I was trying to find for my Dad a list of buddies he had in WW2 and have no luck. So I am going to ask those who might of knew anyone that was in the 204th AAA in US Army from 1942 to 1945. They started out at Camp Edwards and went to England before going to France , Beligum and into Germany. All I have is the last names and the state they lived in at that time. My Dad Eugene Barnes passed away May 2003. And he wanted to get in touch with some of his buddies he knew. They following are from Pennsylvania BELGWIN ? , NOVAK , MOLESOWSKI , ULRICH , DIEHL , SEIGHMAN ,ZORGER . From Oklahoma we have a SOKOTOSKY and in Alabama there is a HALAR ? not sure of spelling. In Kentucky NAPIER. In Ohio WURM. and in Maryland a MELLOTTE. If you know of anyone who served in 204th AAA from 1942 to 1945 please contact me at my addy dlbarnes@supernet.com I promised to do this for Dad when he was alive. And it never got done. So I am going to try and locate these men or their families. Dad never spoke much about the war but he talked about his buddies. And he thought highly of them. Thank you if you can help. Doug Barnes dlbarnes@supernet.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. " Whoever said search and ye shall find was not a genealogist"

http://www.cbi-history.com/part_ii.html#57 check this ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Early" <davidearly1@yahoo.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Posting advice | Your advice on posting is appreciated! | | Using the history of my father's WWII unit (mostly a | compilation of monthly reports compiled by the | communications officer) as a starting point, I'd like | to write a history of the unit. I've been in contact | with a couple of my father's buddies, but I'd like to | be in contact with as many as possible, to interview | them, to preserve their memories. | | I have a roster of the men in the unit - it runs to | about 280 names - along with their hometowns as of | November 20, 1945. I would like to post the list here | in case a reader recognizes a name and would be | willing to be in touch with me (it's a stab in the | dark, I realize). Before posting, though, I wanted to | ask the group for advice on how to go about it. | | To post it in one large chunk would result in a huge | post - and I'm afraid it would get read. I could | break it down into smaller chunks and make several | posts, but I don't want try people's patience with too | many posts. | | What would the preference of the group be? | | Thank you for your patience and assistance. | | For those who are interested: My father, James Early | (d. 1998), was a private in the 303rd Airdrome | Squadron of the U.S. Army Air Force from 1942-1945. | The 303rd served in the Pacific Theater from January | 1944 through the end of the War in places such as New | Guinea (Wakde Island, especially), Philippines (Leyte | and Mindoro), and ultimately in Korea in November | 1945. | | | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around | http://mail.yahoo.com | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html | This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx |

If you like you can send the names to my e-mail, if you have their home state or DOB, add that - if you can download the entire list to me, that would be OK delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Early" <davidearly1@yahoo.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Posting advice | Your advice on posting is appreciated! | | Using the history of my father's WWII unit (mostly a | compilation of monthly reports compiled by the | communications officer) as a starting point, I'd like | to write a history of the unit. I've been in contact | with a couple of my father's buddies, but I'd like to | be in contact with as many as possible, to interview | them, to preserve their memories. | | I have a roster of the men in the unit - it runs to | about 280 names - along with their hometowns as of | November 20, 1945. I would like to post the list here | in case a reader recognizes a name and would be | willing to be in touch with me (it's a stab in the | dark, I realize). Before posting, though, I wanted to | ask the group for advice on how to go about it. | | To post it in one large chunk would result in a huge | post - and I'm afraid it would get read. I could | break it down into smaller chunks and make several | posts, but I don't want try people's patience with too | many posts. | | What would the preference of the group be? | | Thank you for your patience and assistance. | | For those who are interested: My father, James Early | (d. 1998), was a private in the 303rd Airdrome | Squadron of the U.S. Army Air Force from 1942-1945. | The 303rd served in the Pacific Theater from January | 1944 through the end of the War in places such as New | Guinea (Wakde Island, especially), Philippines (Leyte | and Mindoro), and ultimately in Korea in November | 1945. | | | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around | http://mail.yahoo.com | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html | This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx |

Hello again, Liz. My attention was first grabbed by mention of Southend-on-Sea, where I have lived for around 50 years. I only moved a few miles north late last year - and even today I was in Southend visiting my bank and some shops. I have some knowledge of the town in World Wars I and II and post-1945, should you have any enquiries. I have today spent some time digging up what I can on Mablethorpe in WWII. You probably know that it is a small coastal town in south Lincolnshire, the nearest large town probably being Louth, some miles west. When war broke out, that part of Britain's east coast, from Essex up through Suffolk, Norfolk, Lincolnshire and South Yorkshire, was closest to Germany, more or less due east across the North Sea, and it was expected that any invasion would take place somewhere along that coastline. In consequence, civilians were encouraged to leave the coastal area, all aliens who might be regarded as 'unfriendly' were compelled to leave, civilian movement was much restricted and the army and other forces moved in, particularly units concerned with repelling any invaders. Although the German invasion of the Low Countries and Frence in May 1940 shifted the likely invasion are down to Kent and Sussex, not a lot otherwise changed in East Anglia and Lincolnshire. However, although there were German air raids on east coast ports and towns, Mablethorpe got off relatively lightly. East Coast convoys passed quite some way out to sea, it was one of the less likely invasion landing points and there was not a strong military presence. In 1941 the main 'presencxe' in town was, I think, 319 Battery, 513 Coast Artillery Regiment. The Battery was a 6-inch gun unit and most had two guns, with a total complement of between 70 and 150 men. Also nearby was a Chain Home Low radar station, Ingoldmells (also known as Shendleby). CHLs were RAF-(wo)manned. The nearest airbase was RAF Strubby, south of a line between Mablethorpe and Louth. I have not had time to research Strubby, but I think it served mostly as a Coastal Command patrol base. That may be wrong, but if you do a Google search you will hopefully find more. There was also a Royal Navy Mines Clearance unit based at Mablethorpe, to deal with the maganetic mines which dropped in shallow water or on land and failed to explode. Dealing with 'land mines', as the public of the time incorrectly referred to them, was an extremely dangerous business. One 1941 incident I turned up occured off Mablethorpe on 3 Nov 1941. The patrol yacht 'Ouzel', from the naval base at Boston, Lincs, had embarked three soldiers in addition to her seven man crew, to inspect the beach defence camouflage at Skegness and Mablethorpe from offshore. Just off Mablethorpe she was destroyed by a mine with the loss of all hands. Hope all this may be of some small help to you. Richard Goring visit my website at http://www.goring1941.freeserve.co.uk for: The Register of Essex-Related Dead of World War II [ROERDOWW2] The South-East Essex War Memorials & Monumental Inscriptions Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvie Barker" <harviebarker@shaw.ca> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] MABLETHORPE/ Lincolnshire and bases WW2 > Dear listers: I am looking for information about airfields/other > military bases WW2 at Mablethorpe/Lincolnshire. > > My friend's father was British by birth born 1918 at Southend on > sea/Essex. He was in 1936 in Regular Army Reserve, Bedfs & Herts. > He had been "late Cadet, Bedford School contgt Jun. Div OTC..maybe > someone could explain what that means to me? > > My friend's parents were married at Mablethorpe in 1941 and their > address was THE RETREAT, Windsor road. > > His father was listed as "Army Officer" -he had been in Lincolnshire > regiment, but by 1942 he appeared as "retired" but I know he was a > radiographer and did this work for many years in the War, including > Hiroshima. thus, not sure why the word "retired" would appear. > > I am looking for information about Mablethorpe and the type of > action/military units there in 1941. > > Was there any bombings/civilian deaths there in 1942? > > thanks for your help, Liz of BC Canada > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

David, Thanks so much for the link. I found EXACTLY what I was looking for. Unfortunately, the ships records were intentionally destroyed. Bummer! That is what I needed the most. David W. Dorsey wrote: > Rhonda, > > Try: > http://troopships.pier90.org/ > > Good luck in your search. > > Best wishes, > David > ddorsey@mindspring.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Yamauchi" > <rhonda.yamauchi@gmail.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:31 PM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] New York Port of Embarkation > > >> Can someone tell me how I can find out the name of the ship going >> overseas to France on January 1,1945 through ASF New York Port of >> Embarkation? >> Rhonda >> >> >> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >> To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: >> WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please >> remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what >> country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you >> give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. >> For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please > remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you > give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. > For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Rhonda, Try: http://troopships.pier90.org/ Good luck in your search. Best wishes, David ddorsey@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Yamauchi" <rhonda.yamauchi@gmail.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:31 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] New York Port of Embarkation > Can someone tell me how I can find out the name of the ship going overseas > to France on January 1,1945 through ASF New York Port of Embarkation? > Rhonda > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember > to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in > now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help > us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or > Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

You might be confusing this with the fire of 1973 in which 75-80% of Army and Army Air Corps records were lost. Other branches were unaffected. Rick

Can someone tell me how I can find out the name of the ship going overseas to France on January 1,1945 through ASF New York Port of Embarkation? Rhonda

A letter from the Textual Archives Services Division of NARA informed me that they were destroyed in accordance with Army disposition authorities. It is also on the NARA website that they were destroyed. On 3/28/06, Snowfrog1961@aol.com <Snowfrog1961@aol.com> wrote: > > You might be confusing this with the fire of 1973 in which 75-80% of Army > and Army Air Corps records were lost. Other branches were unaffected. > > > Rick > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about > a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe > in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell > us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if > different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us > understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov > 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

It is on the NARA website. And I also emailed NARA and I was told that they were destroyed in accordance with Army disposition authorities. I'm just curious why they did that. On 3/28/06, Delilah <diamond6468@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Didn't know they wewre, where did you get the info? > delilah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhonda Yamauchi" <rhonda.yamauchi@gmail.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:24 AM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] U.S. Army Unit Rosters > > > |I would like to know if anyone on the list might know why the U.S. Army > | unit rosters for the years 1944, 1945 and 1946 were ordered to be > | destroyed sometime in the 70's. > | > | > | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > | Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns > about > a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com > subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please > remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country > you > are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please > help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov > 1944 > or Nov 4, 1944. > | > | ============================== > | Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > | New content added every business day. Learn more: > | http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > | > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international > list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and > what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you > give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Can EVERYBODY stop sending to Sue Talk to you soon, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "SueNY" <sue.nyc@att.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:56 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Request > Can whoever has been resending posts from January 13th please STOP? For > the > past couple of days I have been getting posts with the subject "Canadian > Info" and they are all dated 1/13/06. At first I thought they were > delayed > by my ISP but they investigated and said no, they are being manually > re-sent > for some reason and without the current date being inserted. Please stop. > Thank you! > > Sue > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember > to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in > now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help > us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or > Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Didn't know they wewre, where did you get the info? delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Yamauchi" <rhonda.yamauchi@gmail.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] U.S. Army Unit Rosters |I would like to know if anyone on the list might know why the U.S. Army | unit rosters for the years 1944, 1945 and 1946 were ordered to be | destroyed sometime in the 70's. | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. | New content added every business day. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx |

Liz, I may be able to answer two parts of you query. About 1906, as part of the army reforms which set up the Territorial Army, who may be classed as part time reservists, the War Office encouraged schools and universities to set up in each school an Officer Training Corps. The War Office provided uniforms and assistance with training and some other facilities. The result was that in 1914-18 young men who had served in an OTC almost automatically got a commission. Service in an OTC might be noted on a service record. About 1940 the OTC had a name change to Junior Training Corps at schools and Senior Training Corps at universities, the latter forming units in the Home Guard. In the 1950s a further reorganisation as the schools formed Combined Cadet Forces which provide training for all three services. Regarding the use of the suffix "retired", it has been the custom that officers, who had gained their commission in the regular forces, army, navy, or air force, not the reserve forces, are entitled to use their service rank in civilian life as a title instead of the civilian title of Mr. It is usual to add (retired) as a suffix to make it clear that they are no longer serving. Hope this helps, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Harvie Barker [mailto:harviebarker@shaw.ca] Sent: 28 March 2006 00:59 To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WORLD WAR II] MABLETHORPE/ Lincolnshire and bases WW2 Dear listers: I am looking for information about airfields/other military bases WW2 at Mablethorpe/Lincolnshire. My friend's father was British by birth born 1918 at Southend on sea/Essex. He was in 1936 in Regular Army Reserve, Bedfs & Herts. He had been "late Cadet, Bedford School contgt Jun. Div OTC..maybe someone could explain what that means to me? My friend's parents were married at Mablethorpe in 1941 and their address was THE RETREAT, Windsor road. His father was listed as "Army Officer" -he had been in Lincolnshire regiment, but by 1942 he appeared as "retired" but I know he was a radiographer and did this work for many years in the War, including Hiroshima. thus, not sure why the word "retired" would appear. I am looking for information about Mablethorpe and the type of action/military units there in 1941. Was there any bombings/civilian deaths there in 1942? thanks for your help, Liz of BC Canada ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Your advice on posting is appreciated! Using the history of my father's WWII unit (mostly a compilation of monthly reports compiled by the communications officer) as a starting point, I’d like to write a history of the unit. I’ve been in contact with a couple of my father’s buddies, but I’d like to be in contact with as many as possible, to interview them, to preserve their memories. I have a roster of the men in the unit – it runs to about 280 names – along with their hometowns as of November 20, 1945. I would like to post the list here in case a reader recognizes a name and would be willing to be in touch with me (it’s a stab in the dark, I realize). Before posting, though, I wanted to ask the group for advice on how to go about it. To post it in one large chunk would result in a huge post – and I’m afraid it would get read. I could break it down into smaller chunks and make several posts, but I don’t want try people’s patience with too many posts. What would the preference of the group be? Thank you for your patience and assistance. For those who are interested: My father, James Early (d. 1998), was a private in the 303rd Airdrome Squadron of the U.S. Army Air Force from 1942-1945. The 303rd served in the Pacific Theater from January 1944 through the end of the War in places such as New Guinea (Wakde Island, especially), Philippines (Leyte and Mindoro), and ultimately in Korea in November 1945. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I would like to know if anyone on the list might know why the U.S. Army unit rosters for the years 1944, 1945 and 1946 were ordered to be destroyed sometime in the 70's.

My understanding is that the US military recorded height in iches and weight in pounds at least until very recent times. But '43' makes no sense as a height and '386' is one hellavu heavy guy! If these are intended to be metric conversions, then I can only assume whoever did the math applied the wrong formulae. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "GUTSCHKE ROGER" <Ejaygee@msn.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:01 AM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] More info on the Ht. and Wt. query > > My family member, Edward E. Mitchell, enlisted in the US Army on 12 July 1943 at Little Rock, Arkansas. My question was why his height and weight were listed as 43 and 386 respectively on the WWII enlistment records on Ancestry.com. I thought it was metric but it doesn't convert to a believable number using Kilograms and Centimeters and have never heard if they were using metric measurements in WWII. He enlisted when he was 18 and was killed on Okinawa 13 April 1945. I have heard that an only son, as he was, was exempt from service. Was that an official policy ? Was it exempt from the draft but they could still enlist on a voluntary basis ? Thanks good folks. > EJG > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > >

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission was charged with compiling A Civilian Roll of Honour 1939-45 and this was eventually published as a set of six volumes. A full set is kept (but not for public inspection) at Westmionster Abbey, with a fresh page turned every day. The good news is that individual pages are available for purchase from the CWGC and the volumes themselves are laid out county by county (the old, pre-1960s-reorganisation counties), then by county borough, then by other districts (metropolitan boroughs, urban districts, rural districts, etc.) in alphabetical order. The surnames run in alpha-order within each borough or district. An enquiry to the CWGC should elicit the detail of the page number 'run' covering Peterboro (or the whole of Louth) and the cost of those pages and shipping. Note that the civilian roll does not give any burial details, cemetery or churchyard, etc. But it does usually give family (parents and/or spouse), age, residence, place of death. Also, anyone injured in one district and dying in another (not uncommon, as casualties sometimes had to be sent to hospitals out-of-area), will be listed under the area in which they died. My own researches over the past ten years point to quite a number of civilians who are NOT in the CWGC records. In the main, these seem to be people who died in an area where they did not live or who died of injuries some time after the later, again especially where they died out-of-area. This despite the final volume being devoted to people missed in the first five (so if you do follow my suggestion, do ask the CWGC to advise whether there are any Peterboro entries in the supplementary pages). Hope this helps. Richard Goring visit my website at http://www.goring1941.freeserve.co.uk for: The Register of Essex-Related Dead of World War II [ROERDOWW2] The South-East Essex War Memorials & Monumental Inscriptions Project, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvie Barker" <harviebarker@shaw.ca> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:43 AM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] civilian deaths from bombings England? 1942 > I am wondering how to search for civilian deaths by bombings in July > 1942 at Peterboro? > > I have a story of a baby rescued from a bombing of his house shortly > after his birth. He was born july 14, 1942 > at Louth Hospital and there were NO bombings/ or civilian deaths in > 1942 there...[yes, in 1941 and 1943] > > I realize this "story" can sound a bit suspicious. apparently the > mother survived because she was OUT and other > members of the household [possibly her family?] were supposed to be > killed. The baby was susequently placed in > an orphanage. I did expect local newspapers to carry such a > story..finding none...but there were certainly stories of the day > describing the 1941 bombings and deaths of civilians. > > I have the birth cert. -- the mother registered the birth 2 weeks after > "by declaration" and her address at registration time > was 270 Cromwell road, Peterboro. None of the mother's immediate > family show up in GRO indexes either for 1942 although > I do not know all their names. > > I tried CWGC site for cemeteries at Peterboro and found NO deaths that > seem to relate and NONE from one family. > > Louth authorities [archives and library ] have been most helpful in > confirming no deaths there 1942. > > I look forward to your wisdom on how to search this for Peterboro. My > friend hasnt given up on his life story but has asked me > to help find his mother's family. > > thanks liz of BC Canada > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Oh what tangled webs do our parents weave! Not that later generations are that much (if at all) better. My mother was a lovely lady, but she had another illegitmate son before me, then a third after marrying a Royal Air Force man a couple of years after I was adopted. So, three sons all with different fathers! In all the years, the three of us met together just once - a slightly bizarre experience. My mother herself was the youngest of eleven children, born in 1921. Her father, a Boer War veteran, and her mother finally got married in 1940, so she and all her siblings were legally illegitimate. I won't even start on the out-of-wedlock children of my aunts and uncles - if it 'runs' in families, it most certainly runs in mine! None of which is really relevant to World War II, so to give this posting some validity, I will mention that my birth father was Private B94664 John Morris CLARK, 2 Army Field Workshop, Royal Canadian Ordnance Corps. Born 23 Dec 1917, enlisted Toronto late 1939, sailed for UK with his unit early 1940 and based in southern England until Aug 1944, when after a period in detention he was shipped back to Canada, served more 'time' and was then discharged. Details of his crime are presumably amongst all that blacked-out stuff in his service record, but I know that he married an English girl (not my mother) in 1942 apparently without permission and I think it may be that he already had a wife back in Canada. He and his English wife had a child in 1943, so I have yet another half-brother around somewhere (Alan George CLARK, where are you?), possibly in Australia. If any of these names ring any bells with listers, I'd sure like to hear. Richard Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian & Muriel Caldwell" <ianandmurielcaldwell@ontera.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > I can see your problem Richard it must be very frustrating. I was very > fortunate and persistent I wasn't about to give up> I knew my father was in > the service and one letter as much as said he wasn't. As it turned out I > have a whole new search now for my half siblings, which by the way are my > fathers legitimate children but to my surprise I also found out that I am > the illegitimate one. My father passed away while I was very young and my > mother always led me to believe that they had been married. This was very > hard on my mother but she finally told me. Muriel > >

Well, Delilah, I have been told by Canadian authorities that it is so. The moment I was adopted, all legal link to my natural father was severed. There is an ongoing argument as to whether I might be eligible for dual citizenship. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > I think you may be wrong on the not have "claim" - all adoptees are supposed > to have all rights, etc. as any natural born child - hope what you say is > not true in Ca, as I know in the US, it is not true. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "esx goring" <esx@goring1941.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:43 AM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > > > | Very pleased for you, Muriel. My big problem is that I was illegitimate > and > | then adopted, so have no 'claim' to my father under Canadian law. When I > | first started looking I did not have his full name, service number, rank > and > | unit and the authorities just did not want to know. Subsequently, by > other > | means, I did get much of the information and I do now have a copy of his > | record, but around 50% of it is blacked-out, including all the > genealogical > | information! So, not a great deal of use to me. > | > | Anyway, glad that it worked out better for you. > | > | Richard > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Ian & Muriel Caldwell" <ianandmurielcaldwell@ontera.net> > | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:29 PM > | Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > | > | > | > Richard I applied in 2004 and recieved my fathers WW11 service records > and > | > did not have his service number nor was I sure of the regiment he was > in > | or > | > even where he enlisted. A first search for me turned up nothing for my > | > father I emailed back and asked to have him searched under his nickname > | and > | > there he was they found him. > | > I did have his place of birth (Belfast, Ireland), his date of birth > | which > | > by the way didn't match with his records, his parents names and his > death > | > cert. It took one and a half years to recieve the records due to thier > | > backlog. Was well worth the wait found out I have 2 half siblings I > have > | > never met YET. Muriel > | > > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "esx goring" <esx@goring1941.freeserve.co.uk> > | > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:29 PM > | > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > | > > | > > | > > Hi, Sally. > | > > > | > > I do not offer encouraging news. I have been trying to get hold of my > | > > Canadian father's service details for some years, but have been > denied. > | > All > | > > the Canadian World War II service records are still closed to the > public > | > and > | > > will remain so for many years yet - UNLESS you are the serviceman > | > concerned > | > > or immediate next-of-kin and can satisfy the authorities that he/she > is > | > dead > | > > or can show that the person has been dead 20 or more years. And > without > | > > service numbers the Canadian National Archives people will not even > look > | > for > | > > records. > | > > > | > > Richard Goring > | > > visit my website at http://www.goring1941.freeserve.co.uk for: > | > > The Register of Essex-Related Dead of World War II [ROERDOWW2] > | > > The South-East Essex War Memorials & Monumental Inscriptions Project > | > > > | > > > | > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > > From: "logan" <afineday@ontariointernet.com> > | > > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | > > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:42 PM > | > > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > | > > > | > > > | > > > Hi there: > | > > > Does anyone know if there is a Canadian equivalent for this kind of > | > info? > | > > > I am searching for five of my Cdn uncles who served in WWII. They > are > | > all > | > > > deceased now. I don't have their service numbers or anyone left > alive > | > > that > | > > > I can ask. > | > > > One (Alexander Rail - wounded) was with the Canadian Royal Engineers > & > | > > > another (Joseph Rail) was with the 5th Div, 9th Brigade, Highland > | Light > | > > > Infantry of Canada > | > > > I don't know where the other three were. Any help would be VERY > | > > gratefully > | > > > received. Thank you..........Sal > | > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | > > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > > > From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> > | > > > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | > > > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:20 PM > | > > > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Henry Louis Lairson > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record > | > > > > about Henry L Lairson > | > > > > Name: Henry L Lairson > | > > > > Birth Year: 1922 > | > > > > Race: White, citizen > | > > > > Nativity State or Country: Missouri > | > > > > State: Texas > | > > > > County or City: Nueces > | > > > > > | > > > > Enlistment Date: 19 Nov 1940 > | > > > > Enlistment State: Texas > | > > > > Enlistment City: Fort Sam Houston > | > > > > Branch: Field Artillery > | > > > > Branch Code: Field Artillery > | > > > > Grade: Private > | > > > > Grade Code: Private > | > > > > Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, > | > Warrant > | > > > > Officers, and Enlisted Men) > | > > > > Source: Civil Life > | > > > > > | > > > > Education: 2 years of high school > | > > > > Civil Occupation: Actor (Motion picture actor. ) or > | > > Director, > | > > > > Motion Picture (Motion picture director.) or Entertainer > | > > > > Marital Status: Single, without dependents > | > > > > Height: 69 > | > > > > Weight: 135 > | > > > > > | > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > | > > > > Texas Deaths, 1964-98 Record > | > > > > about Henry Louis Lairson > | > > > > Name: Henry Louis Lairson > | > > > > Death Date: 11 December 1979 > | > > > > Death County: ECTOR > | > > > > Gender: > | > > > > > | > > > > | > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > | > > > - > | > > > > Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 Record > | > > > > about John Weldon Lairson > | > > > > Name: John Weldon Lairson > | > > > > Date of Birth: 16 Dec 1953 > | > > > > Gender: Male > | > > > > Birth County: Brazoria > | > > > > Father's Name: Henry Louis Lairson > | > > > > Mother's Name: Naomi Ruth Williams > | > > > > Roll Number: 1953_0009 > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > He apparently married and had a son. > | > > > > | > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > | > > > ------------- > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > | > > > > From: <jlairson1953@peoplepc.com> > | > > > > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:05 PM > | > > > > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Family buries remains of WWII airman > | > > > discovered > | > > > > on California mountain > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > | I'm trying to find out what unit my father-in-law was in and > | where > | > he > | > > > > might > | > > > > | have been stationed in WWII... > | > > > > | his name was Corporal Henry Louis Lairson, 18 013 976, Regular > | Army, > | > , > | > > > > Sept > | > > > > | 1940 to August 2, 1945, Enlistment City, Fort Sam Houston, > Texas, > | > > Field > | > > > > | Artillery, supposedly seperated out to Fort Sam Houston, Bexar > | > > County, > | > > > > | Texas.... 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St Louis sent me a copy of his > Certifcate > | > of > | > > > > | Service, but it only gives the basic info that I have above... > | > anyone > | > > > with > | > > > > | info pleas help....I have check with Bexar County, and Nueces > | County > | > ( > | > > > > | supposedly home of record) at their County Clerks office for > | > > registered > | > > > > | info, but no one seems to know what I'm talking > about.......thank > | > > > > | you.....Judy Lairson judy_lairson2000@yahoo.com > | > > > > | ----- Original Message ----- > | > > > > | From: <KathNHNC71@aol.com> > | > > > > | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > | > > > > | Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:22 AM > | > > > > | Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Family buries remains of WWII airman > | > > discovered > | > > > on > | > > > > | California mountain > | > > > > | > | > > > > | > | > > > > | > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > | > Family buries remains of WWII airman discovered on California > | > > > mountain > | > > > > | > By PATRICK CONDON > | > > > > | > The Associated Press > | > > > > | > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > > | > > > > | > > > | > > | > _http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002888242_frozen25.html_ > | > > > > | > > | > > > > > | > > > > | > > > | > > | > (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002888242_frozen25.html) > | > > > > | > > | > > > > | > > | > > > > | > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > | > > > > | > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: > | > > > > | > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. > Please > | > > > remember > | > > > > | > to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country > | > you > | > > > are > | > > > > in > | > > > > | > now if different. 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'I woke up in the middle of the night to hear him screaming. My grandmother told me he was having a "bad dream". She told me my other uncles had "bad dreams" too.' So many returned from the war, but not the same as they entered it! Remember the dead, but please do not forget the living! John > -----Original Message----- > From: logan [mailto:afineday@ontariointernet.com] > Sent: 26 March 2006 03:52 > To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > > > Thank you for the official names of the regiments. I have spent many many > hours searching for where, when & what the Highland Lt Infantry of Cda did > overseas from 1940 to the end of the war and have gathered a good bit of > their history. A lot of it has made me cry. > Now I have started on the Royal Cdn Engineers and there doesn't seem to be > much on the net but I'm just starting. > I was only 7 years old when the war ended. I remember spending a weekend > visit at my grandmother's where one of my uncles was living. I woke up in > the middle of the night to hear him screaming. My grandmother told me he > was having a "bad dream". She told me my other uncles had "bad > dreams" too. > I didn't understand then. Now, as I read more and more about > World War II I > can only imagine what those nightmares were. > Sal > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Hamilton" <ktham@sympatico.ca> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Info > > > > To help you with your research, the correct title is: > > > > Royal Canadian Engineers. > > > > Highland Light Infantry of Canada was in the 9th Canadian Infantry > > Brigade, 3rd Canadian Infantry Division, and landed in Normandy on > > 6th June 1944. > > > > Trevor Hamilton > > > > > > One (Alexander Rail - wounded) was with the Canadian Royal Engineers & > > another (Joseph Rail) was with the 5th Div, 9th Brigade, Highland Light > > Infantry of Canada > > > > Thank you..........Sal > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. > For example: > 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. > Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your > ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. > This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us > understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov > 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and > friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourcei d=14599&targetid=5429 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: 24/03/2006