry up to nine Walrus seaplanes, and was equipped with a catapault for launching the aircraft. From Aug 1939 to Oct 1943 she was used mainly by No 710 Squadron of the Fleet Air Arm off West Africa, Madagascar and the Indian Ocean. On 15 Jul 1943 the squadron embarked on the Albatross for the last time, and was taken to Africa, where the Walrus aircraft were taken off at Kilindini and ferried to Nairobi. The squadron continued on the Albatross (now without aircraft) back to the UK, and disbanded at Lee on Solent on 14 Oct 1943. See "The Squadrons of the Fleet Air Arm" by Sturtivant and Ballance for more info. In November 1943 the Albatross became a repair ship, and according to Warlow's "Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy", was used until May 1944 as a "Landing Craft Accountant and Maintenance Base" at Plymouth. On 11 Aug 1944 she was hit by a Dackel show-running torpedo in the Channel with the loss of over 60 lives. She was later sold. The ship served with the Eastern Fleet from 1942-43, the Home Fleet in 1944, and in the Reserve in 1945. See http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/Albatross.html >There some family mystery about his death and suspicion that he was >involved in pre D-day trials which went wrong .... It seems that John King died around the time that the ship was being converted. He may therefore have been killed in a dockyard accident or some other incident not related to enemy action, but since the ship seems to have been used as an administrative base connected with Landing Craft around that time, then your story may have some basis. The incident at Slapton Sands in April 1944, where a Landing Craft exercise went wrong, is described on the Internet and in various books, and some of these books may refer to previous exercises. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/beyond/factsheets/makhist/makhist8_prog11b.shtml which gives the titles of some books about this exercise. Service Records of men who served in the Royal Navy in WW2 are held by the Ministry of Defence, and the following links describe how next of kin can apply for a copy. http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/service_recs/service_recs.htm http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/service_recs/service%20_recs_rn.htm http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/contact_us/contact_us_faqserpens.htm Forrest -- Forrest Anderson - British Military Genealogical Researcher. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com

    01/21/2006 01:09:53
    1. John KING Lost at sea 27 Oct 1943
    2. Robin's wool
    3. Is there a specialist elist for British Navy in WW2? Can anyone help me towards the wartime records of John KING My Uncle John KING was a CERA and was 'missing at sea' somewhere near Plymouth on Oct 27 1943. He was buried 'with naval honours at 11.00 on 11/11/1943 in West Hill Cemetery Plymouth. He had been out in the China Seas and they had recently returned to home waters. There some family mystery about his death and suspicion that he was involved in pre D-day trials which went wrong .... My father tried to find out more but could not get any thing other than a formal death certificate at the time. Dad has left a note of 'Admiralty Ref DNA/83/DD/8472' Can add that his Service number is known and he joined in 1933 Can someone point me at the right archive to chase this file? Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

    01/21/2006 11:36:16
    1. Lost at sea 27 Oct 1943
    2. Robin's wool
    3. Can anyone help me towards the wartime records of John KING Can add that his Service number is known and he joined in 1933 Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

    01/21/2006 10:42:25
    1. Lost at sea 27 Oct 1943
    2. Robin's wool
    3. Is there a specialist elist for British Navy in WW2? Can anyone help me towards the wartime records of John KING My Uncle John KING was a CERA and was 'missing at sea' somewhere near Plymouth on Oct 27 1943. He was buried 'with naval honours at 11.00 on 11/11/1943 in West Hill Cemetery Plymouth. He had been out in the China Seas and they had recently returned to home waters. There some family mystery about his death and suspicion that he was involved in pre D-day trials which went wrong .... My father tried to find out more but could not get any thing other than a formal death certificate at the time. Dad has left a note of 'Admiralty Ref DNA/83/DD/8472' Can someone point me at the right archive to chase this file? Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

    01/21/2006 10:40:51
    1. beaufighters
    2. .... valentine53179
    3. i presume that we have visited google with beaufighters in the query box.... and then to fine tune it enter in beaufighters +"numrange:1944..1945" or beaufighters +1944..1945 or beaufighters +1944..1945 +PLACEofINTERESTthatYOURpersonWASat or even the person's NAME or group

    01/21/2006 06:08:58
    1. roll of honour
    2. .... valentine53179
    3. http://www.roll-of-honour.com/

    01/20/2006 05:07:21
    1. newspaper images
    2. .... valentine53179
    3. nope, no vested interest, and not a pormotion to buy... and tho the images are 'watermarked' i think it nice to be able to seee at least a good portion of the page that just MIGHT carry a headline that will FIT with your own history... for your own use, clip or save.. URL: http://www.wartimepress.com TITLE: The Wartime Press DESCRIPTION: Image archive of military publications from various War Time Eras, WWI, WWII, Korean War. Magazines, Newspapers, Booklets, Manuals, Documents, militaria and collectibles and more.

    01/20/2006 05:02:28
    1. something to scout
    2. .... valentine53179
    3. URL: http://1471sqdnatchistory.95mb.com TITLE: Welcome to 1471 Squadron ATC History 1941-1995 DESCRIPTION: Welcome to 1471 Squadron ATC 1941-1995 History Pages, Officer Pages, NCO Pages, Gallery's, Aircraft Gliding, Albums, Links.

    01/20/2006 04:49:38
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Identity of US Mil. Issue Knife
    2. William Longmore
    3. You have us all intrigued, I would love to see the knife and hear the story. TIA Talk to you soon, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeorgeHortonFam@cs.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:28 AM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Identity of US Mil. Issue Knife > Can anyone help me identify a knife, apparently used by a soldier during > WWII > in europe. It is apparently a US issue item. If you think you can identify > it > please write me direct and I will send you the picture. It is tied to a 63 > year old murder in England. > Hunter George > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    01/20/2006 10:11:05
    1. knife identification
    2. Tom Mueller
    3. You might try this site if you don't have any luck here. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/ Tom Mueller Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:28:59 EST > From: GeorgeHortonFam@cs.com > To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Identity of US Mil. Issue Knife > > Can anyone help me identify a knife, apparently used > by a soldier during WWII > in europe. It is apparently a US issue item. If you > think you can identify it > please write me direct and I will send you the > picture. It is tied to a 63 > year old murder in England. > Hunter George > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    01/20/2006 08:44:35
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Identity of US Mil. Issue Knife
    2. Delilah
    3. I will take a look ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeorgeHortonFam@cs.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Identity of US Mil. Issue Knife > Can anyone help me identify a knife, apparently used by a soldier during > WWII > in europe. It is apparently a US issue item. If you think you can identify > it > please write me direct and I will send you the picture. It is tied to a 63 > year old murder in England. > Hunter George > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    01/20/2006 06:16:26
    1. Identity of US Mil. Issue Knife
    2. Can anyone help me identify a knife, apparently used by a soldier during WWII in europe. It is apparently a US issue item. If you think you can identify it please write me direct and I will send you the picture. It is tied to a 63 year old murder in England. Hunter George

    01/19/2006 01:28:59
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] delong info and dover ma and county
    2. The command organization for the 1st Marine Division (Reinforced) for the Guadalcanal Operation- (Codenamed " Pestilence") Official Unit History 1st Marine Division-"The Old Breed"-Infantry Journal Press-1949 Unit Commanders 1st Marine Division-Major Gen. A.A. Vandergrift 5th Marine Regiment-Col. Leroy Hunt (Overall Commander-Combat Group " A " during landing phase) 1st Battalion-Lt. Col. Lenard Cresswell 2nd Battalion-Lt. Col. Harold Rosecrans 3rd Battalion-Lt. Col. Frederick Biebush K Company(1st Platoon) - Lt. A. L. Adams (Author of "War and Work") Quote-Lt. Col A.L. Adams (Retired) " War and Work " Chapter 12 " One member of our company (then) PFC Weldon Delong, would receive the Navy Cross for heroism, eight would receive Silver Stars, and one a Bronze Star " _http://kilo35usmc.org/ww2/ww2mem.html_ (http://kilo35usmc.org/ww2/ww2mem.html) This should satisfy your needs for a quick verification, but for recording purposes you may write to: National Personnel Records Center 9700 page Ave. St. Louis. MO. 63132-5100 * Send Form SF-180 and cite FOIA (The records of Marine Corps personnel were unaffected by the fire of 1973) Headquarters U. S. Marine Corps ATTN: MRC/Casualty Records 3280 Russell Road Quantico, VA. 22134 * Cite FOIA and provide name, rank, and serial if known Marine Corps Historical Center 1254 Charles Morris St.,SE Washington Navy Yard, D.C. 20374-5040 * Privacy issues do not pertain to these records Rick

    01/19/2006 12:20:07
    1. more free stuff.... from a friend
    2. .... valentine53179
    3. more free stuff.... from a friend Hello All, Here are some more places to check for free genealogy stuff... Free USA Genealogy Stuff Online - Charts, Forms, and Online Records http://www.researchguides.net/free.htm Some Free Online Census Records Indexes - USA http://www.researchguides.net/census/free.htm Free Genealolgy Stuff - England & Wales http://www.researchguides.net/englandwales.htm Good luck with your searches. Regards, Joe

    01/19/2006 07:42:08
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    2. .... valentine53179
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    01/19/2006 07:23:39
    1. Re: Mothers name delong info
    2. Line 12 shows De Long _http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/ww2/navy-casualties/massachusetts.html_ (http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/ww2/navy-casualties/massachusetts.html)

    01/18/2006 09:59:15
    1. Re: Mothers name delong info
    2. Line 12 shows De Long _http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/ww2/navy-casualties/massachusetts.html_ (http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/ww2/navy-casualties/massachusetts.html)

    01/18/2006 09:56:59
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] delong info and dover ma and county
    2. Bill White
    3. Hi Rick. Could I ask you how you know this? Thanks. Bill > Corporal De Long was a member of this unit at the time of his death. > > K Company > 3rd Battalion > 5th Marine Regiment > 1st Marine Division > > Rick > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor > was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help > you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are > referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

    01/18/2006 12:46:46